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Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew

Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
By ConsumerReports.org

Folgers, Maxwell House, and Starbucks are America's best-selling ground
coffees. But all three were iced by Eight O'Clock Colombian coffee in our
taste tests. As for Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top regular
coffees and trailed among decafs.

Our tests of 19 coffees also show that some of the best cost the least. At
about $6 per pound, Eight O'Clock costs less than half the price of Gloria
Jean's, Peet's, and other more expensive brands.

Like your joe without all the caffeine? Dunkin' Donuts and Millstone were
the front runners among the decafs. But Folgers Gourmet Selection Lively
Colombian came in close behind and costs up to $3 less per pound. But even
the best decaffeinated coffees couldn't match the best regular brews in our
taste tests.


What we tasted

Our coffee experts focused on 100 percent Colombian - a best-selling bean -
for regular coffee. Most of our decaffeinated coffees are a blend of
different beans.

What makes a great cup of Colombian? Lots of aroma and flavor, some floral
notes and fruitiness, a touch of bitterness, and enough body to provide a
feeling of fullness in the mouth. Woody, papery, or burnt tastes are
off-notes.

Weeks of sipping and swirling confirmed that even 100 percent Colombian
coffee and its Juan Valdez logo don't guarantee quality. Our trained testers
unearthed other surprises:


Still so-so after all these years

Chock full o'Nuts and Maxwell House have pushed coffee that's "heavenly" and
"good to the last drop" since 1932 and 1907, respectively. But off-notes,
little complexity, and, for Chock full o' Nuts, variable quality put both
behind Eight O'Clock.


When boutique isn't better

Midwest-based Caribou and Kickapoo beat an array of larger players among
regular coffees. But Bucks County Coffee, from Langhorne, Penn., tasted only
OK, and Peet's, from Berkeley, Calif., was burnt and bitter, despite costing
$14 per pound. Peet's, Archer Farms, and Kickapoo also varied from batch to
batch.


Caffeine differences

None of our decaffeinated coffees had more than 5 milligrams of caffeine per
6-ounce serving. But among regular coffees, Caribou and Bucks County had
roughly four times the caffeine (195 milligrams) of some of the lowest-level
brews. Medical experts say up to 600 milligrams per day is probably safe for
most and can help keep you alert. But heart patients and women who are
pregnant or nursing should stay below 200 milligrams, which might mean
sidestepping those brands among the caffeinated coffees we tested.


How to choose

Several of our top coffees could save you $25 to $70 per year over pricier
brands even if you drank just one 6-ounce cup per day. Here's what else to
think about:


Consider how you take it

Coffees judged very good taste fine black. Milk and sugar can improve a
mediocre coffee, but not even cream is likely to help the lowest-scoring
decafs.


Choose a good coffeemaker

The best coffeemakers from our January report reached the 195º to 205º F
required to get the best from the beans and avoid a weak or bitter brew. A
top Michael Graves model costs just $40.


Consider grinding for fresher flavor

Even the best pre-ground coffee can't beat the best fresh-ground when it
comes to taste. One top grinder from our January report, the Mr. Coffee
IDS77, costs only $20.


For full access to ratings and recommendations of appliances, cars & trucks,
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/s...cks-the-best-c
>
> Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew
>
> Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
> By ConsumerReports.org
>
> Folgers, Maxwell House, and Starbucks are America's best-selling ground
> coffees. But all three were iced by Eight O'Clock Colombian coffee in our
> taste tests. As for Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top regular
> coffees and trailed among decafs.
>
> Our tests of 19 coffees also show that some of the best cost the least. At
> about $6 per pound, Eight O'Clock costs less than half the price of Gloria
> Jean's, Peet's, and other more expensive brands.



Our Albertson's has EIght O'Clocj on sale thie week for something like
$4.99 for 12 oz. I bought some whole bean to try in our espresso maker.
I'll let you know tomorrow morning how it does.

We have been using "Lavazza SUper Crema" and I really liked it, The
last bag I tried was some whole bean stuff from Costco (yellow bag,
can't remember the brand) and it was harsh but drinkable. Ick.

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Gloria wrote on Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:45:27 -0700:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/s...cks-the-best-c
>>
>> Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew
>>
>> Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
>> By ConsumerReports.org
>>
>> Folgers, Maxwell House, and Starbucks are America's
>> best-selling ground coffees. But all three were iced by Eight
>> O'Clock Colombian coffee in our taste tests. As for
>> Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top regular coffees
>> and trailed among decafs.
>>
>> Our tests of 19 coffees also show that some of the best cost the
>> least. At about $6 per pound, Eight O'Clock costs less
>> than half the price of Gloria Jean's, Peet's, and other more
>> expensive brands.


