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In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?

Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
investigate reintroduction of such a plan.


The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
Cheers
P

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"phil..c" wrote:
>
> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>
> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>
> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
> Cheers
> P

It varies from state to state.

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Pete C. wrote:
> "phil..c" wrote:
>> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
>> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>>
>> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
>> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
>> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>>
>> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
>> Cheers
>> P
>
> It varies from state to state.
can you indicate which states in USA have it please

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phil..c wrote:
>
> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>
> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>
> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
> Cheers
> P

Some states do, some states do not - for plastic bottles. The prices
also vary. Also, some dairies still provide milk in bottles, so those
will definitely have (return) deposits for the bottles. Beer bottle(s)
deposits & such, I think those vary by state, also.

Sky

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phil..c wrote:
> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>
> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>
>
> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
> Cheers
> P


In my experience it depends on the state. When I was a kid
most glass bottles for beverages had a deposit which was
returned when the bottle was returned. They were refilled
and reused. Other glass was not. Now in most places both
glass and plastic can be recycled. Some places pay by
weight, others offer the service without
payment.

Most of our plastic bottles have something like "5 cent
refund in Michigan, California, and NY" printed on the
labels. (I made up the states but I'm pretty sure
California is one of those that does still require grocers
or recycling stations to refund.)

gloria p

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phil..c wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > "phil..c" wrote:
> >> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
> >> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
> >>
> >> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
> >> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
> >> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
> >>
> >> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
> >> Cheers
> >> P
> >
> > It varies from state to state.
> can you indicate which states in USA have it please

That's a bit difficult to answer. Most deposit bottles have fine print
on them someplace that lists the states where bottles can be returned
for deposit refunds. Illinois doesn't have one, that I know of. If so,
I'd've been saving bottles a long time ago, but then again, we don't
often buy bottled anything.

Sky

--
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Puester wrote:
> phil..c wrote:
>> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
>> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic
>> containers ?
>>
>> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
>> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
>> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.

>> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
>> Cheers
>> P
>
>
> In my experience it depends on the state. When I was a kid
> most glass bottles for beverages had a deposit which was
> returned when the bottle was returned. They were refilled
> and reused. Other glass was not. Now in most places both
> glass and plastic can be recycled. Some places pay by
> weight, others offer the service without payment.

In NJ, we have mandatory recycling. I don't know what the
percentage of cans and bottles actually are recycled as
opposed to just tossed. It's picked up at the curb.

I don't know what the logistics are for people to turn in bottles
for a refund. When I was a kid in NYC, and that was a looong
time ago, the store would have to have a place to store them.

> Most of our plastic bottles have something like "5 cent
> refund in Michigan, California, and NY" printed on the
> labels. (I made up the states but I'm pretty sure
> California is one of those that does still require grocers
> or recycling stations to refund.)

I wonder how 'green' it is to have people driving their empty
bottles around to get their nickel back at some recycle station.

nancy

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On Tue 31 Mar 2009 08:24:49p, phil..c told us...

> Pete C. wrote:
>> "phil..c" wrote:
>>> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
>>> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>>>
>>> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
>>> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
>>> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>>>
>>> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
>>> Cheers
>>> P
>>
>> It varies from state to state.
> can you indicate which states in USA have it please
>

You might find it somewhere on the Internet, but I think it would be
difficult for anyone here to give you a definitive answer. There are 50
states in the US. Some states have no bottle deposits and some do. In
addition, it depends, by state, as to which kinds of beverages and bottles
have deposits. There is currently legislation pending in various states
that would increase the scope of what type of bottles should have deposits.
There are differences between bottles containing carbonated and non-
carbonated beverages, as well as bottle material; e.g., glass or plastic.

--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

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"phil..c" > wrote in message
...
> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>
> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>
>
> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
> Cheers
> P

NY collects a 5¢ deposit on most plastic and aluminum drink containers...
the NY landscape is a lot cleaner than those states who dont. Years ago NY
had the bottle deposit system but then for years it ceased. When they
stopped the deposit bottle system for a number of years the landsape became
a pig pen, I'm very glad they brought it back.

