Katz's Deli, NYC (Bourdain).

On his "No Reservations" TV show, Tony had a deli lunch with a local BUM!!!
at Katz's Deli in Manhattan, NY.

Tony, speaking through a mouthful of pastrami on rye asked his guest... "You
think this place will be around in 20 years?" To which his guest replied
"Yes!" I had to half-heartedly laugh, thinking, in 20 years, the regulars
won't be!

Looked great. Tony probably made it sound better thanks to his after the fact
narrations he is so famously noted/admired for!

Someday Katz's Deli will make it's way onto my Food Life List.

Best,

Andy

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Katz's Deli, NYC (Bourdain).
>
> On his "No Reservations" TV show, Tony had a deli lunch with a local
> BUM!!!
> at Katz's Deli in Manhattan, NY.
>
> Tony, speaking through a mouthful of pastrami on rye asked his guest...
> "You
> think this place will be around in 20 years?" To which his guest replied
> "Yes!" I had to half-heartedly laugh, thinking, in 20 years, the regulars
> won't be!
>
> Looked great. Tony probably made it sound better thanks to his after the
> fact
> narrations he is so famously noted/admired for!
>
> Someday Katz's Deli will make it's way onto my Food Life List.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Good show.

I want the Mutton Chop..:-)

Dimitri

Andy wrote:
> Katz's Deli, NYC (Bourdain).
>
> On his "No Reservations" TV show, Tony had a deli lunch with a local BUM!!!
> at Katz's Deli in Manhattan, NY.
>
> Tony, speaking through a mouthful of pastrami on rye asked his guest... "You
> think this place will be around in 20 years?" To which his guest replied
> "Yes!" I had to half-heartedly laugh, thinking, in 20 years, the regulars
> won't be!
>
> Looked great. Tony probably made it sound better thanks to his after the fact
> narrations he is so famously noted/admired for!
>
> Someday Katz's Deli will make it's way onto my Food Life List.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Were in Katz's Deli a few days before 9/11 ( *the* 9/11) Their rye bread
was horrid. It was like a beige Wonderbread. I asked the waiter why the
bread was not the traditional chewy, crusty rye and he said that they
use too much bread to be able to get it from a commercial bakery.

I can get decent corned beef and pastrami in a lot of major cities, but
the bread is never right. It's supposed to be right in New York City,
but Katz's had it all wrong. I'll not go back there again.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Were in Katz's Deli a few days before 9/11 ( *the* 9/11) Their rye
> bread was horrid. It was like a beige Wonderbread. I asked the waiter
> why the bread was not the traditional chewy, crusty rye and he said
> that they use too much bread to be able to get it from a commercial
> bakery.
>
> I can get decent corned beef and pastrami in a lot of major cities,
> but the bread is never right. It's supposed to be right in New York
> City, but Katz's had it all wrong. I'll not go back there again.

My husband's family has been going to Katz's since before he was born,
so we always go to Katz's. We have not noticed a problem with the rye
bread while we were there, I hope the problem was temporary. We might
be visiting the city in August.

Becca

Becca wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Were in Katz's Deli a few days before 9/11 ( *the* 9/11) Their rye
>> bread was horrid. It was like a beige Wonderbread. I asked the waiter
>> why the bread was not the traditional chewy, crusty rye and he said
>> that they use too much bread to be able to get it from a commercial
>> bakery.
>>
>> I can get decent corned beef and pastrami in a lot of major cities,
>> but the bread is never right. It's supposed to be right in New York
>> City, but Katz's had it all wrong. I'll not go back there again.
>
> My husband's family has been going to Katz's since before he was born,
> so we always go to Katz's. We have not noticed a problem with the rye
> bread while we were there, I hope the problem was temporary. We might
> be visiting the city in August.
> Becca

Don't know, Becca. There was some discussion recently on Travelzine
about the poor quality of the rye bread so I am assuming that it still
exists. From what I understand Pechter's bakery, who made the rye for
most of the delis in the NYC Metro is still in business. My late father
was the kosher supervisor at the bakery in Harrison, NJ, but he retired
in the mid 1990's and passed away in 2000, but I believe the bakery
still provides bread to supermarkets and delis in the metro area. I
could not understand why Katz's didn't get their bread from Pechter's.

