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> I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal
> were married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for
> breakfast back in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
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Google.

http://tiny.cc/8vd7qhttp://tiny.cc/8vd7q

"History Of Breakfast In America
Chris Kimball, Of "America's Test Kitchen" And "Cook's Illustrated"
Offers A Lesson'

Photo's and Videos at above link.

Here's a timeline:
http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodfaq7.html

Gotta go to bed soon. Maybe wikipedia will have your answer.

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I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

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> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
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cereal, e.g. hot oatmeal or gruel.


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> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
>
> AlexM


But then, there's also the opposite!!! Who's to say that breakfast
can't be had for dinner!

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Bread and maybe some cheese.




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> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
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I rarely eat cereal for breakfast, my guess that it's one time a year or
less. However there are times that I will eat cereal as a before bed snack.


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>> I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
>> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
>> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
>>
>> AlexM

>
> But then, there's also the opposite!!! Who's to say that breakfast
> can't be had for dinner!
>
> Sky, who always enjoyed breakfast as a dinner treat!
>
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Me too! In fact, any time. I love doing a simple scramble with hot salsa and
cheddar shreds tossed on top in the end.


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> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?



The story I heard is that breakfast was made of foods that were on hand
and that cooked quickly. As the household got started, someone would
"do the chores" which included milking the cow, collecting the eggs from
the hens, and mucking out the stables. Then they'd come in for
breakfast. Meanwhile, another family member would have started the
fire. Breakfast would be a hearty meal of fresh milk, eggs which cook
quickly over the fire, and possibly a meat like ham or bacon, something
salted and preserved and therefore easily accessable in the house.
Cereal would fit that category of being on hand and easy to prepare
quickly. Later meals could be stews with long cooking meats or
vegetables, foods that wouldn't be picked or slaughtered until later in
the day.


That would all be for agrarian North America.


I googled on what breakfast would have been in the Middle Ages in a city
center like London. (It turns out that there are lots of travel sites
advertising Bed and Breakfasts with Medieval themes.) I found these
sites interesting:


http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...eval_engla.htm
http://www.castles-of-britain.com/castlesf.htm
http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~vaasjok...s/medfood.html


I didn't stay at the research long enough to find anything definitive.
I did get the idea that breakfast in Medieval London might have
consisted of bread, cheese and ale.


--Lia

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>> I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
>> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
>> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
>>
>> AlexM

>
> I rarely eat cereal for breakfast, my guess that it's one time a year or
> less. However there are times that I will eat cereal as a before bed snack.
>
>


I almost always have cereal or porridge for breakfast. In the summer I
have Shredded Wheat with sliced bananas, raisins or fresh berries on
top. In the winter I make oatmeal porridge. It sticks to the ribs and
keeps me going for the day. I cannot do the eggs and bacon thing for
breakfast.
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>>I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
>> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
>> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
>>

> cereal, e.g. hot oatmeal or gruel.


....which they likely also had for dinner.

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> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?


I have cereal for breakfast sometimes on the weekend or
vacation/holidays, when I'm home. Otherwise, I eat cereal for snacks
frequently.





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> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?


Rats?
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> I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> married to each other. *What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
>
> AlexM


Leftovers from the whole hog roasted the knight before. Or sometimes,
dragon filets, if George dropped in.

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> Leftovers from the whole hog roasted the knight before. *Or sometimes,
> dragon filets, if George dropped in.
>
> N


==================================

If George dropped in today I would feed him a (VERY) wild mushroom
omelet with beurre au hemlock. I'll just have tea and dry toast,
thanks.

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> > married to each other.



The fact that it is a huge industry must mean something.

After eating cereal everyday for years, I switched to one egg fried in
butter, a slice of buttered whole wheat homemade bread with lots of jam, and
a glass of milk daily. Correspondingly I feel better, have more energy, and
eat less during the day. I have never experienced more than normal amounts
of occasional heartburn and other gastric distress, but I now have even less
of those.

Too bad because I love cereal though.

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>If George dropped in today I would feed him a (VERY) wild mushroom
>omelet with beurre au hemlock. I'll just have tea and dry toast,
>thanks.



haha!


