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Dave Urring
 
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Default A Basic Question, Please.

Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
been able to see.

None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
eating sure takes a lot of them in.

Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
a year they go to the doctor.

I'll kick things off:

Height: 5'10

Weight: 163

Age: 54yrs

Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian

Doctor-Trips/Year: None

--------------------------------

Your turn:

Height:

Weight:

Age:

Diet-Style

Doctor-Trips/Year




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>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>a year they go to the doctor.
>
>


Then what?
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Gtwy4cb wrote:
>
>
>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>a year they go to the doctor.
>>
>>

>
> Then what?


We should add fitness level too.

Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:

40 years of age.

5'10

250#

You eat a a lot of animal products.

At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.

Fitness level: 1 out of 10



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Dave Urring wrote:
> Gtwy4cb wrote:
>
>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Then what?

>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>
>


Ahhh, a troll emerges.


jim
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Gtwy4cb wrote:
>
>
>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>a year they go to the doctor.
>>
>>

>
> Then what?


We should add fitness level too.

Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:

40 years of age.

5'10

250#

You eat a a lot of animal products.

At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.

Fitness level: 1 out of 10





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Dave Urring wrote:

> Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
> post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
> been able to see.
>
> None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
> eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>
> Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
> we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
> a year they go to the doctor.
>


Is this the new center for science in the public interest teams up with
PETA study to determine that all foodies are overweight and that eating
meat is the cause of all illness?

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Dave Urring wrote:
> Alan_B wrote:
>
>>"Jessica V." > wrote in news:xradnT5Fb-tCxdPcRVn-
:
>>
>>
>>>Dave Urring wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>>>>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what
>>>>I've been able to see.
>>>>
>>>>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>>>>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>>>
>>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times a
>>>>year they go to the doctor.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is this the new center for science in the public interest
>>>teams up with PETA study to determine that all foodies are
>>>overweight and that eating meat is the cause of all illness?
>>>

>>
>>
>>I like meat...I like to eat it...I like taking vegan recipes
>>and adding meat to them. Dave here seems to not like my life
>>style...since I do all the stuff he frowns on. I do have a
>>cure for that...Plonk! hes gone from my world.
>>

>
>
> I don't frown on your lifestyle. I am not responsible for your
> behavior.
>
> But I'll bet that I am far healthier than you are.
>
> You reap what you sow.
>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>



And a dumb vegetarian to boot: when you ASSume you make the obvious out
of yourself. Now you are a troll and a jackass.


jim
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Dave Urring > wrote in message link.net>...
> Alan_B wrote:
> > "Jessica V." > wrote in news:xradnT5Fb-tCxdPcRVn-
> > :
> >
> >> Dave Urring wrote:
> >>
> >>> Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
> >>> post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what
> >>> I've been able to see.
> >>>
> >>> None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
> >>> eating sure takes a lot of them in.
> >>>
> >>> Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
> >>> we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times a
> >>> year they go to the doctor.
> >>
> >>
> >> Is this the new center for science in the public interest
> >> teams up with PETA study to determine that all foodies are
> >> overweight and that eating meat is the cause of all illness?
> >>

> >
> >
> > I like meat...I like to eat it...I like taking vegan recipes
> > and adding meat to them. Dave here seems to not like my life
> > style...since I do all the stuff he frowns on. I do have a
> > cure for that...Plonk! hes gone from my world.
> >

>
> I don't frown on your lifestyle. I am not responsible for your
> behavior.
>
> But I'll bet that I am far healthier than you are.


Yeah and I'll bet your dick is smaller too. So what?

Smarmy vegetarians like yourself make the rest of us look like
assholes. Look in the mirror buddy - there are far worse things than
eating dead animals.

-L.


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Dave Urring wrote:
> Alan_B wrote:
>
>>"Jessica V." > wrote in news:xradnT5Fb-tCxdPcRVn-
:
>>
>>
>>>Dave Urring wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>>>>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what
>>>>I've been able to see.
>>>>
>>>>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>>>>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>>>
>>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times a
>>>>year they go to the doctor.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is this the new center for science in the public interest
>>>teams up with PETA study to determine that all foodies are
>>>overweight and that eating meat is the cause of all illness?
>>>

>>
>>
>>I like meat...I like to eat it...I like taking vegan recipes
>>and adding meat to them. Dave here seems to not like my life
>>style...since I do all the stuff he frowns on. I do have a
>>cure for that...Plonk! hes gone from my world.
>>