Pechter's had the sour dough that "made" the bread. Good "Jewish" rye is
a sour dough rye. Whatever Katz's was serving was not. It was soft and
mushy. A good quality sour dough rye is needed to withstand the cole
slaw and Russian dressing that come with my idea of a corned beef
sandwich. Such a sandwich is my "soul food."

If I were going to Katz's Deli today, I'd pick up a rye bread at either
Shop Rite of Waldbaums (are they still in business???) and transfer my
meat to the good bread.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Don't know, Becca. There was some discussion recently on Travelzine
> about the poor quality of the rye bread so I am assuming that it still
> exists. From what I understand Pechter's bakery, who made the rye for
> most of the delis in the NYC Metro is still in business. My late
> father was the kosher supervisor at the bakery in Harrison, NJ, but he
> retired in the mid 1990's and passed away in 2000, but I believe the
> bakery still provides bread to supermarkets and delis in the metro
> area. I could not understand why Katz's didn't get their bread from
> Pechter's.
>
> Pechter's had the sour dough that "made" the bread. Good "Jewish" rye
> is a sour dough rye. Whatever Katz's was serving was not. It was soft
> and mushy. A good quality sour dough rye is needed to withstand the
> cole slaw and Russian dressing that come with my idea of a corned beef
> sandwich. Such a sandwich is my "soul food."
>
> If I were going to Katz's Deli today, I'd pick up a rye bread at
> either Shop Rite of Waldbaums (are they still in business???) and
> transfer my meat to the good bread.
>

Thanks for sharing the info about your dad, and I am sorry to hear he is
no longer with us. Waldbaums is still here, they have stores in the city
and on Long Island. I will buy some rye bread while I am there. My
husband is gluten intolerant, but he can have rye bread.

Becca

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:46:22 -0600, Becca > wrote:

>Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Don't know, Becca. There was some discussion recently on Travelzine
>> about the poor quality of the rye bread so I am assuming that it still
>> exists. From what I understand Pechter's bakery, who made the rye for
>> most of the delis in the NYC Metro is still in business. My late
>> father was the kosher supervisor at the bakery in Harrison, NJ, but he
>> retired in the mid 1990's and passed away in 2000, but I believe the
>> bakery still provides bread to supermarkets and delis in the metro
>> area. I could not understand why Katz's didn't get their bread from
>> Pechter's.
>>
>> Pechter's had the sour dough that "made" the bread. Good "Jewish" rye
>> is a sour dough rye. Whatever Katz's was serving was not. It was soft
>> and mushy. A good quality sour dough rye is needed to withstand the
>> cole slaw and Russian dressing that come with my idea of a corned beef
>> sandwich. Such a sandwich is my "soul food."
>>
>> If I were going to Katz's Deli today, I'd pick up a rye bread at
>> either Shop Rite of Waldbaums (are they still in business???) and
>> transfer my meat to the good bread.
>>
>
>Thanks for sharing the info about your dad, and I am sorry to hear he is
>no longer with us. Waldbaums is still here, they have stores in the city
>and on Long Island. I will buy some rye bread while I am there. My
>husband is gluten intolerant, but he can have rye bread.
>
>Becca

Becca,

I thought I was gluten intolerant too and the last meal I had before
the blood test was at the Carnegie Deli, which I had been dying to go
to for years but never did. The test was negative and the corned
beef, pastrami and rye were great.

My stomach problems seemed to be coming from too much Columbia Supremo
Eight O'clock coffee, Smart Balance spread (Lactose Intolerant),
glucosimine/chondroiton/msm pills and my own terrific homemade
coleslaw. Now, I stopped the coffee, I am using Fleischman's
Margarine, no more coleslaw and I've been fine. I need those pills
for my knees or I'll have to give up tennis.

I'm sure you know of all the breads you can get at Whole Foods, online
and you can make your own but they take some getting used to.

