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Nancy2 > wrote:
>...because Omelet wanted to know if anyone thought having a cat in a >doctor's office or therapist's office was a good idea - and I said no >thanks to the cat hair, and it degenerated (or migrated, depending on >your view) from around there somewhere. LOL. Also, cats tranmist toxoplasmosis, to which immune-sensitive persons are vulnerable. Steve |
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Nancy2 wrote:
> On Oct 5, 2:42 pm, brooklyn1 > wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >>> On Oct 5, 1:36 pm, Omelet > wrote: >>>> Just curious about the percentage of folks that would love or hate cats >>>> at the Doctors or therapists offices... >>>> Me? I'd love it. >>>> -- >>>> Peace! Om >>>> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." >>>> --Steve Rothstein >>>> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/home?tab=mq> >>>> >>>> Subscribe: >>> All the vets' offices seem to have cats - mostly for blood donor >>> purposes, but still .... >> I've never been to a Vet that had cats or any other critters running >> loose and I've been to many Vet's offices, all are in back properly >> secured in the kennel area.... a few have had aquariums in their >> waiting room, but so does my Primary care doctor. >> >>> They're hardly sterile - >> I wouldn't expect sterile, except in the ER. >> >>> any docs' waiting rooms have carpet - I >>> wouldn't want cat hair with my appointment, thanks. >> I have seen some grundgy Vet's offices but I've seen just as grundgy >> people doctor offices.... but that's why we have feet. My current >> Vet's office is scrupulously clean, and no animal smells at all... I >> only wish people doctors kept such a tidy facility.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, Shel, we're different out here in flyover country. I've used > three different vets for pets over the years, and all of them had > "counter cats" -office pets that roamed free around the offices. > > N. And just because someone has not experienced it, does not make them right. Grungy is only a state of mind for the perceiver. I also know people that say they can't stand cats in their house or others as they can't stand the smell. That is the perspective of a small mind, or a small circle of acquaintances. I have two cat's (used to be three until recently), and I have one dog (use to be two until recently). If there are any smells in my house pet related, it was near the dog beds (he has two, one upstairs, and one down), and that was only because I hadn't gotten around to washing them recently. You would not know I have cats unless you saw them. I have two litter boxes I clean daily, and pretty much dump for new litter at least weekly. I find that having a few pets around a good thing. They can be aggravating, but usually they are less aggravating than a spouse would be. And yes, I actually have a spouse also. Bob |
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Nancy2 wrote:
> Well, Shel, we're different out here in flyover country. I've used > three different vets for pets over the years, and all of them had > "counter cats" -office pets that roamed free around the offices. Over the years I have taken my dogs to at least 6 different vets in the area. Not one "counter cat". |
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"Nancy2" > wrote in message ... > I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a > medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... perhaps it was an > assisted care senior living community, some permit pets in one's own > unit. Many people are deathly afraid of animals, especially > exacerbated when folks are elderly, frail, ill. Nope, I don't > believe that tale... I've visited many nursing homes, none permitted > animals... many nursing homes don't permit minor children.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Therapy pets and other pets are very, very common in nursing homes. The therapy animals are under the control of their handlers and are welcome visitors to whoever wants to interact with them. Others have free run of the place. There was a nursing home featured on a news program last year that had a resident cat or dog (I forget which) that always knew when someone was close to dying, and the staff would find it curled up on the bed of that person. N. He is a cat named Oscar: great story, isn't it. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n3097899.shtml pavane |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote: > > >> Well, Shel, we're different out here in flyover country. I've used >> three different vets for pets over the years, and all of them had >> "counter cats" -office pets that roamed free around the offices. > > > Over the years I have taken my dogs to at least 6 different vets in the > area. Not one "counter cat". And two of the four vets I've used in the last twenty years had them. Your point was, other than pointing out your vets did not have office pets? That only says your experience did not include the office pets. Some of us had/have experience that some do. I think many of us do not have issue with having office pets in a vet's office. We do if it's a regular human doctor's office. <sigh> Bob |
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On 2009-10-06, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> people that say they can't stand cats in their house or others as they > can't stand the smell. That is the perspective of a small mind.... Nonsense. It's the perspective of someone who doesn't want cats. I had cats every day of my life for 40 yrs. Now I have none. I don't want cats, I don't want the hassle of cats, I don't want the smell of cats, and I don't want the shedded hair of cats. It's not that I hate cats or have somehow learned to dislike cats, its just I don't want one and I'm not wild about ppl with a house full of 'em. I do dislike feral cats and would shoot 'em in a heartbeat if there were any around. Fortunately, there is not. Not because I dislike them, but I consider feral cats vermin which spread disease and eat birds. I also don't like cockroaches for much the same reason. nb |