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On Mar 31, 11:05*pm, "phil..c" > wrote:
> In the states do they have *deposits on returnable containers
> such as drink bottles * large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>
> Here in oz only one state *(SA) *has such
> it appears I have been *drafted to a committee for our state to
> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>
> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes

Michigan has a 10-cent deposit on carbonated soda, beer and
beer-like beverages, and those malt-based things like Zima
and Mike's Hard Lemonade. Cans, glass bottles, and
plastic bottles, all 10 cents, no matter the size. We've had
the deposit law since about 1978, give or take a year. The
deposit is refunded wherever such beverages are sold. Most
sellers won't redeem bottles for things that they don't sell,
although some will take bottles in sizes they don't sell for
brands they do sell.

We've been talking about extending it to water, juice, and stuff
like iced tea, but so far no action. Shoot, we can't even
get those criminals in the capital to outlaw smoking in
restaurants.

Cindy Hamilton

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phil..c wrote:
> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>
> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>
>
> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
> Cheers


In this part of Ontario Canada there are no deposits on soft drink
plastic and cans. There are not many soft drinks sold in bottles any
more. Beer bottles were always returnable and cans have been for the
last 20 years or so. This year they started charging deposit on wine
and liquor bottles. We have recycling for paper, cardboard and
plastics, and green garbage goes into the compost bin.

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Puester wrote:
>
> In my experience it depends on the state. When I was a kid most glass
> bottles for beverages had a deposit which was returned when the bottle
> was returned. They were refilled and reused. Other glass was not.
> Now in most places both glass and plastic can be recycled. Some
> places pay by weight, others offer the service without
> payment.

In the Mexican towns on the Texas border, they reused their old soft
drink bottles until they were in terrible shape. I did not notice that
in other Mexican towns, so I hope that has stopped.


Becca

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"phil..c" > wrote in message
...
> Pete C. wrote:
>> "phil..c" wrote:
>>> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
>>> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>>>
>>> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
>>> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
>>> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>>>
>>> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
>>> Cheers
>>> P
>>
>> It varies from state to state.
> can you indicate which states in USA have it please
I 'think' Oregon, Washington(state) and California.
Janet

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Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "phil..c" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pete C. wrote:
>>> "phil..c" wrote:
>>>> In the states do they have deposits on returnable containers
>>>> such as drink bottles large glass and recyclable plastic containers ?
>>>>
>>>> Here in oz only one state (SA) has such
>>>> it appears I have been drafted to a committee for our state to
>>>> investigate reintroduction of such a plan.
>>>>
>>>> The more I look into it the more sense it at first look makes
>>>> Cheers
>>>> P
>>> It varies from state to state.
>> can you indicate which states in USA have it please
> I 'think' Oregon, Washington(state) and California.
> Janet
>
>
Many thanks to those that gave the states that do have such a plan .
We had it here in the 60/s when I was at school in most states of oz


was an adjunct to pocket money and other earnings

for some reason in the 70/80s all but one state South Australia
gave the plan away. Now roadsides beaches public places are littered
with containers ranging from beer bottles,cans and Pet garbage.

A lot of Australia is regional and big city type roadside collection
recycling just too expensive to carry out.

However, with carbon footprint etc etc at least our state government
is re investigating the concept .

My task will be to work within a committee and do cost -v-benefit
analysis. Also document what other jurisdictions have in place and
report on their experiences. And come up with a set of recommendations
and if numbers come up procedures and infrastructure plan within a time
line to go to public debate . Then the minister/s may put to Parliament
a proposed act .

From initial investigations just one health issue alone (along with
other occupational health and safety relationships) concerns mosquitoes
( we have everything from Malaria, Dengue fever, Ross & Murray river
virus and a particularly new nasty just arrived of a mutated Asian
strain of Encephalitis.
Then there is the death to wild life because of garbage decreasing
landfill options etc

As a lot of flour and beans are starting to be packaged in plastics
along with other foods switching from cans to plastics (such as fruits)

The problem will compound over time.

Many thanks again for the input.
P


As an aside have a look at this walking garbage disposal species

http://www.craphound.com/images/giant-coconut-crab.jpg