> Our Albertson's has EIght O'Clocj on sale thie week for
> something like $4.99 for 12 oz. I bought some whole bean to
> try in our espresso maker. I'll let you know tomorrow morning how it
> does.


> We have been using "Lavazza SUper Crema" and I really liked
> it, The last bag I tried was some whole bean stuff from
> Costco (yellow bag, can't remember the brand) and it was harsh
> but drinkable. Ick.


There are quite a lot of drinkable coffees at Trader Joes even if the
prices seem to be $4.99 up for 12oz. I buy the unground beans, freeze
them and grind as necessary. You don't have to defrost coffee beans and
they do keep better when frozen.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:24:34 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/s...cks-the-best-c
>
>Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew
>
>Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
>By ConsumerReports.org


I would just like to step in and add that the best KONA coffee can be
found at www.smithfarms.com. Our very own Cea will mail them out to
you, personally. Excellent coffee. It's not a blend, it's pure Kona.

Carol, who was not paid to make this announcement

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:59:04 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>You don't have to defrost coffee beans and
>they do keep better when frozen.


Hi James,

For years, I thought freezing was best for storing coffee
beans, but now I see that most of the coffee experts say
that room temperature is the way to go (with the beans well
sealed.)

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Kenneth wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> For years, I thought freezing was best for storing coffee
> beans, but now I see that most of the coffee experts say
> that room temperature is the way to go (with the beans well
> sealed.)


I was going to say the same thing. I don't freeze beans anymore.

This link pretty much sums up what I think:

http://www.nilevalleyherbs.com/nilei...age_Myths.html

Of course, YMMV.

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>Our Albertson's has EIght O'Clocj on sale thie week for something like
>$4.99 for 12 oz. I bought some whole bean to try in our espresso maker.
>I'll let you know tomorrow morning how it does.


The only coffee that I buy now is Eight O'Clock whole bean Italian
Roast is a purple bag, 4.99 a bag. It is the best coffee and I have
bought EVERY brand in the stores.

Also, it is available on line at

http://www.theconsumerlink.com/Eight...darkitalian/13




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"Gloria P" ha scritto nel messaggio > Gregory Morrow wrote:

.. But all three were iced by Eight O'Clock Colombian coffee in our
>> taste tests. As for Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top
>> regular>> coffees and trailed among decafs.


> Our Albertson's has EIght O'Clocj on sale thie week for something like
> $4.99 for 12 oz. I bought some whole bean to try in our espresso maker.


You have to be much more careful when pressing the coffee into the container
when it is freshly ground, because it foams much more. Try it in a French
press and you'll see what I mean. Eight o'Clock will be way mild for
espresso, but it may be good.
I bought it for the last however many years I was there and people often
bring me some when they come to visit.
I despise Starbucks! Burnt.


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I think the best buy in coffee is Kirkland 100% Columbian for less
than $9.00 for a 3 lb can. Its available at Costco.

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Kenneth wrote on Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:04:50 -0500:

>> You don't have to defrost coffee beans and
>> they do keep better when frozen.


> Hi James,


> For years, I thought freezing was best for storing coffee
> beans, but now I see that most of the coffee experts say
> that room temperature is the way to go (with the beans well
> sealed.)


I might believe those "experts" on vacuum sealed coffee beans as often
bought in stores but it is my personal experience is that, once a can is
opened, the beans keep their flavor better when frozen.

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James Silverton wrote:
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> Kenneth wrote on Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:04:50 -0500:
>
> >> You don't have to defrost coffee beans and
> >> they do keep better when frozen.

>
> > Hi James,

>
> > For years, I thought freezing was best for storing coffee
> > beans, but now I see that most of the coffee experts say
> > that room temperature is the way to go (with the beans well
> > sealed.)

>
> I might believe those "experts" on vacuum sealed coffee beans as often
> bought in stores but it is my personal experience is that, once a can is
> opened, the beans keep their flavor better when frozen.


After opening, the beans should be transferred to quart sized canning
jars, re-vac sealed after each use using the Foodsaver jar sealer
accessory, and stored at room temperature.
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:24:34 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/s...cks-the-best-c
>
>Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew
>
>Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
>By ConsumerReports.org
>
>Folgers, Maxwell House, and Starbucks are America's best-selling ground
>coffees. But all three were iced by Eight O'Clock Colombian coffee in our
>taste tests. As for Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top regular
>coffees and trailed among decafs.


