Watched it Tuesday night. Robert was back after having to back out last of
last year's episode due to heart palptations. He came back this year. And
he has really been acting like a bitch. Critical as hell of everyone,
pitching little fits like a little kid, breaking things and yelling and
screaming. As if he should be given some special accord.

Then he had another heart issue and was gone for two days. The guys on the
Blue team were going "Thank God Robert isn't here. He never did anything
anyway." Just as they said that Robert came back while everyone else was
busy doing prep. He put on his jacket, said hi, then the camera showed him
kicking back eating a snack and drinking a cola. Everyone else was working.
Came time to get on the line and he still wasn't doing a damn thing.

This time when he went up on the "block" he said "I've been in Hell's
Kitchen three times. Three times!" Yeah? So what? You can't keep riding
on the disability pass, dude.

So he got booted. This time for good. I literally could have stood up and
cheered. He really started acting like an ass and he deserved to be kicked
off the competition. As Chef Ramsay said, "I'm looking for a head chef, and
Robert isn't it."

I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of the
contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't pick any
of them

Jill

On Aug 27, 11:29*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Watched it Tuesday night. *Robert was back after having to back out last of
> last year's episode due to heart palptations. *He came back this year. *And
> he has really been acting like a bitch. *Critical as hell of everyone,
> pitching little fits like a little kid, breaking things and yelling and
> screaming. *As if he should be given some special accord.
>
> Then he had another heart issue and was gone for two days. *The guys on the
> Blue team were going "Thank God Robert isn't here. *He never did anything
> anyway." *Just as they said that Robert came back while everyone else was
> busy doing prep. *He put on his jacket, said hi, then the camera showed him
> kicking back eating a snack and drinking a cola. *Everyone else was working.
> Came time to get on the line and he still wasn't doing a damn thing.
>
> This time when he went up on the "block" he said "I've been in Hell's
> Kitchen three times. *Three times!" *Yeah? *So what? *You can't keep riding
> on the disability pass, dude.
>
> So he got booted. *This time for good. *I literally could have stood up and
> cheered. *He really started acting like an ass and he deserved to be kicked
> off the competition. *As Chef Ramsay said, "I'm looking for a head chef, and
> Robert isn't it."
>
> I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. *None of the
> contestants stand out. *The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't pick any
> of them
>
> Jill

I can't stand the show. I'd rather have my eyelids taped open and have
to watch CSI Miami.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:
>
>I can't stand the show. I'd rather have my eyelids taped open and have
>to watch CSI Miami.

I don't like that show, and I especially do not like Gordon Ramsey.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Stu wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:29:41 -0400, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> -->Watched it Tuesday night. Robert was back after having to back out last of
> -->last year's episode due to heart palptations. He came back this year. And
> -->he has really been acting like a bitch. Critical as hell of everyone,
> -->pitching little fits like a little kid, breaking things and yelling and
> -->screaming. As if he should be given some special accord.
> -->
> -->Then he had another heart issue and was gone for two days. The guys on the
> -->Blue team were going "Thank God Robert isn't here. He never did anything
> -->anyway." Just as they said that Robert came back while everyone else was
> -->busy doing prep. He put on his jacket, said hi, then the camera showed him
> -->kicking back eating a snack and drinking a cola. Everyone else was working.
> -->Came time to get on the line and he still wasn't doing a damn thing.
> -->
> -->This time when he went up on the "block" he said "I've been in Hell's
> -->Kitchen three times. Three times!" Yeah? So what? You can't keep riding
> -->on the disability pass, dude.
> -->
> -->So he got booted. This time for good. I literally could have stood up and
> -->cheered. He really started acting like an ass and he deserved to be kicked
> -->off the competition. As Chef Ramsay said, "I'm looking for a head chef, and
> -->Robert isn't it."
> -->
> -->I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of the
> -->contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't pick any
> -->of them
> -->
> -->Jill
>
>
> I don't know why the food network airs his program at all. He's a nasty filthy
> mouthed ass who grates on your nerves. It would be more entertaining to have
> one of the contestants do him in with a boning knife as he berates them on the
> line during service.