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On 2009-10-06, Dave Smith > wrote:
> area. Not one "counter cat". Our vet has one. They also have an office dog. No biggie. nb |
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On 2009-10-06, pavane > wrote:
>> I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a >> medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... Yes, they do. When my mom was in a nursing/phys-rehab home, I was allowed to bring her dog along to visit. The other patients loved her ...the dog.... Mom was Hell on wheels!. I can see the why they would allow dogs. Patients who were totally unsresponsive to ppl suddenly came alive when Bubbles (Mom's dog) came into the facility. Everyone wanted to pet her. Of course, the dog had to have proof of all the required shots and vaccines and a current clean bill of health from the vet. There are some pet services that take dogs to medical facilities solely for the purpose of brightening the spirits of patients. nb |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-10-06, Bob Muncie > wrote: > >> people that say they can't stand cats in their house or others as they >> can't stand the smell. That is the perspective of a small mind.... > > Nonsense. It's the perspective of someone who doesn't want cats. > > I had cats every day of my life for 40 yrs. Now I have none. I don't > want cats, I don't want the hassle of cats, I don't want the smell of > cats, and I don't want the shedded hair of cats. It's not that I hate > cats or have somehow learned to dislike cats, its just I don't want > one and I'm not wild about ppl with a house full of 'em. > > I do dislike feral cats and would shoot 'em in a heartbeat if there > were any around. Fortunately, there is not. Not because I dislike > them, but I consider feral cats vermin which spread disease and eat > birds. I also don't like cockroaches for much the same reason. > > nb > If it were nonsense, and you were local enough, I would have you invite someone of your choice to visit me, and ask them what pets I have. Honestly,I am good with that. I actually had a Grandma that obviously let things go, and when walking into her home, you *knew* she had cats. I'm just saying you could not think the same walking into my home. See a loose hair? Quite possible, just like you might see one of mine. Smell the cats? Not very likely. Feral cats are an entirely different topic. I'm surprised you raised them as part of the same conversation. I have scars from one I picked up that was about six inches long... I was young, stupid, and defenseless (did not have leather gloves on). I also dislike cock roaches, as well as loose mice in the house. Ants are also something I will deal with in a pretty negative way. Be an Earwigg (silver fish for others)? I will chase your ass down, and kill you no matter the cost... Bob |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-10-06, Dave Smith > wrote: > >> area. Not one "counter cat". > > Our vet has one. They also have an office dog. No biggie. > > nb And you confirm the same reason I respect you... And yet was not so confirming on the other post :-) At least on this one we didn't even have a communication issue :-) Bob |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-10-06, Dave Smith > wrote: > >> area. Not one "counter cat". > > Our vet has one. They also have an office dog. No biggie. I don't think it is a big deal either. I just haven't ever seen it in more than 40 years of taking dogs to vets. |
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On 2009-10-06, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> Feral cats are an entirely different topic. I'm surprised you raised > them as part of the same conversation. No, they are not. Cats are hunting creatures. What you think is so cute in a kitten chasing a stuffed mouse is the very instict that allows any cat to become feral almost overnight. Even tame house cats still hunt and put mice and birds on your doorstep. A very fascinating show about cats was on one of the education channels and showed how tame house cats could revert to wild instincts in a heartbeat, even if only temporarily. It showed a household male cat killing all the babies recently born to a female of the same household. This is typical of big cats in the wild. One of the reasons cats are so aloof towards us and act like they don't really need or appreciate us is cuz... THEY DON'T! duh nb |
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"notbob" > wrote in message ... | On 2009-10-06, pavane > wrote: | | >> I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a | >> medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... | | Yes, they do. | | When my mom was in a nursing/phys-rehab home, I was allowed to bring | her dog along to visit. The other patients loved her ...the | dog.... Mom was Hell on wheels!. I can see the why they would allow | dogs. Patients who were totally unsresponsive to ppl suddenly came | alive when Bubbles (Mom's dog) came into the facility. Everyone | wanted to pet her. Of course, the dog had to have proof of all the | required shots and vaccines and a current clean bill of health from | the vet. There are some pet services that take dogs to medical | facilities solely for the purpose of brightening the spirits of | patients. | | nb Careful...you are quoting Sheldumb in the first paragraph, not pavane. pavane |