>
>
> I don't frown on your lifestyle. I am not responsible for your
> behavior.
>
> But I'll bet that I am far healthier than you are.
>
> You reap what you sow.
>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>



And a dumb vegetarian to boot: when you ASSume you make the obvious out
of yourself. Now you are a troll and a jackass.


jim
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Dave Urring wrote:
> Alan_B wrote:
>
>>"Jessica V." > wrote in news:xradnT5Fb-tCxdPcRVn-
:
>>
>>
>>>Dave Urring wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>>>>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what
>>>>I've been able to see.
>>>>
>>>>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>>>>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>>>
>>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times a
>>>>year they go to the doctor.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is this the new center for science in the public interest
>>>teams up with PETA study to determine that all foodies are
>>>overweight and that eating meat is the cause of all illness?
>>>

>>
>>
>>I like meat...I like to eat it...I like taking vegan recipes
>>and adding meat to them. Dave here seems to not like my life
>>style...since I do all the stuff he frowns on. I do have a
>>cure for that...Plonk! hes gone from my world.
>>

>
>
> I don't frown on your lifestyle. I am not responsible for your
> behavior.
>
> But I'll bet that I am far healthier than you are.
>
> You reap what you sow.
>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>



And a dumb vegetarian to boot: when you ASSume you make the obvious out
of yourself. Now you are a troll and a jackass.


jim
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Jessica V. wrote:
>
>
> Dave Urring wrote:
>
>> Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>> post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
>> been able to see.
>>
>> None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>> eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>
>> Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>> we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>> a year they go to the doctor.
>>

>
> Is this the new center for science in the public interest teams up with
> PETA study to determine that all foodies are overweight and that eating
> meat is the cause of all illness?
>


It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.

Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.

We should add fitness level too.

Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:

40 years of age.

5'10

250#

You eat a a lot of animal products.

At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.

Fitness level: 1 out of 10


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Dave Urring wrote:

> It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
> from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
> chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>
> Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10


My father in law would fail your test. He used to get up in the morning and
have two spoons full of yogurt, some cereal with fruit, 2 poached eggs with
cheese and salt along with 2-3 slices of toast, each smeared with butter and
honey. He went to restaurants for lunch and usually had red meat with gravy.
He was a big meat eater. Whenever he served a roast he would have seconds,
thirds, maybe a fourth helping. After his wife died his evening meal was
reduced to peanut butter on crackers or cold cuts, and always a double
martini.

The last time I saw him stand on his head and chug a beer he was 86. That
was about the same time I saw him run a half a city block to catch a
streetcar. He rarely went to the doctor. He could still fit into his WW I
army uniform, and he was quite fit and active until he died peacefully in his
sleep a few weeks before his 95th birthday.

My wife inherited her father's eating habits. She eats bacon and eggs for
breakfast, or just hard boiled eggs and cheese if she is in a hurry. She goes
through 1-2 dozen eggs per week, at least a pound of cheese, uses cream in
her coffee (no substitutes). She uses a lot of butter on vegetables. She
eats 2-3 times as much meat as I do, and especially likes red meats. While I
cut off the fat from my meat, she not only eats all the fat on her meat but
often eats the stuff that I cut off. She has no cholesterol problems. She
avoids starch in all forms, and eats very little sugar. At age 59 she is
5'7" and weighs 135, and people are always commenting on how great she looks.

My grandmother almost always had bacon and eggs for breakfast. She had cream
in her tea and smeared bread with butter. She had meat with every meal. She
was never much overweight and died 2 weeks short of her 100th birthday after
breaking a hip. She had survived a broken hip two years earlier.


According to your misguided estimates, they would all have been 250 and
frequent visitors to the doctor and died young.









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>Dave Smith
>
>Dave Erring wrote:
>
>> It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
>> from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
>> chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>>
>> Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>>
>> We should add fitness level too.
>>
>> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>>
>> 40 years of age.
>>
>> 5'10
>>
>> 250#
>>
>> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>>
>> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>>
>> Fitness level: 1 out of 10