He's not on the Food Network. This is a Fox show.....which explains a lot.

He does have another show on BBC America - I forget the name but he is
much calmer. He still calls people names but he is not nearly as bad as
Hell's Kitchen.

Tracy

"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> Stu wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:29:41 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> -->Watched it Tuesday night. Robert was back after having to back out
>> last of -->last year's episode due to heart palptations. He came back
>> this year. And -->he has really been acting like a bitch. Critical as
>> hell of everyone, -->pitching little fits like a little kid, breaking
>> things and yelling and -->screaming. As if he should be given some
>> special accord.
>> -->
>> -->I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of
>> the -->contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay
>> didn't pick any
>> -->of them
>> -->
>>
>> I don't know why the food network airs his program at all. He's a nasty
>> filthy
>> mouthed ass who grates on your nerves. It would be more entertaining to
>> have
>> one of the contestants do him in with a boning knife as he berates them
>> on the
>> line during service.
>
> He's not on the Food Network. This is a Fox show.....which explains a lot.
>
> He does have another show on BBC America - I forget the name but he is
> much calmer. He still calls people names but he is not nearly as bad as
> Hell's Kitchen.
>
> Tracy


You're thinking of Kitchen Nightmares, where he goes in and "fixes" failing
restaurants. From what I've seen those restaurants desperately need
"fixing". I wouldn't eat in them. Apparently no one else would, either

Once you get past the yelling and cussing, Chef Ramsay actually knows what
he's doing. He knows about food, he knows how to run a kitchen. That would
be why he has several successful restarauts around the world.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> "Tracy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Stu wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:29:41 -0400, "jmcquown"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> -->Watched it Tuesday night. Robert was back after having to back
>>> out last of -->last year's episode due to heart palptations. He came
>>> back this year. And -->he has really been acting like a bitch.
>>> Critical as hell of everyone, -->pitching little fits like a little
>>> kid, breaking things and yelling and -->screaming. As if he should
>>> be given some special accord.
>>> -->
>>> -->I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of the
>>> -->contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay
>>> didn't pick any
>>> -->of them
>>> -->
>>>
>>> I don't know why the food network airs his program at all. He's a
>>> nasty filthy
>>> mouthed ass who grates on your nerves. It would be more entertaining
>>> to have
>>> one of the contestants do him in with a boning knife as he berates
>>> them on the
>>> line during service.
>>
>> He's not on the Food Network. This is a Fox show.....which explains a
>> lot.
>>
>> He does have another show on BBC America - I forget the name but he is
>> much calmer. He still calls people names but he is not nearly as bad
>> as Hell's Kitchen.
>>
>> Tracy
>
>
> You're thinking of Kitchen Nightmares, where he goes in and "fixes"
> failing restaurants. From what I've seen those restaurants desperately
> need "fixing". I wouldn't eat in them. Apparently no one else would,
> either
>
> Once you get past the yelling and cussing, Chef Ramsay actually knows
> what he's doing. He knows about food, he knows how to run a kitchen.
> That would be why he has several successful restarauts around the world.
>
> Jill

Yes, that's it, Kitchen Nightmares. I find it kinda charming actually.
Sometimes the owners are really stupid,which is what makes it funny and
not the fact he calls them donkeys or whatever.

Tracy

"Stu" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:29:41 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
> -->So he got booted. This time for good. I literally could have stood up
> and
> -->cheered. He really started acting like an ass and he deserved to be
> kicked
> -->off the competition. As Chef Ramsay said, "I'm looking for a head
> chef, and
> -->Robert isn't it."
> -->
> -->I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of the
> -->contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't
> pick any
> -->of them
> -->
> -->Jill
>
>
> I don't know why the food network airs his program at all. He's a nasty
> filthy
> mouthed ass who grates on your nerves. It would be more entertaining to
> have
> one of the contestants do him in with a boning knife as he berates them on
> the
> line during service.


Get your facts straight. The show isn't on the Food Network.