I've always been happy with Eight O'Clock French Roast. We're on a
monthly cycle with Boca Java and occasionally run out so we'll fill in
with Eight O'Clock. If you want a good cup of coffee Boca Java is
much better, but almost 3 times the price. My favorite is Light Up
Las Olas dark roast. It's $7.50 for a half pound plus shipping.

http://catalog.bocajava.com/coffee/coffee

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Pete wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:57:44 -0600:


> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> Kenneth wrote on Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:04:50 -0500:
>>
> >>> You don't have to defrost coffee beans and
> >>> they do keep better when frozen.

>>
> >> Hi James,

>>
> >> For years, I thought freezing was best for storing coffee
> >> beans, but now I see that most of the coffee experts say
> >> that room temperature is the way to go (with the beans well
> >> sealed.)

>>
>> I might believe those "experts" on vacuum sealed coffee beans
>> as often bought in stores but it is my personal experience is
>> that, once a can is opened, the beans keep their flavor
>> better when frozen.


Much too much trouble for little efect, IMHO!

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On Feb 5, 6:24*pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/s.../consumer-repo...
>
> Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew
>
> Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
> By ConsumerReports.org
>
> Folgers, Maxwell House, and Starbucks are America's best-selling ground
> coffees. But all three were iced by Eight O'Clock Colombian coffee in our
> taste tests. As for Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top regular
> coffees and trailed among decafs.
>
> Our tests of 19 coffees also show that some of the best cost the least. At
> about $6 per pound, Eight O'Clock costs less than half the price of Gloria
> Jean's, Peet's, and other more expensive brands.


my DH prefers Autocrat coffee. He tasted it first on a plant tour for
a class in Industrial something-or-other, and came home telling me it
was the only coffee we would serve from now on. It's relatively
inexpensive ($2.79 for a 13 oz can last night at the nearby pharmacy),
and locally roasted and canned.

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Bruce K. wrote:

> I think the best buy in coffee is Kirkland 100% Columbian for less
> than $9.00 for a 3 lb can. Its available at Costco.


Their Sumatran French Roast is damn fine too at $11.99 for a 3 lb. bag.
I have some brewing now!

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> After opening, the beans should be transferred to quart sized canning
> jars, re-vac sealed after each use using the Foodsaver jar sealer
> accessory, and stored at room temperature.


Ah! Great idea! Though I grind beans in batches to last for three or
four days (I hate our Braun grinder). As much coffee as I drink,
re-sealing a canister that often is an extra step I might get burned out
on doing, like using the frickin' grinder. Maybe it's the noise. Oh, my
sensitive ears! I have to have quiet till I'm good and caffeinated.

I do have a FoodSaver with all the canister attachments -- just no
canisters. I'll think about getting some ....

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:12:56 -0500 in rec.food.cooking, Bruce K.
> wrote,
>I think the best buy in coffee is Kirkland 100% Columbian for less
>than $9.00 for a 3 lb can. Its available at Costco.


How many ounces are there in a 3 lb can these days?



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> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:12:56 -0500 in rec.food.cooking, Bruce K.
> > wrote,
>> I think the best buy in coffee is Kirkland 100% Columbian for less
>> than $9.00 for a 3 lb can. Its available at Costco.

>
> How many ounces are there in a 3 lb can these days?


It says 48.

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Mr. Bill wrote:

> The only coffee that I buy now is Eight O'Clock whole bean Italian
> Roast is a purple bag, 4.99 a bag. It is the best coffee and I have
> bought EVERY brand in the stores.
>
> Also, it is available on line at
>
> http://www.theconsumerlink.com/Eight...darkitalian/13
>
>
>
>

Thanks, I'll look for it next time I shop.

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Lin wrote:
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> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > After opening, the beans should be transferred to quart sized canning
> > jars, re-vac sealed after each use using the Foodsaver jar sealer
> > accessory, and stored at room temperature.

>
> Ah! Great idea! Though I grind beans in batches to last for three or
> four days (I hate our Braun grinder). As much coffee as I drink,
> re-sealing a canister that often is an extra step I might get burned out
> on doing, like using the frickin' grinder. Maybe it's the noise. Oh, my
> sensitive ears! I have to have quiet till I'm good and caffeinated.
>
> I do have a FoodSaver with all the canister attachments -- just no
> canisters. I'll think about getting some ....
>
> --Lin


The foodsaver is a good deal quieter than a grinder. You can also get a
pair of shooting muffs to wear when operating either. I wear shooting
muffs when operating my shop vac since it's dang loud.


