Happy Hanukkah :-). I got a pile of latkes for whomever wants some :-)
--
It's Tis Herself

Elana Kehoe > wrote:

> Happy Hanukkah :-). I got a pile of latkes for whomever wants some :-)

Man, I gotta pay attention to what group I'm posting in. Sorry folks,
was meant for another.
--
It's Tis Herself

"Elana Kehoe" > wrote in message
...
: Elana Kehoe > wrote:
:
: > Happy Hanukkah :-). I got a pile of latkes for whomever
wants some :-)
:
: Man, I gotta pay attention to what group I'm posting in. Sorry
folks,
: was meant for another.
: --
: It's Tis Herself
========

Tease!! No fair! There was a recent discussion where the
mention and description thereof were making a few of us rather
hungry... and now you offer them up and then take them back!
Bummer.

--
Cyndi
<Remove a "b" to reply>

> I got a pile of latkes for whomever wants some :-)

Care to share your recipe?

Happy and a Healthy Holiday Season to all!!!

Rick & Cyndi > wrote:

> Tease!! No fair! There was a recent discussion where the
> mention and description thereof were making a few of us rather
> hungry... and now you offer them up and then take them back!
> Bummer.

You're more than welcome to as many as you like..I've *tons*.
--
It's Tis Herself

Gtwy4cb > wrote:

> > I got a pile of latkes for whomever wants some :-)
>
> Care to share your recipe?

I might get slammed on it in here :-). It's from What's To Eat, a
milk-free, egg-free cookbook.

Basically, 2 russet potatoes (I just use whatever's in the house, cause
I don't know the equivalent of Russets), peeled.
1/2 onion

Grate both in food processor, the switch blades to the metal chopping
blade, and add 1/2 c flour, 1 t baking powder, and process to a thick
chunky mush. I drop by spoonfuls to veggie oil in a non-stick pan
(cause those puppies can stick), fry, and put in low oven to keep warm.

Works really well, and they come out great. We have soy sour cream and
homemade applesauce on the side (we're a dairy free house).
--
It's Tis Herself

"Elana Kehoe" > wrote in message
...
> Elana Kehoe > wrote:
>
> > Happy Hanukkah :-). I got a pile of latkes for whomever wants some :-)
>
> Man, I gotta pay attention to what group I'm posting in. Sorry folks,
> was meant for another.
> --
> It's Tis Herself

That's alright. My favorite pub in Dublin is Kehoe's. Nice to see the name.

Charlie

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:15:59 +0000, (Elana Kehoe) wrote:

>Happy Hanukkah :-). I got a pile of latkes for whomever wants some :-)

Great just put them in an E-mail.

If I don't get them I guess I will just have to make them myself.
:-)Happy Hanukkah
Pan Ohco

Charles Gifford > wrote:

> That's alright. My favorite pub in Dublin is Kehoe's. Nice to see the name.

The one on Sth. Anne St? Was my husband's great-uncle's place :-)
--
It's Tis Herself

Elana Kehoe wrote:

> Works really well, and they come out great. We have soy sour cream and
> homemade applesauce on the side (we're a dairy free house).

I understand the convenience in being either meatless or dairyless to
keep a kosher kitchen, but how do you get your calcium (and vitamins A &
D)? Orange juice? Supplements?

Just curious,
-j.

In article >, June Oshiro
> writes:

>Elana Kehoe wrote:
>
>> Works really well, and they come out great. We have soy sour cream and
>> homemade applesauce on the side (we're a dairy free house).
>
>I understand the convenience in being either meatless or dairyless to
>keep a kosher kitchen, but how do you get your calcium (and vitamins A &
>D)? Orange juice? Supplements?
>
>Just curious,

They eat out, way across town.... mostly they cheat by munching away after
sundown in stupidmarket parking lots... packets of Oscar Meyer bologna, Kraft
singles, cold tube steaks, etc. Really! Anytime you spot people eating
coldcut sammiches hunched down in their cars in stupidmarket parking lots you
can be well assured that they are so-called vegetarians getting a protein fix
on the sly. There is no such thing as an honest vegetarian.