Hell's Kitchen is a bit like Marine Corps Boot Camp. If you can't cut it
you'll get your ass booted out In this case, to apply a more quaint
phrase, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". Very apt.
Especially when competing for the position as head chef in a huge restaurant
as the prize.

Jill

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> > wrote:
>>
>> I can't stand the show. I'd rather have my eyelids taped open and
>> have to watch CSI Miami.
>
> I don't like that show, and I especially do not like Gordon Ramsey.

Nor do I!

On 2009-08-27, Tracy > wrote:

> Yes, that's it, Kitchen Nightmares. I find it kinda charming actually.
> Sometimes the owners are really stupid,which is what makes it funny and
> not the fact he calls them donkeys or whatever.

Even funnier, most of them go on to fail in spite of his efforts.

http://gordonramsayskitchen.com/

Gordon has even been sued by some of them, even funnier, as they were
doomed in the first place. You can almost tell which ones will fail,
their owners being beyond help, stupid beyond belief.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-08-27, Tracy > wrote:
>
>> Yes, that's it, Kitchen Nightmares. I find it kinda charming actually.
>> Sometimes the owners are really stupid,which is what makes it funny and
>> not the fact he calls them donkeys or whatever.
>
> Even funnier, most of them go on to fail in spite of his efforts.

Usually because they ignore his advice and go back to "their" way of
doing things.


Tracy

On Aug 27, 1:31*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Aug 27, 11:29*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Watched it Tuesday night. *Robert was back after having to back out last of
> > last year's episode due to heart palptations. *He came back this year.. *And
> > he has really been acting like a bitch. *Critical as hell of everyone,
> > pitching little fits like a little kid, breaking things and yelling and
> > screaming. *As if he should be given some special accord.
>
> > Then he had another heart issue and was gone for two days. *The guys on the
> > Blue team were going "Thank God Robert isn't here. *He never did anything
> > anyway." *Just as they said that Robert came back while everyone else was
> > busy doing prep. *He put on his jacket, said hi, then the camera showed him
> > kicking back eating a snack and drinking a cola. *Everyone else was working.
> > Came time to get on the line and he still wasn't doing a damn thing.
>
> > This time when he went up on the "block" he said "I've been in Hell's
> > Kitchen three times. *Three times!" *Yeah? *So what? *You can't keep riding
> > on the disability pass, dude.
>
> > So he got booted. *This time for good. *I literally could have stood up and
> > cheered. *He really started acting like an ass and he deserved to be kicked
> > off the competition. *As Chef Ramsay said, "I'm looking for a head chef, and
> > Robert isn't it."
>
> > I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. *None of the
> > contestants stand out. *The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't pick any
> > of them
>
> > Jill
>
> I can't stand the show. I'd rather have my eyelids taped open and have
> to watch CSI Miami.

I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
massive narcissism. Most of those idiot "contestants" wouldn't even
land a job as a busboy, much less a head chef of an upscale
restaurant. I mean, last year they had a frigging buffet server!
C'mon get real! But I realize that if they had competent chefs
competing, then Ramsay wouldn't have any opportunity to stand there in
the kitchen and scream obsenities at the top of his lungs when someone
can't boil spaghetti or warm up a can of scallops to his exacting
standards (snicker).....Yes they use tinned scallops, they ****ed up
and showed it on the last season. Puh-leeze! Even TV Food Network
(another snicker) could come up with better fare than this show.

On Aug 27, 3:09*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Stu" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:29:41 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> > wrote:
>
> > -->So he got booted. *This time for good. *I literally could have stood up
> > and
> > -->cheered. *He really started acting like an ass and he deserved to be
> > kicked
> > -->off the competition. *As Chef Ramsay said, "I'm looking for a head
> > chef, and
> > -->Robert isn't it."
> > -->
> > -->I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. *None of the
> > -->contestants stand out. *The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't
> > pick any
> > -->of them
> > -->
> > -->Jill
>
> > I don't know why the food network *airs his program at all. He's a nasty
> > filthy
> > mouthed ass who grates on your nerves. It would be more entertaining to
> > have
> > one of the contestants do him in with a boning knife as he berates them on
> > the
> > line during service.
>
> Get your facts straight. *The show isn't on the Food Network.
>
> Hell's Kitchen is a bit like Marine Corps Boot Camp. *If you can't cut it
> you'll get your ass booted out *In this case, to apply a more quaint
> phrase, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". *Very apt.

