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>Subject: Meat-Eaters - Using Up the World's Water.
>From: (know buddee)
>Date: 8/24/2004 3:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Meat-Eaters Soaking Up the World's Water
>
>A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries to
>feed their people, say scientists
>
>by John Vidal
>Guardian/UK
>
>
>Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
>increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
>scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
>
>They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops but
>trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
>large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
>high-value uses.
>
>With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
>further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding water
>to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
>governments.
>
>Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
>
>"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years' time,
>but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot more
>malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist with
>the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
>part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
>options for feeding growing populations.
>
>"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
>rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
>about the future," the IWMI report says.
>
>"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
>great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the equivalent
>of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
>1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
>countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
>
>The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
>impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
>western Europe and North America without destroying the environment.
>
>A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when economically
>possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize. On
>average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat compared
>with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
>
>In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change their
>eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in many
>sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase most
>rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating more,
>not less," the report says.
>
>Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
>based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
>problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
>
>"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
>The world is simply running out of water."
>
>Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow the
>world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
>are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
>ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
>
>
>The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
>the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
>having the money to import their food. "The question remains whether
>the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be able
>to afford virtual water," the report says.
>
>The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination of
>hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
>varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
>reduce water consumption and improve yields.
>
>Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
>technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
>potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
>
>The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
>hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
>
>"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
>potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there is
>hope," one of the report's authors said.
>
>Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
>water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
>population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
>cities.
>
>Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
>will be both a problem and an opportunity.
>
>"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available for
>agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice but
>a necessity", the report says.
>
>The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
>"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
>countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
>technologies] because they will not get a return on their investments.
>
>"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
>long-term improvements."
>
>© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
>
>
>Published on Monday, August 23, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html
>
>pub'd here too:
>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0823-02.htm
>
>===============
>
>"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
>The World Teacher
>http://www.share-international.or


Or we could stop overpopulation...DUH
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>Subject: Meat-Eaters - Using Up the World's Water.
>From: (know buddee)
>Date: 8/24/2004 3:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Meat-Eaters Soaking Up the World's Water
>
>A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries to
>feed their people, say scientists
>
>by John Vidal
>Guardian/UK
>
>
>Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
>increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
>scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
>
>They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops but
>trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
>large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
>high-value uses.
>
>With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
>further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding water
>to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
>governments.
>
>Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
>
>"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years' time,
>but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot more
>malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist with
>the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
>part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
>options for feeding growing populations.
>
>"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
>rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
>about the future," the IWMI report says.
>
>"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
>great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the equivalent
>of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
>1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
>countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
>
>The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
>impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
>western Europe and North America without destroying the environment.
>
>A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when economically
>possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize. On
>average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat compared
>with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
>
>In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change their
>eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in many
>sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase most
>rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating more,
>not less," the report says.
>
>Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
>based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
>problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
>
>"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
>The world is simply running out of water."
>
>Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow the
>world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
>are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
>ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
>
>
>The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
>the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
>having the money to import their food. "The question remains whether
>the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be able
>to afford virtual water," the report says.
>
>The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination of
>hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
>varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
>reduce water consumption and improve yields.
>
>Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
>technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
>potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
>
>The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
>hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
>
>"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
>potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there is
>hope," one of the report's authors said.
>
>Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
>water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
>population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
>cities.
>
>Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
>will be both a problem and an opportunity.
>
>"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available for
>agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice but
>a necessity", the report says.
>
>The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
>"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
>countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
>technologies] because they will not get a return on their investments.
>
>"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
>long-term improvements."
>
>© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
>
>
>Published on Monday, August 23, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html
>
>pub'd here too:
>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0823-02.htm
>
>===============
>
>"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
>The World Teacher
>http://www.share-international.or


Or we could stop overpopulation...DUH
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On 25 Aug 2004 01:25:38 GMT, (Fx199) wrote:

>>Subject: Meat-Eaters - Using Up the World's Water.
>>From:
(know buddee)
>>Date: 8/24/2004 3:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Meat-Eaters Soaking Up the World's Water
>>
>>A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries to
>>feed their people, say scientists
>>
>>by John Vidal
>>Guardian/UK
>>
>>
>>Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
>>increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
>>scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
>>
>>They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops but
>>trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
>>large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
>>high-value uses.
>>
>>With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
>>further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding water
>>to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
>>governments.
>>
>>Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
>>
>>"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years' time,
>>but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot more
>>malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist with
>>the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
>>part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
>>options for feeding growing populations.
>>
>>"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
>>rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
>>about the future," the IWMI report says.
>>
>>"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
>>great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the equivalent
>>of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
>>1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
>>countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
>>
>>The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
>>impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
>>western Europe and North America without destroying the environment.
>>
>>A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when economically
>>possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize. On
>>average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat compared
>>with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
>>
>>In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change their
>>eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in many
>>sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase most
>>rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating more,
>>not less," the report says.
>>
>>Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
>>based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
>>problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
>>
>>"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
>>The world is simply running out of water."
>>
>>Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow the
>>world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
>>are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
>>ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
>>
>>
>>The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
>>the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
>>having the money to import their food. "The question remains whether
>>the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be able
>>to afford virtual water," the report says.
>>
>>The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination of
>>hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
>>varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
>>reduce water consumption and improve yields.
>>
>>Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
>>technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
>>potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
>>
>>The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
>>hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
>>
>>"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
>>potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there is
>>hope," one of the report's authors said.
>>
>>Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
>>water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
>>population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
>>cities.
>>
>>Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
>>will be both a problem and an opportunity.
>>
>>"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available for
>>agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice but
>>a necessity", the report says.
>>
>>The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
>>"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
>>countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
>>technologies] because they will not get a return on their investments.
>>
>>"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
>>long-term improvements."
>>
>>© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
>>
>>
>>Published on Monday, August 23, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
>>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html
>>
>>pub'd here too:
>>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0823-02.htm
>>
>>===============
>>
>>"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
>>The World Teacher
>>http://www.share-international.or