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Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

I'm not the original poster.

Calcium and vitamins A & D are found lots of places besides dairy.
Green vegetables and tofu come to mind. Someone living in a dairy free
house could drink a glass of milk away from home. As restricted diets
go, getting all the nutrients needed while dairy free or meat free is
fairly easy. Some other food restricted diets present far more of a
challenge.

--Lia


June Oshiro wrote:
> Elana Kehoe wrote:
>
>> Works really well, and they come out great. We have soy sour cream and
>> homemade applesauce on the side (we're a dairy free house).
>
>
> I understand the convenience in being either meatless or dairyless to
> keep a kosher kitchen, but how do you get your calcium (and vitamins A &
> D)? Orange juice? Supplements?
>
> Just curious,
> -j.
>

Julia Altshuler writes:

>Calcium and vitamins A & D are found lots of places besides dairy.
>Green vegetables and tofu come to mind.

We receive our natural Vitamin D from sunlight, there is no other natural
source. There is no Vitamin D in any vegetable, green or otherwise, and
definitely none in tofu... were it that simple it would not be necessary to
fortify milk with Vitamin D (Vitamin D does not occur naturally in milk or any
other food)... besides sunlight (ultra violet irradiation) the only other
naturally occurring Vitamin D is derived from a well nourished woman's breast
milk.

>getting all the nutrients needed while dairy free or meat free is fairly easy.


Actually not only isn't it easy, it's not possible.


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In article >,
(PENMART01) writes:

>Julia Altshuler writes:
>
>>Calcium and vitamins A & D are found lots of places besides dairy.
>>Green vegetables and tofu come to mind.
>
>We receive our natural Vitamin D from sunlight, there is no other natural
>source.

Correction: Vitamin D does occur naturally in cod liver oil, and in small
amounts in raw egg yolk (heating destroys the vitamin), but I don't consider
cod liver oil a food (not unless you're an Eskimo) so much as a
pharmaceutical... unless you're oolu of the north I can't imagine anyone
dressing their endive with EV cod liver oil.


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June Oshiro > wrote:

> Elana Kehoe wrote:
>
> > Works really well, and they come out great. We have soy sour cream and
> > homemade applesauce on the side (we're a dairy free house).
>
> I understand the convenience in being either meatless or dairyless to
> keep a kosher kitchen, but how do you get your calcium (and vitamins A &
> D)? Orange juice? Supplements?

We're not kosher, my son is allergic to dairy and egg (among others).
I'm still nursing him, so I'm off all that too.

I take supplements morning and night, he gets 15mls of liquid calcium
every day. Our orange juice isn't calcium enriched, but the soymilk
that I have and the rice milk he has is.
--
It's Tis Herself

Elana Kehoe wrote:

> We're not kosher,

Ah, you talked latkes and then dairy free, so I jumped to a different
(and wrong!) conclusion.

Thanks for the info. I was just curious.

-j.

(Elana Kehoe) writes:
>
>We're not kosher, my son is allergic to dairy and egg (among others).
>I'm still nursing him,

Hiya, lovely Elana... I can help you.


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June Oshiro wrote in message ...
>Elana Kehoe wrote:
>
>> Works really well, and they come out great. We have soy sour cream and
>> homemade applesauce on the side (we're a dairy free house).
>
>I understand the convenience in being either meatless or dairyless to
>keep a kosher kitchen, but how do you get your calcium (and vitamins A &
>D)? Orange juice? Supplements?
>
>Just curious,
>-j.

many vegetables are high in calcium, as well as vitamin A (vitamin d , you
can get from being in the sun for a bit each day) actually, because excess
dietary protein has been shown to leach calcium from your bones, dairy
products are not the most ideal source for ones calcium needs.

