"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
> ...
>> Shudder! This may be the last meal of a democratic society. After this,
>> we may all get together for potato soup at the Gulag every four years.
>>
>
> heh heh heh
>
> Go ahead, capitalist pig. Sweat.

What's to sweat? I'm disabled and on SS. I'm structured in trusts, LLCs,
and other investments. I'm so structured, I qualify for Obama's freebies.
And I'm going to sign up for them, too.

Steve

The Ranger wrote:
> TammyM > wrote in message
> ...
> [snip]
>> I'm planning on having a bottle of champagne here.
>
> Cold Duck or Cook's?! Inquiring minds and all that.
>
> The Ranger
>
>


If O wins, Veuve Cliquot!

gloria p

In article >,
"SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:

> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Shudder! This may be the last meal of a democratic society. After this,
> >> we may all get together for potato soup at the Gulag every four years.
> >>
> >
> > heh heh heh
> >
> > Go ahead, capitalist pig. Sweat.
>
> What's to sweat? I'm disabled and on SS. I'm structured in trusts, LLCs,
> and other investments. I'm so structured, I qualify for Obama's freebies.
> And I'm going to sign up for them, too.
>
> Steve

Gods... Now Cybertwit has turned Marxist/Commie?
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:26:30 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:06:48 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll be relieved to have a new president, no matter who it is - but
>> I'd feel a lot better about McCain if he hadn't chosen that whack job
>> Palin as a running mate.
>
>maybe you've seen this interactive display of palin's white house office:
>
><http://www.palinaspresident.us/>
>
>click on each item, often several times.
>
I haven't seen the Palin version. My friends are slackers! <sigh>


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:35:00 -0800, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas>
wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Shudder! This may be the last meal of a democratic society. After this,
>>> we may all get together for potato soup at the Gulag every four years.
>>>
>>
>> heh heh heh
>>
>> Go ahead, capitalist pig. Sweat.
>
>What's to sweat? I'm disabled and on SS. I'm structured in trusts, LLCs,
>and other investments. I'm so structured, I qualify for Obama's freebies.
>And I'm going to sign up for them, too.
>
If you qualify, take advantage of it. Make your life easier.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:32:54 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:22:16 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:10:47 -0600, "Gregory Morrow" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Whoever wins, the euphoria is going to wear off *very* fast what with the
>>>lousy economic nooze that will be battering us in the coming months...it
>>>AIN'T going to pretty, kids...!!!
>>
>> I think we're all grown up enough to know that a new president can't
>> be a messiah... until or unless he can dig us out of the present hole
>> that we and our grandchildren will be paying off.
>>
>> Most of us are prepared to grab onto the handle bars and ride it out.
>> I bet the loudest complainers will be those who voted President
>> Numbskull in TWICE.
>
>if you think the wingers are apeshit now, wait and see if obama wins. it
>will make the clinton days look like a tea party.
>
Clinton left the US with annual surpluses that could have paid off the
National Debt. Under Bush, those surpluses evaporated - so the next
president has a lot of dirty work to do.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:43:48 -0600, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>On election night, my daughter and I watched the results in her living
>room, after eating a veggie pizza I had made:
>
>pesto to coat the crust
>red and green pepper, chopped fine
>crumbled goat's milk cheese
>pignoli to taste
>
>I made the pesto from fresh basil leaves, oil, and garlic.

Election night will be pizza night for me too! I made the dough
tonight and my son will be the pizza chef tomorrow night. It's a
win-win situation.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:35:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

>On Nov 1, 5:39 pm, sf > wrote:
>> Are you inviting anyone over to watch the returns? What are you
>> planning for dinner?
>
>
>I plan to drink a glass or two of something alcoholic, just to
>celebrate the end of this election period. Special meal? I barely
>know what I'm eating tom'w morning.

