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ChattyCathy 05-05-2008 07:58 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Is that chip on your shoulder edible?


serene 05-05-2008 08:16 PM

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ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)


My choice isn't listed. I don't mind strong language at all. What I
mind is people yelling at people. I don't watch Jerry Springer. I
don't watch heated debates on TV. I don't listen to call-in radio. I
like my life pretty close to anger-free, and I don't go seeking out
ways to watch people being angry with each other.

Serene

Ali 05-05-2008 08:25 PM

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I'm with you on that one Serene, 100%!


"Serene" > wrote in message
...

>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)



> My choice isn't listed. I don't mind strong language at all. What I mind
> is people yelling at people. I don't watch Jerry Springer. I don't watch
> heated debates on TV. I don't listen to call-in radio. I like my life
> pretty close to anger-free, and I don't go seeking out ways to watch
> people being angry with each other.
>
> Serene



notbob 05-05-2008 08:32 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 
On 2008-05-05, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)


As one who can, and occassionally does, swear like a drunken sailor, no, I
don't find his swearing offensive. In fact, I often find it hilarious and
most appropriate. I'd be reduced to using much the same language as Gordon
if I was to deal with some of these bozos. I have no idea where he ...or
his staff.... find these total losers, but I suspect they are picked just so
he can vent in his oh so graphic manner.

What really astonsishes me is the low caliber of skill displayed by some of
these so called "chefs". If one is to believe his show, half of the UK has
the worst, most untalented, hacks in the universe working at them. we're
used to watching tv and seeing all these fancy schmancy cooking shows with
the best ingredients and newly graduated academy chefs dying for a chance to
prove themselves and Ramsey presents a picture of the worst sort. Totally
clueless hacks that would be an embarrasement at a burger chain and who
seemingly don't have clue on how to cook, run a business, deal with ppl, or
even keep a day to day job! I sometimes wonder if the whole thing isn't
staged.

nb

Fritz Tynan 05-05-2008 08:41 PM

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ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)


Well Whaddya know! I was first! Got any dunce caps left?

As for bad language on cooking shows, not too many children watch them.
When I was growing up the word "damn" in "Gone With the Wind" had the
populace up in arms. Wonder what they'd think with today's popular
media?

--
Talk atcha later,
Fritz Tynan-Seattle, WA

ChattyCathy 05-05-2008 08:48 PM

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On Mon, 05 May 2008 12:16:48 -0700, Serene wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)

>
> My choice isn't listed. I don't mind strong language at all. What I mind
> is people yelling at people. I don't watch Jerry Springer. I don't watch
> heated debates on TV. I don't listen to call-in radio. I like my life
> pretty close to anger-free, and I don't go seeking out ways to watch
> people being angry with each other.


I don't mind strong language per se... but I do find it a bit 'out of
place' in some cooking shows. For example, I like watching the various
Jamie Oliver shows - the first series I saw was shot in his 'own home' and
nary a 'bad word' was spoken. Then I saw the series where he picked those
youngsters from all walks of life and tried to 'turn them into chefs'. It
was much more of a reality show, I admit - and yet I still felt slightly
taken aback when I heard him using 'four letter words' in the kitchen.
Silly of me I know.

I'm with you about the 'yelling' thing. I don't watch Jerry Springer
anymore for that very reason..

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Is that chip on your shoulder edible?


James Silverton[_2_] 05-05-2008 08:59 PM

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Fritz wrote on Mon, 5 May 2008 12:41:40 -0700:

>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)


> Well Whaddya know! I was first! Got any dunce caps left?


> As for bad language on cooking shows, not too many children
> watch them. When I was growing up the word "damn" in "Gone
> With the Wind" had the populace up in arms. Wonder what they'd
> think with today's popular media?


Ramsay's language seems to be "bleeped out" on BBC America. The
bleeping is rather distracting and I don't care to watch the
show with or without it. To tell the truth, I seldom watch any
cooking shows. I may be wrong but I felt that I could sense the
managers holding up placards saying "Clap" or "Cheer" on
Emeril's show.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Sheldon 05-05-2008 09:15 PM

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ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)


Just because the settings are various eateries I don't consider that a
cooking show... I watched it once, it's low class slapstick...
culinarilly it has no redeeming value whatsoever.


