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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a
pine tree. I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other use for it. There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear on the pot it came with. TIA, Richard -- "..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti..." Hannibal "The Cannibal" Silence Of The Lambs 1991 |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
>I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some
>resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. > >I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear >on the pot it came with. If the plant is alive and needs watering, it's doubtful that anything was added to it. Any kind of resin or chemical they treated it with would kill the plant. The website gives very specific information regarding the care of the plant. Anne AAC/AAF/AFBV62.0844.AZ http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
Richard Periut > wrote:
>I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a >pine tree. > >I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention >if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other >use for it. > >There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. > >I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some >resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. > >I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear >on the pot it came with. > >TIA, > >Richard Certainly it is edible. But leave it a few weeks in case it was sprayed with insecticide before being sold to you. Dennis |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
Dennis G. wrote:
> Richard Periut > wrote: > > >>I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a >>pine tree. >> >>I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention >>if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other >>use for it. >> >>There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. >> >>I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some >>resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. >> >>I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear >>on the pot it came with. >> >>TIA, >> >>Richard > > > Certainly it is edible. But leave it a few weeks in case it was sprayed with > insecticide before being sold to you. > > Dennis Thanks all for your comments. It would make sense to wait a couple of weeks, since federal laws mandate that pesticides be substances that become degradable over a short period of time. Richard -- "..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti..." Hannibal "The Cannibal" Silence Of The Lambs 1991 |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
Richard Periut > wrote in message >...
> I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a > pine tree. > > I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention > if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other > use for it. > > There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. > > I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some > resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. > > I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear > on the pot it came with. > > TIA, > > Richard Any true rosemary is edible, so long as the nursery didn't do something like treat it with a systemic insecticide. Another remote possibility is that it is a non-rosemary such as Westringia, which would likewise be not edible. Different rosemary varieties have greater or lesser culinary quality: I find the common dwarf rosemary to have little flavor (and bad at that), but the tall "Tuscan Blue" to be much more aromatic and satisfactory. -- Chris Green |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
"Christopher Green" > wrote in message m... > Richard Periut > wrote in message >... > > I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a > > pine tree. > > > > I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention > > if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other > > use for it. > > > > There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. > > > > I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some > > resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. > > > > I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear > > on the pot it came with. > > > > TIA, > > > > Richard > > Any true rosemary is edible, so long as the nursery didn't do > something like treat it with a systemic insecticide. Another remote > possibility is that it is a non-rosemary such as Westringia, which > would likewise be not edible. > > Different rosemary varieties have greater or lesser culinary quality: > I find the common dwarf rosemary to have little flavor (and bad at > that), but the tall "Tuscan Blue" to be much more aromatic and > satisfactory. > > -- > Chris Green There are variations of Rosemary that aren't edible as well. I've got a pine-scented rosemary that's not edible. As far as whether a plant should be clearly labeled as not edible -- well, most plants aren't labeled as to whether they're edible or not. |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
D.Currie wrote:
> "Christopher Green" > wrote in message > m... > >>Richard Periut > wrote in message > > >>> >>>Richard >> >>Any true rosemary is edible, so long as the nursery didn't do >>something like treat it with a systemic insecticide. Another remote >>possibility is that it is a non-rosemary such as Westringia, which >>would likewise be not edible. >> >>Different rosemary varieties have greater or lesser culinary quality: >>I find the common dwarf rosemary to have little flavor (and bad at >>that), but the tall "Tuscan Blue" to be much more aromatic and >>satisfactory. >> >>-- >>Chris Green > > > There are variations of Rosemary that aren't edible as well. I've got a > pine-scented rosemary that's not edible. As far as whether a plant should be > clearly labeled as not edible -- well, most plants aren't labeled as to > whether they're edible or not. > > i never heard of non edible rosmary. do you have more information about this? thank you, anna maria www.annamariavolpi.com |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