HEH, that's usually me too - so don't feel bad. I asked because so
many here *do* plan for special occasions - yes, even election night.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:28:15 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:
>
>sf wrote:
>>
>> Are you inviting anyone over to watch the returns?
>
>Wouldn't inflict that level of boredom on my worst enemy
>
>
>What are you
>> planning for dinner? Will it be labor intensive so you're not really
>> paying attention, or will you throw something easy in the oven so you
>> can concentrate on the pundit commentaries?
>>
>
>What dinner?? LOL my stomach already hurts thinking about either of THEM
>running a country.

That's certainly a negative attitude. No matter who wins, you'll be
disappointed. Honestly, I feel sorry for you and hope to never walk
in your shoes.
>
>However there is always:
>
>Election Cake (1802...from: Grandmother's Country Cookbook)
>

I don't eat cake very often - not even once every 4 years.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:05:51 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>prop 13 is a prime example of why government by voter initiative is a bad
>idea.

So, you don't believe in government by the People? Government by
voter (the People) is called a DEMOCRACY.

>the current prop 8 is another.

I'm voting *against* prop 8 (because *I* can) and you're sounding like
a closet Palin republican.

The United States is unique because we are a "Democracy within a
Republic". We're a big country, so it makes sense.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:35:01 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 1, 5:39 pm, sf > wrote:
> >> Are you inviting anyone over to watch the returns? What are you
> >> planning for dinner?
> >
> >
> >I plan to drink a glass or two of something alcoholic, just to
> >celebrate the end of this election period. Special meal? I barely
> >know what I'm eating tom'w morning.
>
> HEH, that's usually me too - so don't feel bad. I asked because so
> many here *do* plan for special occasions - yes, even election night.

Any excuse for a party! ;-D
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:47:57 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:06:48 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:38:04 GMT, blake murphy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:06:27 -0800, SteveB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe something with arsenic or hemlock depending on the results
>>>>> ......................
>>>>
>>>>eh, how bad can it be?
>>>>
>>>>if george bush could not completely destroy the country despite his best
>>>>efforts, we'll muddle through regardless.
>>>>
>>> I think you're right. We're down so far we have to look up to see the
>>> bottom, but we'll persevere and get through it.
>>>
>>> I'll be relieved to have a new president, no matter who it is - but
>>> I'd feel a lot better about McCain if he hadn't chosen that whack job
>>> Palin as a running mate.
>>
>> maybe you've seen this interactive display of palin's white house office:
>>
>> <http://www.palinaspresident.us/>
>>
>> click on each item, often several times.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Sorry, but that does not count towards reality...

what does palin have to do with reality?

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:09:07 +0100, Giusi wrote:

> "blake murphy"
>
>> if you think the wingers are apeshit now, wait and see if obama wins. it
>> will make the clinton days look like a tea party.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> I had a conversation about this today with a visiting friend. He also
> remembers the Sixties and Seventies. What happened to us? What happened to
> the excitement over freedom, equality, respect for rights? How did we end
> up rearing kids who beat up old people for fun? Kids with no respect for
> anything? How did all those beautiful and earnest youngsters turn into US?

everyone stopped smoking pot. well, almost everyone.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:12:00 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:32:54 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:22:16 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:10:47 -0600, "Gregory Morrow" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Whoever wins, the euphoria is going to wear off *very* fast what with the
>>>>lousy economic nooze that will be battering us in the coming months...it
>>>>AIN'T going to pretty, kids...!!!
>>>
>>> I think we're all grown up enough to know that a new president can't
>>> be a messiah... until or unless he can dig us out of the present hole
>>> that we and our grandchildren will be paying off.
>>>
>>> Most of us are prepared to grab onto the handle bars and ride it out.
>>> I bet the loudest complainers will be those who voted President
>>> Numbskull in TWICE.
>>
>>if you think the wingers are apeshit now, wait and see if obama wins. it
>>will make the clinton days look like a tea party.
>>
> Clinton left the US with annual surpluses that could have paid off the
> National Debt. Under Bush, those surpluses evaporated - so the next
> president has a lot of dirty work to do.