On Aug 27, 3:37*pm, Tracy > wrote:
> notbob wrote:
> > On 2009-08-27, Tracy > wrote:
>
> >> Yes, that's it, Kitchen Nightmares. I find it kinda charming actually.
> >> Sometimes the owners are really stupid,which is what makes it funny and
> >> not the fact he calls them donkeys or whatever.
>
> > Even funnier, most of them go on to fail in spite of his efforts.
>
> Usually because they ignore his advice and go back to "their" way of
> doing things.

Or, because they weren't qualified in the first place.

On Aug 27, 3:36*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-08-27, Tracy > wrote:
>
> > Yes, that's it, Kitchen Nightmares. I find it kinda charming actually.
> > Sometimes the owners are really stupid,which is what makes it funny and
> > not the fact he calls them donkeys or whatever.
>
> Even funnier, most of them go on to fail in spite of his efforts.
>
> http://gordonramsayskitchen.com/
>
> Gordon has even been sued by some of them, even funnier, as they were
> doomed in the first place. *You can almost tell which ones will fail,
> their owners being beyond help, stupid beyond belief.

I couldn't figure out why they had to have a program to "fix" those
dumb restaurants, anyway. It was the same thing every time: fire the
lazy staff with the shitty attitudes, fire the manager with the shitty
attitude, stop serving shitty food, and clean the ****ing place! Why
did they need an "expert" to come in to figure that out for them?
Dumb!

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-08-27, Tracy > wrote:
>
>> Yes, that's it, Kitchen Nightmares. I find it kinda charming actually.
>> Sometimes the owners are really stupid,which is what makes it funny and
>> not the fact he calls them donkeys or whatever.
>
> Even funnier, most of them go on to fail in spite of his efforts.
>
> http://gordonramsayskitchen.com/
>
> Gordon has even been sued by some of them, even funnier, as they were
> doomed in the first place. You can almost tell which ones will fail,
> their owners being beyond help, stupid beyond belief.
>
> nb
>
>

What I've seen of 'Kitchen Nightmares', they're mostly family run
enterprises and ONE member of the family is running the place into the
ground. *Never* do business with family.

And the food... well, take a look at the walk-in fridges... the food has
been sitting there for weeks. It's enough to make anyone sick. Some of
these places, they're lucky they haven't killed someone (which Ramsay so
rightly points out).

I recall one where the seafood restaurant was right on a lake, I think it
was in Michigan. They were buying frozen seafood from someplace else and he
said "but you're sitting on a lake! Why don't you serve fresh trout?!" Buy
from the local fishermen! How true. Buy local fish, support local farmers.
I like that about him.

Jill

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:

>I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>massive narcissism.

I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
him is beyond me.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

PVC wrote:

> I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
> massive narcissism. Most of those idiot "contestants" wouldn't even land
> a job as a busboy, much less a head chef of an upscale restaurant.

The "head chef" thing is a myth. The winner of Hell's Kitchen goes on to a
job as a senior sous-chef at the "prize" restaurant. But they still garner a
nice chunk of change just for winning the competition.

In a past discussion of Hell's Kitchen, someone referred the contestants as
"kitchen rats," which seems a fairly good term to use: They don't really
have any culinary expertise or great talent, but they've been working in
kitchens so they aspire to chefdom. Ambition is all well and good, but
there's really no valid way to leapfrog your way to the top in the world of
professional cooking; if you don't pay your dues by working (usually for
*years*) with prep cooking, line cooking, and recipe development, then you
lack the knowledge to be an executive chef or head chef. It's no accident
that so many great chefs started out as apprentices when they were
teenagers.