"Richard Periut" > wrote in message ... > Dennis G. wrote: > > Richard Periut > wrote: > > > > > >>I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a > >>pine tree. > >> > >>I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention > >>if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other > >>use for it. > >> > >>There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. > >> > >>I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some > >>resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. > >> > >>I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear > >>on the pot it came with. > >> > >>TIA, > >> > >>Richard They say the Dipel is the insecticide to use for problems, so I guess you can assume that your plant has been treated with that. And they say that although rosemary has been a culinary herb for centuries, consumption of any raw plant is not recommended? I'd say they are protecting their legal backsides. Rosemary that is fresh to the indoors is extremely aromatic, so I doubt that your rosemary has been treated in any way to increase its scent. However, rosemary can be extremely tricky to keep indoors over winter. It easily gets fungus that cause black spots on old growth and a furry white fungus on tender new growth. You've got to have the light, soil and watering conditions just right indoors. I succeeded with one plant for many years until it got so big I couldn't lift it into the tub to water it any longer. Since then I have not had success. Good luck. Janet |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Richard Periut" > wrote in message > ... > >>Dennis G. wrote: >> >>>Richard Periut > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have purchased a decorative rosemary plant, trimmed in the form of a >>>>pine tree. >>>> >>>>I went to their site http://www.pinerytree.com/ to see if they mention >>>>if it's edible, but they make no mention. They do mention every other >>>>use for it. >>>> >>>>There is no e-mail or contact number in the web site. >>>> >>>>I know it's rosemary for sure, but I don't know if they added some >>>>resin/chemical for decorative and aromatic qualities. >>>> >>>>I would also think that if it were not edible, it should be very clear >>>>on the pot it came with. >>>> >>>>TIA, >>>> >>>>Richard >>> > They say the Dipel is the insecticide to use for problems, so I guess you > can assume that your plant has been treated with that. And they say that > although rosemary has been a culinary herb for centuries, consumption of any > raw plant is not recommended? I'd say they are protecting their legal > backsides. Rosemary that is fresh to the indoors is extremely aromatic, so > I doubt that your rosemary has been treated in any way to increase its > scent. However, rosemary can be extremely tricky to keep indoors over > winter. It easily gets fungus that cause black spots on old growth and a > furry white fungus on tender new growth. You've got to have the light, soil > and watering conditions just right indoors. I succeeded with one plant for > many years until it got so big I couldn't lift it into the tub to water it > any longer. Since then I have not had success. Good luck. > Janet > > Thanks all for your comments. When I meant "not edible" I meant not to be used for cooking because it has possibly been treated with some chemical. Well, I'm going to use it in a week to roast a chicken. I'll mince up some rosemary and with some lemon zest, s&p, oregano and some thyme and butter, and I'll stuff it under the skin. I guess if you never hear from me again, you know what happened ; ) Richard -- "..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti..." Hannibal "The Cannibal" Silence Of The Lambs 1991 |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
"anna maria" > wrote in message ... > D.Currie wrote: > > "Christopher Green" > wrote in message > > m... > > > >>Richard Periut > wrote in message > > > > > >>> > >>>Richard > >> > >>Any true rosemary is edible, so long as the nursery didn't do > >>something like treat it with a systemic insecticide. Another remote > >>possibility is that it is a non-rosemary such as Westringia, which > >>would likewise be not edible. > >> > >>Different rosemary varieties have greater or lesser culinary quality: > >>I find the common dwarf rosemary to have little flavor (and bad at > >>that), but the tall "Tuscan Blue" to be much more aromatic and > >>satisfactory. > >> > >>-- > >>Chris Green > > > > > > There are variations of Rosemary that aren't edible as well. I've got a > > pine-scented rosemary that's not edible. As far as whether a plant should be > > clearly labeled as not edible -- well, most plants aren't labeled as to > > whether they're edible or not. > > > > > > i never heard of non edible rosmary. do you have more information about > this? > thank you, anna maria > > > www.annamariavolpi.com > I bought it at a nursery that had all sorts of interesting plant variations, including at least a half-dozen types of rosemary. Different scents, different leaf variations. This one in particular looks like a regular rosemary plant, but has a very strong pine scent. It smells more like pine than pine does, and gives off the scent very easily. No need to crush or mangle the leaves, you just brush against it, and you get a good whiff. Just watering it, and I smell the pine. The label on it said that it wasn't for eating but was great for sachets and potpourri. I don't know that it's actually poisonous, but it probably doesn't taste very good. They had quite a few plants that you'd normally think of as culinary or medicinal plants that were odd variations that were intended to be used for the scents only. I don't know the botanical name of my plant, but I know it was in the rosemary family. Maybe if they have them again next year, I'll get more information. If I go back there again, that is. Last spring it got a bit costly with all the interesting things I found.... Donna |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
rosemary