Alan

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:48:12 -0600, Andy > wrote:

>Katz's Deli, NYC (Bourdain).
>
>On his "No Reservations" TV show, Tony had a deli lunch with a local BUM!!!
>at Katz's Deli in Manhattan, NY.
>
>Tony, speaking through a mouthful of pastrami on rye asked his guest... "You
>think this place will be around in 20 years?" To which his guest replied
>"Yes!" I had to half-heartedly laugh, thinking, in 20 years, the regulars
>won't be!
>
>Looked great. Tony probably made it sound better thanks to his after the fact
>narrations he is so famously noted/admired for!
>
>Someday Katz's Deli will make it's way onto my Food Life List.
>
I love Katz's (one sandwich is enough food to fill up two
Californians). I was just speaking about Katz's yesterday with my
exSIL (the one who moved to Midtown Manhattan 20+ years ago). She
says she's glad they stay open until 3AM, because if she's parking the
car late at night she often swings by there to get a sandwich for her
and her husband to share.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:48:12 -0600, Andy > fired up random
neurons and synapses to opine:

>Katz's Deli, NYC (Bourdain).
>
>On his "No Reservations" TV show, Tony had a deli lunch with a local BUM!!!
>at Katz's Deli in Manhattan, NY.

<snippidy>

Stan Horowitz, Curly Sue and some of the other NYC gang met the DH and
me at Katz' once. My pastrami on rye was really, really excellent, but
I've been subjected to Orange County delis for so long that my
judgment might be off.

OTOH, as Margaret Suran put it at the time, Katz' has all the ambience
of a soup kitchen :-) And there's a bit sign over the table where
"Harry Met Sally."


Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

>Stan Horowitz, Curly Sue and some of the other NYC gang met the DH and
>me at Katz' once. My pastrami on rye was really, really excellent, but
>I've been subjected to Orange County delis for so long that my
>judgment might be off.

>OTOH, as Margaret Suran put it at the time, Katz' has all the ambience
>of a soup kitchen :-)

I wonder if they still use meal tickets?

Steve

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
>>Stan Horowitz, Curly Sue and some of the other NYC gang met the DH and
>>me at Katz' once. My pastrami on rye was really, really excellent, but
>>I've been subjected to Orange County delis for so long that my
>>judgment might be off.
>
>>OTOH, as Margaret Suran put it at the time, Katz' has all the ambience
>>of a soup kitchen :-)
>
> I wonder if they still use meal tickets?
>
> Steve

They did when we were there 2 years ago. The food was great. The ambiance
was seedy but made me nostalgic for the way Jewish deli's were in Philly
when I was a kid.

We hit 3 Deli's that week. Katz', Stage Door and 2nd Street. I'd go back to
Katz' and 2nd Street. Stage Door was just a tourist trap.

Jon

Zeppo said...

>
> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>>
>>>Stan Horowitz, Curly Sue and some of the other NYC gang met the DH and
>>>me at Katz' once. My pastrami on rye was really, really excellent, but
>>>I've been subjected to Orange County delis for so long that my
>>>judgment might be off.
>>
>>>OTOH, as Margaret Suran put it at the time, Katz' has all the ambience
>>>of a soup kitchen :-)
>>
>> I wonder if they still use meal tickets?
>>
>> Steve
>
> They did when we were there 2 years ago. The food was great. The
> ambiance was seedy but made me nostalgic for the way Jewish deli's were
> in Philly when I was a kid.
>
> We hit 3 Deli's that week. Katz', Stage Door and 2nd Street. I'd go back
> to Katz' and 2nd Street. Stage Door was just a tourist trap.
>
> Jon


NYC is THE greatest tourist trap!

Arts/music/theater/leisure and everything else is like no other place on
earth!

I'd live there if I was willing to relinquish my solitude in the woods of
Pennsylvania.

Excepting the fast paced ("New York Minute") lifestyle, we should all live
there! Commute out to the burbs for 9-5! LOL!

Andy

On Mar 3, 9:00 am, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> We hit 3 Deli's that week. Katz', Stage Door and 2nd Street. I'd go back to
> Katz' and 2nd Street. Stage Door was just a tourist trap.

How does Carnegie Deli measure up to these three? Anybody?

Leo

LeoS > wrote:

>On Mar 3, 9:00 am, "Zeppo" > wrote:

>> We hit 3 Deli's that week. Katz', Stage Door and 2nd Street.
>> I'd go back to Katz' and 2nd Street. Stage Door was just a
>> tourist trap.

>How does Carnegie Deli measure up to these three? Anybody?