Bob

Jill wrote:

> I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of the
> contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't pick
> any of them

I'm not *rooting* (not correct spelling) for any of the contestants, but I
think Kevin is the frontrunner. I also think Tenille and Suzanne will remain
in the game as long as possible because they are so irritating, and drama is
what keeps the viewers watching week after week.

Bob

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>
>> I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>> massive narcissism.
>
> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
> him is beyond me.
>

I like to think that he really isn't as bad as he is on Hell's Kitchen.
Maybe I am naive. It is Fox after all. TV is fake.

Have you seen him make scrambled eggs? Totally different person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks

Tracy

Jill wrote:

> Once you get past the yelling and cussing, Chef Ramsay actually knows what
> he's doing. He knows about food, he knows how to run a kitchen. That
> would be why he has several successful restarauts around the world.

I can wholeheartedly recommend _A Chef For All Seasons_. Every recipe I've
made from that book of Ramsay's recipes has been delicious. His
provincial-chauvinistic outlook comes up regularly, though: "We only use
salmon from Scotland, because it's the best." Or, "All my restaurants get
their lamb from Scotland, because Scottish lamb is the best."

Bob

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> I haven't figured out who I'm routing for, if anyone. None of the
> contestants stand out. The real surprise would be if Ramsay didn't pick
> any of them

Given their alleged qualifications and background, most seem to be
incompetent, immature, and barely experienced. I'd choose none of them to
be a manager. Ramsey would do better by going over to Top Chef and taking
the second or third place chef.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>
>>I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>massive narcissism.
>
> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
> him is beyond me.
>

It's a "reality show", but at least there's more point to it than being
stranded on a friggin desert island eating bugs.

He doesn't treat his restaurant staff that way. These people are competing
so of course he's yelling at them. Look at the contestants. They're all
*so* cocky. They have no idea what it takes to run a restaurant. Like him
or not, Ramsay knows what it takes. He's successful. He manages 5 (I
think) restaurants, has a wife and children and still finds time to do this
TV stuff. Self-promoting? Of course. He's laughing all the way to the
bank. But I've tried a number of his recipes and he definitely knows how to
cook.

Jill

"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>> massive narcissism.
>>
>> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
>> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
>> him is beyond me.
>>
>
> I like to think that he really isn't as bad as he is on Hell's Kitchen.
> Maybe I am naive. It is Fox after all. TV is fake.
>
> Have you seen him make scrambled eggs? Totally different person.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks
>
And that ain't ordinary sourdough bread! That's obviously from the Poilne
bakery and is unlike any US style SD bread.
Graham

Jill wrote about Gordon Ramsay:

> He manages 5 (I think) restaurants, has a wife and children and still
> finds time to do this TV stuff.

Let's see.... www.gordonramsay.com lists 11 UK restaurants, 3 pubs, 5 US
restaurants, 2 restaurants in France, 1 restaurant in Ireland, 1 restaurant
in Tuscany, 1 restaurant in Sardinia, 1 restaurant in Dubai, 1 restaurant in
Tokyo, and 1 restaurant in South Africa.

So your count is off just a bit.

Bob

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:37:16 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>He doesn't treat his restaurant staff that way.

How do you know this? He is like a virtual asshole on TV.

>These people are competing
>so of course he's yelling at them. Look at the contestants. They're all
>*so* cocky. They have no idea what it takes to run a restaurant.

If they are incompetent, why are they chosen to be on TV?

>Like him
>or not, Ramsay knows what it takes. He's successful. He manages 5 (I
>think) restaurants, has a wife and children and still finds time to do this
>TV stuff. Self-promoting? Of course. He's laughing all the way to the
>bank. But I've tried a number of his recipes and he definitely knows how to
>cook.
>
He is just a television personality AFAIC. I haven't seen recipes
with his name on TV or in print and I will never seek them out. He is
completely repugnant to me.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>
> >I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
> >massive narcissism.
>
> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
> him is beyond me.

No different from any other "reality" show, then? I mean, at least they
get a job out of it!

