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ChattyCathy wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:55:02 +0200:

C> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for
C> 'inspiring' this one....

Interesting survey! I'm going back to look at the results after
an hour or two. Around here, the smoking question is becoming a
moot point. Very few restaurants have smoking even if the law
allows it. To be honest, I've never worried about it too much
unless the ventilation was very ineffective. However, it's
surprising how much more the smell of stale cigaret smoke
irritates me as the years go by. I can remember when I hardly
noticed it!


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> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for 'inspiring' this

one....


Over the river in Atlantic City, NJ, they're tossing around the idea of
smoke-free casinos.

Being an ex-smoker, I AM disturbed by the noxious stink of 2nd hand smoke.
Gambling and smoking, what a perfect match! They deserve each other.

Nor do I eat at restaurants. I became a good cook years ago. Saved a bundle
and packed on the pounds in the process!

Maybe I should take up roulette?

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> ChattyCathy wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:55:02 +0200:
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> C> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for
> C> 'inspiring' this one....
>
> Interesting survey! I'm going back to look at the results after an hour
> or two.


Thanks James. I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per head - for
one evening - and that's excluding the 'wine list"? And according to
some googling I did, USD300 per head is not unheard of either in some of
the 'fanciest' USA restaurants! Good grief - I could feed a family of
3-4 pretty well for a month on USD300 (at least, I could if I do a
conversion to our local South African currency ).

I'd heard that eating out in the USA (and Europe) was expensive in
'fancy' restaurants - but I didn't realize just how expensive it had
become. When it gets that bad here, I guess my 'fancy' dining days will
be over, because even if I could afford it, I think I'd feel too guilty
to eat it.. I'll rather buy the ingredients and (attempt to) make some
of the dishes myself - which will be fun, so come to think of it, what
am I worried about? LOL!
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> [..] I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the
> 'wine list"? [..]


Experience "The French Laundry" in Yountville and you'll
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>> [..] I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
>> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the
>> 'wine list"? [..]

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> Experience "The French Laundry" in Yountville and you'll
> understand the draw.
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> The Ranger
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The French Laundry - Hmmmm. Hope the food doesn't smell like dirty
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>
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> > wrote:
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>> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for 'inspiring' this one....
>>
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ChattyCathy wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:53:49 +0200:

C> James Silverton wrote:
??>> ChattyCathy wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:55:02 +0200:
??>>
C>>> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for
C>>> 'inspiring' this one....
??>>
??>> Interesting survey! I'm going back to look at the results
??>> after an hour or two.

C> Thanks James. I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
C> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the 'wine
C> list"? And according to some googling I did, USD300 per
C> head is not unheard of either in some of the 'fanciest' USA
C> restaurants! Good grief - I could feed a family of 3-4
C> pretty well for a month on USD300 (at least, I could if I
C> do a conversion to our local South African currency ).

C> I'd heard that eating out in the USA (and Europe) was
C> expensive in 'fancy' restaurants - but I didn't realize just
C> how expensive it had become. When it gets that bad here, I
C> guess my 'fancy' dining days will be over, because even if I
C> could afford it, I think I'd feel too guilty to eat it..
C> I'll rather buy the ingredients and (attempt to) make some
C> of the dishes myself - which will be fun, so come to think
C> of it, what am I worried about? LOL!

Restaurants with food costs approaching $300 do exist. There are
two in the US to which Michelin has justifiably given three
stars but most of them are places in cities like New York where
people go to be seen. My cardiologist and my bank manager would
call me a fool if I ate in either of the 3-star
restaurants....sour grapes, pehaps.

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TR> ChattyCathy > wrote in message
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??>> [..] I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
??>> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the
??>> 'wine list"? [..]

TR> Experience "The French Laundry" in Yountville and you'll
TR> understand the draw.

How did you manage to get a reservation?

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>My cardiologist and my bank manager would
>call me a fool if I ate in either of the 3-star
>restaurants....sour grapes, pehaps.