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> Alexm wrote:
> > I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> > married to each other. *What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> > in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

>
> The story I heard is that breakfast was made of foods that were on hand
> and that cooked quickly. *As the household got started, someone would
> "do the chores" which included milking the cow, collecting the eggs from
> the hens, and mucking out the stables. *Then they'd come in for
> breakfast. *Meanwhile, another family member would have started the
> fire. *Breakfast would be a hearty meal of fresh milk, eggs which cook
> quickly over the fire, and possibly a meat like ham or bacon, something
> salted and preserved and therefore easily accessable in the house.
> Cereal would fit that category of being on hand and easy to prepare
> quickly. *Later meals could be stews with long cooking meats or
> vegetables, foods that wouldn't be picked or slaughtered until later in
> the day.
>
> That would all be for agrarian North America.
>
> I googled on what breakfast would have been in the Middle Ages in a city
> center like London. *(It turns out that there are lots of travel sites
> advertising Bed and Breakfasts with Medieval themes.) *I found these
> sites interesting:
>
> http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...s/medfood.html
>
> I didn't stay at the research long enough to find anything definitive.
> I did get the idea that breakfast in Medieval London might have
> consisted of bread, cheese and ale.
>
> --Lia


Thanks for the references. Tomorrow for breakfast I shall have a hunk
of dark rye bread with cheese and wash it down with a mug of ale. It
was interesting to note that beers and ales were routinely used
instead of water to quench one's thirst.

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> > I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal
> > were married to each other. *What did the multitudes eat for
> > breakfast back in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

>
> Google.
>
> http://tiny.cc/8vd7qhttp://tiny.cc/8vd7q
>
> "History Of Breakfast In America
> Chris Kimball, Of "America's Test Kitchen" And "Cook's Illustrated"
> Offers A Lesson'
>
> Photo's and Videos at above link.
>
> Here's a timeline:http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodfaq7.html
>
> Gotta go to bed soon. *Maybe wikipedia will have your answer.
>
> :-)


And a very nice timeline. Thanks.

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On Aug 4, 8:44 am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> Alexm wrote:
> > I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> > married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> > in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

>
> The story I heard is that breakfast was made of foods that were on hand
> and that cooked quickly. As the household got started, someone would
> "do the chores" which included milking the cow, collecting the eggs from
> the hens, and mucking out the stables. Then they'd come in for
> breakfast. Meanwhile, another family member would have started the
> fire. Breakfast would be a hearty meal of fresh milk, eggs which cook
> quickly over the fire, and possibly a meat like ham or bacon, something
> salted and preserved and therefore easily accessable in the house.
> Cereal would fit that category of being on hand and easy to prepare
> quickly. Later meals could be stews with long cooking meats or
> vegetables, foods that wouldn't be picked or slaughtered until later in
> the day.
>
> That would all be for agrarian North America.
>
> I googled on what breakfast would have been in the Middle Ages in a city
> center like London. (It turns out that there are lots of travel sites
> advertising Bed and Breakfasts with Medieval themes.) I found these
> sites interesting:
>
> http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...s/medfood.html
>
> I didn't stay at the research long enough to find anything definitive.
> I did get the idea that breakfast in Medieval London might have
> consisted of bread, cheese and ale.
>
> --Lia


>Thanks for the references. Tomorrow for breakfast I shall have a hunk
>of dark rye bread with cheese and wash it down with a mug of ale. It
>was interesting to note that beers and ales were routinely used

i>nstead of water to quench one's thirst.

>AlexM


That sounds like a perfect breakfast to me!
People generally did not drink water because it was unsafe, contaminated by
waste .
www.advancenet.net/jscole/introfoodclass.pdf
This is an interesting site with info on medieval foods.


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> On Aug 4, 8:44*am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>> Alexm wrote:
>> > I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
>> > married to each other. *What did the multitudes eat for breakfast bac

k
>> > in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

>>
>> The story I heard is that breakfast was made of foods that were on hand
>> and that cooked quickly. *As the household got started, someone would
>> "do the chores" which included milking the cow, collecting the eggs from
>> the hens, and mucking out the stables. *Then they'd come in for
>> breakfast. *Meanwhile, another family member would have started the
>> fire. *Breakfast would be a hearty meal of fresh milk, eggs which cook
>> quickly over the fire, and possibly a meat like ham or bacon, something
>> salted and preserved and therefore easily accessable in the house.
>> Cereal would fit that category of being on hand and easy to prepare
>> quickly. *Later meals could be stews with long cooking meats or
>> vegetables, foods that wouldn't be picked or slaughtered until later in
>> the day.
>>
>> That would all be for agrarian North America.
>>
>> I googled on what breakfast would have been in the Middle Ages in a city
>> center like London. *(It turns out that there are lots of travel sites
>> advertising Bed and Breakfasts with Medieval themes.) *I found these
>> sites interesting:
>>
>>

