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Conrad Edwards

15-08-2004 07:01 AM

1sec timer and keypad on microwave ovens?

We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.
Looking for a replacement we have seen a Panasonic with a 1s timer,
but all others seem to be a minimum of 10s intervals. All have stupid
10min, 1min, 10s keys or rotary dials that really annoy us rather than
having a proper keypad.

Any Europeans know of some good makes that have a keypad to enter any
cooking time you want?

Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?

Edwin Pawlowski

15-08-2004 12:53 PM

"Conrad Edwards" > wrote in message
> We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
> where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.

>
> Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
> a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?

I've never had an instance where just a few seconds made a difference in
what I was doing in the MW. No, I'd not pay a premium. Just curious, given
that the unit is very old, is the keypad much cheaper than a new MW?
especially one with more power and probably better features?

Edwin Pawlowski

15-08-2004 12:53 PM

PENMART01

15-08-2004 01:22 PM

>"Conrad Edwards" wrote:
>
>We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
>where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.
>
>
>Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
>a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?

Care to explain "three time keys". AFAIK older microwave ovens used mechanical
dial timers. And what do you mean "pay extra"... your post makes absolutely no
sense whatsoever (other than the fact that you're a cheap *******), are you
mentally challenged?

---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

PENMART01

15-08-2004 01:22 PM

Conrad Edwards

15-08-2004 03:49 PM

PENMART01 wrote:
>>"Conrad Edwards" wrote:
>>
>>We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
>>where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.
>>
>>
>>Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
>>a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?
>
>
> Care to explain "three time keys". AFAIK older microwave ovens used mechanical
> dial timers. And what do you mean "pay extra"... your post makes absolutely no
> sense whatsoever (other than the fact that you're a cheap *******), are you
> mentally challenged?
>
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````
That's a very constructive comment.
If you look at a lot of modern microwaves the timers keys, as I
explained if you bothered to read, are usually 10min, 1min, 1sec - hence
three timer keys.

I can live to timing to the nearest 10s interval, but my wife is set on
having a 1sec timer...if you are married you understand how much earache
you can get if you buy something that they don't want.

We wouldn't use a lot of the features...usually just use defrost or
basic timer/power level. Any 'proper' cooking is done in a 'proper'
electric oven.

Conrad Edwards

15-08-2004 03:49 PM

Wayne

15-08-2004 04:04 PM

Conrad Edwards > wrote in
:

> PENMART01 wrote:
>>>"Conrad Edwards" wrote:
>>>
>>>We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
>>>where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.
>>>
>>>
>>>Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
>>>a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?
>>
>>
>> Care to explain "three time keys". AFAIK older microwave ovens used
>> mechanical dial timers. And what do you mean "pay extra"... your
>> post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever (other than the fact that
>> you're a cheap *******), are you mentally challenged?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>> *********
>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>> Sheldon
>> ````````````
> That's a very constructive comment.
> If you look at a lot of modern microwaves the timers keys, as I
> explained if you bothered to read, are usually 10min, 1min, 1sec -
> hence three timer keys.
>
> I can live to timing to the nearest 10s interval, but my wife is set
> on having a 1sec timer...if you are married you understand how much
> earache you can get if you buy something that they don't want.
>
> We wouldn't use a lot of the features...usually just use defrost or
> basic timer/power level. Any 'proper' cooking is done in a 'proper'
> electric oven.

It appears there's a significant difference between microwave ovens sold in
the UK and the US. Here in the US, I've never even seen a model that has
such limited controls as you describe, regardless of price. As I stated in
an earlier post, most units here in the US have almost infinite timing
control from 1 second to 99:99 minutes.

I would suggest posting your question on uk.food+drink.misc where folks
will know what choices you're dealing with.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne

15-08-2004 04:04 PM

Steve Calvin

15-08-2004 04:41 PM

Wayne wrote:

> Conrad Edwards > wrote in
> :
<snip>
>>I can live to timing to the nearest 10s interval, but my wife is set
>>on having a 1sec timer...if you are married you understand how much
>>earache you can get if you buy something that they don't want.
>>
>>We wouldn't use a lot of the features...usually just use defrost or
>>basic timer/power level. Any 'proper' cooking is done in a 'proper'
>>electric oven.
>
>
> It appears there's a significant difference between microwave ovens sold in
> the UK and the US. Here in the US, I've never even seen a model that has
> such limited controls as you describe, regardless of price. As I stated in
> an earlier post, most units here in the US have almost infinite timing
> control from 1 second to 99:99 minutes.
>
> I would suggest posting your question on uk.food+drink.misc where folks
> will know what choices you're dealing with.
>

I don't know if they sell them across the pond but my GE Profile
Performance can be set to whatever time (minutes/seconds) that you
want. That may be due to it's being a combination
microwave/convection unit?? Dunno.

I'd never again buy just a microwave though I can tell ya that. The
micro/convection is *much* more versatile. You'll have two ovens for
holidays, parties, whatever.