Dave Smith[_1_] 05-05-2008 09:29 PM

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Serene wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)

>
> My choice isn't listed. I don't mind strong language at all. What I
> mind is people yelling at people. I don't watch Jerry Springer. I
> don't watch heated debates on TV. I don't listen to call-in radio. I
> like my life pretty close to anger-free, and I don't go seeking out
> ways to watch people being angry with each other.


I don't have a problem with the odd profanity. One of my favourite TV
shows is The Trailer Park Boys, and I imagine that the American version
of that show is just a series of censor beeps. I do have a problem with
Gordon Ramsey using profanity, but I do have a problem with his abusive
language.

However....... a lot of the celebrity cooks need some grammar lessons
and a wider vocabulary.


Nancy Young 05-05-2008 10:00 PM

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"notbob" > wrote

> What really astonsishes me is the low caliber of skill displayed by some
> of
> these so called "chefs". If one is to believe his show, half of the UK
> has
> the worst, most untalented, hacks in the universe working at them. we're
> used to watching tv and seeing all these fancy schmancy cooking shows with
> the best ingredients and newly graduated academy chefs dying for a chance
> to
> prove themselves and Ramsey presents a picture of the worst sort. Totally
> clueless hacks that would be an embarrasement at a burger chain and who
> seemingly don't have clue on how to cook, run a business, deal with ppl,
> or
> even keep a day to day job! I sometimes wonder if the whole thing isn't
> staged.


I wondered that myself. I watched a few shows and you can see the
same plot develop each time. Where are the customers, this place is
empty. Inept and argumentative manager, helpless owner. Crappy
menu, some screaming and fighting, manager sees the error of his ways
or he leaves, never to darken the door again. Etc.

nancy.

nancy



Dan Abel 05-05-2008 10:13 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 
In article >,
(Fritz Tynan) wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
> >
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

> As for bad language on cooking shows, not too many children watch them.


I went to visit my brother a couple of months back. Cooking shows were
the only tv that my niece watched (she's nine). She liked to help my
brother cook, too.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


David Alt 05-05-2008 10:45 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' oncooking shows
 
i agree; life is tense enough without yelling and shouting, the da.


David Alt 05-05-2008 10:45 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' oncooking shows
 
i agree; life is tense enough without yelling and shouting, the da.


Cindi - HappyMamatoThree 05-05-2008 11:02 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' oncooking shows
 

"David Alt" > wrote in message
...
>i agree; life is tense enough without yelling and shouting, the da.
>


Sometimes scream therapy is an effective method of relieving stress. Just
open up and let loose.

Cindi



TammyM[_2_] 05-05-2008 11:39 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 

"l, not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 5-May-2008, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy
>>
>> Is that chip on your shoulder edible?

>
> I answered MCINL because I've only seen one cooking show where "bad"
> language was used, and that was Bourdain's Cooks Tour; I wasn't offended,
> nor particularly concerned about his language. His show offered more than
> enough entertainment and enlightenment about food around the world, that
> the
> value exceeded any negatives. With Alton Brown, Sara Moulton, Ming Tsai
> and
> others that I watch, language has never been an issue and they have
> delivered the kind of shows I prefer to watch.
>
> With regard to Gordon Ramsay, based upon the promo's for his show, I
> didn't
> think of it as a cooking show, nor him as someone I'd want to watch waste
> time watching; I don't find loud-mouthed bullies to be interesting. I
> think
> "reality" shows in general are a load of crap and the promo's make his
> look
> like whale crap, which would be about the lowest crap you could find.
> Perhaps there is some learning about food that could be gotten from the
> show, but I'll not know because the promo's turned me away - there are
> just
> too many better ways to spend my time.


I used to occasionally catch a British TV show whereby the person's favorite
chef "surprised" them by coming by and showing them how to cook a particular
meal. Some of the people featured (particularly Ainsley Harriott) were just
lovely and you'd want to hang out with them no matter what. Gordon Ramsay
was on one of these episodes, looking decidedly uncomfortable - it was as if
his soon-to-be-ex-agent had got him into something and couldn't get him out.
There was nary a !($#*( nor a (@*$)@* out of him. Nevertheless, he still
came off as an ass.

TammyM, would like for Anthony Bourdain to come over and help her "cook"
<leer> (SHUT UP, GOOMBA, HE'S MINE!!!!)