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"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message ... > notbob wrote: >> On 2009-10-06, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>> area. Not one "counter cat". >> >> Our vet has one. They also have an office dog. No biggie. >> >> nb > > And you confirm the same reason I respect you... And yet was not so > confirming on the other post :-) > > At least on this one we didn't even have a communication issue :-) > There is not a reason in this world, or this post, that *I* see for "respecting" this cat-shooting imbecile. FFS, Bob. Muncie. |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-10-06, Bob Muncie > wrote: > >> Feral cats are an entirely different topic. I'm surprised you raised >> them as part of the same conversation. > > No, they are not. Cats are hunting creatures. What you think is so > cute in a kitten chasing a stuffed mouse is the very instict that > allows any cat to become feral almost overnight. Even tame house cats > still hunt and put mice and birds on your doorstep. > > A very fascinating show about cats was on one of the education > channels and showed how tame house cats could revert to wild instincts > in a heartbeat, even if only temporarily. It showed a household male > cat killing all the babies recently born to a female of the same > household. This is typical of big cats in the wild. > > One of the reasons cats are so aloof towards us and act like they don't > really need or appreciate us is cuz... THEY DON'T! duh > > nb \ nb - Are you NOT having a good day? I pointed out feral cats require leather gloves to handle properly. I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing in common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy for that affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only my 50 years of experience. I am also not knocking you for your experience. Just expressing mine. Bob |
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On 2009-10-06, cybercat > wrote:
> There is not a reason in this world, or this post, that *I* see for > "respecting" this cat-shooting imbecile. FFS, Bob. Muncie. I've never shot a cat in my life, you psychotic moron. That's not to say I wouldn't. Feral cats are a freakin plague. They are actually negatively impacting the song bird populations in some areas of the US, they not being a native species. I've also seen how they puke up their hairballs all over the place with squirrel eyeballs and teeth protruding. Don't tell me that's benign. nb |
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cybercat wrote:
> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message > ... >> notbob wrote: >>> On 2009-10-06, Dave Smith > wrote: >>> >>>> area. Not one "counter cat". >>> Our vet has one. They also have an office dog. No biggie. >>> >>> nb >> And you confirm the same reason I respect you... And yet was not so >> confirming on the other post :-) >> >> At least on this one we didn't even have a communication issue :-) >> > > There is not a reason in this world, or this post, that *I* see for > "respecting" this cat-shooting imbecile. FFS, Bob. Muncie. > > Hey You!! Just because you are a cybercat, does not mean you should try and sway the rest of us into trusting felines :-) It's pretty obvious that you are biased. OTOH, I'll forgive you since you have a purrrfectly good excuse. Bob But I will keep your thoughts in mind ;-) |
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Bob Muncie wrote:
> I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even > Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing in > common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy for > that affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only my 50 > years of experience. I am also not knocking you for your experience. > Just expressing mine. I have been tempted to bring home a cat from the stable where I do volunteer therapy work. The cat showed up there a few months ago and it just won't leave. It is a friendly little critter, and demands a lot of attention. The thing is that as much as I appreciate cats as mousing implements, I am more of a dog person. I have had lots of cats in the past, fed them, let them catch mice for me, even let them follow is n walks in the woods. I am not sure that I can handle a cat that needs so much attention. We have to stick it in a cage during therapy sessions because it annoys everyone. |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
... > Jean B. wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote: > >>> OH! Sure! Bring her on up, the patients will love it! Well, she >>> was the celebrity of the day at that place, many of the patients just >>> wanted to pet her and tell me about their cats. It was very sweet >>> but sad at the same time. I wish they could have some pets >>> available to the patients. > >> Yes, that's the thing. Cats, dogs, etc. can be really >> beneficial--but then what about the allergies etc.? > > That's why I said available, like a pet recreation room or whatever > they're called, where people who want to see cats and dogs > can go visit. You'd never get me out of there if I was stuck in a nursing > home. These people were just sitting there dully until > they saw my cat. You can't buy that kind of medicine. > > nancy When I was in the hospital in 2008 I'm pretty sure it was my cat that kept my mother going. No disrespect intended; she had to get up off her duff to feed Persia, to give her fresh water and <gasp> scoop the litter box. Without something like this to motivate her I'm convinced she'd have taken to her bed well before she did. (As it was she pretty much took to her bed right after I was discharged from the hospital.) Having to take care of my cat forced her to walk. It also gave me an excuse to nag her several times a day to make sure she was eating, even if it was just eggs and toast. I think taking care of my cat was good therapy. She had to get up and *do* something. Jill |
