General Cooking (rec.food.cooking) For general food and cooking discussion. Foods of all kinds, food procurement, cooking methods and techniques, eating, etc.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,380
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

http://www.recfoodcooking.com

Thanks go to Andy for this one.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
  #2 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,420
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this one.


Umm. I think I just won my first tin foil hat.

Tracy
  #3 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,651
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Tracy wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>
> Umm. I think I just won my first tin foil hat.


Thanks, Tracy, you beat me out. At least I never caused
a kitchen fire. Heh.

nancy
  #4 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,420
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Nancy Young wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>
>>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>>
>> Umm. I think I just won my first tin foil hat.

>
> Thanks, Tracy, you beat me out. At least I never caused
> a kitchen fire. Heh.
>
> nancy


Don't you already have one?? Would you begrudge me this small thing??
;-)

I have been looking over the selections and have decided that since it
is the holiday season I will go with #3.

-Tracy
  #5 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,651
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Tracy wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> Tracy wrote:
>>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>>
>>>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.
>>>
>>> Umm. I think I just won my first tin foil hat.

>>
>> Thanks, Tracy, you beat me out. At least I never caused
>> a kitchen fire. Heh.



> Don't you already have one?? Would you begrudge me this small thing??
> ;-)


Well ... no, since you put it that way.
>
> I have been looking over the selections and have decided that since it
> is the holiday season I will go with #3.


Lovely! I had no idea there were so many new and fabulous choices!
I need to work harder to win one.

nancy


  #6 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12,295
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Tracy said...

> I have been looking over the selections and have decided that since it
> is the holiday season I will go with #3.
>
> -Tracy



Tracy,

Congrats!

I was going to say "choose wisely" and indeed you have!

Best,

Andy
  #7 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,420
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Andy wrote:
> Tracy said...
>
>> I have been looking over the selections and have decided that since it
>> is the holiday season I will go with #3.
>>
>> -Tracy

>
>
> Tracy,
>
> Congrats!
>
> I was going to say "choose wisely" and indeed you have!
>


I would hate to have "chosen poorly". :-)

-Tracy
  #8 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,380
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Tracy wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>
> Umm. I think I just won my first tin foil hat.
>
> Tracy


It's yours!
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
  #9 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 36,804
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
2...
> Tracy > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>
>>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>>
>> Umm. I think I just won my first tin foil hat.
>>
>> Tracy

>
> I haven't won one in months but I think I have about a dozen or so of
> them.
> I think for this thread Cathy should offer up a tin foil Firefighter's
> helmet
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Christy's page at the caringbridge site:
>
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
>



That would be quite apropos

Jill

  #10 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,207
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

ChattyCathy wrote on Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:53:47 +0200:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com


> Thanks go to Andy for this one.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


I guess my "yes" answer to having one is a little inexact. The
extinguisher is on the garage wall just near the door that leads to the
kitchen. Can you test-fire extinguishers? I know how to use mine but
I've lost the instructions about refilling etc. Mine has a pressure
guage that currently indicates an allegedly adequate charge.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not



  #11 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 36,804
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> ChattyCathy wrote on Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:53:47 +0200:
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy

>
> I guess my "yes" answer to having one is a little inexact. The
> extinguisher is on the garage wall just near the door that leads to the
> kitchen. Can you test-fire extinguishers? I know how to use mine but I've
> lost the instructions about refilling etc. Mine has a pressure guage that
> currently indicates an allegedly adequate charge.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not



I just make sure the gauge reads fully pressurized. (Actually back home the
apartment manager sends someone around to check it the same time they change
out the smoke alarm batteries. Mom didn't have one anywhere near her
kitchen until I got here. Ditto the gauge thing. I've never (knock on
wood) had to use either one.

Jill

  #12 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?


jmcquown wrote:
>
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > ChattyCathy wrote on Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:53:47 +0200:
> >
> >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

> >
> >> Thanks go to Andy for this one.
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Chatty Cathy

> >
> > I guess my "yes" answer to having one is a little inexact. The
> > extinguisher is on the garage wall just near the door that leads to the
> > kitchen. Can you test-fire extinguishers? I know how to use mine but I've
> > lost the instructions about refilling etc. Mine has a pressure guage that
> > currently indicates an allegedly adequate charge.
> >
> > --
> >
> > James Silverton
> > Potomac, Maryland
> >
> > Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

>
> I just make sure the gauge reads fully pressurized. (Actually back home the
> apartment manager sends someone around to check it the same time they change
> out the smoke alarm batteries. Mom didn't have one anywhere near her
> kitchen until I got here. Ditto the gauge thing. I've never (knock on
> wood) had to use either one.
>
> Jill


No, you can not test fire a fire extinguisher. If you test fire it,
besides the obvious loss of capacity, the valve will not fully seal and
the remaining pressure will leak down to zero in short order.