Pete C. 05-05-2008 11:46 PM

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Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>
> "David Alt" > wrote in message
> ...
> >i agree; life is tense enough without yelling and shouting, the da.
> >

>
> Sometimes scream therapy is an effective method of relieving stress. Just
> open up and let loose.
>
> Cindi


A trip to the local shooting range works well.

jmcquown 06-05-2008 01:20 AM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 
Nancy Young wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote
>
>> What really astonsishes me is the low caliber of skill displayed by
>> some of
>> these so called "chefs". (snip)
>> Totally clueless hacks that would be an embarrasement at a burger
>> chain and who seemingly don't have clue on how to cook, run a
>> business, deal with ppl, or
>> even keep a day to day job! I sometimes wonder if the whole thing
>> isn't staged.

>
> I wondered that myself. I watched a few shows and you can see the
> same plot develop each time. Where are the customers, this place is
> empty. Inept and argumentative manager, helpless owner. Crappy
> menu, some screaming and fighting, manager sees the error of his ways
> or he leaves, never to darken the door again. Etc.
>

You're thinking of 'Kitchen Nightmares'. I was thinking 'Hell's Kitchen'.
Either way, they bleep his language.

Jill



Wayne Boatwright[_4_] 06-05-2008 02:51 AM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 
On Mon 05 May 2008 03:39:43p, TammyM told us...

>
> "l, not -l" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> On 5-May-2008, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>
>>> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>> Chatty Cathy
>>>
>>> Is that chip on your shoulder edible?

>>
>> I answered MCINL because I've only seen one cooking show where "bad"
>> language was used, and that was Bourdain's Cooks Tour; I wasn't
>> offended, nor particularly concerned about his language. His show
>> offered more than enough entertainment and enlightenment about food
>> around the world, that the value exceeded any negatives. With Alton
>> Brown, Sara Moulton, Ming Tsai and others that I watch, language has
>> never been an issue and they have delivered the kind of shows I prefer
>> to watch.
>>
>> With regard to Gordon Ramsay, based upon the promo's for his show, I
>> didn't think of it as a cooking show, nor him as someone I'd want to
>> watch waste time watching; I don't find loud-mouthed bullies to be
>> interesting. I think "reality" shows in general are a load of crap
>> and the promo's make his look like whale crap, which would be about
>> the lowest crap you could find. Perhaps there is some learning about
>> food that could be gotten from the show, but I'll not know because the
>> promo's turned me away - there are just too many better ways to spend
>> my time.

>
> I used to occasionally catch a British TV show whereby the person's
> favorite chef "surprised" them by coming by and showing them how to cook
> a particular meal. Some of the people featured (particularly Ainsley
> Harriott) were just lovely and you'd want to hang out with them no
> matter what. Gordon Ramsay was on one of these episodes, looking
> decidedly uncomfortable - it was as if his soon-to-be-ex-agent had got
> him into something and couldn't get him out. There was nary a !($#*( nor
> a (@*$)@* out of him. Nevertheless, he still came off as an ass.


That's because he is an ass.
>
> TammyM, would like for Anthony Bourdain to come over and help her "cook"
> <leer> (SHUT UP, GOOMBA, HE'S MINE!!!!)
>
>
>




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blake murphy[_2_] 06-05-2008 05:06 PM

(2008-05-05) New survey on the RFC site: 'Bad language' on cooking shows
 
On Mon, 5 May 2008 12:41:40 -0700, (Fritz Tynan)
wrote:

>ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>>
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> You can blame Gordon Ramsay for this one ;-)

>
>Well Whaddya know! I was first! Got any dunce caps left?
>
>As for bad language on cooking shows, not too many children watch them.
>When I was growing up the word "damn" in "Gone With the Wind" had the
>populace up in arms. Wonder what they'd think with today's popular
>media?


they'd think it was completely ****ed.

your pal,
blake

Cindi - HappyMamatoThree 06-05-2008 05:32 PM

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"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
>
> Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>>
>> "David Alt" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >i agree; life is tense enough without yelling and shouting, the da.
>> >

>>
>> Sometimes scream therapy is an effective method of relieving stress. Just
>> open up and let loose.
>>
>> Cindi

>
> A trip to the local shooting range works well.


Ah that too. Growing up we just took my grandfather's shotgun down into our
woods and he taught us how to use it safely but effectively.

Cindi

ObFood:

A piece of sourdough bread toasted to golden then topped with butter and
orange blossom honey from a beekeeper about 20 miles a way, beautiful stuff
with a little bit of citrus flavor, was breakfast.

C




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