>
>My father in law would fail your test. He used to get up in the morning and
>have two spoons full of yogurt, some cereal with fruit, 2 poached eggs with
>cheese and salt along with 2-3 slices of toast, each smeared with butter and
>honey. He went to restaurants for lunch and usually had red meat with gravy.
>He was a big meat eater. Whenever he served a roast he would have seconds,
>thirds, maybe a fourth helping. After his wife died his evening meal was
>reduced to peanut butter on crackers or cold cuts, and always a double
>martini.
>
>The last time I saw him stand on his head and chug a beer he was 86. That
>was about the same time I saw him run a half a city block to catch a
>streetcar. He rarely went to the doctor. He could still fit into his WW I
>army uniform, and he was quite fit and active until he died peacefully in his
>sleep a few weeks before his 95th birthday.
>
>My wife inherited her father's eating habits. She eats bacon and eggs for
>breakfast, or just hard boiled eggs and cheese if she is in a hurry. She goes
>through 1-2 dozen eggs per week, at least a pound of cheese, uses cream in
>her coffee (no substitutes). She uses a lot of butter on vegetables. She
>eats 2-3 times as much meat as I do, and especially likes red meats. While I
>cut off the fat from my meat, she not only eats all the fat on her meat but
>often eats the stuff that I cut off. She has no cholesterol problems. She
>avoids starch in all forms, and eats very little sugar. At age 59 she is
>5'7" and weighs 135, and people are always commenting on how great she looks.
>
>My grandmother almost always had bacon and eggs for breakfast. She had cream
>in her tea and smeared bread with butter. She had meat with every meal. She
>was never much overweight and died 2 weeks short of her 100th birthday after
>breaking a hip. She had survived a broken hip two years earlier.
>
>
>According to your misguided estimates, they would all have been 250 and
>frequent visitors to the doctor and died young.


Yup... can't rely on trends... my grandfather, (my father's father) never
retired, worked right up to his dying day at age 97. And no sedentary job, he
retired from the restaurant business to become a plumber, didn't drive, so
walked to each job, carrying all his tools/supplies on his back in huge burlap
sacks... I remember even in his eighties he'd sling a cast iron bath tub onto
his back, held with a rope around his waist, and carried it up three flights of
stairs. He must've weighed 220lbs, was about 6' 2", and ate like ten horses,
every meal was a banquet... calories was not a word in his vocabulary. After
work he'd sit on the front porch in his rocking chair watching the world pass
by (the man never seemed to have a care in the world, no worrier he), rocked in
his chair spooning down a tall class of good cavier washed down by a liter of
vodka, this every day fare while waiting to be called for dinner... oh, he
chain smoked Chesterfields. The little old ladies half his age passed by
muttering that man will drink himself to death, and so he did, at 97.

My mother's father was a roofer, but no ordinary roofer, he was a tall building
coppersmith, did the roof on the Chrysler building. His knees went in his late
sixties so he could no longer climb, but he lived until 86. His favorite daily
snack consisted mainly of tins of oil packed sardines with raw onions eaten
with entire huge loaves of Russian black bread slathered with butter, and tall
tea glasses filled to the brim with slivervitz or Old Overhall whiskey... this
before dinner.

I think their secret to long life was hard physical work and never stuffing
their emotions. So I decided to retire to a farm, and I always did tell it
like it is.




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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
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PENMART01 wrote:

>>Dave Smith
>>
>>Dave Erring wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
>>>from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
>>>chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>>>
>>>Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>>>
>>>We should add fitness level too.
>>>
>>>Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>>>
>>>40 years of age.
>>>
>>>5'10
>>>
>>>250#
>>>
>>>You eat a a lot of animal products.
>>>
>>>At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>>>
>>>Fitness level: 1 out of 10

>>
>>My father in law would fail your test. He used to get up in the morning and
>>have two spoons full of yogurt, some cereal with fruit, 2 poached eggs with
>>cheese and salt along with 2-3 slices of toast, each smeared with butter and
>>honey. He went to restaurants for lunch and usually had red meat with gravy.
>>He was a big meat eater. Whenever he served a roast he would have seconds,
>>thirds, maybe a fourth helping. After his wife died his evening meal was
>>reduced to peanut butter on crackers or cold cuts, and always a double
>>martini.
>>
>>The last time I saw him stand on his head and chug a beer he was 86. That
>>was about the same time I saw him run a half a city block to catch a
>>streetcar. He rarely went to the doctor. He could still fit into his WW I
>>army uniform, and he was quite fit and active until he died peacefully in his
>>sleep a few weeks before his 95th birthday.
>>
>>My wife inherited her father's eating habits. She eats bacon and eggs for
>>breakfast, or just hard boiled eggs and cheese if she is in a hurry. She goes
>>through 1-2 dozen eggs per week, at least a pound of cheese, uses cream in
>>her coffee (no substitutes). She uses a lot of butter on vegetables. She
>>eats 2-3 times as much meat as I do, and especially likes red meats. While I
>>cut off the fat from my meat, she not only eats all the fat on her meat but
>>often eats the stuff that I cut off. She has no cholesterol problems. She
>>avoids starch in all forms, and eats very little sugar. At age 59 she is
>>5'7" and weighs 135, and people are always commenting on how great she looks.
>>
>>My grandmother almost always had bacon and eggs for breakfast. She had cream
>>in her tea and smeared bread with butter. She had meat with every meal. She
>>was never much overweight and died 2 weeks short of her 100th birthday after
>>breaking a hip. She had survived a broken hip two years earlier.
>>
>>
>>According to your misguided estimates, they would all have been 250 and
>>frequent visitors to the doctor and died young.