Large fire extinguishers in commercial service do get annual inspections
and after some number of years they are serviced and recharged. Home
sized fire extinguishers are disposable and if the gauge reads below the
green you dispose of them and buy new ones.
  #13 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
Lin Lin is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 868
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Pete C. wrote:

> No, you can not test fire a fire extinguisher. If you test fire it,
> besides the obvious loss of capacity, the valve will not fully seal and
> the remaining pressure will leak down to zero in short order.


Admittedly, when I read that particular question in the poll I somehow
misread it and clicked on the "yes" for test firing. Not such a bad
thing, because it made me curious about the extinguisher and I find that
there is indeed no way to test without pulling the pin. It's a fairly
good size model, very weighty, that stands ready to serve in our pantry
-- about five steps from the stove.

So, the poll results are skewed because I wasn't paying very good
attention. Not enough coffee I suppose.

--Lin
  #14 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?


Lin wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > No, you can not test fire a fire extinguisher. If you test fire it,
> > besides the obvious loss of capacity, the valve will not fully seal and
> > the remaining pressure will leak down to zero in short order.

>
> Admittedly, when I read that particular question in the poll I somehow
> misread it and clicked on the "yes" for test firing. Not such a bad
> thing, because it made me curious about the extinguisher and I find that
> there is indeed no way to test without pulling the pin. It's a fairly
> good size model, very weighty, that stands ready to serve in our pantry
> -- about five steps from the stove.
>
> So, the poll results are skewed because I wasn't paying very good
> attention. Not enough coffee I suppose.
>
> --Lin


My kitchen extinguisher is a relatively small one, but more than
adequate for a stove fire. It's mounted on the side of a cabinet about
4' away from the stove, and is adjacent to the door into the garage and
3' away from the door to the back yard, so it's in the proper exit path
location.
  #15 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 542
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Lin > wrote in
est:

> Pete C. wrote:
>
>> No, you can not test fire a fire extinguisher. If you test fire it,
>> besides the obvious loss of capacity, the valve will not fully seal

and
>> the remaining pressure will leak down to zero in short order.

>
> Admittedly, when I read that particular question in the poll I somehow
> misread it and clicked on the "yes" for test firing.



Well, I 'test fired' my kitchen extinguisher about 2 weeks ago.

Got a frantic call that a nearby neighbours washing machine had caught
fire in their garage.

I grabbed the ext off the wall from the kitchen, and another from the
boot of my car, and raced over.

Electrical smoke and fumes, and dry powder dust in a confined space is
*not* a good thing to taste!!

If it had been left a few minutes more, the whole house would have gone
up. The Fire Brigade didn't arrive till about 6 minutes after I'd put it
out.

The *very* happy neighbours have since replaced both extinguishers for
me, and have bought some of their own :-)



> Not such a bad
> thing, because it made me curious about the extinguisher and I find

that
> there is indeed no way to test without pulling the pin. It's a fairly
> good size model, very weighty, that stands ready to serve in our

pantry
> -- about five steps from the stove.



Just check the pressure gauge periodically. If it starts to slip into
the red, pull the pin and practice with it...... *after* you have bought
a replacement and installed it :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

I was having dinner with my boss and his wife and she said to me, "How

many potatoes would you like Peter?". I said "Ooh, I'll just have one

please". She said "It's OK, you don't have to be polite" "Alright" I

said "I'll just have one then, you stupid cow".


  #16 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,830
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:23:11 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote on Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:53:47 +0200:
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy

>
>I guess my "yes" answer to having one is a little inexact. The
>extinguisher is on the garage wall just near the door that leads to the
>kitchen. Can you test-fire extinguishers?


NO!!

>I know how to use mine but
>I've lost the instructions about refilling etc. Mine has a pressure
>guage that currently indicates an allegedly adequate charge.


It might have a weight list on it. If the weight is down it needs
refilling or replacing.