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On Oct 6, 3:46*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> > I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a > > medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... perhaps it was an > > assisted care senior living community, some permit pets in one's own > > unit. *Many people are deathly afraid of animals, especially > > exacerbated *when folks are elderly, frail, ill. *Nope, I don't > > believe that tale... I've visited many nursing homes, none permitted > > animals... many nursing homes don't permit minor children.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Therapy pets and other pets are very, very common in nursing homes. > The therapy animals are under the control of their handlers and are > welcome visitors to whoever wants to interact with them. *Others have > free run of the place. There was a nursing home featured on a news > program last year that had a resident cat or dog (I forget which) that > always knew when someone was close to dying, and the staff would find > it curled up on the bed of that person. > > N. My friend who works with the local hospice that dogs often want to be on the bed with a dying owner. Lynn in Fargo |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote: > >> I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even >> Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing >> in common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy >> for that affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only my >> 50 years of experience. I am also not knocking you for your >> experience. Just expressing mine. > > I have been tempted to bring home a cat from the stable where I do > volunteer therapy work. The cat showed up there a few months ago and it > just won't leave. It is a friendly little critter, and demands a lot of > attention. The thing is that as much as I appreciate cats as mousing > implements, I am more of a dog person. I have had lots of cats in the > past, fed them, let them catch mice for me, even let them follow is n > walks in the woods. I am not sure that I can handle a cat that needs so > much attention. We have to stick it in a cage during therapy sessions > because it annoys everyone. Dave - It the prospective makes a difference? I only wanted dogs as pets one I owned my own homes. I am a dog kind of guy. But I am the youngest of three (two sisters), and they always had cats. mAnd wile I never really identified with cats? My wife did, and the three cats we've had were here "babies". Right now, she is not at home. One of the three died for health reasons, right now, one of the two left is standing on my chair arm as I type this. Who would have thought that a Simease cat would have been needy enough for attention to have just pawed me on my shoulder? Anywho, real love comes from unexpected corners... embrace it when it comes, and understand it will not come again. Appreciate what you have, while you have it. The same principal works for people also. Bob |
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brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:41:28 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote: > >> Nancy Young wrote: >>> Jean B. wrote: >>>> Omelet wrote: >>>>> Just curious about the percentage of folks that would love or hate >>>>> cats at the Doctors or therapists offices... >>>>> >>>>> Me? I'd love it. >>>> >>>> I dunno. Many folks are allergic to cats. Some may be afraid of >>>> them. I am generally in favor of pets in various places like >>>> nursing homes, but any such thing would have to be restricted at >>>> certain areas, I think. >>> >>> My mil was in what seemed to be a nursing home, but she was >>> there for rehab. For reasons I don't remember, I had my cat with >>> me (the aforementioned red point, Mugsy). I thought it would >>> cheer up my mil to see her, so I stuck the cat in my coat and tried >>> to smuggle her up to her room. Really, what was I thinking. >>> >>> Of course, I go through the front door, there's the desk and Mugsy >>> pops her head up Hey, where are we going? Caught, red handed. >>> Red point handed. Heh. I said My mil would like to see her. I was >>> astonished at the reaction. >>> >>> OH! Sure! Bring her on up, the patients will love it! Well, she >>> was the celebrity of the day at that place, many of the patients >>> just wanted to pet her and tell me about their cats. It was very >>> sweet >>> but sad at the same time. I wish they could have some pets >>> available to the patients. >> Yes, that's the thing. Cats, dogs, etc. can be really >> beneficial--but then what about the allergies etc.? > > I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a > medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... perhaps it was an > assisted care senior living community, some permit pets in one's own > unit. No, it was not an assisted living facility. It was a hospital with beds and curtains you could draw around the beds. And I have no reason to make up a story like that, if anything it made me look silly, sneaking a cat into a hospital type of place. nancy |
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brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:41:28 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote: > >> Nancy Young wrote: >>> Jean B. wrote: >>>> Omelet wrote: >>>>> Just curious about the percentage of folks that would love or hate >>>>> cats at the Doctors or therapists offices... >>>>> >>>>> Me? I'd love it. >>>> >>>> I dunno. Many folks are allergic to cats. Some may be afraid of >>>> them. I am generally in favor of pets in various places like >>>> nursing homes, but any such thing would have to be restricted at >>>> certain areas, I think. >>> >>> My mil was in what seemed to be a nursing home, but she was >>> there for rehab. For reasons I don't remember, I had my cat with >>> me (the aforementioned red point, Mugsy). I thought it would >>> cheer up my mil to see her, so I stuck the cat in my coat and tried >>> to smuggle her up to her room. Really, what was I thinking. >>> >>> Of course, I go through the front door, there's the desk and Mugsy >>> pops her head up Hey, where are we going? Caught, red handed. >>> Red point handed. Heh. I said My mil would like to see her. I was >>> astonished at the reaction. >>> >>> OH! Sure! Bring