>
>
> Yup... can't rely on trends... my grandfather, (my father's father) never
> retired, worked right up to his dying day at age 97. And no sedentary job, he
> retired from the restaurant business to become a plumber, didn't drive, so
> walked to each job, carrying all his tools/supplies on his back in huge burlap
> sacks... I remember even in his eighties he'd sling a cast iron bath tub onto
> his back, held with a rope around his waist, and carried it up three flights of
> stairs. He must've weighed 220lbs, was about 6' 2", and ate like ten horses,
> every meal was a banquet... calories was not a word in his vocabulary. After
> work he'd sit on the front porch in his rocking chair watching the world pass
> by (the man never seemed to have a care in the world, no worrier he), rocked in
> his chair spooning down a tall class of good cavier washed down by a liter of
> vodka, this every day fare while waiting to be called for dinner... oh, he
> chain smoked Chesterfields. The little old ladies half his age passed by
> muttering that man will drink himself to death, and so he did, at 97.
>
> My mother's father was a roofer, but no ordinary roofer, he was a tall building
> coppersmith, did the roof on the Chrysler building. His knees went in his late
> sixties so he could no longer climb, but he lived until 86. His favorite daily
> snack consisted mainly of tins of oil packed sardines with raw onions eaten
> with entire huge loaves of Russian black bread slathered with butter, and tall
> tea glasses filled to the brim with slivervitz or Old Overhall whiskey... this
> before dinner.
>
> I think their secret to long life was hard physical work and never stuffing
> their emotions. So I decided to retire to a farm, and I always did tell it
> like it is.
>
>
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````


The ETOH probably helped as well, along with the fact that they did not
take trivial things so seriously. Also, the exercise helps.

Moderate drinkers usually have some stigmata of chronic liver damage
(after years of moderate to heavy drinking,) but their arteries are
usually squeaky clean. They (unless they drink and don't eat,) usually
live long lives (unless they are drinkers that practice unsafe habits
(swimming or driving while drunk.)

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero

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>Dave Smith
>
>Dave Erring wrote:
>
>> It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
>> from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
>> chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>>
>> Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>>
>> We should add fitness level too.
>>
>> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>>
>> 40 years of age.
>>
>> 5'10
>>
>> 250#
>>
>> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>>
>> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>>
>> Fitness level: 1 out of 10

>
>My father in law would fail your test. He used to get up in the morning and
>have two spoons full of yogurt, some cereal with fruit, 2 poached eggs with
>cheese and salt along with 2-3 slices of toast, each smeared with butter and
>honey. He went to restaurants for lunch and usually had red meat with gravy.
>He was a big meat eater. Whenever he served a roast he would have seconds,
>thirds, maybe a fourth helping. After his wife died his evening meal was
>reduced to peanut butter on crackers or cold cuts, and always a double
>martini.
>
>The last time I saw him stand on his head and chug a beer he was 86. That
>was about the same time I saw him run a half a city block to catch a
>streetcar. He rarely went to the doctor. He could still fit into his WW I
>army uniform, and he was quite fit and active until he died peacefully in his
>sleep a few weeks before his 95th birthday.
>
>My wife inherited her father's eating habits. She eats bacon and eggs for
>breakfast, or just hard boiled eggs and cheese if she is in a hurry. She goes
>through 1-2 dozen eggs per week, at least a pound of cheese, uses cream in
>her coffee (no substitutes). She uses a lot of butter on vegetables. She
>eats 2-3 times as much meat as I do, and especially likes red meats. While I
>cut off the fat from my meat, she not only eats all the fat on her meat but
>often eats the stuff that I cut off. She has no cholesterol problems. She
>avoids starch in all forms, and eats very little sugar. At age 59 she is
>5'7" and weighs 135, and people are always commenting on how great she looks.
>
>My grandmother almost always had bacon and eggs for breakfast. She had cream
>in her tea and smeared bread with butter. She had meat with every meal. She
>was never much overweight and died 2 weeks short of her 100th birthday after
>breaking a hip. She had survived a broken hip two years earlier.
>
>
>According to your misguided estimates, they would all have been 250 and
>frequent visitors to the doctor and died young.