>
>Or we could stop overpopulation...DUH

Or we could understand scare tactics, like if no one has heard 75%
of the earth is covered by water, Yes I know salt, however before it
gets to far down the drought stage some Company will find it
financially benificial to invent/improve a method to remove salt from
sea water at good cost per gallon breakdown.
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On 25 Aug 2004 01:25:38 GMT, (Fx199) wrote:

>>Subject: Meat-Eaters - Using Up the World's Water.
>>From:
(know buddee)
>>Date: 8/24/2004 3:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Meat-Eaters Soaking Up the World's Water
>>
>>A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries to
>>feed their people, say scientists
>>
>>by John Vidal
>>Guardian/UK
>>
>>
>>Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
>>increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
>>scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
>>
>>They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops but
>>trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
>>large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
>>high-value uses.
>>
>>With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
>>further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding water
>>to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
>>governments.
>>
>>Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
>>
>>"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years' time,
>>but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot more
>>malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist with
>>the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
>>part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
>>options for feeding growing populations.
>>
>>"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
>>rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
>>about the future," the IWMI report says.
>>
>>"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
>>great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the equivalent
>>of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
>>1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
>>countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
>>
>>The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
>>impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
>>western Europe and North America without destroying the environment.
>>
>>A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when economically
>>possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize. On
>>average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat compared
>>with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
>>
>>In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change their
>>eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in many
>>sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase most
>>rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating more,
>>not less," the report says.
>>
>>Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
>>based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
>>problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
>>
>>"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
>>The world is simply running out of water."
>>
>>Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow the
>>world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
>>are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
>>ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
>>
>>
>>The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
>>the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
>>having the money to import their food. "The question remains whether
>>the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be able
>>to afford virtual water," the report says.
>>
>>The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination of
>>hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
>>varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
>>reduce water consumption and improve yields.
>>
>>Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
>>technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
>>potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
>>
>>The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
>>hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
>>
>>"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
>>potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there is
>>hope," one of the report's authors said.
>>
>>Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
>>water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
>>population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
>>cities.
>>
>>Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
>>will be both a problem and an opportunity.
>>
>>"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available for
>>agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice but
>>a necessity", the report says.
>>
>>The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
>>"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
>>countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
>>technologies] because they will not get a return on their investments.
>>
>>"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
>>long-term improvements."
>>
>>© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
>>
>>
>>Published on Monday, August 23, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
>>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html
>>
>>pub'd here too:
>>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0823-02.htm
>>
>>===============
>>
>>"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
>>The World Teacher
>>http://www.share-international.or

>
>Or we could stop overpopulation...DUH

Or we could understand scare tactics, like if no one has heard 75%
of the earth is covered by water, Yes I know salt, however before it
gets to far down the drought stage some Company will find it
financially benificial to invent/improve a method to remove salt from
sea water at good cost per gallon breakdown.
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Thomas
 
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God,
How Fu**ing stupid is this post. The world is running out of water.
Yeah right. Just like there is actually "global warming" caused by the evil
humans. LMFAO! Actually imho the world is running short of people who can
actually think instead of being sucked in by crap like this.