As for why your wife would care about having a 1 second timer is
beyond me but having lived with women all of my life I can understand
your conviction to find one. I've learned over the years that it's
much simpler when dealing with the "fairer sex" to simply go into "yes
Dear" mode and give up. ;-)

--
Steve

Whose cruel idea was it for the word "lisp" to have an "s" in it?

Nancy Young

15-08-2004 04:57 PM

Wayne wrote:
>
> Conrad Edwards > wrote in

> > If you look at a lot of modern microwaves the timers keys, as I
> > explained if you bothered to read, are usually 10min, 1min, 1sec -
> > hence three timer keys.
> >
> > I can live to timing to the nearest 10s interval, but my wife is set
> > on having a 1sec timer...if you are married you understand how much
> > earache you can get if you buy something that they don't want.

> It appears there's a significant difference between microwave ovens sold in
> the UK and the US.

Thank you, Wayne! for pointing that out. I was so puzzled, what on
earth is the guy talking about? I completely missed the UK thing
while puzzling over the three keys.

> Here in the US, I've never even seen a model that has
> such limited controls as you describe, regardless of price.

They all have one second timers that I've even seen, wouldn't cross
my mind to look for that feature. At times it's annoying when I
think I set it for whatever minutes and it beeps at whatever seconds
because I forgot to put in the 00.

Regardless, most of the time I can just hit 1 or 2 or 3 for one minute
and it will go on full power without any further buttons to push.

> I would suggest posting your question on uk.food+drink.misc where folks
> will know what choices you're dealing with.

Good idea.

nancy

Nancy Young

15-08-2004 04:57 PM

Nancy Young

15-08-2004 04:57 PM

Shawn Hearn

15-08-2004 11:42 PM

In article >,
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:

> "Conrad Edwards" > wrote in message
> > We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
> > where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.
>
> >
> > Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
> > a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?
>
> I've never had an instance where just a few seconds made a difference in
> what I was doing in the MW. No, I'd not pay a premium. Just curious, given
> that the unit is very old, is the keypad much cheaper than a new MW?
> especially one with more power and probably better features?

That's what I feel too. In all the years I have been cooking and
using microwave ovens, I never found a reason not to use one minute
intervals for cooking times with a microwave oven.

Shawn Hearn

15-08-2004 11:42 PM

Shawn Hearn

15-08-2004 11:42 PM

Barry Grau

16-08-2004 10:22 PM

Shawn Hearn > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
> > "Conrad Edwards" > wrote in message
> > > We have an ancient Saisho MW4500 microwave oven that has a keypad
> > > where any cooking time can be programmed in to the nearest second.
>
> > >
> > > Given that keypads can't be too expensive, would any other people pay
> > > a premium to have a keypad rather than three time keys?
> >
> > I've never had an instance where just a few seconds made a difference in
> > what I was doing in the MW. No, I'd not pay a premium. Just curious, given
> > that the unit is very old, is the keypad much cheaper than a new MW?
> > especially one with more power and probably better features?
>
> That's what I feel too. In all the years I have been cooking and
> using microwave ovens, I never found a reason not to use one minute
> intervals for cooking times with a microwave oven.

Ever melted butter in a microwave oven?

-bwg

Barry Grau

16-08-2004 10:22 PM

Steve Calvin

17-08-2004 01:12 AM

Barry Grau wrote:
<snip>
>>
>>That's what I feel too. In all the years I have been cooking and
>>using microwave ovens, I never found a reason not to use one minute
>>intervals for cooking times with a microwave oven.
>
>
>
> Ever melted butter in a microwave oven?
>
> -bwg

yup, and stand right there and watch it 'cause it happens so fast.
--
Steve

Whose cruel idea was it for the word "lisp" to have an "s" in it?

Steve Calvin

17-08-2004 01:12 AM

George

17-08-2004 01:36 AM

"Shawn Hearn" > wrote in message
...
> > I've never had an instance where just a few seconds made a difference in
> > what I was doing in the MW. No, I'd not pay a premium. Just curious,
given
> > that the unit is very old, is the keypad much cheaper than a new MW?
> > especially one with more power and probably better features?
>
> That's what I feel too. In all the years I have been cooking and
> using microwave ovens, I never found a reason not to use one minute
> intervals for cooking times with a microwave oven.

I used to do that until our old oven died and we bought a Panasonic 1300
Watt oven. If you put in say a large cup of coffee to reheat and you set any
longer than 35 sec it will be boiling and 25 sec is plenty for a hot dog.

George

17-08-2004 01:36 AM

Wayne

17-08-2004 01:42 AM

"George" > wrote in
:

>
> "Shawn Hearn" > wrote in message
> ...
>> > I've never had an instance where just a few seconds made a
>> > difference in what I was doing in the MW. No, I'd not pay a
>> > premium. Just curious,
> given
>> > that the unit is very old, is the keypad much cheaper than a new
>> > MW? especially one with more power and probably better features?
>>
>> That's what I feel too. In all the years I have been cooking and
>> using microwave ovens, I never found a reason not to use one minute
>> intervals for cooking times with a microwave oven.
>
> I used to do that until our old oven died and we bought a Panasonic
> 1300 Watt oven. If you put in say a large cup of coffee to reheat and
> you set any longer than 35 sec it will be boiling and 25 sec is plenty
> for a hot dog.