Yup... can't rely on trends... my grandfather, (my father's father) never
retired, worked right up to his dying day at age 97. And no sedentary job, he
retired from the restaurant business to become a plumber, didn't drive, so
walked to each job, carrying all his tools/supplies on his back in huge burlap
sacks... I remember even in his eighties he'd sling a cast iron bath tub onto
his back, held with a rope around his waist, and carried it up three flights of
stairs. He must've weighed 220lbs, was about 6' 2", and ate like ten horses,
every meal was a banquet... calories was not a word in his vocabulary. After
work he'd sit on the front porch in his rocking chair watching the world pass
by (the man never seemed to have a care in the world, no worrier he), rocked in
his chair spooning down a tall class of good cavier washed down by a liter of
vodka, this every day fare while waiting to be called for dinner... oh, he
chain smoked Chesterfields. The little old ladies half his age passed by
muttering that man will drink himself to death, and so he did, at 97.

My mother's father was a roofer, but no ordinary roofer, he was a tall building
coppersmith, did the roof on the Chrysler building. His knees went in his late
sixties so he could no longer climb, but he lived until 86. His favorite daily
snack consisted mainly of tins of oil packed sardines with raw onions eaten
with entire huge loaves of Russian black bread slathered with butter, and tall
tea glasses filled to the brim with slivervitz or Old Overhall whiskey... this
before dinner.

I think their secret to long life was hard physical work and never stuffing
their emotions. So I decided to retire to a farm, and I always did tell it
like it is.




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Dave Urring wrote:
> Jessica V. wrote:
>
>>
>>Dave Urring wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>>>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
>>>been able to see.
>>>
>>>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>>>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.
>>>

>>
>>Is this the new center for science in the public interest teams up with
>>PETA study to determine that all foodies are overweight and that eating
>>meat is the cause of all illness?
>>

>
>
> It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
> from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
> chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>
> Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>


Not only a troll and a jackass, but a broken record.


jim
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Dave Urring wrote:

> It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
> from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
> chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>
> Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10


My father in law would fail your test. He used to get up in the morning and
have two spoons full of yogurt, some cereal with fruit, 2 poached eggs with
cheese and salt along with 2-3 slices of toast, each smeared with butter and
honey. He went to restaurants for lunch and usually had red meat with gravy.
He was a big meat eater. Whenever he served a roast he would have seconds,
thirds, maybe a fourth helping. After his wife died his evening meal was
reduced to peanut butter on crackers or cold cuts, and always a double
martini.

The last time I saw him stand on his head and chug a beer he was 86. That
was about the same time I saw him run a half a city block to catch a
streetcar. He rarely went to the doctor. He could still fit into his WW I
army uniform, and he was quite fit and active until he died peacefully in his
sleep a few weeks before his 95th birthday.

My wife inherited her father's eating habits. She eats bacon and eggs for
breakfast, or just hard boiled eggs and cheese if she is in a hurry. She goes
through 1-2 dozen eggs per week, at least a pound of cheese, uses cream in
her coffee (no substitutes). She uses a lot of butter on vegetables. She
eats 2-3 times as much meat as I do, and especially likes red meats. While I
cut off the fat from my meat, she not only eats all the fat on her meat but
often eats the stuff that I cut off. She has no cholesterol problems. She
avoids starch in all forms, and eats very little sugar. At age 59 she is
5'7" and weighs 135, and people are always commenting on how great she looks.

My grandmother almost always had bacon and eggs for breakfast. She had cream
in her tea and smeared bread with butter. She had meat with every meal. She
was never much overweight and died 2 weeks short of her 100th birthday after
breaking a hip. She had survived a broken hip two years earlier.


According to your misguided estimates, they would all have been 250 and
frequent visitors to the doctor and died young.