(Rosmarinus officinalis), small perennial evergreen shrub of the mint family (Laminaceae, or Labiatae) whose leaves are used to flavour foods. Rosemary leaves have a tealike fragrance and a pungent, slightly bitter taste. They are generally used sparingly, dried or fresh, to season foods, particularly lamb, duck, chicken, sausages, seafood, stuffings, stews, soups, potatoes, tomatoes, turnips, other vegetables, and beverages. Whole sprigs are removed before food is served because of their powerful taste. In ancient times rosemary was believed to strengthen the memory; in literature and folklore it is an emblem of remembrance and fidelity. Rosemary is slightly stimulating; in traditional medicine it was a popular aromatic constituent of tonics and liniments. Today, its fragrant oil is an ingredient in numerous toiletry products and in vermouth. Native to the Mediterranean region, it has been naturalized throughout Europe and temperate America and is widely grown in gardens in the warmer parts of the U.S. and in Great Britain, where an old garden legend reads where rosemary thrives the mistress is master. The rosemary bush has a main stem usually around 3 feet (1 metre) but sometimes up to 7 ft tall, and linear leaves about 0.4 inch (1 centimetre) long resembling curved pine needles, dark green and shiny above, white beneath, and with margins rolled back onto the under face. The flowers are bluish, in small axillary clusters. Bees are particularly fond of rosemary. The essential oil content is from 0.3 to 2 percent, and it is obtained by distillation. Its principal component is borneol. Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service. <http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=65754> [Accessed December 17, 2003]. ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
"D.Currie" > wrote in message ... > I bought it at a nursery that had all sorts of interesting plant variations, > including at least a half-dozen types of rosemary. Different scents, > different leaf variations. This one in particular looks like a regular > rosemary plant, but has a very strong pine scent. It smells more like pine > than pine does, and gives off the scent very easily. No need to crush or > mangle the leaves, you just brush against it, and you get a good whiff. Just > watering it, and I smell the pine. > > The label on it said that it wasn't for eating but was great for sachets and > potpourri. I don't know that it's actually poisonous, but it probably > doesn't taste very good. They had quite a few plants that you'd normally > think of as culinary or medicinal plants that were odd variations that were > intended to be used for the scents only. > > I don't know the botanical name of my plant, but I know it was in the > rosemary family. Maybe if they have them again next year, I'll get more > information. If I go back there again, that is. Last spring it got a bit > costly with all the interesting things I found.... > > Donna While I have never heard of a rosemary that is not edible, I do know that various edible varieties are described in catalogs as being more or less resinous(piney). Some of the rosemary plants that I have and eat from are almost a sticky to the touch as pine. They have a very piney smell. Good Luck Janet |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message ... > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message > ... > > I bought it at a nursery that had all sorts of interesting plant > variations, > > including at least a half-dozen types of rosemary. Different scents, > > different leaf variations. This one in particular looks like a regular > > rosemary plant, but has a very strong pine scent. It smells more like pine > > than pine does, and gives off the scent very easily. No need to crush or > > mangle the leaves, you just brush against it, and you get a good whiff. > Just > > watering it, and I smell the pine. > > > > The label on it said that it wasn't for eating but was great for sachets > and > > potpourri. I don't know that it's actually poisonous, but it probably > > doesn't taste very good. They had quite a few plants that you'd normally > > think of as culinary or medicinal plants that were odd variations that > were > > intended to be used for the scents only. > > > > I don't know the botanical name of my plant, but I know it was in the > > rosemary family. Maybe if they have them again next year, I'll get more > > information. If I go back there again, that is. Last spring it got a bit > > costly with all the interesting things I found.... > > > > Donna > While I have never heard of a rosemary that is not edible, I do know that > various edible varieties are described in catalogs as being more or less > resinous(piney). Some of the rosemary plants that I have and eat from are > almost a sticky to the touch as pine. They have a very piney smell. > Good Luck > Janet > Well, I don't think I'll start gnawing on this particular plant any time soon. Next year if they have them again, maybe I'll take a closer look at the details. |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
I recently purchased a new keyboard, which, I kid you not, came with a warning
label. Something about the risk of wrist injury. My point is, if something isn't 100% idiot-proof, the government will probably force the manufacturer to put a warning label on it. So I would think that if rosemary were for some reason inedible, you'd be given a warning. You're smart to take precautions anyway - I would have assumed it was fine to eat, which is probably why they put warning labels on keyboards -Jen Half the people you know are below average. -Steven Wright |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
hahabogus > wrote:
>Don't eat your keyboard... And don't try to touch type on a rosemary plant. They're prickly. My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net. |
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Decorative Rosemary; edible?
although it's sadly now unrelated to the original topic, I must aver that I did
NOT write this (see below), for the record. I don't wanna get killfiled. -jen >You're >>smart >>to take precautions anyway - I would have assumed it was fine to eat, which >>is probably why they put warning labels on Italian wimmen's pussys > Half the people you know are below average. -Steven Wright |
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