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SaPeIsMa 22-12-2009 06:01 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago, before
>High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything and anything/


I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr light
or is the High Fructose variety.

Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
Did it ever exist ?


[email protected] 22-12-2009 06:32 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
SaPeIsMa > wrote:
> Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago, before
> >High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything and anything/


> I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr light
> or is the High Fructose variety.


> Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
> Did it ever exist ?


Karo seems to be just corn syrup. It's been around more than 30 years,
and from the ingredient list on their web site, it is just corn syrup.
It does not say HFCS. By the way, they have a "light" and a "lite"
variety with the first spelling referring only to the color, the second one
is a reduced calorie version.

Here's a link: http://www.karosyrup.com/products.html

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

Janet Bostwick[_2_] 22-12-2009 06:54 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 

"SaPeIsMa" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago, before
> >High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything and anything/

>
> I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr light
> or is the High Fructose variety.
>
> Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
> Did it ever exist ?

What is the Brand name on the High Fructose syrup? I don't think I've seen
that in the store. I've seen Karo, both light colored and dark colored.
Did you find the High Fructose syrup in the same place as Karo and molasses
and honey?
Janet



Dan Abel 22-12-2009 10:49 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
In article >,
"SaPeIsMa" > wrote:

> Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago, before
> >High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything and anything/


The original corn syrup had no fructose in it. HFCS started becoming
common in the US about 30 years ago.

> I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr light
> or is the High Fructose variety.


"Light" refers to the color. That's what you want if you want that
color. There is a dark also, if you want a dark color. In the US, Karo
sells most of the corn syrup I've seen. They used to put HFCS in some
of it, but they've been taking it out as people have gotten unhappy with
it. The list of ingredients will tell you.

> Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
> Did it ever exist ?


Yes, especially back before HFCS was invented.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


[email protected] 23-12-2009 12:36 AM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
On Dec 22, 1:01�pm, "SaPeIsMa" > wrote:
> Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago, before
> �>High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything and anything/
>
> I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr light
> or is the High Fructose variety.
>
> Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
> � � � � Did it ever exist ?


The bottle of Karo light corn syrup I just bought lists three
ingredients: corn syrup, salt, and vanilla. There's basically two
types of corn syrup on the market: light, which is the clear kind, and
dark, which looks like refiner's syrup.

[email protected] 23-12-2009 03:37 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
Dan Abel > wrote:
> In the US, Karo
> sells most of the corn syrup I've seen. They used to put HFCS in some
> of it, but they've been taking it out as people have gotten unhappy with
> it. The list of ingredients will tell you.


According to Karo's web site they only put HFCS in their "Pancake Syrup,"
not in their "Corn Syrup." They claim the basic light corn syrup has
not changed ingredients since the 1940s.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

Janet 23-12-2009 07:07 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
wrote:
> SaPeIsMa > wrote:
>> Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago,
>> before >High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything
>> and anything/

>
>> I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr
>> light or is the High Fructose variety.

>
>> Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
>> Did it ever exist ?

>
> Karo seems to be just corn syrup. It's been around more than 30
> years, and from the ingredient list on their web site, it is just
> corn syrup.
> It does not say HFCS. By the way, they have a "light" and a "lite"
> variety with the first spelling referring only to the color, the
> second one is a reduced calorie version.


The Karo in the supermarket contained HFCS last time I looked.

I buy a non-HF corn syrup that is as thick as glucose at a baking supply
place in one gallon buckets. The brand name is Orchard.



The Cook 23-12-2009 07:30 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:07:27 -0500, "Janet" >
wrote:

wrote:
>> SaPeIsMa > wrote:
>>> Does anyone know the Fructose content of Corn Syrup 30+ years ago,
>>> before >High-Fructose Corn Syrup< started to be used in everything
>>> and anything/

>>
>>> I need Corn Syrup for a recipe, but everything in the store is eithr
>>> light or is the High Fructose variety.

>>
>>> Was there ever >Low-Fructose< Corn Syrup ?
>>> Did it ever exist ?

>>
>> Karo seems to be just corn syrup. It's been around more than 30
>> years, and from the ingredient list on their web site, it is just
>> corn syrup.
>> It does not say HFCS. By the way, they have a "light" and a "lite"
>> variety with the first spelling referring only to the color, the
>> second one is a reduced calorie version.

>
>The Karo in the supermarket contained HFCS last time I looked.
>

It now comes without HFCS. The ingredients are corn syrup, salt,
vanilla. For a while (and I have no idea how long) it did have HFCS.
I tossed a couple of bottles recently that had it, but I bought them
several months ago. Check the labels. Products change. Crisco no
longer has a reportable amount of trans fats.