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...eval_engla...h
>> ttp://www.castles-of-

britain.com/castlesf.htmhttp://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~
>> v aasjoki/exlibris/medfood.html
>>
>> I didn't stay at the research long enough to find anything definitive.
>> I did get the idea that breakfast in Medieval London might have
>> consisted of bread, cheese and ale.
>>
>> --Lia

>
> Thanks for the references. Tomorrow for breakfast I shall have a hunk
> of dark rye bread with cheese and wash it down with a mug of ale. It
> was interesting to note that beers and ales were routinely used
> instead of water to quench one's thirst.
>
> AlexM


Sure, back then the water might kill you, but the ale probably wouldn't.

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Part 1 The Kellogg Brothers;

Part 2 beer/ale and whatever else they could find to eat.
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Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)


The Kellogg's Company, headquartered in Battle Creek Michigan, is the
world's largest producer of cereals with annual sales over nine billion.
Their cereal line is flagshipped by their venerable Corn Flakes, but also
includes such famous brands as Rice Krispies, Frosted Flakes, and Special K
among others. Additional food lines include Keebler, Pop Tarts, Eggo, and
Nutri-Grain.

Kellogg's revolutionized breakfast in the USA. The Kellogg brothers
were part of the first health movement in America that warned about the
dangers of fatty, protein rich foods. Instead, they advocated a diet based
primarily on vegetables, grains and fiber. Their devotion to this dietary
regime gave rise to the Kellogg's company and the large consumption of
cereals that exists today.

Dr. John Harvey Kellogg (1852-1943) was a Seventh-day Adventist and
vegetarian. He recommended a plain diet for medical and moral reasons. His
belief, reinforced by the prevailing religious thinking, was that a diet
high in fat and protein, white bread, coffee and tea, as well as the use of
tobacco, could not produce a person chaste in thought.

Dr. Kellogg was appointed the superintendent of a sanitarium in Battle
Creek, Michigan. He believed the average invalid was suffering from bad
intestinal flora and needed less protein and more roughage in his diet. He
placed the patients on a strict and bland diet based on numerous vegetable
and nut products that he developed, the most famous being a flaked wheat
cereal called Granose. Granose's popularity was limited partially because
it, like many of his vegetable creations, was insipid and tasteless.
Constant experimenting with various recipes led to the invention in 1902 of
a cereal based on flakes of corn and flavored with barley malt. The infamous
Corn Flakes were born.

Will Keith Kellogg (1860-1951), better known as W.K. Kellogg, was the
younger brother of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and a clerk in the Battle Creek
sanitarium. He never had a formal education and worked as a stock boy and a
traveling broom salesman before being employed by his older brother. He
assisted his brother in the search for new cereal products to support the
vegetarian diet they both endorsed. Different sources credit one or the
other brother as the inventor of Granose and Corn Flakes, but it was most
likely a joint effort. W. K. Kellogg however, is the most famous since it
is he who began the Kellogg's company in 1906. He relentlessly set forth to
package, advertise, market, and sell their cereal products.

In 1924 W.K. expanded the business to Australia. Through the Great
Depression, while many firms were shrinking, he increased his advertising
and continued to expand the business. In 1938 he began selling his products
in England. Today, Kellogg's products are manufactured in 19 countries and
sold to more than 160 countries around the globe.

In addition to being a sound businessman W.K. Kellogg is also famous
for his philanthropic endeavors. In 1925 he established the Kellogg
Fellowship Corporation which played a role in the building of an
agricultural school, a bird sanctuary, and a reforesting project. In 1930
he created the W.K. Kellogg Child Welfare Foundation. The Foundation donated
large sums of money to many youth based causes such as a school for
handicapped children, a high school, a civic auditorium, and a youth
recreation center. The Foundation continues to this day and supports a large
variety of social causes.