Lou

  #17 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,251
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:23:11 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote on Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:53:47 +0200:
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy

>
>I guess my "yes" answer to having one is a little inexact. The
>extinguisher is on the garage wall just near the door that leads to the
>kitchen. Can you test-fire extinguishers? I know how to use mine but
>I've lost the instructions about refilling etc. Mine has a pressure
>guage that currently indicates an allegedly adequate charge.


Monitoring the gauge and other physical aspects of the extinguisher
are the way to go. I have never heard of any home extinguishers having
to be fired for testing, myself, as that would likely render a chunk
of them useless from then on..

Good info he

http://fireextinguisher.com/intro.ht...industry=other

Boron



  #18 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,409
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> "James Silverton" >
> news:zBSZk.2724$QX3.1417 @nwrddc02.gnilink.net: in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> I guess my "yes" answer to having one is a little inexact. The
>> extinguisher is on the garage wall just near the door that leads to the
>> kitchen. Can you test-fire extinguishers? I know how to use mine but
>> I've lost the instructions about refilling etc. Mine has a pressure
>> guage that currently indicates an allegedly adequate charge.

>
> I have 3 around the house. One in the kitchen, 1 in the garage and one in
> the basement lest one of those pesky dryer fires should start.
>
> I know how to use mine and I take them to the local fire station to be
> tested every year and filled if needed.


The FD will check and recharge FE's? Small town? (That's not a dig and
I don't know where you live; it just doesn't sound likely where I am.)


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

  #19 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,235
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> Blinky the Shark >
> news > rec.food.cooking
>
> > The FD will check and recharge FE's? Small town? (That's not a dig
> > and I don't know where you live; it just doesn't sound likely where
> > I am.)

>
> I live in a small municipality in the St. Louis area. I don't know
> what the population census is but it's small. We support our own
> fire and police departments and city hall. We lease garbage removal
> etc. from St. Louis County.


That last part is unlikely. Trash removal in the County is handled by
independent companies. Some municipalities have designated one company
to service the city, others (like mine) leave it open for anyone to
contract with whichever company they want. Recently, the County has
designated zones for unincorporated areas and selected single companies
for those areas based on a bidding system.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
  #20 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 547
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "Default User" > news:6pqscdF95t29U1
> @mid.individual.net: in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> That last part is unlikely. Trash removal in the County is handled by
>> independent companies. Some municipalities have designated one company
>> to service the city, others (like mine) leave it open for anyone to
>> contract with whichever company they want. Recently, the County has
>> designated zones for unincorporated areas and selected single companies
>> for those areas based on a bidding system.
>>

>
> All I know is what city hall tells me. I do write the checks to an
> independent company though. Think it's Waste Management.
>
> Michael



Isn't that the mafia? Okay, let's forget I said that. <quietly
tip-toeing out of the room>


Becca


  #21 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12,295
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" said...

> LOL... I dunno. All I know is the trash people are rude and literally
> fling the trash cans into the middle of the yard when they are done
> emptying them.



I asked my trash guys if they could throw the emptied trash can as far down
the driveway as they could! They loved the idea and take turns. Usually
saving me an average of 20' feet walk uphill to retrieve it.

Andy
  #22 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?


Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
>
> Becca > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
> >> All I know is what city hall tells me. I do write the checks to an
> >> independent company though. Think it's Waste Management.
> >>
> >> Michael

> >
> >
> > Isn't that the mafia? Okay, let's forget I said that. <quietly
> > tip-toeing out of the room>

>
> LOL... I dunno. All I know is the trash people are rude and literally
> fling the trash cans into the middle of the yard when they are done
> emptying them.


Around here we do not use trash cans, we just put bagged garbage out by
the road on collection day. We actually have at least three different
companies servicing this area to choose from, one of which is WM. If WM
was the mob, I suspect the other companies would no longer be operating
here.
  #23 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,235
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> Becca >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> >> All I know is what city hall tells me. I do write the checks to

> an >> independent company though. Think it's Waste Management.
> > >
> >> Michael

> >
> >
> > Isn't that the mafia? Okay, let's forget I said that. <quietly
> > tip-toeing out of the room>

>
> LOL... I dunno. All I know is the trash people are rude and
> literally fling the trash cans into the middle of the yard when they
> are done emptying them.