"Fx199" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Meat-Eaters - Using Up the World's Water.
> >From: (know buddee)
> >Date: 8/24/2004 3:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >Meat-Eaters Soaking Up the World's Water
> >
> >A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries to
> >feed their people, say scientists
> >
> >by John Vidal
> >Guardian/UK
> >
> >
> >Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
> >increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
> >scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
> >
> >They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops but
> >trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
> >large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
> >high-value uses.
> >
> >With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
> >further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding water
> >to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
> >governments.
> >
> >Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
> >
> >"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years' time,
> >but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot more
> >malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist with
> >the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
> >part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
> >options for feeding growing populations.
> >
> >"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
> >rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
> >about the future," the IWMI report says.
> >
> >"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
> >great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the equivalent
> >of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
> >1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
> >countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
> >
> >The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
> >impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
> >western Europe and North America without destroying the environment.
> >
> >A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when economically
> >possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize. On
> >average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat compared
> >with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
> >
> >In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change their
> >eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in many
> >sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase most
> >rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating more,
> >not less," the report says.
> >
> >Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
> >based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
> >problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
> >
> >"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
> >The world is simply running out of water."
> >
> >Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow the
> >world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
> >are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
> >ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
> >
> >
> >The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
> >the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
> >having the money to import their food. "The question remains whether
> >the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be able
> >to afford virtual water," the report says.
> >
> >The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination of
> >hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
> >varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
> >reduce water consumption and improve yields.
> >
> >Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
> >technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
> >potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
> >
> >The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
> >hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
> >
> >"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
> >potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there is
> >hope," one of the report's authors said.
> >
> >Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
> >water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
> >population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
> >cities.
> >
> >Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
> >will be both a problem and an opportunity.
> >
> >"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available for
> >agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice but
> >a necessity", the report says.
> >
> >The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
> >"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
> >countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
> >technologies] because they will not get a return on their investments.
> >
> >"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
> >long-term improvements."
> >
> >© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
> >
> >
> >Published on Monday, August 23, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
> >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html
> >
> >pub'd here too:
> >http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0823-02.htm
> >
> >===============
> >
> >"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
> >The World Teacher
> >http://www.share-international.or

>
> Or we could stop overpopulation...DUH





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Thomas

Obviously you have not heard that global warming is caused by global
cooling, and this it follows that after a cool period we need to heat
things up a bit, so we discovered the internal combustion engine and
that did it, and now we need to find a way to cool things off again so
we can decrease the size of the o-Zone hole and ward off skin cancer as
well as breath better, but it is a difficult thing to do, so we need to
build better models and think about this more, and now we have this
water thing and solving it means no meat, ohh my God! :-) & :->

That's the best James Joyce or Wm. Faulkner I can do.

Regards

Jerry @ The Artisan
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"Thomas" > wrote in message
...
> God,
> How Fu**ing stupid is this post. The world is running out of

water.
> Yeah right. Just like there is actually "global warming" caused by

the evil
> humans. LMFAO! Actually imho the world is running short of people

who can
> actually think instead of being sucked in by crap like this.
>
> "Fx199" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Subject: Meat-Eaters - Using Up the World's Water.
> > >From: (know buddee)
> > >Date: 8/24/2004 3:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time
> > >Message-id: >
> > >
> > >Meat-Eaters Soaking Up the World's Water
> > >
> > >A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries

to
> > >feed their people, say scientists
> > >
> > >by John Vidal
> > >Guardian/UK
> > >
> > >
> > >Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
> > >increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
> > >scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
> > >
> > >They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops

but
> > >trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
> > >large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
> > >high-value uses.
> > >
> > >With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
> > >further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding

water
> > >to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
> > >governments.
> > >
> > >Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
> > >
> > >"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years'

time,
> > >but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot

more
> > >malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist

with
> > >the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
> > >part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
> > >options for feeding growing populations.
> > >
> > >"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
> > >rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
> > >about the future," the IWMI report says.
> > >
> > >"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
> > >great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the

equivalent
> > >of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
> > >1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
> > >countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
> > >
> > >The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
> > >impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
> > >western Europe and North America without destroying the

environment.
> > >
> > >A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when

economically
> > >possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize.

On
> > >average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat

compared
> > >with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
> > >
> > >In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change

their
> > >eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in

many
> > >sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase

most
> > >rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating

more,
> > >not less," the report says.
> > >
> > >Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
> > >based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
> > >problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
> > >
> > >"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
> > >The world is simply running out of water."
> > >
> > >Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow

the
> > >world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
> > >are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
> > >ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
> > >
> > >
> > >The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
> > >the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
> > >having the money to import their food. "The question remains

whether
> > >the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be

able
> > >to afford virtual water," the report says.
> > >
> > >The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination

of
> > >hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
> > >varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
> > >reduce water consumption and improve yields.
> > >
> > >Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
> > >technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
> > >potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
> > >
> > >The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
> > >hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
> > >
> > >"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
> > >potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there

is
> > >hope," one of the report's authors said.
> > >
> > >Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
> > >water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
> > >population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
> > >cities.
> > >
> > >Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
> > >will be both a problem and an opportunity.
> > >
> > >"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available

for
> > >agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice

but
> > >a necessity", the report says.
> > >
> > >The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
> > >"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
> > >countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
> > >technologies] because they will not get a return on their

investments.
> > >
> > >"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
> > >long-term improvements."
> > >
> > >© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
> > >
> > >
> > >Published on Monday, August 23, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
> > >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html
> > >
> > >pub'd here too:
> > >http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0823-02.htm
> > >
> > >===============
> > >
> > >"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
> > >The World Teacher
> > >http://www.share-international.or

> >
> > Or we could stop overpopulation...DUH

>
>



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