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL


" I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have
weapons
of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
Ari Fleischer
7/9/2003




>

PENMART01 wrote in message >...
>Julia Altshuler writes:
>
>>Calcium and vitamins A & D are found lots of places besides dairy.
>>Green vegetables and tofu come to mind.
>
>We receive our natural Vitamin D from sunlight, there is no other natural
>source. There is no Vitamin D in any vegetable, green or otherwise, and
>definitely none in tofu... were it that simple it would not be necessary to
>fortify milk with Vitamin D (Vitamin D does not occur naturally in milk or
any
>other food)... besides sunlight (ultra violet irradiation) the only other
>naturally occurring Vitamin D is derived from a well nourished woman's
breast
>milk.
>
>>getting all the nutrients needed while dairy free or meat free is fairly
easy.
>
>
>Actually not only isn't it easy, it's not possible.
>
only in terms of some b vitamins , and thats only because the soils been
thrown out of whack. (no animals fertilizing the veggie soil for the most
part, hence no b12 in the soil)

otherwise, a vegetarian diet is probably more healthy than any diet that
includes animal protein.

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL


" I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have
weapons
of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
Ari Fleischer
7/9/2003

June Oshiro > wrote:

> Elana Kehoe wrote:
>
> > We're not kosher,
>
> Ah, you talked latkes and then dairy free, so I jumped to a different
> (and wrong!) conclusion.

Hey, no problem. I probably would have too :-)

> Thanks for the info. I was just curious.

Sure :-). Food allergies are the pits.
--
It's Tis Herself

In article >, "Saerah" >
writes:

>>>getting all the nutrients needed while dairy free or meat free is fairly
>easy.
>>
>>
>>Actually not only isn't it easy, it's not possible.
>>
>only in terms of some b vitamins , and thats only because the soils been
>thrown out of whack. (no animals fertilizing the veggie soil for the most
>part, hence no b12 in the soil)

Bullshit.

>otherwise, a vegetarian diet is probably more healthy than any diet that
>includes animal protein.

What kind of gobbledygook are you spewing... no vegetarian diet can supply all
necessary amino acids, and besides, *ALL* so-called vegetarians LIE! Idiot.


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PENMART01 wrote in message >...
>In article >, "Saerah" >
>writes:
>
>>>>getting all the nutrients needed while dairy free or meat free is fairly
>>easy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually not only isn't it easy, it's not possible.
>>>
>>only in terms of some b vitamins , and thats only because the soils been
>>thrown out of whack. (no animals fertilizing the veggie soil for the most
>>part, hence no b12 in the soil)
>
>Bullshit.

exactly

>>otherwise, a vegetarian diet is probably more healthy than any diet that
>>includes animal protein.
>
>What kind of gobbledygook are you spewing... no vegetarian diet can supply
all
>necessary amino acids, and besides, *ALL* so-called vegetarians LIE!
Idiot.

well, im not a vegetarian, for one. however, im not a big meat-eater either
and often go for weeks without eating any dead-animal products (im a sucker
for good cheese, however :>)

though it is true that most non-animal foods *by themselves* do not contain
a complete range of the necessary amino acids (meaning non-synthesised by
the human body from "essential" amino acids ingested) required for proper
muscle growth , brain development etc., but with this in mind, and a varied
diet, one can certainly get all the balanced proteins they need without
consuming animal products. the high amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol
in animal products keep them from being ideal foods, particularly in the
amounts that we, as a society, ingest them.
in addition, the protein needs of adult humans really arent that high,
except perhaps if one is trying to build muscle (or a baby). you dont know
what the hell you are talking about.
now go have yourself a nice bowl of quinoa tabbouli

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL


" I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have
weapons
of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
Ari Fleischer
7/9/2003