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>pair of shooting muffs to wear when operating either.


damn....another kitchen gadget! <vbg>

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Pete wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:55:27 -0600:


> Lin wrote:
>>
>> Pete C. wrote:
>>
> >> After opening, the beans should be transferred to quart
> >> sized canning jars, re-vac sealed after each use using the
> >> Foodsaver jar sealer accessory, and stored at room
> >> temperature.

>>
>> Ah! Great idea! Though I grind beans in batches to last for
>> three or four days (I hate our Braun grinder). As much coffee
>> as I drink, re-sealing a canister that often is an extra step
>> I might get burned out on doing, like using the frickin'
>> grinder. Maybe it's the noise. Oh, my sensitive ears! I have
>> to have quiet till I'm good and caffeinated.
>>
>> I do have a FoodSaver with all the canister attachments --
>> just no canisters. I'll think about getting some ....



>The foodsaver is a good deal quieter than a grinder. You can also get a
>pair of shooting muffs to wear when operating either. I wear shooting
>muffs when operating my shop vac since it's dang loud.


I use a quite cheap Braun blade grinder and I don't find the noise
objectionable. It only takes a count of 80 for my preferred grind.

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Susan wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:28:31 -0500:

> James Silverton wrote:


>> I use a quite cheap Braun blade grinder and I don't find the noise
>> objectionable. It only takes a count of 80 for my
>> preferred grind.
>>

> But you're not getting a grind, you're getting chopped coffee.


> Big diff in uniformity and brewing quality.


> Burr grinders give you quality ground coffee.


I think you have been brainwashed. All that is needed is to break down
the beans sufficiently to allow extraction and I once had a burr
(millwheel) grinder and didn't notice any difference.

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> I use a quite cheap Braun blade grinder and I don't find the noise
> objectionable. It only takes a count of 80 for my preferred grind.


Ours is a Braun burr grinder. It's noisy. It does have a dial for
setting the amount of grind time, so I don't have to keep count. Lately
though, I've been having to shake it AS it grinds. For some reason it's
not grabbing the beans like it used to and it's taking longer to fill
the ground coffee receptacle. There are other reasons why I don't like
this grinder. Not sure what's better out there, so if you have
suggestions I'd be happy to look at them the day this thing finally dies
(I might give it a push along).

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>Susan



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Lin wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:01:02 -0800:

>> I use a quite cheap Braun blade grinder and I don't find the noise
>> objectionable. It only takes a count of 80 for my
>> preferred grind.


> Ours is a Braun burr grinder. It's noisy. It does have a dial for
> setting the amount of grind time, so I don't have to keep count.
> Lately though, I've been having to shake it AS it
> grinds. For some reason it's not grabbing the beans like it
> used to and it's taking longer to fill the ground coffee
> receptacle. There are other reasons why I don't like this
> grinder. Not sure what's better out there, so if you have suggestions
> I'd be happy to look at them the day this thing
> finally dies (I might give it a push along).


I forget and can't find the model number of the Braun but I think they
are available for about $20 around here. Cuisinart makes a very similar
one as does Sears. The very first one I used was made by Peugeot of
France (about 25 years ago). I have an old Salton of the same design
that I use for spices. All of them switch on by pressing on the lid and
are thus pretty safe to use. I did have a burr grinder that died like
yours but it was not the best of designs because it stored the beans
above the grinder and they tended to get warmed up by the mill.

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Susan wrote on Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:44:26 -0500:

> James Silverton wrote:
>> Lin wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:01:02 -0800:
>>
>>>> I use a quite cheap Braun blade grinder and I don't find
>>>> the noise objectionable. It only takes a count of 80 for my
>>>> preferred grind.

>>
>>> Ours is a Braun burr grinder. It's noisy. It does have a
>>> dial for setting the amount of grind time, so I don't have
>>> to keep count. Lately though, I've been having to shake it
>>> AS it grinds. For some reason it's not grabbing the beans
>>> like it used to and it's taking longer to fill the ground
>>> coffee receptacle. There are other reasons why I don't like this
>>> grinder. Not sure what's better out there, so if you
>>> have suggestions I'd be happy to look at them the day this
>>> thing finally dies (I might give it a push along).