>I buy a non-HF corn syrup that is as thick as glucose at a baking supply
>place in one gallon buckets. The brand name is Orchard.
>

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Mark Thorson 23-12-2009 08:19 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
wrote:
>
> Dan Abel > wrote:
> > In the US, Karo
> > sells most of the corn syrup I've seen. They used to put HFCS in some
> > of it, but they've been taking it out as people have gotten unhappy with
> > it. The list of ingredients will tell you.

>
> According to Karo's web site they only put HFCS in their "Pancake Syrup,"
> not in their "Corn Syrup." They claim the basic light corn syrup has
> not changed ingredients since the 1940s.


It must be a tough job to be in the marketing department
at Karo. On the one hand, you've got to make it clear
to consumers that there's no HFCS in it, but on the other hand
you can't be saying anything bad about HFCS because you've
got other products that have it, and your suppliers make it.
And you don't want to be fielding angry phone calls and
threats of litigation from the Corn Refiners Association.

Dan Abel 23-12-2009 09:01 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
In article >,
"Janet" > wrote:

> wrote:


> > Karo seems to be just corn syrup. It's been around more than 30
> > years, and from the ingredient list on their web site, it is just
> > corn syrup.
> > It does not say HFCS. By the way, they have a "light" and a "lite"
> > variety with the first spelling referring only to the color, the
> > second one is a reduced calorie version.

>
> The Karo in the supermarket contained HFCS last time I looked.


The Karo pancake syrup still has HFCS as an ingredient, according to the
web site. The light and dark don't, although I think maybe one of them
used to. With the half life of the stuff, I wouldn't be surprised is
many places, especially home pantries, have the old stuff.

> I buy a non-HF corn syrup that is as thick as glucose at a baking supply
> place in one gallon buckets. The brand name is Orchard.


Corn syrup should be 100% glucose dissolved in water, as corn syrup is
produced in the presence of water. The glucose itself is a solid, when
dried. The thickness of glucose syrup depends solely on how much water
is in it.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


Doug Freyburger 24-12-2009 04:48 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
The Cook wrote:
>
> It now comes without HFCS. The ingredients are corn syrup, salt,
> vanilla. For a while (and I have no idea how long) it did have HFCS.
> I tossed a couple of bottles recently that had it, but I bought them
> several months ago. Check the labels. Products change. Crisco no
> longer has a reportable amount of trans fats.


1999 - I looked at brand after brand of tomato paste for one made only
with tomatoes. The only brand I could find without added sugar was
Contadina.

2005 - The store was out of Contadina so I read all of the labels again.
None of the brands had added sugar any time.

Year to year I've read the labels on Diet Rc Cola. The listed
ingredients change often. I suspect they use it as a test marketing
brand to see if they can beat Diet Rite Cola.

Once I've seen Carefree Sugarless gum made this saccharine instead of
aspartame. Once. Never since. Sigh.

Jean B.[_1_] 24-12-2009 07:02 PM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
Doug Freyburger wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
>> It now comes without HFCS. The ingredients are corn syrup, salt,
>> vanilla. For a while (and I have no idea how long) it did have HFCS.
>> I tossed a couple of bottles recently that had it, but I bought them
>> several months ago. Check the labels. Products change. Crisco no
>> longer has a reportable amount of trans fats.

>
> 1999 - I looked at brand after brand of tomato paste for one made only
> with tomatoes. The only brand I could find without added sugar was
> Contadina.
>
> 2005 - The store was out of Contadina so I read all of the labels again.
> None of the brands had added sugar any time.
>
> Year to year I've read the labels on Diet Rc Cola. The listed
> ingredients change often. I suspect they use it as a test marketing
> brand to see if they can beat Diet Rite Cola.
>
> Once I've seen Carefree Sugarless gum made this saccharine instead of
> aspartame. Once. Never since. Sigh.


The moral of the story seems to be that one has to scrutinize the
labels every single time one purchases a product.

--
Jean B.

Doug Freyburger 26-12-2009 12:11 AM

Looking for Corn Syrup Not Light, Not High-Fructose
 
Jean B. wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
>> 1999 - I looked at brand after brand of tomato paste for one made only
>> with tomatoes. The only brand I could find without added sugar was
>> Contadina.
>>
>> 2005 - The store was out of Contadina so I read all of the labels again.
>> None of the brands had added sugar any time.

>
> The moral of the story seems to be that one has to scrutinize the
> labels every single time one purchases a product.


More than once every six years anyways.


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