Saerah wrote in message >...
>
>PENMART01 wrote in message
>...
>>In article >, "Saerah" >
>>writes:
>>
>>>>>getting all the nutrients needed while dairy free or meat free is
fairly
>>>easy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually not only isn't it easy, it's not possible.
>>>>
>>>only in terms of some b vitamins , and thats only because the soils been
>>>thrown out of whack. (no animals fertilizing the veggie soil for the most
>>>part, hence no b12 in the soil)
>>
>>Bullshit.
>
> exactly
>
>>>otherwise, a vegetarian diet is probably more healthy than any diet that
>>>includes animal protein.
>>
>>What kind of gobbledygook are you spewing... no vegetarian diet can supply
>all
>>necessary amino acids, and besides, *ALL* so-called vegetarians LIE!
>Idiot.
>
>well, im not a vegetarian, for one. however, im not a big meat-eater either
>and often go for weeks without eating any dead-animal products (im a sucker
>for good cheese, however :>)
>
>though it is true that most non-animal foods *by themselves* do not contain
>a complete range of the necessary amino acids (meaning non-synthesised by
>the human body from "essential" amino acids ingested) required for proper
>muscle growth , brain development etc., but with this in mind, and a varied
>diet, one can certainly get all the balanced proteins they need without
>consuming animal products. the high amounts of saturated fat and
cholesterol
>in animal products keep them from being ideal foods, particularly in the
>amounts that we, as a society, ingest them.
>in addition, the protein needs of adult humans really arent that high,
>except perhaps if one is trying to build muscle (or a baby). you dont know
>what the hell you are talking about.
>now go have yourself a nice bowl of quinoa tabbouli
>
>--

i suppose your lack of response means that you cant come up with a retort to
good science

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL


" I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have
weapons
of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
Ari Fleischer
7/9/2003

"Elana Kehoe" > wrote in message
...
> Charles Gifford > wrote:
>
> > That's alright. My favorite pub in Dublin is Kehoe's. Nice to see the
name.
>
> The one on Sth. Anne St? Was my husband's great-uncle's place :-)
> --
> It's Tis Herself

Cool! Wish I was there now. <sigh>

Charlie

Charles Gifford > wrote:

> "Elana Kehoe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Charles Gifford > wrote:
> >
> > > That's alright. My favorite pub in Dublin is Kehoe's. Nice to see the
> name.
> >
> > The one on Sth. Anne St? Was my husband's great-uncle's place :-)
> > --
> > It's Tis Herself
>
> Cool! Wish I was there now. <sigh>

Nah...it's freaking cold and windy, and there's no way I'd be on Grafton
St over the next few days :-). Next time I'm in, I'll have one for you
:-).
--
It's Tis Herself

"Elana Kehoe" > wrote in message
...
> Charles Gifford > wrote:
>
> > "Elana Kehoe" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Charles Gifford > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's alright. My favorite pub in Dublin is Kehoe's. Nice to see
the
> > name.
> > >
> > > The one on Sth. Anne St? Was my husband's great-uncle's place :-)
> > > --
> > > It's Tis Herself
> >
> > Cool! Wish I was there now. <sigh>
>
> Nah...it's freaking cold and windy, and there's no way I'd be on Grafton
> St over the next few days :-). Next time I'm in, I'll have one for you
> :-).
> --
> It's Tis Herself

Thanks! The last time I was in Dublin for Christmas the weather was very
nice. I always stay at the Shelbourne and Kehoe's is close by. Nice and
quiet most of the time, just how I like it. A favorite book store nearby
too.

Charlie

OB FOOD:

BAKED MARMALADE PUDDING



Recipe by: Theodora FitzGibbon
Source: Irish Times, date unknown


7 tbs. marmalade
100g (4 oz) unsalted butter
100g (4 oz) castor sugar
2 eggs, whites and yolks separated
100g (4 oz) plain white flour
pinch freshly ground nutmeg
grated rind of half an orange
small diamonds of orange and lemon peel

Pre-heat oven to 190C (375F, gas 5). Grease an ovenproof dish or four small
individual ones. Cover the bottom of the dish(es) with four tablespoons of
the marmalade. Cream the butter and sugar until light and fluffy. Beat the
yolks of the eggs into the creamed mixture with a little of the flour and
fold the remainder of the flour, grated nutmeg, orange zest and the
remainder of the marmalade. Whisk the egg whites until stiff and fold into
the mixture. Put the mixture into the dish(es) and bake on the centre shelf
of the oven at the pre-set heat for about 40 minutes. Remove from the oven
and garnish with the little diamonds of orange and lemon peel. This makes a
pudding which is equally good hot or cold.