he definitely needs to bring his lunch.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:29:38 -0800, SteveB wrote:

> Shudder! This may be the last meal of a democratic society. After this, we
> may all get together for potato soup at the Gulag every four years.
>
> Steve

at the rate george bush has been spying on citizens, we're halfway there
already.

blake

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:39:50 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:05:51 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>prop 13 is a prime example of why government by voter initiative is a bad
>>idea.
>
> So, you don't believe in government by the People? Government by
> voter (the People) is called a DEMOCRACY.

the u.s. is a representative democracy. i would not be comfortable
putting, say, the first ten amendments to the constitution up to a popular
vote.

>
>>the current prop 8 is another.
>
> I'm voting *against* prop 8 (because *I* can) and you're sounding like
> a closet Palin republican.
>

what the ****? i don't favor rescinding the right of gays to marry.

> The United States is unique because we are a "Democracy within a
> Republic". We're a big country, so it makes sense.

you vote for your representatives, who (theoretically) have more time to
study the issues, and yes, sometimes 'overrule' ill-considered popular
passions.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:06:34 -0600, anonymous >
> wrote:
>
> >Early voting should be made mandatory in all states...
>
> Or at least made easier. California has cleverly hidden the
> information for years.

How many years have they been hiding it? I haven't found any definite
reference, but it appears that this is the first year it's been offered.
Perhaps it appeared "hidden" because it didn't exist?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:43:48 -0600, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
> >On election night, my daughter and I watched the results in her living
> >room, after eating a veggie pizza I had made:
> >
> >pesto to coat the crust
> >red and green pepper, chopped fine
> >crumbled goat's milk cheese
> >pignoli to taste
> >
> >I made the pesto from fresh basil leaves, oil, and garlic.
>
> Election night will be pizza night for me too! I made the dough
> tonight and my son will be the pizza chef tomorrow night. It's a
> win-win situation.

It looks as if it will be pizza night for us as well. I was going to
cook, but I've come down with a nasty cold and the SO doesn't want me
serving up viruses. I'll probably stick to water, since I'd probably
zonk out before the Washington polls close if I had any alcohol.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

blake murphy > wrote:

>the u.s. is a representative democracy. i would not be comfortable
>putting, say, the first ten amendments to the constitution up to a popular
>vote.

You might not be comfortable in California then....

S.

"blake murphy" schrieb :
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:39:50 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:05:51 GMT, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>prop 13 is a prime example of why government by voter initiative is a bad
>>>idea.
>>
>> So, you don't believe in government by the People? Government by
>> voter (the People) is called a DEMOCRACY.
>
> the u.s. is a representative democracy. i would not be comfortable
> putting, say, the first ten amendments to the constitution up to a popular
> vote.
>
Well, a representative two-party system is just one step up from a
one-party system ...
The constitution could be changed by public vote in Switzerland
or my country; however - more then 2/3rds of the voters had to agree.
Which is rather unlikely in countries with more than 2 political parties.

<snip>
>> The United States is unique because we are a "Democracy within a
>> Republic". We're a big country, so it makes sense.
>
Unique ?
That will come as a shock to many European countries which are
both republics and democracies. Although most with more than 2 parties.

> you vote for your representatives, who (theoretically) have more time to
> study the issues, and yes, sometimes 'overrule' ill-considered popular
> passions.
>
I still like the Swiss and my countries model better.
Apart from the representatives, the people can vote directly on important
matters.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:05:51 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
> >prop 13 is a prime example of why government by voter initiative is a bad
> >idea.
>
> So, you don't believe in government by the People? Government by
> voter (the People) is called a DEMOCRACY.

It's government by MONEY! Even decades later, most people, and not just
in California, think that prop 13 was a victory by the little people.
But those people got screwed. It was always about big business,
especially apartment house owners. Prop 13 is known as the Jarvis/Gann
Amendment, after Howard Jarvis and Paul Gann.