Per capita consumption of breakfast cereals has steadily increased over
the years, while consumption of all other grain products, with the exception
of pasta have shown a decline. There has been some controversy about the
actual nutritional value of cereals. Cereals can be a good source of
protein without the added saturated fat that accompanies animal based
proteins. Whole wheat cereals certainly provide fiber, which is thought to
help prevent colon cancer. Non whole wheat cereals though, are stripped of
the wheat bran's outer layer and principal nutritional value. However,
almost all cereals are infused with a variety of vitamins and minerals.
This at least makes up for the vitamin loss in non whole wheat cereals but
not the roughage.

Many breakfast cereals have been criticized for their high sugar
content. Sugar was added to cereals early in the industry's history for a
very obvious reason: taste. Humans are inherently drawn to the taste of
sweetness. One can only speculate how many millions in sales this simple
additive created, mostly through the eager taste buds of children.

However, Kellogg's and the other major cereal companies all produce
varieties based on whole wheat, supplemented by vitamins and minerals, with
little or no added sugar. The cereal can be nutritiously sweetened by adding
fresh fruit. When combined with low fat milk, you produce a breakfast high
in nutrients and fiber and low in fat and cholesterol.

Interestingly, recent decades have seen a renewed interest in diets low
in fat and animal products and high in vegetables and fiber. There is
mounting clinical evidence to demonstrate the benefits of such a diet. In
part, America owes the origins of these ideas to the Kellogg brothers.

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>married to each other.


You might be interested in learning about the Kellogg brothers -- it's
an interesting story:
http://www.mrbreakfast.com/article.asp?articleid=13

"The Road to Wellville" is an entertaining book about Kellogg. It
was later made into a movie.

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> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:50:27 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> wrote:
>
>>I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
>>married to each other.

>
> You might be interested in learning about the Kellogg brothers -- it's
> an interesting story:
> http://www.mrbreakfast.com/article.asp?articleid=13
>
> "The Road to Wellville" is an entertaining book about Kellogg. It
> was later made into a movie.
>
> Tara
>


There is also a very good TV biography of the Kellogg brothers, probably an
echo of the book. The photos and film footage was very interesting.

--
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> I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> married to each other. What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?
>
> AlexM


Wine and bread. Maybe their trencher from the night before if it was too
disgusting to use again the coming evening.

TFM®

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> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:50:27 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> wrote:
>
>>I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
>>married to each other.

>
> You might be interested in learning about the Kellogg brothers -- it's
> an interesting story:
> http://www.mrbreakfast.com/article.asp?articleid=13
>
> "The Road to Wellville" is an entertaining book about Kellogg. It
> was later made into a movie.
>
> Tara


an all-american kook, god bless him.

your pal,
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On Aug 4, 2:04*pm, Alexm > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 8:44*am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Alexm wrote:
> > > I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> > > married to each other. *What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> > > in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

>
> > The story I heard is that breakfast was made of foods that were on hand
> > and that cooked quickly. *As the household got started, someone would
> > "do the chores" which included milking the cow, collecting the eggs from
> > the hens, and mucking out the stables. *Then they'd come in for
> > breakfast. *Meanwhile, another family member would have started the
> > fire. *Breakfast would be a hearty meal of fresh milk, eggs which cook
> > quickly over the fire, and possibly a meat like ham or bacon, something
> > salted and preserved and therefore easily accessable in the house.
> > Cereal would fit that category of being on hand and easy to prepare
> > quickly. *Later meals could be stews with long cooking meats or
> > vegetables, foods that wouldn't be picked or slaughtered until later in
> > the day.

>
> > That would all be for agrarian North America.

>
> > I googled on what breakfast would have been in the Middle Ages in a city
> > center like London. *(It turns out that there are lots of travel sites
> > advertising Bed and Breakfasts with Medieval themes.) *I found these
> > sites interesting:

>
> >http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...medieval_engla...

>
> > I didn't stay at the research long enough to find anything definitive.
> > I did get the idea that breakfast in Medieval London might have
> > consisted of bread, cheese and ale.

>
> > --Lia

>
> Thanks for the references. *Tomorrow for breakfast I shall have a hunk
> of dark rye bread with cheese and wash it down with a mug of ale. It
> was interesting to note that beers and ales were routinely used
> instead of water to quench one's thirst.
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On Aug 4, 1:17*pm, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 1:02*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
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> > Leftovers from the whole hog roasted the knight before. *Or sometimes,
> > dragon filets, if George dropped in.