I don't have that problem, even though I'm also with WM. I think I
would prefer that, they leave them pretty much where I put them at the
end of the driveway. Too often the cans or the lids end up in the
street on windy days. The lid to one got run over last week, which
didn't overly please me.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
  #24 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 35,884
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> I live in a small municipality in the St. Louis area. I don't know what
> the population census is but it's small. We support our own fire and
> police departments and city hall. We lease garbage removal etc. from St.
> Louis County. And yes, our fire department will do it for us. Probably
> because we are so small.


A few years ago the city next to our town built a new fire hall near the
municipal border. It is much closer to our town than it is to anything
in the city it is supposed to serve. It is a half mile from a
intersection that has several restaurants, commercial malls and a few
other businesses. Since that fire hall was opened, less than three years
ago,three businesses at that corner have burned to the ground, along
with a house another quarter mile down the road. It is a pathetic
record. Our volunteer department has a much better record for saving
buildings.

  #25 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,830
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:53:47 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>Thanks go to Andy for this one.


I've got plenty of them. One in the kitchen and 2 around corners in
the city and 6 in various areas at out cottage. Plenty of smoke
alarms also.

Never test fire one. Many are marked NOT to.

Lou


  #26 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12,295
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Lou Decruss said...

> Never test fire one. Many are marked NOT to.
>
> Lou



I had a small oven fire the other day and grabbed the first alert (no
gauge/no refill) fire extinguisher and pushed the button and nothing
happened. It was probably 5 years old. I was a little alarmed to say the
least.

Some like mine can burst extinguish rather than exhaust the entire contents
so they "can" be used more than once. A quick test fire outside won't
deplete much content or pressure. And after the other day, I wish I had.

I folded some heavy duty aluminum foil and tossed it on the flames and it
went out instantly.

Andy
Voter #12
  #27 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,387
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

On Dec 4, 8:09*am, Andy > wrote:
> Lou Decruss said...
>
> > Never test fire one. *Many are marked NOT to.

>
> > Lou

>
> I had a small oven fire the other day and grabbed the first alert (no
> gauge/no refill) fire extinguisher and pushed the button and nothing
> happened. It was probably 5 years old. I was a little alarmed to say the
> least.
>
> Some like mine can burst extinguish rather than exhaust the entire contents
> so they "can" be used more than once. A quick test fire outside won't
> deplete much content or pressure. And after the other day, I wish I had.
>
> I folded some heavy duty aluminum foil and tossed it on the flames and it
> went out instantly.
>
> Andy
> Voter #12


Salt & baking soda work well, also...
  #28 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 36,804
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 4, 8:09 am, Andy > wrote:
> Lou Decruss said...
>
> > Never test fire one. Many are marked NOT to.

>
> > Lou

>
> I had a small oven fire the other day and grabbed the first alert (no
> gauge/no refill) fire extinguisher and pushed the button and nothing
> happened. It was probably 5 years old. I was a little alarmed to say the
> least.
>
> Some like mine can burst extinguish rather than exhaust the entire
> contents
> so they "can" be used more than once. A quick test fire outside won't
> deplete much content or pressure. And after the other day, I wish I had.
>
> I folded some heavy duty aluminum foil and tossed it on the flames and it
> went out instantly.
>
> Andy
> Voter #12


Salt & baking soda work well, also...



I'd certainly think of grabbing the box of baking soda (or salt) before I'd
think of ripping off a piece of aluminium foil

Jill

  #29 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,387
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

On Dec 4, 11:15*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "merryb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 4, 8:09 am, Andy > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lou Decruss said...

>
> > > Never test fire one. Many are marked NOT to.

>
> > > Lou

>
> > I had a small oven fire the other day and grabbed the first alert (no
> > gauge/no refill) fire extinguisher and pushed the button and nothing
> > happened. It was probably 5 years old. I was a little alarmed to say the
> > least.

>
> > Some like mine can burst extinguish rather than exhaust the entire
> > contents
> > so they "can" be used more than once. A quick test fire outside won't
> > deplete much content or pressure. And after the other day, I wish I had..

>
> > I folded some heavy duty aluminum foil and tossed it on the flames and it
> > went out instantly.