I'm sure you can get a heart healthy menu at $300 a plate. If you
can't, there's a problem. However, your bank manager may be onto
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Figures.

Probably the most expensive restaurant I've visited was
Four Seasons in Manhattan. I don't know what it cost, but you
know it was expensive. Technically it was a shareholder's meeting,
the company being owned by my ex and his father and another
partner. The surroundings/ambiance/whatever you'd like to call
it certain was a large factor in the overall cost of the meal. Our table
was in the pool room. The famous types would have been in the
Grill Room.

http://www.fourseasonsrestaurant.com/index2.htm

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??>> My cardiologist and my bank manager would
??>> call me a fool if I ate in either of the 3-star
??>> restaurants....sour grapes, pehaps.

s> I'm sure you can get a heart healthy menu at $300 a plate.
s> If you can't, there's a problem. However, your bank manager
s> may be onto something.

I'm sure they might consider providing a healthy meal but it
would almost certainly possess little of the tastes and textures
that make famous the French Laundry and, nearer to home for me,
the Inn at Little Washington. There was a relatively expensive
place my wife and I used to go to for anniversaries and they
would adjust things for me but I don't think I would have eaten
there on my own initiative.


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> sf wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:17:37 -0700:
>
> ??>> My cardiologist and my bank manager would
> ??>> call me a fool if I ate in either of the 3-star
> ??>> restaurants....sour grapes, pehaps.
>
> s> I'm sure you can get a heart healthy menu at $300 a plate.
> s> If you can't, there's a problem. However, your bank manager
> s> may be onto something.
>
>I'm sure they might consider providing a healthy meal but it
>would almost certainly possess little of the tastes and textures
>that make famous the French Laundry and, nearer to home for me,
>the Inn at Little Washington. There was a relatively expensive
>place my wife and I used to go to for anniversaries and they
>would adjust things for me but I don't think I would have eaten
>there on my own initiative.
>

You probably wouldn't. Men usually want simple and filling, romantic
and pretty isn't high on their list (unless they have an agenda).

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:20:26 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

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>"ChattyCathy" > wrote
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>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for 'inspiring' this one....

>
>Figures.
>
>Probably the most expensive restaurant I've visited was
>Four Seasons in Manhattan. I don't know what it cost, but you
>know it was expensive. Technically it was a shareholder's meeting,
>the company being owned by my ex and his father and another
>partner. The surroundings/ambiance/whatever you'd like to call
>it certain was a large factor in the overall cost of the meal. Our table
>was in the pool room. The famous types would have been in the
>Grill Room.
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>http://www.fourseasonsrestaurant.com/index2.htm
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I think your room was the prettiest.

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> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:20:26 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:


>>Probably the most expensive restaurant I've visited was
>>Four Seasons in Manhattan. I don't know what it cost, but you
>>know it was expensive. Technically it was a shareholder's meeting,
>>the company being owned by my ex and his father and another
>>partner. The surroundings/ambiance/whatever you'd like to call
>>it certain was a large factor in the overall cost of the meal. Our table
>>was in the pool room. The famous types would have been in the
>>Grill Room.
>>
>>http://www.fourseasonsrestaurant.com/index2.htm
>>

> I think your room was the prettiest.


Me, too. The metal ball chain window treatment had me
fascinated. I'm easily amused. Of course the pool is lovely.

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> The wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:00:09 -0700:
> TR> ChattyCathy > wrote in message
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> ??>> [..] I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
> ??>> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the
> ??>> 'wine list"? [..]
> ??>> TR> Experience "The French Laundry" in Yountville
> TR> and you'll understand the draw.
> TR>
> How did you manage to get a reservation?


I started dialing a minute prior to opening and didn't let up
until someone answered. I should've also played the SuperLotto
immediately afterwards but I was too deliriously happy from
getting through.