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Dave Urring wrote:
> Jessica V. wrote:
>
>>
>>Dave Urring wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>>>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
>>>been able to see.
>>>
>>>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>>>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.
>>>

>>
>>Is this the new center for science in the public interest teams up with
>>PETA study to determine that all foodies are overweight and that eating
>>meat is the cause of all illness?
>>

>
>
> It isn't the cause of all illness. But consuming a lot of flesh
> from animals that have been mistreated and pumped full of
> chemicals and eat their dead brothers is not a real bright idea.
>
> Especially if you are sitting around on your fat butt all day.
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>


Not only a troll and a jackass, but a broken record.


jim
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Jessica V. > wrote:
>Is this the new center for science in the public interest teams up with
>PETA study to determine that all foodies are overweight and that eating
>meat is the cause of all illness?


It's not eating meat.

It's eating 2 lbs of meat a day when your RDAs call for 12 oz.

--Blair
"Pass the Ultimate Cheeseburgers."
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Jessica V. > wrote:
>Is this the new center for science in the public interest teams up with
>PETA study to determine that all foodies are overweight and that eating
>meat is the cause of all illness?


It's not eating meat.

It's eating 2 lbs of meat a day when your RDAs call for 12 oz.

--Blair
"Pass the Ultimate Cheeseburgers."


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>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>a year they go to the doctor.


That's a stupid idea.
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wrote:
>
>
>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>a year they go to the doctor.

>
> That's a stupid idea.


We should add fitness level too.

Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:

40 years of age.

5'10

250#

You eat a a lot of animal products.

At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.

Fitness level: 1 out of 10



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Dave Urring wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.

>>
>>That's a stupid idea.

>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>
>


Not only a troll, a jackass and a broken record, but a mentalmidget to boot.


jim
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Dave Urring wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.

>>
>>That's a stupid idea.

>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:


I will assume the following about you:

IQ: 100
PIA level 89/100

--
Sir Baldin Pramer, R.P.A.

"Tell the Queen I will call her back as soon as I have finished my tea."
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Dave Urring wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.

>>
>>That's a stupid idea.

>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:


I will assume the following about you:

IQ: 100
PIA level 89/100

--
Sir Baldin Pramer, R.P.A.

"Tell the Queen I will call her back as soon as I have finished my tea."


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Dave Urring wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>>a year they go to the doctor.

>>
>>That's a stupid idea.

>
>
> We should add fitness level too.
>
> Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:
>
> 40 years of age.
>
> 5'10
>
> 250#
>
> You eat a a lot of animal products.
>
> At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.
>
> Fitness level: 1 out of 10
>
>
>


Not only a troll, a jackass and a broken record, but a mentalmidget to boot.


jim
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wrote:
>
>
>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>a year they go to the doctor.

>
> That's a stupid idea.


We should add fitness level too.

Since you don't want to answer, I'll assume the following:

40 years of age.

5'10

250#

You eat a a lot of animal products.

At least a dozen trips to the doctor a year.

Fitness level: 1 out of 10



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In article >,
Dave Urring > wrote:

> Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
> post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
> been able to see.
>
> None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
> eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>
> Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
> we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
> a year they go to the doctor.
>
> I'll kick things off:
>
> Height: 5'10
>
> Weight: 163
>
> Age: 54yrs
>
> Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>
> Doctor-Trips/Year: None
>
> --------------------------------
>
> Your turn:
>
> Height:
>
> Weight:
>
> Age:
>
> Diet-Style
>
> Doctor-Trips/Year
>
>
>
>


I don't think so. ;-)

K.

--
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Dave wrote:

> I'll kick things off:
>
> Height: 5'10
>
> Weight: 163
>
> Age: 54yrs
>
> Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>
> Doctor-Trips/Year: None
>
> --------------------------------


Well, *I* don't care who knows! Besides, who's going to know if I'm lying?

Height: 6' 3"

Weight: 220 lbs

Age: 46

Diet-Style: Whatever I want. That equates to pretty much following the food
pyramid. My main protein source is chicken (I prefer dark meat), second is a
toss-up between seafood and pork, third is beef, then everything else. The
bulk of my nutrition comes from varied grains; I almost always have some
kind of grain-based starch at a meal. It's not as monotonous as it might
sound, since besides the usual rice, wheat, and corn products, I include
barley, millet, quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, and spelt. I also enjoy eating
vegetables, provided they're prepared competently. Dave, you stupid troll,
if you want to know the "diet-style" of the posters here, why don't you read
the threads where we all say what we had for dinner (or Christmas, or
breakfast, or any other meal)?