>
> > Andy
> > Voter #12

>
> Salt & baking soda work well, also...
>
> I'd certainly think of grabbing the box of baking soda (or salt) before I'd
> think of ripping off a piece of aluminium foil
>
> Jill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Me too!
  #30 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 24,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

In article >, Andy > wrote:

> Lou Decruss said...
>
> > Never test fire one. Many are marked NOT to.
> >
> > Lou

>
>
> I had a small oven fire the other day and grabbed the first alert (no
> gauge/no refill) fire extinguisher and pushed the button and nothing
> happened. It was probably 5 years old. I was a little alarmed to say the
> least.
>
> Some like mine can burst extinguish rather than exhaust the entire contents
> so they "can" be used more than once. A quick test fire outside won't
> deplete much content or pressure. And after the other day, I wish I had.
>
> I folded some heavy duty aluminum foil and tossed it on the flames and it
> went out instantly.
>
> Andy
> Voter #12


Where did you learn that trick? I've not heard of it.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama


  #31 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12,295
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Omelet said...

>> I folded some heavy duty aluminum foil and tossed it on the flames and

it
>> went out instantly.
>>
>> Andy
>> Voter #12

>
> Where did you learn that trick? I've not heard of it.
> --
> Peace! Om



Om,

The folds of aluminum foil fused in direct contact with the flames on the
oven's bottom foil crumbs and dripped grease.

It was more LUCK than a trick. First try! If there was air between the
flames and the foil it certainly would have failed.

Ask me someday about "the tri-tip roast indoor BBQ-grill fire of 2003."

Best,

Andy
  #32 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 35,884
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Lou Decruss > news:hotfj4ppqh726kn3bkg56b1m9bno8iuvam@
> 4ax.com: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> I've got plenty of them. One in the kitchen and 2 around corners in
>> the city and 6 in various areas at out cottage. Plenty of smoke
>> alarms also.
>>
>> Never test fire one. Many are marked NOT to.

>
> I've never test fired ours. Now I'm kind of itching to try it now that
> we're talking about it ;-)



The problem with test firing an extinguisher is that they then have to
be replaced or recharged. It could be an endless cycle. :-)

I was lucky to have had some firefighting training at work. We had to
do it every few years and we got to use the extinguishers. I did have to
use one on a work vehicle once. A truck had just returned from the shop
and I was heading out to a job and got only about a quarter mile down
the road before an electrical fire started. I got it out in time.

I had two other occasions where I came across burning vehicles at the
side of the road. In the first case, I pulled over to offer assistance
and someone already on the scene wanted me to use my extinguisher on it.
Was he nuts? Did he think I was? Flames were already coming up through
the hood. I wasn't going near it. In the other incident it was an
abandoned vehicle and it was already totally burned out. It is not safe
to be close enough to use a car size extinguisher.
  #33 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,453
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

ChattyCathy wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this one.



I recently cleaned out the storage locker where my flyball club stored
their equipment. Among the contents were two good-sized fire
extinguishers, the sort that are rated for use on liquids, electrical
and trash fires. All of our vehicles already have fire extinguishers,
the house is equipped with smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors
and I have easy access to baking soda and water in the kitchen, so I
wasn't quite sure what to do with the things. The local children's
charity wouldn't take them as donations - said they'd had one blow up in
one of their trucks once, and come to think of it, they were at least
three years old so I wasn't positive they'd even work.

So I decided to test one of them. Gave it to my son and his friends.
There's nothing like hands-on experience for keeping you calm in a
crisis, and I figured if one of them was functional, the other would be
good to keep in the garage. They had a great time taking turns blasting
powder all over the back yard (which I made them hose down afterwards),
and they all know exactly how to operate a fire extinguisher now. Its
twin is outside in the garage and when I've got a spare minute I'll take
the empty to the fire station down the road and find out if it's
re-fillable, and if not, what to do with it.

  #34 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?


Kathleen wrote:
>
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >
> > Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>
> I recently cleaned out the storage locker where my flyball club stored
> their equipment. Among the contents were two good-sized fire
> extinguishers, the sort that are rated for use on liquids, electrical
> and trash fires. All of our vehicles already have fire extinguishers,
> the house is equipped with smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors
> and I have easy access to baking soda and water in the kitchen, so I
> wasn't quite sure what to do with the things. The local children's
> charity wouldn't take them as donations - said they'd had one blow up in
> one of their trucks once, and come to think of it, they were at least
> three years old so I wasn't positive they'd even work.
>
> So I decided to test one of them. Gave it to my son and his friends.
> There's nothing like hands-on experience for keeping you calm in a
> crisis, and I figured if one of them was functional, the other would be
> good to keep in the garage. They had a great time taking turns blasting
> powder all over the back yard (which I made them hose down afterwards),
> and they all know exactly how to operate a fire extinguisher now. Its
> twin is outside in the garage and when I've got a spare minute I'll take
> the empty to the fire station down the road and find out if it's
> re-fillable, and if not, what to do with it.