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Jarvis

"Jarvis was at the time employed by the Los Angeles Apartment Owners
Association as a lobbyist. In a fundraising letter to the landlords that
employed him, he claimed, "We are the biggest losers" if Prop. 13 fails.
(Not to mention: The Yes on 13 headquarters were located in a Los
Angeles Apartment Owners Association office.) He tried to persuade
renters to vote for Prop. 13 by saying it would drive down rents, by
decreasing the property taxes that landlords paid. Post-13 news reports
found rents weren't going down, despite Jarvis's promises - apparently
landlords were just pocketing their property tax savings."

> >the current prop 8 is another.
>
> I'm voting *against* prop 8 (because *I* can) and you're sounding like
> a closet Palin republican.

You do understand, of course, that if prop 8 fails today, that you'll
have to start teaching your students how to have *** sex. Starting
tomorrow. The State Ed Code mandates it. Everybody who's read the ads,
listened to the ads on the radio or watched the ads on tv knows this.
The LDS church alone has spent US$20,000,000 to make sure that we all
understand this, and that a failure of prop 8 is an infringement of
their right of religious freedom to force the rest of us to live our
personal lives according to their beliefs.

The following official state government URLs are taken from a full page
ad appearing on Nov 2, 2008 in my local newspaper (the Santa Rosa Press
Democrat):

http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/se/sexeducation.asp
http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/se/faq.asp

Of course, I could find nothing to substantiate the claims, but I only
spent about 20 minutes looking.

Still, there are two leaps of logic (perhaps "faith" is a better word)
here. For one thing, the CA Ed Code is already there, and nothing
changes whether prop 8 passes or fails. Second of all, the CA Supreme
Court made *** marriage legal half a year ago. If prop 8 fails, nothing
happens. We're at status quo. There is no "trigger" if prop 8 fails
that changes what is taught in the schools. If it hasn't been taught
the last six months, under existing constitutional law and existing Ed
Code, what will cause it to be taught if prop 8 fails?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > In article
> sf <> wrote:
>> >the current prop 8 is another.
>>
>> I'm voting *against* prop 8 (because *I* can) and you're sounding like
>> a closet Palin republican.
>
> You do understand, of course, that if prop 8 fails today, that you'll
> have to start teaching your students how to have *** sex.

Allowing people to marry doesn't say anything about their having to have
sex. Ask 20 million husbands and 25 million wives.

We shall avert our eyes in a modest manner once the knot is tied.

On Nov 2, 12:22*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *merryb > wrote:
> > On Nov 1, 4:40*pm, Dimitri > wrote:
> > > On Nov 1, 4:32*pm, Andy > wrote:
>
> > > > sf said...
>
> > > > > Are you inviting anyone over to watch the returns? *What are you
> > > > > planning for dinner? *Will it be labor intensive so you're not really
> > > > > paying attention, or will you throw something easy in the oven so you
> > > > > can concentrate on the pundit commentaries?
>
> > > > I'm going to vote as soon as the polls open then have most of a 2-foot
> > > > "breakfast" Philly cheesesteak, a shot of tequila and then smoke a giant,
> > > > cheap, stale, old, presidential election day cigar at the park. My
> > > > "trifecta" if you will, in horse racing parlance. Say the pledge of
> > > > allegiance and wait four more years for my next cigar!
>
> > > > Join me?
>
> > > > Andy
>
> > > Not for a cigar - too bad it's not a doobee then you can really enjoy
> > > the cheesesteak.
>
> > > :-)
>
> > > Carp I don't smoke those anymore either.
>
> > > Dimitri
>
> > What's the matter with you? We are having apps, with a few friends
> > over. I really don't care who they vote for, it's an end to all the
> > political commercials! I will be serving crackers with crab &
> > artichoke dip for the republicans, and the chocolate liquer recipe I
> > recently posted for the dems. I was also thinking of chocolate mousse
> > in honor of Sarah, and Jello shooters for her too, even tho I don't
> > support that party. Still in the planning stages, but so far, so good!
>
> Make jello shooters for both parties. *One in a red color jello, and one
> in a blue? <g>
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I only made red ones- but I did make brownies for the Green party!