her on up, the patients will love it! Well, she >>> was the celebrity of the day at that place, many of the patients >>> just wanted to pet her and tell me about their cats. It was very >>> sweet >>> but sad at the same time. I wish they could have some pets >>> available to the patients. >> Yes, that's the thing. Cats, dogs, etc. can be really >> beneficial--but then what about the allergies etc.? > > I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a > medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... perhaps it was an > assisted care senior living community, some permit pets in one's own > unit. No, it was not an assisted living facility. It was a hospital with beds and curtains you could draw around the beds. And I have no reason to make up a story like that, if anything it made me look silly, sneaking a cat into a hospital type of place. nancy |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:52:38 -0400, "Cheryl" > > wrote: > >>My current vet has an office cat that has run of the waiting room. > > How did we make the jump from a people doctor's office to the > veterinarian? > Because I'm an airhead sometimes. |
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Cheryl wrote:
> > "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:52:38 -0400, "Cheryl" > >> wrote: >> >>> My current vet has an office cat that has run of the waiting room. >> >> How did we make the jump from a people doctor's office to the >> veterinarian? >> > > Because I'm an airhead sometimes. If that is your response, let me add this... You my dear, are a very smart airhead that I respect. Bob |
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Bob Muncie wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: >> Bob Muncie wrote: >> >>> I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even >>> Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing >>> in common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy >>> for that affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only >>> my 50 years of experience. I am also not knocking you for your >>> experience. Just expressing mine. >> >> I have been tempted to bring home a cat from the stable where I do >> volunteer therapy work. The cat showed up there a few months ago and >> it just won't leave. It is a friendly little critter, and demands a >> lot of attention. The thing is that as much as I appreciate cats as >> mousing implements, I am more of a dog person. I have had lots of cats >> in the past, fed them, let them catch mice for me, even let them >> follow is n walks in the woods. I am not sure that I can handle a cat >> that needs so much attention. We have to stick it in a cage during >> therapy sessions because it annoys everyone. > > Dave - It the prospective makes a difference? > > I only wanted dogs as pets one I owned my own homes. I am a dog kind of > guy. > > But I am the youngest of three (two sisters), and they always had cats. > mAnd wile I never really identified with cats? My wife did, and the > three cats we've had were here "babies". > > Right now, she is not at home. One of the three died for health reasons, > right now, one of the two left is standing on my chair arm as I type > this. Who would have thought that a Simease cat would have been needy > enough for attention to have just pawed me on my shoulder? > > Anywho, real love comes from unexpected corners... embrace it when it > comes, and understand it will not come again. Appreciate what you have, > while you have it. > > The same principal works for people also. > > Bob If I'm reading this right... Your wife left you or she is out while.... You have a dead cat in your house - "right now"? BTW - It's Siamese and principle |
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"Roger" > wrote in message ... > Bob Muncie wrote: >> Dave Smith wrote: >>> Bob Muncie wrote: >>> >>>> I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even >>>> Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing in >>>> common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy for >>>> that affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only my 50 >>>> years of experience. I am also not knocking you for your experience. >>>> Just expressing mine. >>> >>> I have been tempted to bring home a cat from the stable where I do >>> volunteer therapy work. The cat showed up there a few months ago and it >>> just won't leave. It is a friendly little critter, and demands a lot of >>> attention. The thing is that as much as I appreciate cats as mousing >>> implements, I am more of a dog person. I have had lots of cats in the >>> past, fed them, let them catch mice for me, even let them follow is n >>> walks in the woods. I am not sure that I can handle a cat that needs so >>> much attention. We have to stick it in a cage during therapy sessions >>> because it annoys everyone. >> >> Dave - It the prospective makes a difference? >> >> I only wanted dogs as pets one I owned my own homes. I am a dog kind of >> guy. >> >> But I am the youngest of three (two sisters), and they always had cats. >> mAnd wile I never really identified with cats? My wife did, and the three >> cats we've had were here "babies". >> >> Right now, she is not at home. One of the three died for health reasons, >> right now, one of the two left is standing on my chair arm as I type >> this. Who would have thought that a Simease cat would have been needy >> enough for attention to have just pawed me on my shoulder? >> >> Anywho, real love comes from unexpected corners... embrace it when it >> comes, and understand it will not come again. Appreciate what you have, >> while you have it. >> >> The same principal works for people also. >> >> Bob > > If I'm reading this right... > > Your wife left you or she is out while.... > > You have a dead cat in your house - "right now"? > > BTW - It's Siamese and principle Wertz is hitting it early tonight. |