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wrote:

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><sf> wrote
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>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:20:26 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
>> wrote:

>
>>>Probably the most expensive restaurant I've visited was
>>>Four Seasons in Manhattan. I don't know what it cost, but you
>>>know it was expensive. Technically it was a shareholder's meeting,
>>>the company being owned by my ex and his father and another
>>>partner. The surroundings/ambiance/whatever you'd like to call
>>>it certain was a large factor in the overall cost of the meal. Our table
>>>was in the pool room. The famous types would have been in the
>>>Grill Room.
>>>
>>>http://www.fourseasonsrestaurant.com/index2.htm
>>>

>> I think your room was the prettiest.

>
>Me, too. The metal ball chain window treatment had me
>fascinated. I'm easily amused. Of course the pool is lovely.
>

Tell me more about that pool.... I'm assuming it's the center square
with lighting. Were you seated next to it? What would you say the
ceiling height is? 20 feet? I love those tall windows, the trees and
that pool. I counted the seats and that room holds a lot of people,
but it doesn't seem like it. Very nice.

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> >would almost certainly possess little of the tastes and textures
> >that make famous the French Laundry and, nearer to home for me,
> >the Inn at Little Washington. There was a relatively expensive
> >place my wife and I used to go to for anniversaries and they
> >would adjust things for me but I don't think I would have eaten
> >there on my own initiative.
> >

> You probably wouldn't. Men usually want simple and filling, romantic
> and pretty isn't high on their list (unless they have an agenda).


Unless they are really bloody hungry and/pr date/wife cannot cook......
the dinner is always part of the agenda. :-)


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>> The wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:00:09 -0700:
>> TR> ChattyCathy > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> TR> [snip]
>> ??>> [..] I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
>> ??>> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the
>> ??>> 'wine list"? [..]
>> ??>> TR> Experience "The French Laundry" in Yountville
>> TR> and you'll understand the draw.
>> TR>
>> How did you manage to get a reservation?

>
> I started dialing a minute prior to opening and didn't let up
> until someone answered. I should've also played the SuperLotto
> immediately afterwards but I was too deliriously happy from
> getting through.
>


I guess we feel different things are important! It's a hell of a
way to spend your time, IMHO. I am told that certain businesses
provide their most highly paid employees with so-called
concierge credit cards that offer that as a service. I have also
heard of phones that will dial continuously and turn on a light
when they get thro' but I've never come across them.


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> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:


>>>>http://www.fourseasonsrestaurant.com/index2.htm
>>>>
>>> I think your room was the prettiest.

>>
>>Me, too. The metal ball chain window treatment had me
>>fascinated. I'm easily amused. Of course the pool is lovely.
>>

> Tell me more about that pool.... I'm assuming it's the center square
> with lighting. Were you seated next to it?


No, being a party of 6, we were off to one side. Most of the
tables seemed to be for parties of 2 or 4. I just remember the pool
as a nice white presence. Understand, this was a very long time ago.

> What would you say the
> ceiling height is? 20 feet?


Easily. Two office building stories high, at least.

> I love those tall windows, the trees and
> that pool. I counted the seats and that room holds a lot of people,
> but it doesn't seem like it. Very nice.


You don't feel as if you're in a large room, perhaps because of the
ceilings and the lighting. I wonder how many movie scenes have
been shot there.

They have fabulous artwork, too, including a Picasso. It really
is a place to see, but bring money. Heh.

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> �How did you manage to get a reservation?

[at French Laundry]

Apparently you can - but only rarely - find an
available seating on OpenTable. Otherwise,
work the redialer.
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> Thanks James. I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per head - for
> one evening - and that's excluding the 'wine list"? *And according to
> some googling I did, USD300 per head is not unheard of either in some of
> the 'fanciest' USA restaurants! Good grief - I could feed a family of
> 3-4 *pretty well for a month on USD300 (at least, *I could if *I do a
> conversion to our local South African currency ).