The larger ones are serviceable / refillable, though if it's old enough
to require hydro testing it may not be cost effective.

For disposal, just discharge the contents (as you did in the back yard),
and then when no pressure remains unscrew the handle valve assembly and
dispose of in your regular garbage.
  #35 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,453
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Pete C. wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>>ChattyCathy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>
>>>Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>>
>>I recently cleaned out the storage locker where my flyball club stored
>>their equipment. Among the contents were two good-sized fire
>>extinguishers, the sort that are rated for use on liquids, electrical
>>and trash fires. All of our vehicles already have fire extinguishers,
>>the house is equipped with smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors
>>and I have easy access to baking soda and water in the kitchen, so I
>>wasn't quite sure what to do with the things. The local children's
>>charity wouldn't take them as donations - said they'd had one blow up in
>>one of their trucks once, and come to think of it, they were at least
>>three years old so I wasn't positive they'd even work.
>>
>>So I decided to test one of them. Gave it to my son and his friends.
>>There's nothing like hands-on experience for keeping you calm in a
>>crisis, and I figured if one of them was functional, the other would be
>>good to keep in the garage. They had a great time taking turns blasting
>>powder all over the back yard (which I made them hose down afterwards),
>>and they all know exactly how to operate a fire extinguisher now. Its
>>twin is outside in the garage and when I've got a spare minute I'll take
>>the empty to the fire station down the road and find out if it's
>>re-fillable, and if not, what to do with it.

>
>
> The larger ones are serviceable / refillable, though if it's old enough
> to require hydro testing it may not be cost effective.
>
> For disposal, just discharge the contents (as you did in the back yard),
> and then when no pressure remains unscrew the handle valve assembly and
> dispose of in your regular garbage.


Geeze, that seems like a real shame. I mean, it's a fairly hefty chunk
of metal. Even if I can't get it re-filled or whatever, maybe they'll
know if I can put it in the recycle bin.



  #36 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?


Kathleen wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Kathleen wrote:
> >
> >>ChattyCathy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >>>
> >>>Thanks go to Andy for this one.
> >>
> >>I recently cleaned out the storage locker where my flyball club stored
> >>their equipment. Among the contents were two good-sized fire
> >>extinguishers, the sort that are rated for use on liquids, electrical
> >>and trash fires. All of our vehicles already have fire extinguishers,
> >>the house is equipped with smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors
> >>and I have easy access to baking soda and water in the kitchen, so I
> >>wasn't quite sure what to do with the things. The local children's
> >>charity wouldn't take them as donations - said they'd had one blow up in
> >>one of their trucks once, and come to think of it, they were at least
> >>three years old so I wasn't positive they'd even work.
> >>
> >>So I decided to test one of them. Gave it to my son and his friends.
> >>There's nothing like hands-on experience for keeping you calm in a
> >>crisis, and I figured if one of them was functional, the other would be
> >>good to keep in the garage. They had a great time taking turns blasting
> >>powder all over the back yard (which I made them hose down afterwards),
> >>and they all know exactly how to operate a fire extinguisher now. Its
> >>twin is outside in the garage and when I've got a spare minute I'll take
> >>the empty to the fire station down the road and find out if it's
> >>re-fillable, and if not, what to do with it.

> >
> >
> > The larger ones are serviceable / refillable, though if it's old enough
> > to require hydro testing it may not be cost effective.
> >
> > For disposal, just discharge the contents (as you did in the back yard),
> > and then when no pressure remains unscrew the handle valve assembly and
> > dispose of in your regular garbage.

>
> Geeze, that seems like a real shame. I mean, it's a fairly hefty chunk
> of metal. Even if I can't get it re-filled or whatever, maybe they'll
> know if I can put it in the recycle bin.