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:

> > what does palin have to do with reality?

Frankly, she's one of the more powerful VP candidates I've seen in many
years.

> What do election promises have to do with reality?

It's the stated plan of the candidate, what they intend to try for if
they are elected. I consider myself to be lower middle class. McCain
wants to take from the middle class and give to the rich. Obama wants
to take from the middle class and give to the poor.

> There is a system of checks and balances. The president has less power
> than we give him credit for.

The President of the US is the most powerful politician in the US, and
has probably the most influence over what happens. The collective power
of the legislature is much greater, but not nearly as focussed.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:47:57 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:06:48 -0800, sf wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:38:04 GMT, blake murphy
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:06:27 -0800, SteveB wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Maybe something with arsenic or hemlock depending on the results
> >>>>> ......................
> >>>>
> >>>>eh, how bad can it be?
> >>>>
> >>>>if george bush could not completely destroy the country despite his best
> >>>>efforts, we'll muddle through regardless.
> >>>>
> >>> I think you're right. We're down so far we have to look up to see the
> >>> bottom, but we'll persevere and get through it.
> >>>
> >>> I'll be relieved to have a new president, no matter who it is - but
> >>> I'd feel a lot better about McCain if he hadn't chosen that whack job
> >>> Palin as a running mate.
> >>
> >> maybe you've seen this interactive display of palin's white house office:
> >>
> >> <http://www.palinaspresident.us/>
> >>
> >> click on each item, often several times.
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> > Sorry, but that does not count towards reality...
>
> what does palin have to do with reality?
>
> your pal,
> blake

What do election promises have to do with reality?

There is a system of checks and balances. The president has less power
than we give him credit for.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
merryb > wrote:

> I only made red ones- but I did make brownies for the Green party!

Did you add "herbals" to it? <eg>
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Nov 4, 1:57*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *merryb > wrote:
> > I only made red ones- but I did make brownies for the Green party!
>
> Did you add "herbals" to it? <eg>
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Of course! I'm looking forward to a little party, even if it's on a
Tuesday night! I printed up pics of Sarah, Joe, John, and Barack, plus
the ding dongs fighting for the Goveror's seat here in WA, and I think
we'll throw darts at all of them- I'm an equal oppurtunity hostess!
Wish you could join us and not have to worry about a p test!

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>You do understand, of course, that if prop 8 fails today, that you'll
>have to start teaching your students how to have *** sex. Starting
>tomorrow. The State Ed Code mandates it. Everybody who's read the ads,
>listened to the ads on the radio or watched the ads on tv knows this.

FYI, we already "have to" teach it. Do we? Guess.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:35:00 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:12:00 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:32:54 GMT, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:22:16 -0800, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:10:47 -0600, "Gregory Morrow" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Whoever wins, the euphoria is going to wear off *very* fast what with the
>>>>>lousy economic nooze that will be battering us in the coming months...it
>>>>>AIN'T going to pretty, kids...!!!
>>>>
>>>> I think we're all grown up enough to know that a new president can't
>>>> be a messiah... until or unless he can dig us out of the present hole
>>>> that we and our grandchildren will be paying off.
>>>>
>>>> Most of us are prepared to grab onto the handle bars and ride it out.
>>>> I bet the loudest complainers will be those who voted President
>>>> Numbskull in TWICE.
>>>
>>>if you think the wingers are apeshit now, wait and see if obama wins. it
>>>will make the clinton days look like a tea party.
>>>
>> Clinton left the US with annual surpluses that could have paid off the
>> National Debt. Under Bush, those surpluses evaporated - so the next
>> president has a lot of dirty work to do.
>
>he definitely needs to bring his lunch.
>
If the new prez is a democrat, he might even bring it in a brown paper
bag instead of a gold plated lunchbox.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article
>,
merryb > wrote:

> On Nov 4, 1:57*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *merryb > wrote:
> > > I only made red ones- but I did make brownies for the Green party!
> >
> > Did you add "herbals" to it? <eg>
>
> Of course! I'm looking forward to a little party, even if it's on a
> Tuesday night! I printed up pics of Sarah, Joe, John, and Barack, plus
> the ding dongs fighting for the Goveror's seat here in WA, and I think
> we'll throw darts at all of them- I'm an equal oppurtunity hostess!
> Wish you could join us and not have to worry about a p test!

<laughs> I wish I could too! Sounds like fun. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > > what does palin have to do with reality?
>
> Frankly, she's one of the more powerful VP candidates I've seen in many
> years.

Not that it matters now. Should be interesting if she decides to run in
2012.

>
> > What do election promises have to do with reality?
>
> It's the stated plan of the candidate, what they intend to try for if
> they are elected. I consider myself to be lower middle class. McCain
> wants to take from the middle class and give to the rich. Obama wants
> to take from the middle class and give to the poor.

So what does that do for us, the backbone of America? <g>

>
> > There is a system of checks and balances. The president has less power
> > than we give him credit for.
>
> The President of the US is the most powerful politician in the US, and
> has probably the most influence over what happens. The collective power
> of the legislature is much greater, but not nearly as focussed.

Only time will tell. It's kind of a moot point right now. Palin is out
of the picture for the next 4 years.

It was predictable.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> >he definitely needs to bring his lunch.
> >
> If the new prez is a democrat, he might even bring it in a brown paper
> bag instead of a gold plated lunchbox.

<lol> I dunno, I've heard about his taste in food. :-)
It was pointed out on WOAI radio.

Lobster and Caviar!
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Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet > wrote:

> Dan Abel > wrote:

>> Omelet > wrote:

>> > blake murphy > wrote:

>> > > what does palin have to do with reality?

>> Frankly, she's one of the more powerful VP candidates I've seen in many
>> years.

>Not that it matters now. Should be interesting if she decides to run in
>2012.

I expect her to recede to a sort of Ollie North status,
someone we can't ever shake, lurking there and commentating.

Steve

Greg, let me guess.....you're missing the sensitive gene. Your cop
friend seems to be missing it, too. Well, birds of a
feather........flock together. Pamela

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:28:15 -0700, Arri London >
> wrote:
> >
> >sf wrote:
> >>
> >> Are you inviting anyone over to watch the returns?
> >
> >Wouldn't inflict that level of boredom on my worst enemy
> >
> >
> >What are you
> >> planning for dinner? Will it be labor intensive so you're not really
> >> paying attention, or will you throw something easy in the oven so you
> >> can concentrate on the pundit commentaries?
> >>
> >
> >What dinner?? LOL my stomach already hurts thinking about either of THEM
> >running a country.
>
> That's certainly a negative attitude. No matter who wins, you'll be
> disappointed. Honestly, I feel sorry for you and hope to never walk
> in your shoes.

LOL that's silly. Why feel sorry? In every election people are
disappointed. Neither candidate was ever my choice, along with millions
of other people. That is the way the system works when only two
candidates are permitted.


> >
> >However there is always:
> >
> >Election Cake (1802...from: Grandmother's Country Cookbook)
> >
>
> I don't eat cake very often - not even once every 4 years.

