I was in the new Oriental food store that opened
near me today, and I bought two unfamiliar
herbs. One is ngo on. It has many small
leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.

The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
stands for Viet Nam.

Anyone know for sure what these herbs are?

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
>I was in the new Oriental food store that opened
> near me today, and I bought two unfamiliar
> herbs. One is ngo on. It has many small
> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>
> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
> stands for Viet Nam.
>
> Anyone know for sure what these herbs are?

I don't know what you have, but try this site:


http://www.foodsubs.com/HerbsAsian.html

Kswck wrote on Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:56:07 -0400:


> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I was in the new Oriental food store that opened
>> near me today, and I bought two unfamiliar
>> herbs. One is ngo on. It has many small
>> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>>
>> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
>> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
>> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
>> stands for Viet Nam.
>>
>> Anyone know for sure what these herbs are?

> I don't know what you have, but try this site:
> http://www.foodsubs.com/HerbsAsian.html


As usual, Gernot Katzer's web site is a good place to look. In addition
to his search facility, he has a list of 10,000 names in different
languages and I found ngo on.

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Mark Thorson > wrote:

> One is ngo on. It has many small
> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>
> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
> stands for Viet Nam.

They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
<http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.

Victor

James Silverton wrote:
>
> As usual, Gernot Katzer's web site is a good place to look.
> In addition to his search facility, he has a list of 10,000
> names in different languages and I found ngo on.

That's it:

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Limn_aro.html

In article >, (Victor Sack) wrote:
>Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
>> One is ngo on. It has many small
>> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>>
>> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
>> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
>> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
>> stands for Viet Nam.
>
>They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
>rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
>The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
><http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.

G'day Victor,

For some unknown reason that latter web page blew the brain on my old
PC (MSIE 6.0 running under Windows ME in 128 MB RAM).

I wonder if anyone else had a problem with it? (I didn't try the
first one you listed -- not game to try again. :-)


Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:17:41 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Kswck wrote on Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:56:07 -0400:
>
>
>> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I was in the new Oriental food store that opened
>>> near me today, and I bought two unfamiliar
>>> herbs. One is ngo on. It has many small
>>> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>>>
>>> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
>>> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
>>> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
>>> stands for Viet Nam.
>>>
>>> Anyone know for sure what these herbs are?
>
>> I don't know what you have, but try this site:
>> http://www.foodsubs.com/HerbsAsian.html
>
>
>As usual, Gernot Katzer's web site is a good place to look. In addition
>to his search facility, he has a list of 10,000 names in different
>languages and I found ngo on.
>
>http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

katzer's site is indeed impressive.

your pal,
blake

Victor Sack wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > One is ngo on. It has many small
> > leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
> >
> > The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
> > and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
> > relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
> > stands for Viet Nam.
>
> They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
> rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
> The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
> <http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.

Thanks. Now my curiosity is fully satisfied.

Maybe I'll make up some little cards and place
them at the store display. Something like
"This is rau thom, not ranthom."

Phred > wrote:

> (Victor Sack) wrote:
> >
> >They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
> >rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
> >The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
> ><http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.
>
> For some unknown reason that latter web page blew the brain on my old
> PC (MSIE 6.0 running under Windows ME in 128 MB RAM).

Worked for me with Firefox and MSIE 6 on an NT box. Worked even with an
ancient Netscape version an a Mac and with MSIE 5. If something like
that doesn't work, it is usually the evil JavaScript, which is a virus,
as far as I am concerned. If you can, switch it off. The Web site,
though indeed full of it, is a nice, useful one, even if only relatively
few Vietnamese herbs are listed.

Victor

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:44:39 GMT, (Phred)
wrote:

>In article >, (Victor Sack) wrote:
>>Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>
>>> One is ngo on. It has many small
>>> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>>>
>>> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
>>> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
>>> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
>>> stands for Viet Nam.
>>
>>They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
>>rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
>>The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
>><http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.
>
>G'day Victor,
>
>For some unknown reason that latter web page blew the brain on my old
>PC (MSIE 6.0 running under Windows ME in 128 MB RAM).
>
>I wonder if anyone else had a problem with it? (I didn't try the
>first one you listed -- not game to try again. :-)
>
>
>Cheers, Phred.

no problem with firefox under millennium and same r.a.m.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:59:23 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:44:39 GMT, (Phred)
>wrote:
>
>>In article >, (Victor Sack) wrote:
>>>Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>>
>>>> One is ngo on. It has many small
>>>> leaves on a thick stem, and tastes rather bitter.
>>>>
>>>> The other is V. N. ranthom. The leaves, aroma,
>>>> and taste are like mint. It's either mint or a
>>>> relative of mint, like epizote. I'd guess V. N.
>>>> stands for Viet Nam.
>>>
>>>They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
>>>rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
>>>The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
>>><http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.
>>
>>G'day Victor,
>>
>>For some unknown reason that latter web page blew the brain on my old
>>PC (MSIE 6.0 running under Windows ME in 128 MB RAM).
>>
>>I wonder if anyone else had a problem with it? (I didn't try the
>>first one you listed -- not game to try again. :-)
>>
>>
>>Cheers, Phred.
>
>no problem with firefox under millennium and same r.a.m.
>
No problem here either (FF, XP, no idea how to find out about my RAM)
and the pages loaded unusually quickly, IMO.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >, (Victor Sack) wrote:
>Phred > wrote:
>
>> (Victor Sack) wrote:
>> >
>> >They are both misspelt/mistransliterated. The former herb is "ngô ôm",
>> >rice paddy herb. See <http://www.vietherbs.com/Rice_paddy-Ngo_Om.html>.
>> >The latter is "rau thom", spearmint. See
>> ><http://www.vietherbs.com/Spearmint-_Rau_thom.html>.
>>
>> For some unknown reason that latter web page blew the brain on my old
>> PC (MSIE 6.0 running under Windows ME in 128 MB RAM).
>
>Worked for me with Firefox and MSIE 6 on an NT box. Worked even with an
>ancient Netscape version an a Mac and with MSIE 5. If something like
>that doesn't work, it is usually the evil JavaScript, which is a virus,
>as far as I am concerned. If you can, switch it off. The Web site,
>though indeed full of it, is a nice, useful one, even if only relatively
>few Vietnamese herbs are listed.

Thanks for the reply Victor. I'll check out that JavaScript thing
tomorrow and give it a go again to see what happens.

In the meantime, I must second earlier comments by others about that
wonderful web site on spices put together by Gernot Katzer:

<http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/index.html>

Truly a work of love, commitment, and erudition.

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Phred > wrote:

> In the meantime, I must second earlier comments by others about that
> wonderful web site on spices put together by Gernot Katzer:
>
> <http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/index.html>
>
> Truly a work of love, commitment, and erudition.

All very true. That is why the link to the site has been in the rfc FAQ
since 1999. Gernot used to post on rfc when it was not yet regularly
drown in irrelevancies.

Victor