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

"graham" > wrote in message
news
>
> "Tracy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>>> massive narcissism.
>>>
>>> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
>>> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
>>> him is beyond me.
>>>
>>
>> I like to think that he really isn't as bad as he is on Hell's Kitchen.
>> Maybe I am naive. It is Fox after all. TV is fake.
>>
>> Have you seen him make scrambled eggs? Totally different person.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks
>>
> And that ain't ordinary sourdough bread! That's obviously from the Poilne
> bakery and is unlike any US style SD bread.
> Graham
>

He doesn't live in the US, so why should the video show US sourdough bread?

Jill

"Miche" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>>
>> >I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>> >massive narcissism.
>>
>> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
>> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
>> him is beyond me.
>
> No different from any other "reality" show, then? I mean, at least they
> get a job out of it!
>
> Miche
>
> --
> Electricians do it in three phases



Exactly! They aren't in it to win money; they're competing for a job.
Pretty big job, at that. I wouldn't want it. Being a chef is not just
about what you see on television. Those "punishments" the losing teams have
to deal with? like unloading the trucks and taking inventory, stocking the
coolers and the freezers, then doing prep, that's real work. I remember the
chef at the last restaurant I worked in was there at 6AM checking in the
produce and food deliveries for the day. Then he oversaw the prep for
everything on the menu that day. That man was on his feet for at least 14
hours a day at the very least. Another reason I don't want to be a
professional chef. I'd rather just cook for fun.

Jill

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:37:16 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> He doesn't treat his restaurant staff that way.
>
> How do you know this? He is like a virtual asshole on TV.
>
>> These people are competing
>> so of course he's yelling at them. Look at the contestants.
>> They're all *so* cocky. They have no idea what it takes to run a
>> restaurant.
>
> If they are incompetent, why are they chosen to be on TV?
>
>> Like him
>> or not, Ramsay knows what it takes. He's successful. He manages 5
>> (I think) restaurants, has a wife and children and still finds time
>> to do this TV stuff. Self-promoting? Of course. He's laughing all
>> the way to the bank. But I've tried a number of his recipes and he
>> definitely knows how to cook.
>>
> He is just a television personality AFAIC. I haven't seen recipes
> with his name on TV or in print and I will never seek them out. He is
> completely repugnant to me.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...food-find.html

http://tinyurl.com/m93mxj

Not an isolated case either. Have a look on google.

I wouldn't eat in his places.

Ophelia wrote:

> http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...food-find.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/m93mxj
>
> Not an isolated case either. Have a look on google.
>
> I wouldn't eat in his places.

News of the World is trash masquerading as news. Were you truly unaware of
that? Looking at Google as you recommend, I see the number of alleged
violations has been variously reported as 24 (the trash rag you cited) and
17 (the Daily Mirror, another worthless tabloid). Which is it? And do you
have a *reputable* source for this, or do tabloids have some exclusive
license to report on Ramsay?

CNN had no story about this. ABC News had no story about this. AP had no
story about this. NY Times had no story about this, but it *did* have an
interesting one about Gordon Ramsay showing a picture of a nude woman with a
pig's face, and stating that it was a picture of Australian TV journalist
Tracy Grimshaw.

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...ordon-Ramsays-
>> New-York-eaterie-in-London-slammed-by-health-inspectors-after-
>> contaminated-food-find.html http://tinyurl.com/m93mxj
>>
>> Not an isolated case either. Have a look on google.
>>
>> I wouldn't eat in his places.
>
> News of the World is trash masquerading as news. Were you truly
> unaware of that? Looking at Google as you recommend, I see the number
> of alleged violations has been variously reported as 24 (the trash
> rag you cited) and 17 (the Daily Mirror, another worthless tabloid).
> Which is it? And do you have a *reputable* source for this, or do
> tabloids have some exclusive license to report on Ramsay?
>
> CNN had no story about this. ABC News had no story about this. AP had
> no story about this. NY Times had no story about this, but it *did*
> have an interesting one about Gordon Ramsay showing a picture of a
> nude woman with a pig's face, and stating that it was a picture of
> Australian TV journalist Tracy Grimshaw.