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"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message ... > Cheryl wrote: >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:52:38 -0400, "Cheryl" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My current vet has an office cat that has run of the waiting room. >>> >>> How did we make the jump from a people doctor's office to the >>> veterinarian? >>> >> >> Because I'm an airhead sometimes. > > If that is your response, let me add this... You my dear, are a very smart > airhead that I respect. > Cheryl is great, and worthy indeed of respect. But in handing it out to ****heads like notbob, you kind of cheapen yours. |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > brooklyn1 wrote: >> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:41:28 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote: >> >>> Nancy Young wrote: >>>> Jean B. wrote: >>>>> Omelet wrote: >>>>>> Just curious about the percentage of folks that would love or hate >>>>>> cats at the Doctors or therapists offices... >>>>>> >>>>>> Me? I'd love it. >>>>> >>>>> I dunno. Many folks are allergic to cats. Some may be afraid of >>>>> them. I am generally in favor of pets in various places like >>>>> nursing homes, but any such thing would have to be restricted at >>>>> certain areas, I think. >>>> >>>> My mil was in what seemed to be a nursing home, but she was >>>> there for rehab. For reasons I don't remember, I had my cat with >>>> me (the aforementioned red point, Mugsy). I thought it would >>>> cheer up my mil to see her, so I stuck the cat in my coat and tried >>>> to smuggle her up to her room. Really, what was I thinking. >>>> >>>> Of course, I go through the front door, there's the desk and Mugsy >>>> pops her head up Hey, where are we going? Caught, red handed. >>>> Red point handed. Heh. I said My mil would like to see her. I was >>>> astonished at the reaction. >>>> >>>> OH! Sure! Bring her on up, the patients will love it! Well, she >>>> was the celebrity of the day at that place, many of the patients >>>> just wanted to pet her and tell me about their cats. It was very >>>> sweet but sad at the same time. I wish they could have some pets >>>> available to the patients. > >>> Yes, that's the thing. Cats, dogs, etc. can be really >>> beneficial--but then what about the allergies etc.? >> >> I have a difficult time believing that story... a nursing home is a >> medical facility, they wouldn't permit pets... perhaps it was an >> assisted care senior living community, some permit pets in one's own >> unit. > > No, it was not an assisted living facility. It was a hospital > with beds and curtains you could draw around the beds. And > I have no reason to make up a story like that, if anything it made > me look silly, sneaking a cat into a hospital type of place. Sheldon is such an idiot. I have seen televised news stories about companion animals being brought in to nursing homes. And I mean nursing homes. The animals have been shown to benefit the patients in measurable ways--such as pulse rate and blood pressure. |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > Bob Muncie wrote: > >> I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even >> Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing in >> common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy for that >> affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only my 50 years of >> experience. I am also not knocking you for your experience. Just >> expressing mine. > > I have been tempted to bring home a cat from the stable where I do > volunteer therapy work. The cat showed up there a few months ago and it > just won't leave. It is a friendly little critter, and demands a lot of > attention. The thing is that as much as I appreciate cats as mousing > implements, I am more of a dog person. You had better leave that cat to a kinder person. |
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"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message ... > cybercat wrote: >> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message >> ... >>> notbob wrote: >>>> On 2009-10-06, Dave Smith > wrote: >>>> >>>>> area. Not one "counter cat". >>>> Our vet has one. They also have an office dog. No biggie. >>>> >>>> nb >>> And you confirm the same reason I respect you... And yet was not so >>> confirming on the other post :-) >>> >>> At least on this one we didn't even have a communication issue :-) >>> >> >> There is not a reason in this world, or this post, that *I* see for >> "respecting" this cat-shooting imbecile. FFS, Bob. Muncie. > > Hey You!! > > Just because you are a cybercat, does not mean you should try and sway the > rest of us into trusting felines :-) > > It's pretty obvious that you are biased. > > > OTOH, I'll forgive you since you have a purrrfectly good excuse. > > Bob > > But I will keep your thoughts in mind ;-) nb is an asshole. Really truly. |
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"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message ... > notbob wrote: >> On 2009-10-06, Bob Muncie > wrote: >> >>> Feral cats are an entirely different topic. I'm surprised you raised >>> them as part of the same conversation. >> >> No, they are not. Cats are hunting creatures. What you think is so >> cute in a kitten chasing a stuffed mouse is the very instict that >> allows any cat to become feral almost overnight. Even tame house cats >> still hunt and put mice and birds on your doorstep. A very fascinating >> show about cats was on one of the education >> channels and showed how tame house cats could revert to wild instincts >> in a heartbeat, even if only temporarily. It showed a household male >> cat killing all the babies recently born to a female of the same >> household. This is typical of big cats in the wild. >> >> One of the reasons cats are so aloof towards us and act like they don't >> really need or appreciate us is cuz... THEY DON'T! duh nb > \ > nb - Are you NOT having a good day? I pointed out feral cats require > leather gloves to handle properly. > No, he is an ASSHOLE. |