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> > N

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> ==================================
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> If George dropped in today I would feed him a (VERY) wild mushroom
> omelet with beurre au hemlock. I'll just have tea and dry toast,
> thanks.
>
> Lynn in Fargo


I just now saw my "slip," spelling "knight" instead of "night." I'd
like to take credit for doing it on purpose, but I didn't. Pretty
funny.

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On Aug 4, 5:04*pm, Alexm > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 8:44*am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
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> > Alexm wrote:
> > > I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> > > married to each other. *What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
> > > in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?

>
> > The story I heard is that breakfast was made of foods that were on hand
> > and that cooked quickly. *As the household got started, someone would
> > "do the chores" which included milking the cow, collecting the eggs from
> > the hens, and mucking out the stables. *Then they'd come in for
> > breakfast. *Meanwhile, another family member would have started the
> > fire. *Breakfast would be a hearty meal of fresh milk, eggs which cook
> > quickly over the fire, and possibly a meat like ham or bacon, something
> > salted and preserved and therefore easily accessable in the house.
> > Cereal would fit that category of being on hand and easy to prepare
> > quickly. *Later meals could be stews with long cooking meats or
> > vegetables, foods that wouldn't be picked or slaughtered until later in
> > the day.

>
> > That would all be for agrarian North America.

>
> > I googled on what breakfast would have been in the Middle Ages in a city
> > center like London. *(It turns out that there are lots of travel sites
> > advertising Bed and Breakfasts with Medieval themes.) *I found these
> > sites interesting:

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> >http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...medieval_engla...

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> > I didn't stay at the research long enough to find anything definitive.
> > I did get the idea that breakfast in Medieval London might have
> > consisted of bread, cheese and ale.

>
> > --Lia

>
> Thanks for the references. *Tomorrow for breakfast I shall have a hunk
> of dark rye bread with cheese and wash it down with a mug of ale. It
> was interesting to note that beers and ales were routinely used
> instead of water to quench one's thirst.
>
> AlexM-

Given the possible state of the water in an urban environment Ale was
probably much safer.

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On Aug 5, 2:01*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 1:17*pm, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
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> > On Aug 4, 1:02*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:

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> > > Leftovers from the whole hog roasted the knight before. *Or sometimes,
> > > dragon filets, if George dropped in.

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> > > N

>
> > ==================================

>
> > If George dropped in today I would feed him a (VERY) wild mushroom
> > omelet with beurre au hemlock. I'll just have tea and dry toast,
> > thanks.

>
> > Lynn in Fargo

>
> I just now saw my "slip," spelling "knight" instead of "night." *I'd
> like to take credit for doing it on purpose, but I didn't. *Pretty
> funny.


And I was quite impressed.

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>> What did the multitudes eat for breakfast back
>> in the 1400-1700s in London, for example?


>Bread and maybe some cheese.


And beer. If there was flat, leftover beer from the previous
evening, it got drunk for breakfast.

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On Aug 4, 6:25*pm, "Dimitri" > wrote:
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> >I have often wondered who decided that breakfast and cereal were
> > married to each other.