IMO, Carnegie does not measure up to 2nd Street. Stage Deli
(not Stage Door) is in a similar class as Carengie Deli.
Stage Door Deli, if I recall correctly, is closer to being a
diner than a deli.

Steve

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:20:22 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>OTOH, as Margaret Suran put it at the time, Katz' has all the ambience
>of a soup kitchen :-)

I've never been to a soup kitchen - does she say soup kitchen because
the room is so big? I would say "cafeteria"... and deli would be a
close second. Oh, wait - it *is* a deli!


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On 03 Mar 2009 14:16:43 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote:

>Terry Pulliam Burd >
>news >
>> On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:48:12 -0600, Andy > fired up random
>> neurons and synapses to opine:
>>
>>>Katz's Deli, NYC (Bourdain).
>>>
>>>On his "No Reservations" TV show, Tony had a deli lunch with a local
>>>BUM!!! at Katz's Deli in Manhattan, NY.
>>
>> <snippidy>
>>
>> Stan Horowitz, Curly Sue and some of the other NYC gang met the DH and
>> me at Katz' once. My pastrami on rye was really, really excellent, but
>> I've been subjected to Orange County delis for so long that my
>> judgment might be off.
>>
>> OTOH, as Margaret Suran put it at the time, Katz' has all the ambience
>> of a soup kitchen :-) And there's a bit sign over the table where
>> "Harry Met Sally."
>>
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
>Speaking of Margaret, I talked to her on the telephone yesterday.
>Apparently they had not gotten the "big snow" that was predicted. She said
>they got maybe 2 inches but it was beginning to snow again when we talked.
>We didn't get a chance to talk much as she was busy. I wanted to see if
>she had been to the 2nd Avenue Deli lately and how it was going there.
>Maybe I'll see for myself in the late spring or early summer.
>
>Michael


Ah, Margaret spoke too soon. Central Park recorded 6.5 inches of snow
yesterday. We got 10 inches of it in Northern NJ.

If you come to the city and go deli hopping, let me know, please.

Boron

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:24 -0500, Boron Elgar
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>Ah, Margaret spoke too soon. Central Park recorded 6.5 inches of snow
>yesterday. We got 10 inches of it in Northern NJ.

Drat! Guess I'll have to pull the walkin' shoes out of the suitcase
and swap 'em for boots!
>
>If you come to the city and go deli hopping, let me know, please.

We'll be there Thursday night through Monday. I'm going to try to get
hold of Margaret tomorrow to see about a Friday lunch. We'll visit
Kristen's art show on Saturday - we also want to catch Southside
Johnny and the Asbury Jukes at BB King's on Saturday night, then we'll
be in New Jersey on Sunday to visit some family (Maplewood). Would
love to see you guys.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:27:20 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:24 -0500, Boron Elgar
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
>opine:
>
>>Ah, Margaret spoke too soon. Central Park recorded 6.5 inches of snow
>>yesterday. We got 10 inches of it in Northern NJ.
>
>Drat! Guess I'll have to pull the walkin' shoes out of the suitcase
>and swap 'em for boots!

You'll be fine in the city. Few, if any traces will remain. Walking
shoes will be perfect.

Here is the Manhattan weather forecast:

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...Select=WEATHER
>>
>>If you come to the city and go deli hopping, let me know, please.
>
>We'll be there Thursday night through Monday. I'm going to try to get
>hold of Margaret tomorrow to see about a Friday lunch. We'll visit
>Kristen's art show on Saturday - we also want to catch Southside
>Johnny and the Asbury Jukes at BB King's on Saturday night, then we'll
>be in New Jersey on Sunday to visit some family (Maplewood). Would
>love to see you guys.

And we'd love to see the two of you, but the only time we'd be able to
make it into the city would be Saturday. Eeek! Maybe we could try to
come to the show, if it's open to the public. I'd love to see Kirsten
again, too - a lovelier daughter I never did meet.

You won't recognize me. I'm down to a size 6.
>
>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Boron

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:20:45 -0500, Boron Elgar
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

<snip>

>And we'd love to see the two of you, but the only time we'd be able to
>make it into the city would be Saturday. Eeek! Maybe we could try to
>come to the show, if it's open to the public. I'd love to see Kirsten
>again, too - a lovelier daughter I never did meet.