Tonight I had cornbread and split pea soup for dinner, but the soup wasn't
vegetarian because it had bacon and pepperoni in it -- thanks for the
recipe, Carol! I had a yogurt parfait for dessert. But maybe that's not
typical, because I just got back from six days in Las Vegas, where I *lost*
a pound. Typical or not, it's what I *wanted*, which guideline has served me
pretty well so far.

Doctor-Trips/Year: 1 physical exam, in which I'm always told that I'm
healthy as a troll half my age. (Since cancer runs in my family, it would be
extreme folly to skip the checkup.)

Bob


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Dave Urring > writes:
> I'll kick things off:
>
> Height: 5'10
>
> Weight: 163
>
> Age: 54yrs
>
> Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>
> Doctor-Trips/Year: None


Seeing that you are in your 50's, you *should* be making at least one
trip to the doctor a year, just to screen for health ailments that
might not be symptomatically obvious (heart disease, cancer, and
diabetes, just to name three) when easily treatable.

--
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I think the doctor visit you are writing about is hard to accomplish
with the patients head in the way.

Richard Kaszeta wrote:

>Dave Urring > writes:
>
>
>>I'll kick things off:
>>
>>Height: 5'10
>>
>>Weight: 163
>>
>>Age: 54yrs
>>
>>Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>>
>>Doctor-Trips/Year: None
>>
>>

>
>Seeing that you are in your 50's, you *should* be making at least one
>trip to the doctor a year, just to screen for health ailments that
>might not be symptomatically obvious (heart disease, cancer, and
>diabetes, just to name three) when easily treatable.
>
>
>



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"Dave Urring" > wrote in message
.net...
> Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
> post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
> been able to see.
>
> None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
> eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>
> Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
> we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
> a year they go to the doctor.
>
> I'll kick things off:
>
> Height: 5'10
>
> Weight: 163
>
> Age: 54yrs
>
> Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>
> Doctor-Trips/Year: None
>
> --------------------------------
>
> Your turn:
>
> Height: 6'3"
>
> Weight: 200#
>
> Age: 71 (still average four erections a day :~)
>
> Cholesterol: 152
>
> Diet-Style: Lots of garden truck and poultry, pork and beef
> I raise myself. Wild game too.
> (rabbits mostly, I like how they squeal when you throttle them)
>
> Doctor-Trips/Year: last doctor visit was in 2001 for a wrist sprained
> wringing the scrawney neck of a trespassing vegan who I fed to the pigs.
>
> I workout by hunting. I cover a seven mile circuit daily with my dogs.
> Lots of hills and almost always a vigorous run to kill a rabbit.
>
> You wont stay young if you don't read so I have an extensive library

of the classics and contemporary works.

"I seem to be a verb
an evolutionary process
an integral function of the universe,
and so are you."
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> Dave Erring scribbles:
>
>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
>been able to see.
>
>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>
>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>a year they go to the doctor.
>
>I'll kick things off:
>
>Height: 5'10
>
>Weight: 163
>
>Age: 54yrs
>
>Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>
>Doctor-Trips/Year: None


No routine yearly physical... um, you conveniently omitted your IQ... I'll
assume 40... a pinhead.


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PENMART01 wrote:
>>Dave Erring scribbles:
>>
>>Let's see....The folks here love to eat and cook and shop and
>>post on the Usenet, surf the Web, and watch TV, from what I've
>>been able to see.
>>
>>None of those things burn a lot of calories, but all this
>>eating sure takes a lot of them in.
>>
>>Let's have everyone post their weight and height here, shall
>>we, along with their age and diet-style and how many times
>>a year they go to the doctor.
>>
>>I'll kick things off:
>>
>>Height: 5'10
>>
>>Weight: 163
>>
>>Age: 54yrs
>>
>>Diet-Style: Pure Vegetarian
>>
>>Doctor-Trips/Year: None

>
>
> No routine yearly physical... um, you conveniently omitted your IQ... I'll
> assume 40... a pinhead.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````


Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I see.


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>By the way, anyone who is 54 years old and never goes to the doctor is a
>pinhead.
>
>Peter Aitken


Thank you... was my immediate response as well, which I just posted prior to
reading yours... notice how the pinhead refuses to mention his IQ.


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