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Roger wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote: >> Dave Smith wrote: >>> Bob Muncie wrote: >>> >>>> I've had cats for more years than I wish to admit to. Many are (even >>>> Simease that are rather not needy in general), but all had one thing >>>> in common. If they were treated nicely by humans, they became needy >>>> for that affection. Of course I could be wrong because that is only >>>> my 50 years of experience. I am also not knocking you for your >>>> experience. Just expressing mine. >>> >>> I have been tempted to bring home a cat from the stable where I do >>> volunteer therapy work. The cat showed up there a few months ago and >>> it just won't leave. It is a friendly little critter, and demands a >>> lot of attention. The thing is that as much as I appreciate cats as >>> mousing implements, I am more of a dog person. I have had lots of >>> cats in the past, fed them, let them catch mice for me, even let them >>> follow is n walks in the woods. I am not sure that I can handle a cat >>> that needs so much attention. We have to stick it in a cage during >>> therapy sessions because it annoys everyone. >> >> Dave - It the prospective makes a difference? >> >> I only wanted dogs as pets one I owned my own homes. I am a dog kind >> of guy. >> >> But I am the youngest of three (two sisters), and they always had >> cats. mAnd wile I never really identified with cats? My wife did, and >> the three cats we've had were here "babies". >> >> Right now, she is not at home. One of the three died for health >> reasons, right now, one of the two left is standing on my chair arm as >> I type this. Who would have thought that a Simease cat would have been >> needy enough for attention to have just pawed me on my shoulder? >> >> Anywho, real love comes from unexpected corners... embrace it when it >> comes, and understand it will not come again. Appreciate what you >> have, while you have it. >> >> The same principal works for people also. >> >> Bob > > If I'm reading this right... > > Your wife left you or she is out while.... > > You have a dead cat in your house - "right now"? > > BTW - It's Siamese and principle So roger, is being an ass your specialty? Or are you just trying to earn that post? In either case, you smell the same. I'm guessing it really doesn't matter as you would fit in either either direction, as long as you are being receptive. Thanks for your vile input, but you are now in the KF, so anything you have to say is only working to an audience that is not listening. Good bye ""...". |
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"notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2009-10-06, cybercat > wrote: > >> There is not a reason in this world, or this post, that *I* see for >> "respecting" this cat-shooting imbecile. FFS, Bob. Muncie. > > I've never shot a cat in my life, you psychotic moron. That's not to > say I wouldn't. Feral cats are a freakin plague. They are actually > negatively impacting the song bird populations in some areas of the US, > they not being a native species. I've also seen how they puke up > their hairballs all over the place with squirrel eyeballs and teeth > protruding. Don't tell me that's benign. > Feral cats are not a product of nature. At least not in the US. Feral domestic cats are a product of asshole humans who don't spay/neuter. It isn't their fault that they're forced to eek out a living by killing something. Then they reproduce. Ad infinitum. |
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Cheryl wrote:
> > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2009-10-06, cybercat > wrote: >> >>> There is not a reason in this world, or this post, that *I* see for >>> "respecting" this cat-shooting imbecile. FFS, Bob. Muncie. >> >> I've never shot a cat in my life, you psychotic moron. That's not to >> say I wouldn't. Feral cats are a freakin plague. They are actually >> negatively impacting the song bird populations in some areas of the US, >> they not being a native species. I've also seen how they puke up >> their hairballs all over the place with squirrel eyeballs and teeth >> protruding. Don't tell me that's benign. >> > > Feral cats are not a product of nature. At least not in the US. Feral > domestic cats are a product of asshole humans who don't spay/neuter. It > isn't their fault that they're forced to eek out a living by killing > something. Then they reproduce. Ad infinitum. Hi Cheryl - I'm not gainsaying your response as all critters if not being a "plague" to others deserve their space in life. I even mentioned in an earlier post that a feral cat actually scared me pretty well. I do not have an angry thought about it. I invaded it's space, tried to pick it up, and got what I deserved. No doubt the feral cats out in the country (where I live(d)), keep the field mice down to manageable levels. I hope they are doing double damage to the moles and voles. With that, I consider them my friends, even if I need to keep my hands to myself :-). BTW nb - The whole "throwing up" descriptive thing was pretty gross. Yes, cat eat birds. they eat mice, and if they are feral in nature, they don't particularly like people. But for the same reason I like birds (I feed them around 70lbs of feed every month near the house) as I enjoy watching them, I like the cats. Pretty cool to see them stalking the birds out here as a part of life. I just as often see the hawks doing fly overs on the cats and squirrels. Life is pretty cool that way. Gives you a reason to consider you own place in the scheme of things. I wish everyone had the opportunity I currently have. OTOH, my house cats that have never been outside, love to watch behind the screened in windows all that is going on. Bob |
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On 2009-10-07, Cheryl > wrote:
> Feral cats are not a product of nature. At least not in the US. Feral > domestic cats are a product of asshole humans who don't spay/neuter. No doubt they are a product of humans. Without cat owners, there would be not feral cats. > It isn't their fault that they're forced to eek out a living by > killing something. Then they reproduce. Ad infinitum. There are plenty of spayed feral cats out there. Ppl abandon cats by the truck load. Lose job, divorce, move, etc. I don't blame the cats, but that doesn't resolve the problem. They're jes trying to survive, but they still become an issue when they become wild predators, their natural nature. Mice are cute, singly in a habitrail, but they can also become an infestation. Likewise, cats. nb |
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On 2009-10-07, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> > BTW nb - The whole "throwing up" descriptive thing was pretty gross. Yeah, it is, but it was a fact. I worked at a lakeside resort food/boat concesion, miles from any homes. How did cats get here? They were here and lived mostly off ground squirrels, the hairballs they coughed up on the porch of the concession stand fulla squirrel teeth and eyeballs and I hadda pick 'em up every morning when opening so as not to gross out the city folk customers. > feed them around 70lbs of feed every month..... see my anti-feeder rant, elsewhere > Life is pretty cool that way. Gives you a reason to consider you own > place in the scheme of things. Sounds more like you are selfishly creating an artificial "scheme of things" to satisfy your own unatural personal desires. > I wish everyone had the opportunity I currently have. To do what? Screw up nature? > OTOH, my house cats that have never been outside, love to watch behind > the screened in windows all that is going on. Good. Keep 'em there. nb |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-10-07, Bob Muncie > wrote: >> BTW nb - The whole "throwing up" descriptive thing was pretty gross. > > Yeah, it is, but it was a fact. I worked at a lakeside resort > food/boat concesion, miles from any homes. How did cats get here? > They were here and lived mostly off ground squirrels, the hairballs > they coughed up on the porch of the concession stand fulla squirrel > teeth and eyeballs and I hadda pick 'em up every morning when opening > so as not to gross out the city folk customers. > > > >> feed them around 70lbs of feed every month..... > > see my anti-feeder rant, elsewhere > >> Life is pretty cool that way. Gives you a reason to consider you own >> place in the scheme of things. > > Sounds more like you are selfishly creating an artificial "scheme of > things" to satisfy your own unatural personal desires. > >> I wish everyone had the opportunity I currently have. > > To do what? Screw up nature? > >> OTOH, my house cats that have never been outside, love to watch behind >> the screened in windows all that is going on. > > Good. Keep 'em there. > > nb > nb - Sometimes you even amaze me with the callousness you sometimes have. I hunt, dress, clean, and eat my own game, etc. It's not like I'm part of a suburban version of a comical movie. I realize the roles all the wildlife have in our environment. You want a description about how gross it is to pull down the trachea so that you can sever it as close to the source as possible when field dressing a deer? I know real life gross as well. The point is you did not need to be so graphic. Also, all the wildlife (to include the introduced feral cats), usually find their place in the food chain. Note I mention watching the hawks dealing with them as well as squirrels and rabbits elsewhere. And to be honest? I'd rather have one or two too may feral cats that are eating the voles, moles, and if large enough, the squirrels and even the groundhogs. If there is food to go around, I have no issue with them. Bob |
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tOn 2009-10-07, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> nb - Sometimes you even amaze me with the callousness you sometimes have. Yeah, Imma dick ...one of the rfc's incorrigible curmudgeons. Jes ask cyberface. > I hunt, dress, clean, and eat my own game, etc. It's not like I'm part > of a suburban version of a comical movie. I realize the roles all the > wildlife have in our environment. Cool. Perhaps I incorrectly assumed otherwise. I'm not all-seeing, by any means. > You want a description about how gross it is to pull down the trachea so > that you can sever it as close to the source as possible when field > dressing a deer? I'd love it! I do not know how to field dress a deer. Game birds, yes, but not four legged stuff. I'd love to learn as I want to kill an elk, this fall. > I know real life gross as well. The point is you did not need to be > so graphic. I qualified it for the wimps. It was jes nature, to me. > Also, all the wildlife (to include the introduced feral cats), usually > find their place in the food chain. Note I mention watching the hawks > dealing with them as well as squirrels and rabbits elsewhere. And to be > honest? I'd rather have one or two too may feral cats that are eating > the voles, moles, and if large enough, the squirrels and even the > groundhogs. If there is food to go around, I have no issue with them. You make a good argument, Bob. I like that. OTOH, domestic cats are not native and do have the ability to upset the natural predator/prey balance. The excesively high depradation of domestic cats on Eastern US songbirds has long been documented by experts. It is not natural and is caused by the insane tendency of too-much-time/money Americans to anthropomorphize their pets. I have nothing against any pet. I had many for many years. Even now, preferring not to have ANY pet, I respect the rights of others, unless they abuse those rights. Hey, I may still get another dog. ;) BTW, I forgot to thank you for your complimenting my writing. Thank you. You made me blush. ;) nb |
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