>
> Part 1 *The Kellogg Brothers;
>
> Part 2 beer/ale and whatever else they could find to eat.
> --
> Old Scoundrel
>
> (AKA Dimitri)
>
> * The Kellogg's Company, headquartered in Battle Creek Michigan, is the
> world's largest producer of cereals with annual sales over nine billion.
> Their cereal line is flagshipped by their venerable Corn Flakes, but also
> includes such famous brands as Rice Krispies, Frosted Flakes, and Special K
> among others. *Additional food lines include Keebler, Pop Tarts, Eggo, and
> Nutri-Grain.
>
> * * *Kellogg's revolutionized breakfast in the USA. *The Kellogg brothers
> were part of the first health movement in America that warned about the
> dangers of fatty, protein rich foods. Instead, they advocated a diet based
> primarily on vegetables, grains and fiber. *Their devotion to this dietary
> regime gave rise to the Kellogg's company and the large consumption of
> cereals that exists today.
>
> * * *Dr. John Harvey Kellogg (1852-1943) was a Seventh-day Adventist and
> vegetarian. *He recommended a plain diet for medical and moral reasons. His
> belief, reinforced by the prevailing religious thinking, was that a diet
> high in fat and protein, white bread, coffee and tea, as well as the use of
> tobacco, could not produce a person chaste in thought.
>
> * * *Dr. Kellogg was appointed the superintendent of a sanitarium in Battle
> Creek, Michigan. *He believed the average invalid was suffering from bad
> intestinal flora and needed less protein and more roughage in his diet. He
> placed the patients on a strict and bland diet based on numerous vegetable
> and nut products that he developed, the most famous being a flaked wheat
> cereal called Granose. *Granose's popularity was limited partially because
> it, like many of his vegetable creations, was insipid and tasteless.
> Constant experimenting with various recipes led to the invention in 1902 of
> a cereal based on flakes of corn and flavored with barley malt. The infamous
> Corn Flakes were born.
>
> * * *Will Keith Kellogg (1860-1951), better known as W.K. Kellogg, was the
> younger brother of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and a clerk in the Battle Creek
> sanitarium. *He never had a formal education and worked as a stock boy and a
> traveling broom salesman before being employed by his older brother. He
> assisted his brother in the search for new cereal products to support the
> vegetarian diet they both endorsed. *Different sources credit one or the
> other brother as the inventor of Granose and Corn Flakes, but it was most
> likely a joint effort. *W. K. Kellogg however, is the most famous since it
> is he who began the Kellogg's company in 1906. *He relentlessly set forth to
> package, advertise, market, and sell their cereal products.
>
> * * *In 1924 W.K. expanded the business to Australia. *Through the Great
> Depression, while many firms were shrinking, he increased his advertising
> and continued to expand the business. In 1938 he began selling his products
> in England. *Today, Kellogg's products are manufactured in 19 countries and
> sold to more than 160 countries around the globe.
>
> * * *In addition to being a sound businessman W.K. Kellogg is also famous
> for his philanthropic endeavors. *In 1925 he established the Kellogg
> Fellowship Corporation which played a role in the building of an
> agricultural school, a bird sanctuary, and a reforesting project. *In 1930
> he created the W.K. Kellogg Child Welfare Foundation. The Foundation donated
> large sums of money to many youth based causes such as a school for
> handicapped children, a high school, a civic auditorium, and a youth
> recreation center. The Foundation continues to this day and supports a large
> variety of social causes.
>
> * * *Per capita consumption of breakfast cereals has steadily increased over
> the years, while consumption of all other grain products, with the exception
> of pasta have shown a decline. There has been some controversy about the
> actual nutritional value of cereals. *Cereals can be a good source of
> protein without the added saturated fat that accompanies animal based
> proteins. Whole wheat cereals certainly provide fiber, which is thought to
> help prevent colon cancer. *Non whole wheat cereals though, are stripped of
> the wheat bran's outer layer and principal nutritional value. *However,
> almost all cereals are infused with a variety of vitamins and minerals.
> This at least makes up for the vitamin loss in non whole wheat cereals but
> not the roughage.
>
> * * *Many breakfast cereals have been criticized for their high sugar
> content. Sugar was added to cereals early in the industry's history for a
> very obvious reason: *taste. *Humans are inherently drawn to the taste of
> sweetness. *One can only speculate how many millions in sales this simple
> additive created, mostly through the eager taste buds of children.
>
> * * *However, Kellogg's and the other major cereal companies all produce
> varieties based on whole wheat, supplemented by vitamins and minerals, with
> little or no added sugar. The cereal can be nutritiously sweetened by adding
> fresh fruit. When combined with low fat milk, you produce a breakfast high
> in nutrients and fiber and low in fat and cholesterol.
>
> * * *Interestingly, recent decades have seen a renewed interest in diets low
> in fat and animal products and high in vegetables and fiber. *There is
> mounting clinical evidence to demonstrate the benefits of such a diet. In
> part, America owes the origins of these ideas to the Kellogg brothers.


Although I was mainly concerned with what "commoners" ate for
breakfast in a great city like London some centuries ago, this account
of the Kellogg saga is quite a story. Thanks.

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> On Aug 4, 2:04 pm, Alexm > wrote:


>> Thanks for the references. Tomorrow for breakfast I shall have a hunk
>> of dark rye bread with cheese and wash it down with a mug of ale. It
>> was interesting to note that beers and ales were routinely used
>> instead of water to quench one's thirst.
>>
>> AlexM- Hide quoted text -


> Hair of the dog?


Contaminated water supplies.


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