Your choice of course, as is your choice of presidential candidate


>

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:47:11 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>>>he definitely needs to bring his lunch.
>>>
>> If the new prez is a democrat, he might even bring it in a brown paper
>> bag instead of a gold plated lunchbox.
>
> <lol> I dunno, I've heard about his taste in food. :-)
> It was pointed out on WOAI radio.
>
> Lobster and Caviar!

typical winger bullshit. that story was completely debunked:

October 29, 2008
Q:

Did Michelle Obama spend $450 on room service?
I recently received an e-mail with a picture and quote of Michelle Obama
saying if universal health care is going to work, someone is going to have
to give up a piece of the pie so someone can have more. The e-mail went on
to say, "oh really," then it had a picture of a room service receipt from
the Waldorf-Astoria signed by Michelle Obama on 10/15/08 for 2 lobster
appetizers, 2 caviars, 2 lobsters & champagne for a total of $447.00. Is
this for real or did someone do some Photoshop?
A:

No. The claim is a total fabrication, and the sources that publicized it
have retracted the story.
This hoax e-mail, which purports to show a copy of Michelle Obama's
exorbitant room service receipt, reproduces a flyer that was posted on the
blog of a pro-Hillary Clinton political action committee, Puma PAC. The
flyer quotes Michelle Obama saying that "someone is going to have to give
up a piece of the pie" for the sake of universal health care and education.
It then pictures a receipt from the Waldorf-Astoria hotel in New York City,
dated October 15, showing a total charge of $447.39 for lobster appetizers,
lobster, caviar (Iranian caviar, no less), champagne and room service
charges. The receipt is signed with the name Michelle Obama.

We certainly hope this is an Adobe Photoshop job, since the alternative
explanation is that someone ran up a $450 bill at the Waldorf-Astoria just
to perpetrate a cruel hoax. Or perhaps that someone stole Michelle Obama's
credit card. Or that there's someone else named Michelle Obama, someone
with expensive tastes. What's certainly true is that Michelle Obama, the
presidential candidate's wife, did not dine on lobster in New York on
October 15. She was more than 600 miles away giving a speech in Indiana.

The New York Post, which originally reported the fabricated story as true
on October 17, has retracted its article. Darragh Murphy, the director of
Puma PAC, has also retracted the flyer and apologized for perpetuating the
hoax.

-Jess Henig

Clarification: Michelle Obama was in New York on the evening of Oct. 15 to
attend the final presidential debate but did not stay in the
Waldorf-Astoria, according to the Obama campaign (and the New York Post
retraction). She left Indiana after her afternoon speech. The receipt is
dated 4:04 pm, at which time the campaign says Obama had not yet arrived in
New York.

<http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html>

don't you ever get tired of spouting false right-wing talking points?

blake

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:34:11 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>>the u.s. is a representative democracy. i would not be comfortable
>>putting, say, the first ten amendments to the constitution up to a popular
>>vote.
>
> You might not be comfortable in California then....
>
> S.

possibly not. do you think that government by proposition has been a good
thing there?

your pal,
blake

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> sf wrote:

> > That's certainly a negative attitude. No matter who wins, you'll be
> > disappointed. Honestly, I feel sorry for you and hope to never walk
> > in your shoes.
>
> LOL that's silly. Why feel sorry? In every election people are
> disappointed. Neither candidate was ever my choice, along with millions
> of other people. That is the way the system works when only two
> candidates are permitted.

> > I don't eat cake very often - not even once every 4 years.
>
> Your choice of course, as is your choice of presidential candidate

Sorry about your ballot. Mine had six choices for President of the US.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:52:49 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>>> Omelet > wrote:
>
>>> > blake murphy > wrote:
>
>>> > > what does palin have to do with reality?
>
>>> Frankly, she's one of the more powerful VP candidates I've seen in many
>>> years.
>
>>Not that it matters now. Should be interesting if she decides to run in
>>2012.
>
> I expect her to recede to a sort of Ollie North status,
> someone we can't ever shake, lurking there and commentating.
>
> Steve

she and fox news were made for each other. she's up for re-election as
governor in two years. if she gets beat (or maybe even before then), look
for her to dump the first dude and give up the mooseburgers for the high
life in some wingnut sinecure.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> don't you ever get tired of spouting false right-wing talking points?
>
> blake

I generally trust Fox news...
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama