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I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised beds
that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to hire
some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll be there
too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work), then we'll
plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and blueberries in a
third.

It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good for
the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.

Then we'll see where to go from there.

We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
grown-up. This is gonna be fun!

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>I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised beds
>that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to hire
>some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll be there
>too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work), then we'll
>plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and blueberries in a
>third.
>
>It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good for
>the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>
>Then we'll see where to go from there.
>
>We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
>grown-up. This is gonna be fun!


Cool.

I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
and my aversion to using poisons.)

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Steve Pope wrote:
> Miche > wrote:
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>> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised
>> beds that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to
>> hire some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll
>> be there too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work),
>> then we'll plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and
>> blueberries in a third.
>>
>> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good
>> for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>>
>> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>>
>> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
>> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!

>
> Cool.
>
> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
> and my aversion to using poisons.)
>
> Steve

sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
Janet


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Janet Bostwick > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:


>> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
>> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
>> and my aversion to using poisons.)


>sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.



I don't much eat eggs. (Like a half dozen every couple months.)
And there were literally hundreds of snails approaching the vegetable
patch every evening. Wouldn't you need a lot of eggshells to
fend them off?

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> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
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>>Steve Pope wrote:

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>>> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
>>> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
>>> and my aversion to using poisons.)

>
>>sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.


> I don't much eat eggs. (Like a half dozen every couple months.)
> And there were literally hundreds of snails approaching the vegetable
> patch every evening. Wouldn't you need a lot of eggshells to
> fend them off?


Diatomaceous Earth accomplishes the same thing, you can
buy that.

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> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas,
> beans (good for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and
> broccoli.


put the Jerusalem artichokes in a container. do not just stick
them in the garden or you will regret it for as long as you
live there.
the previous owner of my house planted them. i've been here 9
years & i'm still pulling & digging the damned things out...
it's karma. i planted them at the house i moved from
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>"Steve Pope" > wrote


>> Wouldn't you need a lot of eggshells to
>> fend them off?


>Diatomaceous Earth accomplishes the same thing, you can
>buy that.


Thanks.

I would have to re-think my garden design to find a place
to put the diatomaceous earth. (Basically, I had a redwood-side
raised bed in the middle of a driveway. I could build another
ring around it filled with diatomaceous earth, as a snail barrier.)

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> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
> and my aversion to using poisons.)


I've heard that putting out a dish of beer
will attract them, then they drown in it.

A google search finds this:

http://www.sustainable-gardening-tip...en-snails.html

It's a comprehensive discussion of anti-snail methods.
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enigma > wrote:

> Miche > wrote in
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> > It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas,
> > beans (good for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and
> > broccoli.

>
> put the Jerusalem artichokes in a container. do not just stick
> them in the garden or you will regret it for as long as you
> live there.


Ah, thanks for the warning.

> the previous owner of my house planted them. i've been here 9
> years & i'm still pulling & digging the damned things out...
> it's karma. i planted them at the house i moved from


I'm happy to let spuds colonise but since we're only growing Jerusalems
for one person (the MIL, it's her land we're growing on) I'm relcutant
to let them do so.

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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
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>sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>Janet
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Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?

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> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
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>> sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>> Janet
>>

>
> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?
>
> Boron


Huh!! No, and I'm very thankful that they are not a problem for me. The
raccoons and squirrels and feral cats (all close friends of my dog) are
enough of a problem. Sorry
Janet




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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:00:11 +1200, Miche >
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>Jerusalem artichokes


You're going to enjoy them on different levels. They have pretty
flowers too!

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> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
> >sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
> >Janet
> >

>
> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?


Dogs?

No groundhogs in NZ, though.

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Miche wrote:
> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised beds
> that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to hire
> some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll be there
> too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work), then we'll
> plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and blueberries in a
> third.
>



That sounds great. Be aware that strawberries and
blueberries may
need protection from the birds as soon as they begin to ripen.
People often build a wooden frame and drape netting over it
for protection.

Blueberries need acid soil. If yours is alkaline, acid
fertilizer
and/or peat moss helps.

Enjoy!

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> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>> sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>> Janet
>>

>
> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?
>
> Boron



When we lived in RI, our solution was a shotgun. My husband
and a neighbor would run a hose into their tunnel and watch for
them to emerge from the other opening. POW!

They are a real pest in the garden. You plant seedlings, come
out the next morning, and it looks as though someone has run a
lawnmower over the plants.

One year we tried putting up a wire fence around the corn. They
tunneled right under it and came up in the middle of the plants.

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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:19:07 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
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>put the Jerusalem artichokes in a container. do not just stick
>them in the garden or you will regret it for as long as you
>live there.
> the previous owner of my house planted them. i've been here 9
>years & i'm still pulling & digging the damned things out...
>it's karma. i planted them at the house i moved from


It's because they are tubers. I have the same "problem" with calla
lilies.

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>Huh, there you go. I don't think any of my friends are, but then I
>don't know the med status of most of my friends.


You're not old enough. That day will come..... LOL

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"Miche" > wrote in message
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> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised beds
> that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to hire
> some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll be there
> too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work), then we'll
> plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and blueberries in a
> third.
>
> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good for
> the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>
> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>
> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!


Our plants went in the ground today. It was really lovely here at 70 degrees
with a nice breeze blowing. We had the doors open and added some lovely
fresh air to our indoors as well.

Hubby, the kidlets and I got out and worked in the dirt all day. It's nice
to have a family activity that is good for us in so many ways; exercise,
time together, fresh veggies for the summer. Our son is always very excited
about the garden and loves to water and weed and then head out there every
day after school to see if there is anything ready to pick. All of us worked
together and decided to plant cucumbers, two kinds of eggplant, tomatoes
including tommytoes and goldens, red yellow and green bells, jalapenos, red
chile, and sweet banana peppers and green and yellow onions. The kidlets
want us to add canteloupes and pumpkins. We will keep our eyes open for
those.

Enjoy your garden. I am sure it will be fun and healthy.

Cindi

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> wrote:

[snails]

>If you're there when they are, the time is right for picking them.
>After that - either eat them or drown them.


Definitely, the way I've tried to deal with this in the past
is mechanically removing the snails. (I would then put them
in the city-supplied plastic garbage unit, where they would
remain until garbage day.)

Around dusk, the snails would come out of hiding and head
towards the garden. I would pick them off at this point.
Where I failed is that I couldn't be there every evening --
sometimes I'd have to work late, or be gone for the weekend --
and after a few such evenings where I didn't defend my garden,
it was totally destroyed.

It is amazing how much snails can eat. I think they're
related to Humboldt Squids.

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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:21:47 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
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>Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>>> Janet
>>>

>>
>> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?
>>
>> Boron

>
>Huh!! No, and I'm very thankful that they are not a problem for me. The
>raccoons and squirrels and feral cats (all close friends of my dog) are
>enough of a problem. Sorry
>Janet
>


Sigh.

They are a real problem here. In fact, I grown a lot of my veggies up
on the deck and The Hub built a barrier so the critter cannot climb up
to it.

They have eaten though wooden fencing, climbed up on high planters,
dug under fences. Wicked, wicked bastiches. We've live trapped them at
times, but it does little good as there are always more to take
stirrer place.

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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:25:20 +1200, Miche >
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>In article >,
> Boron Elgar > wrote:
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>> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>> >Janet
>> >

>>
>> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?

>
>Dogs?
>
>No groundhogs in NZ, though.
>
>Miche



I have a bichon and any groundhog would win the battle, but even
friends with large dogs can't get rid of them.

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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:33:16 GMT, Puester >
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>Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>>> Janet
>>>

>>
>> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?
>>
>> Boron

>
>
>When we lived in RI, our solution was a shotgun. My husband
>and a neighbor would run a hose into their tunnel and watch for
>them to emerge from the other opening. POW!


That is the only answer, but illegal where I live, My former next door
neighbor was a cop. When I mentioned to his wife about the groundhogs,
she suggested that I "Let Ed take care of it." Ed's retired and
living in Montana now.
>
>They are a real pest in the garden. You plant seedlings, come
>out the next morning, and it looks as though someone has run a
>lawnmower over the plants.


They like to wait until veggies are ripe...I spent months growing
Brussels sprout and just before the first frost, those critters came
and ate them, leaving only the stalk behind.
>
>One year we tried putting up a wire fence around the corn. They
>tunneled right under it and came up in the middle of the plants.


They have been known to destroy building foundations.

Boron
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If you're going to get rid of snails and slugs manually, one of the
easiest ways to do it is just to go outside every dawn and dusk with a
salt shaker. Sprinkle each. It kills them in seconds. While I don't
believe they feel pain, there's some satisfaction in watching them shrivel.


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Janet Bostwick wrote:
> Steve Pope wrote:
>> Miche > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised
>>> beds that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to
>>> hire some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll
>>> be there too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work),
>>> then we'll plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and
>>> blueberries in a third.
>>>
>>> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good
>>> for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>>>
>>> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>>>
>>> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
>>> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!

>> Cool.
>>
>> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
>> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
>> and my aversion to using poisons.)
>>
>> Steve

> sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
> Janet
>
>

Copper also keeps snails away. I found some cheap copper scrubbers in a
hardware store, stretched each to form a ring, laid them on the surface
of the garden bed and planted a tomato plant in the centre of each; no
slugs or snails have ever bothered anything grown this way. They're
reusable as well; it doesn't matter that the copper oxidizes over the years.
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>On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:58:41 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:
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>>sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>>Janet
>>

>
>Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?
>

Dogs


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>>sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>>Janet
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>
> Got any good ideas to keep groundhogs away?
>
> Boron


Mothballs.
Grind them up (or put in a bag and smash w/ a hammer) mix w/ dirt and
spread around their den.
Works perfectly for skunks as well.


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"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
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> Steve Pope wrote:
>> Miche > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised
>>> beds that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to
>>> hire some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll
>>> be there too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work),
>>> then we'll plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and
>>> blueberries in a third.
>>>
>>> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good
>>> for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>>>
>>> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>>>
>>> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
>>> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!

>>
>> Cool.
>>
>> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
>> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
>> and my aversion to using poisons.)
>>
>> Steve

> sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
> Janet


Does this work for slugs too?


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>> Janet

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> Does this work for slugs too?


They're pretty much the same thing, very closely related.

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Miche wrote:
> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised beds
> that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to hire
> some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll be there
> too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work), then we'll
> plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and blueberries in a
> third.
>
> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good for
> the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>
> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>
> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!
>
> Miche
>


I'm jealous! I have green beans, chives and tomatoes in pots. Have fun!

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> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Steve Pope wrote:
> >> Miche > wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised
> >>> beds that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to
> >>> hire some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll
> >>> be there too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work),
> >>> then we'll plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and
> >>> blueberries in a third.
> >>>
> >>> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good
> >>> for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
> >>>
> >>> Then we'll see where to go from there.
> >>>
> >>> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
> >>> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!
> >>
> >> Cool.
> >>
> >> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
> >> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
> >> and my aversion to using poisons.)
> >>
> >> Steve

> > sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
> > Janet

>
> Does this work for slugs too?


Yep!

You can also make them a beer bath. They climb in and don't climb out.

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> Miche wrote:
> > I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised beds
> > that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to hire
> > some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll be there
> > too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work), then we'll
> > plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and blueberries in a
> > third.
> >

>
>
> That sounds great. Be aware that strawberries and
> blueberries may
> need protection from the birds as soon as they begin to ripen.
> People often build a wooden frame and drape netting over it
> for protection.
>
> Blueberries need acid soil. If yours is alkaline, acid
> fertilizer
> and/or peat moss helps.


Thanks gloria! We knew about the bird netting -- I've grown
strawberries before.

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>> > Steve Pope wrote:
>> >> Miche > wrote:
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>> >>> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised
>> >>> beds that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to
>> >>> hire some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll
>> >>> be there too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work),
>> >>> then we'll plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and
>> >>> blueberries in a third.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good
>> >>> for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>> >>>
>> >>> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
>> >>> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!
>> >>
>> >> Cool.
>> >>
>> >> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what really
>> >> did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in California. (That,
>> >> and my aversion to using poisons.)
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> > sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep snails away.
>> > Janet

>>
>> Does this work for slugs too?

>
> Yep!
>
> You can also make them a beer bath. They climb in and don't climb out.
>
> Miche
>
> --
> Electricians do it in three phases


This morning my DH informed me that we don't have slugs or snails .. but
grubs.
Sometimes I wish that we still rented ... so that someone else could deal w/
this stuff. lol


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