You must have the same model we have, George. Lotsa power and lotsa
features. Do you have the model with the inverter power control? Much
nicer than the "pulsing" power on lower settings.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

blake murphy

19-08-2004 01:09 AM

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:41:42 -0400, Steve Calvin
> wrote:
>
>As for why your wife would care about having a 1 second timer is
>beyond me but having lived with women all of my life I can understand
>your conviction to find one. I've learned over the years that it's
>much simpler when dealing with the "fairer sex" to simply go into "yes
>Dear" mode and give up. ;-)

but you are required to mutter afterwards.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

19-08-2004 01:09 AM

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 01:26 AM

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:41:42 -0400, Steve Calvin
> > wrote:
>
>>As for why your wife would care about having a 1 second timer is
>>beyond me but having lived with women all of my life I can understand
>>your conviction to find one. I've learned over the years that it's
>>much simpler when dealing with the "fairer sex" to simply go into "yes
>>Dear" mode and give up. ;-)
>
>
> but you are required to mutter afterwards.
>
> your pal,
> blake
H*ll no. I say it right out loud. She's used to me by now. ;-)

--
Steve

Whose cruel idea was it for the word "lisp" to have an "s" in it?

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 01:26 AM

Nancy Young

19-08-2004 01:38 AM

Steve Calvin wrote:
>
> blake murphy wrote:

> > but you are required to mutter afterwards.

> H*ll no. I say it right out loud. She's used to me by now. ;-)

Heh. And then we have women who say, SHUT. UP. (laughing) Hey, I
made my own money, I don't remember signing a form where you get all
the say so.

Besides, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine. It's only
fair, no?

nancy

Nancy Young

19-08-2004 01:38 AM

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 01:51 AM

Nancy Young wrote:

> Steve Calvin wrote:
>
>>blake murphy wrote:
>
>
>>>but you are required to mutter afterwards.
>
>
>>H*ll no. I say it right out loud. She's used to me by now. ;-)
>
>
> Heh. And then we have women who say, SHUT. UP. (laughing) Hey, I
> made my own money, I don't remember signing a form where you get all
> the say so.
>
> Besides, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine. It's only
> fair, no?
>
> nancy

Now, that's the only thing I can't say to her. I said "shut up" to her
once, and ONLY once. It wasn't pretty. ;-)

Actually she usually says, " ", well maybe I shouldn't. ;-)

As for $? Nah, she has hers, I have mine, and we have ours. We're a
50/50 household, right down to the "chores".

She did my laundry once. She shrunk one of my shirts (on purpose?
<shrug>) and I've done 'em ever since. If I have nothing to wear? My
problem.

--
Steve

Whose cruel idea was it for the word "lisp" to have an "s" in it?

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 01:51 AM

Nancy Young

19-08-2004 02:24 AM

Steve Calvin wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:

> >>H*ll no. I say it right out loud. She's used to me by now. ;-)

> > Heh. And then we have women who say, SHUT. UP. (laughing) Hey, I
> > made my own money, I don't remember signing a form where you get all
> > the say so.
> >
> > Besides, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine. It's only
> > fair, no?

> Now, that's the only thing I can't say to her. I said "shut up" to her
> once, and ONLY once. It wasn't pretty. ;-)

(laughing!) I think I only said that once, too. Last week. It was
deserved.

> As for $? Nah, she has hers, I have mine, and we have ours. We're a
> 50/50 household, right down to the "chores".

The only way. Otherwise, why bother being married.

I was only goofing on you guys for complaining your wife wanted some
feature on a microwave/whatever. So what, she has a right.

> She did my laundry once. She shrunk one of my shirts (on purpose?
> <shrug>) and I've done 'em ever since. If I have nothing to wear? My
> problem.

Until recently I did all the laundry, not his and hers. No problem.
Now, if he would stop that, I would be thrilled. I'll take care of
it.

Imagine, of all things to complain about.

nancy

Nancy Young

19-08-2004 02:24 AM

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 02:58 AM

Nancy Young wrote:
<snip>
>
> I was only goofing on you guys for complaining your wife wanted some
> feature on a microwave/whatever. So what, she has a right.

Me thinks that you missed it... That wasn't me. (H*ll, I'm the cook
'round these parts!) That was Conrad from Europe.

>
>
>>She did my laundry once. She shrunk one of my shirts (on purpose?
>><shrug>) and I've done 'em ever since. If I have nothing to wear? My
>>problem.
>
>
> Until recently I did all the laundry, not his and hers. No problem.
> Now, if he would stop that, I would be thrilled. I'll take care of
> it.

Just shrink a few things... done deal.

>
> Imagine, of all things to complain about.
>
> nancy

--
Steve

Whose cruel idea was it for the word "lisp" to have an "s" in it?

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 02:58 AM

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 02:58 AM

Steve Calvin

19-08-2004 02:58 AM

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