>>
>> I forget and can't find the model number of the Braun but I
>> think they are available for about $20 around here. Cuisinart
>> makes a very similar one as does Sears. The very first one I used was
>> made by Peugeot of France (about 25 years ago). I
>> have an old Salton of the same design that I use for spices. All of
>> them switch on by pressing on the lid and are thus
>> pretty safe to use. I did have a burr grinder that died like yours
>> but it was not the best of designs because it stored
>> the beans above the grinder and they tended to get warmed up by the
>> mill.
>>

> With a burr grinder, you have to replace the burr itself
> periodically. In our case, that turned out to be every 6 mos. or so.
> A tip off is if the coffee is coarser and you can't
> get the grind you want. Another thing is that you have to
> brush it off regularly for it to work well.


A burr grinder strikes me as more trouble than it is worth but that's
personal.

Incidentally, like coffee beans, instant coffee keeps much better in the
freezer too. It does not absorb water and get sticky and keeps its
flavor better. I won't respond to denunciations about actually using the
stuff but it's very useful when you want a quick cup of coffee. Unlike
real coffee, I sometimes make instant coffee with 100% to 50% milk. You
can't really call it coffee but it's a pleasant occasional drink.

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James Silverton wrote:

> I forget and can't find the model number of the Braun but I think they
> are available for about $20 around here. Cuisinart makes a very similar
> one as does Sears. The very first one I used was made by Peugeot of
> France (about 25 years ago). I have an old Salton of the same design
> that I use for spices. All of them switch on by pressing on the lid and
> are thus pretty safe to use. I did have a burr grinder that died like
> yours but it was not the best of designs because it stored the beans
> above the grinder and they tended to get warmed up by the mill.


So, I'm sleepily making my pot of coffee and glare at the burr grinder
sitting in the corner. Then I notice ... it's a Bosch, not a Braun. And
guess what? Bosch doesn't make this particular model anymore. Just the
small blade type grinders.

Wondering if the poor design and noise (isn't Bosch known for engines
and car parts?) were the demise of this grinder.

Thanks for your suggestions! I know the next won't be Bosch! ;-)

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Susan wrote:

> Here's a place to start your hunt...
>
>> http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders


Thanks, Susan! I think that $425 Anfim at the top of the list is a bit
over overkill for what I need. ;-) I suppose it will last longer than my
Bosch.

Personally, I can't imagine a grinder over $100 for simple home use.

Saving the link for when my Bosch reaches its end of days.

--Lin (properly caffeinated now and off to the farmers market)
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Susan wrote on Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:41:58 -0500:

> James Silverton wrote:


>> A burr grinder strikes me as more trouble than it is worth
>> but that's personal.


> Yes, it is. It depends upon how much of a coffee geek you
> really are.


>> Incidentally, like coffee beans, instant coffee keeps much
>> better in the freezer too.


> Not so. Coffee shouldn't be stored in the freezer, though the
> fridge is ok. Instant coffee????! Never.


> It does not absorb water and get sticky and keeps its
>> flavor better. I won't respond to denunciations about
>> actually using the stuff but it's very useful when you want a
>> quick cup of coffee.


> Depends upon how much you care about the quality of your
> coffee. I find the stuff so unpalatable, I'd just rather go
> without. The same is true of all canned coffee, which is "pre
> staled" to keep the cans from exploding.


> Unlike
>> real coffee, I sometimes make instant coffee with 100% to 50%
>> milk. You can't really call it coffee but it's a pleasant
>> occasional drink.
>>

> Tweech his own. :-)


Why do I suspect that you've never tried for yourself and are relying on
"authorities"? :-)

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James Silverton wrote:

> Lin wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:01:02 -0800:
>
> >> I use a quite cheap Braun blade grinder and I don't find the noise
> >> objectionable. It only takes a count of 80 for my
> >> preferred grind.

>
> > Ours is a Braun burr grinder. It's noisy. It does have a dial for
> > setting the amount of grind time, so I don't have to keep count.
> > Lately though, I've been having to shake it AS it
> > grinds. For some reason it's not grabbing the beans like it
> > used to and it's taking longer to fill the ground coffee
> > receptacle. There are other reasons why I don't like this
> > grinder. Not sure what's better out there, so if you have suggestions
> > I'd be happy to look at them the day this thing
> > finally dies (I might give it a push along).