Since I don't read the New of the World I will leave that 'knowledge' to
you. I do know from local experience that one of his restaurant was filthy
and was
closed down. I was simply pointing out that there are stories on Google.

Ophelia wrote:

>>> http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...ordon-Ramsays-
>>> New-York-eaterie-in-London-slammed-by-health-inspectors-after-
>>> contaminated-food-find.html http://tinyurl.com/m93mxj
>>>
>>> Not an isolated case either. Have a look on google.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't eat in his places.
>>
>> News of the World is trash masquerading as news. Were you truly
>> unaware of that? Looking at Google as you recommend, I see the number
>> of alleged violations has been variously reported as 24 (the trash
>> rag you cited) and 17 (the Daily Mirror, another worthless tabloid).
>> Which is it? And do you have a *reputable* source for this, or do
>> tabloids have some exclusive license to report on Ramsay?
>>
>> CNN had no story about this. ABC News had no story about this. AP had
>> no story about this. NY Times had no story about this, but it *did*
>> have an interesting one about Gordon Ramsay showing a picture of a
>> nude woman with a pig's face, and stating that it was a picture of
>> Australian TV journalist Tracy Grimshaw.
>
> Since I don't read the New of the World I will leave that 'knowledge' to
> you. I do know from local experience that one of his restaurant was
> filthy and was closed down. I was simply pointing out that there are
> stories on Google.

What do you mean you don't read News of the World? Didn't you read the story
you posted? Where did you think the story was being published? And regarding
your "local experience," exactly which of his restaurants was "filthy and
was closed down" and exactly when did this occur? And are you SURE you're
not confusing Gordon Ramsay with Heston Blumenthal?

Google is a search engine. It lists web sites which contain your search
keywords. It doesn't distinguish betweem web sites written by whack-jobs and
web sites written by responsible journalists. In this case, I found ZERO
hits for web sites written by responsible journalists. It's all well and
good to use Google, but you should be aware that there are a *lot* of web
sites and blogs out there which are nothing but shit, and Google serves them
right up to you because you asked.

I searched news sources I consider reputable, but found no corroboration for
the story you posted. Therefore I looked into the source you posted and
discovered that it's a tabloid. Then I looked at other Google web sites
where the story was posted and found them equally spurious. That's why I
asked for a reputable source. Apparently, you don't have one, and so I
believe at *best* the story has only a small seed of truth, and at worst,
it's completely made up.

Bob

I wrote:

> I searched news sources I consider reputable, but found no corroboration
> for the story you posted. Therefore I looked into the source you posted
> and discovered that it's a tabloid. Then I looked at other Google web
> sites where the story was posted and found them equally spurious. That's
> why I asked for a reputable source. Apparently, you don't have one, and so
> I believe at *best* the story has only a small seed of truth, and at
> worst, it's completely made up.

OK, it turns out the actual NYC health inspection results are available
online, and there were indeed 17 points assessed against Gordon Ramsay at
the London. The areas of violation somewhat were as stated in the tabloid:

1.) Food item spoiled, adulterated, contaminated or cross-contaminated.

2.) Cold food held above 41°F (smoked fish above 38°F) except during
necessary preparation.

Those are the only FACTS available. The lurid posting about how people would
have been POISONED and other sensational bullshit is exactly that, bullshit.
There were not "TWENTY FOUR" violations; there were TWO violations which
totaled 17 points. The writer doesn't seem to be able to understand the
difference between violations and points. And the 17 points is an
IMPROVEMENT on the previous year's (still passing) score of 20, not the
"four more than on a previous inspectors' visit" stated in the story.
Finally, the tidbit about mildew in the ice machine appears to be a complete
fabrication.