It is open to the public - Lincoln Center. Some very weird
"installation" to this west coast girl. I'm sure my artsy daughter can
explain it to me :-)

Takin' it to email. TTYL.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:27:20 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:24 -0500, Boron Elgar
> > fired up random neurons and synapses to
> opine:
>
>>Ah, Margaret spoke too soon. Central Park recorded 6.5 inches of snow
>>yesterday. We got 10 inches of it in Northern NJ.
>
> Drat! Guess I'll have to pull the walkin' shoes out of the suitcase
> and swap 'em for boots!
>>
>>If you come to the city and go deli hopping, let me know, please.
>
> We'll be there Thursday night through Monday. I'm going to try to get
> hold of Margaret tomorrow to see about a Friday lunch. We'll visit
> Kristen's art show on Saturday - we also want to catch Southside
> Johnny and the Asbury Jukes at BB King's on Saturday night, then we'll
> be in New Jersey on Sunday to visit some family (Maplewood). Would
> love to see you guys.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

ooh, i like southside. make the boss look sick, in my opinion.

your pal,
blake

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:24 -0500, Boron Elgar
> > fired up random neurons and synapses to
> opine:
>
>> Ah, Margaret spoke too soon. Central Park recorded 6.5 inches of snow
>> yesterday. We got 10 inches of it in Northern NJ.
>
> Drat! Guess I'll have to pull the walkin' shoes out of the suitcase
> and swap 'em for boots!
>> If you come to the city and go deli hopping, let me know, please.
>
> We'll be there Thursday night through Monday. I'm going to try to get
> hold of Margaret tomorrow to see about a Friday lunch. We'll visit
> Kristen's art show on Saturday - we also want to catch Southside
> Johnny and the Asbury Jukes at BB King's on Saturday night, then we'll
> be in New Jersey on Sunday to visit some family (Maplewood). Would
> love to see you guys.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>

You should take this to email or your stalkers might chase you again.

-dk

On 03 Mar 2009 14:16:43 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>Speaking of Margaret, I talked to her on the telephone yesterday.
>Apparently they had not gotten the "big snow" that was predicted. She said
>they got maybe 2 inches but it was beginning to snow again when we talked.
>We didn't get a chance to talk much as she was busy. I wanted to see if
>she had been to the 2nd Avenue Deli lately and how it was going there.
>Maybe I'll see for myself in the late spring or early summer.

I'll have to give her a shout. The DH and I decided at the last minute
to go to NYC this weekend for the daughter's art show at Lincoln
Center, although "art show" might be a bit grandiose for what she
keeps refering to as an "installation." Maybe get Margaret to meet us
for lunch at the 2nd Ave. Deli - the last time I was there with
Margaret it was actually *on* 2nd Ave.

And I'm happy to hear about the non-event snow!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Mar 3, 8:22*pm, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> On 03 Mar 2009 14:16:43 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> > fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
> >Speaking of Margaret, I talked to her on the telephone yesterday.
> >Apparently they had not gotten the "big snow" that was predicted. *She said
> >they got maybe 2 inches but it was beginning to snow again when we talked.
> >We didn't get a chance to talk much as she was busy. *I wanted to see if
> >she had been to the 2nd Avenue Deli lately and how it was going there.
> >Maybe I'll see for myself in the late spring or early summer.
>
> I'll have to give her a shout. The DH and I decided at the last minute
> to go to NYC this weekend for the daughter's art show at Lincoln
> Center, although "art show" might be a bit grandiose for what she
> keeps refering to as an "installation." Maybe get Margaret to meet us
> for lunch at the 2nd Ave. Deli - the last time I was there with
> Margaret it was actually *on* 2nd Ave.
>
> And I'm happy to hear about the non-event snow!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
> old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
> waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
>
> - Duncan Hines
>
> To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Sounds like you have genuine bragging rights for your daughter.
Lincoln Center is not chopped liver! I know because my daughter sang
there at Carnegie Hall. One must "schep naches" whenever and wherever
one can!
;-)
PS How IS the chopped liver at Katz's?

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:19:29 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig
> wrote:

>PS How IS the chopped liver at Katz's?

If it's anything like homemade, it's fantastic.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West