>
> I forget and can't find the model number of the Braun but I think they
> are available for about $20 around here. Cuisinart makes a very similar
> one as does Sears. The very first one I used was made by Peugeot of
> France (about 25 years ago). I have an old Salton of the same design
> that I use for spices. All of them switch on by pressing on the lid and
> are thus pretty safe to use.



For years I used such grinders but the noisiness of them *really* grates on
me so I gave mine away. I buy my coffee down the street in half - pound
lots and have them grind the beans for me in the store, that suits me fine.

I'm also a clean freak with limited counter space and the fussing with
keeping the grinder clean and finding a place to put it also were factors in
my putting the kibbosh on it...a plethora of seldom - used kitchen
appliances cluttering up the joint is simply not my bag.


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On Feb 6, 3:23*am, Mr. Bill > wrote:

> The only coffee that I buy now is Eight O'Clock whole bean Italian
> Roast is a purple bag, 4.99 a bag. * It is the best coffee and I have
> bought EVERY brand in the stores.
>

I agree that it's good coffee. To call any one "the best" seems
limiting to me. Coffees come from all over the world, every crop is
different, and they can be roasted and ground and brewed in great
variety. As long as places like TJ and World Markets offer many
inexpensive choices I will keep trying new ones. -aem
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:04:26 GMT in rec.food.cooking, "l, not -l"
> wrote,
>
>On 6-Feb-2009, David Harmon > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:12:56 -0500 in rec.food.cooking, Bruce K.
>> > wrote,
>> >I think the best buy in coffee is Kirkland 100% Columbian for less
>> >than $9.00 for a 3 lb can. Its available at Costco.

>>
>> How many ounces are there in a 3 lb can these days?

>
>Odd as it may seem, there are 48 oz in a 3 lb. can of Kirkland (Folger's
>too).


Not in the stores here, I am looking at a (plastic!) can of Folgers and
it's down to 33.3 oz.

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Susan replied to James:

>> Why do I suspect that you've never tried for yourself and are
>> relying on "authorities"? :-)

>
> Because you're a smug jerk? ;-)


Well, you *did* come across as a rather vacuum-headed twit in your writings
anent nonstick coatings. You never did provide a cite for any of your
claims, which appear to be backed by a complete misunderstanding of reports
about the manufacture of Teflon. So James has every reason to think poorly
of your opinion.

Bob

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James Silverton wrote:
> Gloria wrote on Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:45:27 -0700:
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>> http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/s...cks-the-best-c
>>>
>>>
>>> Consumer Reports Picks the Best Cup o' Brew
>>>
>>> Our top-rated Colombian coffee is also a CR Best Buy
>>> By ConsumerReports.org
>>>
>>> Folgers, Maxwell House, and Starbucks are America's
>>> best-selling ground coffees. But all three were iced by Eight
>>> O'Clock Colombian coffee in our taste tests. As for
>>> Starbucks, it didn't even place among the top regular coffees
>>> and trailed among decafs.
>>>
>>> Our tests of 19 coffees also show that some of the best cost the
>>> least. At about $6 per pound, Eight O'Clock costs less
>>> than half the price of Gloria Jean's, Peet's, and other more
>>> expensive brands.

>
>> Our Albertson's has EIght O'Clocj on sale thie week for
>> something like $4.99 for 12 oz. I bought some whole bean to
>> try in our espresso maker. I'll let you know tomorrow morning how it
>> does.

>
>> We have been using "Lavazza SUper Crema" and I really liked
>> it, The last bag I tried was some whole bean stuff from
>> Costco (yellow bag, can't remember the brand) and it was harsh
>> but drinkable. Ick.

>
> There are quite a lot of drinkable coffees at Trader Joes even if the
> prices seem to be $4.99 up for 12oz. I buy the unground beans, freeze
> them and grind as necessary. You don't have to defrost coffee beans and
> they do keep better when frozen.
>

My favorite at TJ's was the Mexican Pinon coffee. WAS is the
operative word, because they are no longer carrying it--here, anyway.

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Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:05:42 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>
>> My favorite at TJ's was the Mexican Pinon coffee. WAS is the
>> operative word, because they are no longer carrying it--here, anyway.

>
> It's from New Mexico. It's headquarters is right here. And the TJs
> here still carries it, I think. I don't pay too much attention, cause
> I can find it a lot of places here.
>
> Christine


Eeeek. I somehow forgot the "New" part--which I knew. Thanks for
correcting that and jogging my feeble memory.

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