Realize that much of your garbage gets recycled in a growing number of
areas even if you do not have recycling bins. It has been found to be
more efficient and economical to sort the garbage at the central
collection point than at the source.
  #37 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,453
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Pete C. wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>>Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Kathleen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks go to Andy for this one.
>>>>
>>>>I recently cleaned out the storage locker where my flyball club stored
>>>>their equipment. Among the contents were two good-sized fire
>>>>extinguishers, the sort that are rated for use on liquids, electrical
>>>>and trash fires. All of our vehicles already have fire extinguishers,
>>>>the house is equipped with smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors
>>>>and I have easy access to baking soda and water in the kitchen, so I
>>>>wasn't quite sure what to do with the things. The local children's
>>>>charity wouldn't take them as donations - said they'd had one blow up in
>>>>one of their trucks once, and come to think of it, they were at least
>>>>three years old so I wasn't positive they'd even work.
>>>>
>>>>So I decided to test one of them. Gave it to my son and his friends.
>>>>There's nothing like hands-on experience for keeping you calm in a
>>>>crisis, and I figured if one of them was functional, the other would be
>>>>good to keep in the garage. They had a great time taking turns blasting
>>>>powder all over the back yard (which I made them hose down afterwards),
>>>>and they all know exactly how to operate a fire extinguisher now. Its
>>>>twin is outside in the garage and when I've got a spare minute I'll take
>>>>the empty to the fire station down the road and find out if it's
>>>>re-fillable, and if not, what to do with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>The larger ones are serviceable / refillable, though if it's old enough
>>>to require hydro testing it may not be cost effective.
>>>
>>>For disposal, just discharge the contents (as you did in the back yard),
>>>and then when no pressure remains unscrew the handle valve assembly and
>>>dispose of in your regular garbage.

>>
>>Geeze, that seems like a real shame. I mean, it's a fairly hefty chunk
>>of metal. Even if I can't get it re-filled or whatever, maybe they'll
>>know if I can put it in the recycle bin.

>
>
> Realize that much of your garbage gets recycled in a growing number of
> areas even if you do not have recycling bins. It has been found to be
> more efficient and economical to sort the garbage at the central
> collection point than at the source.


We have a "blue bag" program in our municipality. Households are
supplied with rolls of extra tough blue plastic garbage bags. You put
paper, glass, plastic and aluminum in them, then toss the bags in your
regular dumpster for collection with the rest of the trash. The blue
bags are retrieved and sorted at the municipal waste facility.
Everything not in a blue bag goes to the dump.

Oh, and there are separate pick-up days and containers for yard waste,
which goes to the municipal composting facility, and you'd *better not*
be throwing that stuff in with the regular trash. I got a nasty note
once for throwing a wilted valentine's bouquet of roses in with the
regular trash.


  #38 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 24,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this one.


Good survey. Makes people think.
I have an extinguisher in the kitchen even tho' it's been many years
since we had a stove fire, and I did use the extinguisher on it.

There is also a smoke detector.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama
  #39 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 542
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-0960D8.12362704122008
@news.giganews.com:

> In article >,
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this one.

>
> Good survey. Makes people think.
> I have an extinguisher in the kitchen even tho' it's been many years
> since we had a stove fire, and I did use the extinguisher on it.
>
> There is also a smoke detector.




Time to get a Fire Blanket as well.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

I was having dinner with my boss and his wife and she said to me, "How

many potatoes would you like Peter?". I said "Ooh, I'll just have one

please". She said "It's OK, you don't have to be polite" "Alright" I

said "I'll just have one then, you stupid cow".
  #40 (permalink)   Report Post  
Posted to rec.food.cooking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 24,847
Default (2008-12-04) NS-RFC: Cooking with fire?

In article > ,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-0960D8.12362704122008
> @news.giganews.com:
>
> > In article >,
> > ChattyCathy > wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >>
> >> Thanks go to Andy for this one.

> >
> > Good survey. Makes people think.
> > I have an extinguisher in the kitchen even tho' it's been many years
> > since we had a stove fire, and I did use the extinguisher on it.
> >
> > There is also a smoke detector.

>
>
>
> Time to get a Fire Blanket as well.


I got rid of the POS stove that was hard to clean under and behind the
burners and got a glass top.

Haven't had even a near miss since. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fire pit cooking Julie Bove[_2_] General Cooking 60 22-05-2016 11:54 PM
First Open Fire Cooking of the Season ~patches~ General Cooking 16 12-04-2006 02:00 PM
COOKING UNDER FIRE total shit [email protected] General Cooking 6 23-08-2005 05:40 PM
PBS: Cooking Under Fire? Where?? M. FERRANTE General Cooking 2 20-06-2005 03:39 PM
U watching "Cooking Under Fire"? PBS M. FERRANTE General Cooking 8 28-05-2005 10:31 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:58 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 FoodBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Food and drink"