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Bob Pastorio 27-11-2003 02:21 PM

Carbs, again
 
http://tinyurl.com/ws8b

Pastorio


John Gaughan 28-11-2003 01:52 AM

Carbs, again
 
Bob Pastorio wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/ws8b


The real question is this -- can I eat more than two pounds of carbs per
day? :-)

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/



Bob Pastorio 28-11-2003 08:57 AM

Carbs, again
 
John Gaughan wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ws8b

>
> The real question is this -- can I eat more than two pounds of carbs per
> day? :-)


<LOL>

Dr. Andrew B. Chung has asserted that if you eat fat, it won't count
if you don't eat carbs with it. Unfortunately, it's the same Dr. Chung
that says *everybody* can get along on 2 pounds of food per day no
matter how big you are or what you do.

I don't think Chung likes you, John. Called you a supporter. I didn't
realize you were athletic. <g>

Pastorio


Frogleg 28-11-2003 12:04 PM

Carbs, again
 
>Bob Pastorio wrote:

>> http://tinyurl.com/ws8b


"The Masai in Africa, all they eat is raw beef and drink raw beef
blood and drink milk," says reproductive endocrinologist Gil
Wilshire."

This is the kind of "science" (quotes indicating sarcasm) that drives
me nuts. The Masai *are* cattle herders, and they *do* drink the
blood. With a brief Google, I turned up much anecdotal material with
Belive It Or Not flavors, -- "The traditional Masai diet consists
of six foods:meat, milk, animal blood, animal fat, tree bark, and
honey." It's surely a Fun Fact to *know* that these people live on
such a peculiar diet, and much more interesting than that they raise
cattle, drink the blood, eat the meat, make cheese in *addition* to
less ununsual foods. (I don't know. I'm just guessing that most humans
make use of whatever foodstuffs are available.) Much like "the Inuits
have 400 words for 'snow'."

John Gaughan 28-11-2003 06:19 PM

Carbs, again
 
Bob Pastorio wrote:
> I don't think Chung likes you, John.


Good. I am still thinking of a way to screw with him. I am in an
antagonistic mood right now. He dodges answers and gives nothing but
fluff when he does answer, so I am very short on ammunition.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/



Bob Pastorio 28-11-2003 07:09 PM

Carbs, again
 
John Gaughan wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>> I don't think Chung likes you, John.

>
> Good. I am still thinking of a way to screw with him. I am in an
> antagonistic mood right now. He dodges answers and gives nothing but
> fluff when he does answer, so I am very short on ammunition.


Google him and you'll have all the ammo you could possibly need for
years to come. And his evasions are good places to poke holes in his
astonishing positions on things.

Check out his web site. You'll love his viewpoints on many things.
Look over his "testimonials" and see if you would have put them on
your web site. Check out his "stalkers" page.

Check out his posts on the NG called sci.med.cardiology. He usually
posts half a dozen howlers a day. As my neighbors say, "Guy ain't right."

Pastorio


Tony Lew 28-11-2003 10:54 PM

Carbs, again
 
Frogleg > wrote in message >. ..
> >Bob Pastorio wrote:

>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/ws8b

>
> "The Masai in Africa, all they eat is raw beef and drink raw beef
> blood and drink milk," says reproductive endocrinologist Gil
> Wilshire."
>
> This is the kind of "science" (quotes indicating sarcasm) that drives
> me nuts. The Masai *are* cattle herders, and they *do* drink the
> blood. With a brief Google, I turned up much anecdotal material with
> Belive It Or Not flavors, -- "The traditional Masai diet consists
> of six foods:meat, milk, animal blood, animal fat, tree bark, and
> honey." It's surely a Fun Fact to *know* that these people live on
> such a peculiar diet, and much more interesting than that they raise
> cattle, drink the blood, eat the meat, make cheese in *addition* to
> less ununsual foods. (I don't know. I'm just guessing that most humans
> make use of whatever foodstuffs are available.) Much like "the Inuits
> have 400 words for 'snow'."


No worse than a lot of the "politically correct" science we see a lot
of. How many times have I read, "The Japanese eat little fat and
Japanese women have less breast cancer than American women, who eat a
lot more fat". Ergo, a high-fat diet caused breast cancer. Duh, does that
mean that's the ONLY difference in the diets and therefore must be the
cause?

John Gaughan 29-11-2003 06:40 PM

Carbs, again
 
Tony Lew wrote:
> Duh, does that mean that's the ONLY difference in the diets and
> therefore must be the cause?


Or, more succinctly, "correlation does not imply causation."

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/



Frogleg 29-11-2003 08:16 PM

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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:40:44 -0600, John Gaughan
> wrote:

>Tony Lew wrote:
>> Duh, does that mean that's the ONLY difference in the diets and
>> therefore must be the cause?

>
>Or, more succinctly, "correlation does not imply causation."


Perhaps he mean to expose post hoc ergo propter hoc. :-)


Bob Pastorio 30-11-2003 03:03 AM

Carbs, again
 
Frogleg wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:40:44 -0600, John Gaughan
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Tony Lew wrote:
>>
>>>Duh, does that mean that's the ONLY difference in the diets and
>>>therefore must be the cause?

>>
>>Or, more succinctly, "correlation does not imply causation."

>
>
> Perhaps he mean to expose post hoc ergo propter hoc. :-)


Expose his propter hoc right here in front of everybody? Well, habeas
corpus to him.

Pastorio


blake murphy 02-12-2003 08:05 PM

Carbs, again
 
On 28 Nov 2003 14:54:45 -0800, (Tony Lew)
wrote:


>
> No worse than a lot of the "politically correct" science we see a lot
>of. How many times have I read, "The Japanese eat little fat and
>Japanese women have less breast cancer than American women, who eat a
>lot more fat". Ergo, a high-fat diet caused breast cancer. Duh, does that
>mean that's the ONLY difference in the diets and therefore must be the
>cause?


i thought that, statistically, speaking english is a high-risk factor.

your pal,
blake


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