Bob

On Aug 27, 2:29*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Watched it Tuesday night. *Robert was back after having to back out last of
> last year's episode due to heart palptations. *He came back this year. *And
> he has really been acting like a bitch. *Critical as hell of everyone,
> pitching little fits like a little kid, breaking things and yelling and
> screaming. *As if he should be given some special accord.
>
> Then he had another heart issue and was gone for two days. *

When the medic was checking him in the previous episode you could see
a trail of smoke from his cigarette. He put on weight since last
season and smokes while seeking medical help for his heart.
The whole show is like rubbernecking past a car wreck but watching
Robert was especially uncomfortable.

Cam

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news
>>
>> "Tracy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>>>> massive narcissism.
>>>>
>>>> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
>>>> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
>>>> him is beyond me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like to think that he really isn't as bad as he is on Hell's Kitchen.
>>> Maybe I am naive. It is Fox after all. TV is fake.
>>>
>>> Have you seen him make scrambled eggs? Totally different person.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks
>>>
>> And that ain't ordinary sourdough bread! That's obviously from the
>> Poilne bakery and is unlike any US style SD bread.
>> Graham
>>
>
> He doesn't live in the US, so why should the video show US sourdough
> bread?
>
That wasn't the point! US style SD is available there but this was French
style "SD" or pain au levain.
Graham

sf wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>
> > I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
> > massive narcissism.
>
> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
> him is beyond me.

Yeah, what kind of crazy budding chef would want to work for a guy with
multiple Michelin-star restaurants?




Brian

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"graham" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> He doesn't live in the US, so why should the video show US sourdough
>> bread?
>>
> That wasn't the point! US style SD is available there but this was French
> style "SD" or pain au levain.
> Graham
>

Picking at nits are you? Sheesh, who cares where the sourdough was made?
You can still make the same scrambled eggs with creme fraiche served on
toasted WHATEVER sourdough bread. Doesn't matter on what continent the
bread was baked, the dish will still taste the same

Jill

graham wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"graham" > wrote in message
>>news >>
>>>"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>>>>>massive narcissism.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
>>>>>volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
>>>>>him is beyond me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I like to think that he really isn't as bad as he is on Hell's Kitchen.
>>>>Maybe I am naive. It is Fox after all. TV is fake.
>>>>
>>>>Have you seen him make scrambled eggs? Totally different person.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks
>>>>
>>>
>>>And that ain't ordinary sourdough bread! That's obviously from the
>>>Poilne bakery and is unlike any US style SD bread.
>>>Graham
>>>
>>
>>He doesn't live in the US, so why should the video show US sourdough
>>bread?
>>
>
> That wasn't the point! US style SD is available there but this was French
> style "SD" or pain au levain.
> Graham

It looked a lot like a slice from the sourdough baguettes available at
the local Costco. And even so, the main point was the scrambled eggs,
or rather, the technique for getting them so lovely and creamy, was it not?

Kathleen wrote:
> graham wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>
>>>> "Tracy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>>>>>> massive narcissism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
>>>>>> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
>>>>>> him is beyond me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I like to think that he really isn't as bad as he is on Hell's
>>>>> Kitchen. Maybe I am naive. It is Fox after all. TV is fake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you seen him make scrambled eggs? Totally different person.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And that ain't ordinary sourdough bread! That's obviously from the
>>>> Poilne bakery and is unlike any US style SD bread.
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>> He doesn't live in the US, so why should the video show US sourdough
>>> bread?
>>>
>>
>> That wasn't the point! US style SD is available there but this was
>> French style "SD" or pain au levain.
>> Graham
>
> It looked a lot like a slice from the sourdough baguettes available at
> the local Costco. And even so, the main point was the scrambled eggs,
> or rather, the technique for getting them so lovely and creamy, was it not?
>
>


Yes, that was the point.. also, the fact that his attitude/behavior is
not as it is on Hell's Kitchen.

Tracy

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:15:30 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:14:06 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>
>>I agree. Hell's Kitchen is nothing more than a vehicle for Ramsay's
>>massive narcissism.
>
> I don't look at it that way. I think he's a bully. Why anyone would
> volunteer to be humiliated on television with a goal of working for
> him is beyond me.

because they get to go on t.v., silly. the *ne plus ultra* of american
life.

your pal,
blake