Bob and I did the 16 course tasting menu at Joël Robuchon in Las Vegas
(the first and only restaurant in LV with a 3-Star Michelin rating).
It was $385 per person before wine and gratuity. OUCHHHHH! But, it was
one of those once in a lifetime things that could never be duplicated.
We are going back to Vegas at the end of the month for my birthday and
celebrate with several friends. It's going to be another foodie tour,
but nothing quite as expensive as Joël Robuchon. I'd like to check out
the sister-restaurant of his next door, L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon.
It's more bistro style and has a 1-Star Michelin rating.

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About smoking: No reply applicable for my situation, i.e., in my
Canton of Switzerland, there is (as of now) no anti-smoking law, so
I'm happy if a restaurant has a *non-smoking* section.
Hopefully, this will change as we vote on November 30th on the subject
and the anti-smoking law is expected to be accepted by a hug
percentage of voters (the Canton of Geneva just voted and the
acceptance ratio was 80%)

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> Bob and I did the 16 course tasting menu at Joël Robuchon in Las Vegas
> (the first and only restaurant in LV with a 3-Star Michelin rating).


Wasn't that the most extrodinary dinner? My tastebuds were in
heaven!

Las Vegas is a great place to dine. Just about any restaurant is
better then the one you left. One of my favorite lunches was a
lobster burger with freshly made potato chips and chipolte mayo.


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> Wasn't that the most extrodinary dinner? * *My tastebuds were in
> heaven!


I can tell you that I certainly was impressed. I think we had three
separate waiters and one waitress and the management was watching
everything like hawks. Loved the purple they use in the decor, too.
I've never been somewhere that had a little upholstered foot stool for
my purse. (Ah, the little details!)

> Las Vegas is a great place to dine. * Just about any restaurant is
> better then the one you left. * One of my favorite lunches was a
> lobster burger with freshly made potato chips and chipolte mayo.


Would that be Capital Grille? Heard about their lobster burger and
that is on our list of places to check out. We already have
reservations for Bradley Ogden at Caesars. Have you tried the Ra Sushi
they have in LV? Personally, I think it's better than the one in San
Diego.

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> I guess we feel different things are important! It's a hell of a way to
> spend your time, IMHO. I am told that certain businesses provide their
> most highly paid employees with so-called concierge credit cards that
> offer that as a service. I have also heard of phones that will dial
> continuously and turn on a light when they get thro' but I've never come
> across them.
>

George Washington Hospital in Washington, DC offers that Concierge
Service (I forget the exact business name for it?) to their employees.
They do anything and everything (legal!) you desire. Make reservations,
pick up the laundry or kids, buy gifts....
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> Bob and I did the 16 course tasting menu at Joël Robuchon in Las Vegas
> (the first and only restaurant in LV with a 3-Star Michelin rating).
> It was $385 per person before wine and gratuity. OUCHHHHH! But, it was
> one of those once in a lifetime things that could never be duplicated.
> We are going back to Vegas at the end of the month for my birthday and
> celebrate with several friends. It's going to be another foodie tour,
> but nothing quite as expensive as Joël Robuchon. I'd like to check out
> the sister-restaurant of his next door, L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon.
> It's more bistro style and has a 1-Star Michelin rating.
>
> --Lin (BTDT and wish they had a t-shirt)


Victoria and Albert at the Grand Floridian resort in Disneyworld runs up
there in cost and quality. Getting a reservation at the Chef's Table in
the kitchen takes quite some perseverance!
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>> of a way to spend your time, IMHO. I am told that certain
>> businesses provide their most highly paid employees with
>> so-called concierge credit cards that offer that as a
>> service. I have also heard of phones that will dial
>> continuously and turn on a light when they get thro' but I've
>> never come across them.
>>

> George Washington Hospital in Washington, DC offers that
> Concierge Service (I forget the exact business name for it?)
> to their employees. They do anything and everything (legal!)
> you desire. Make reservations, pick up the laundry or kids,
> buy gifts....


If they will do that for you, lucky you, they're great
employers! I'm retired now and the Federal Government never did
anything like that tho' possibly representatives and senators
can use their staff to make such phone calls and have me pay
their salaries :-)



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> Victoria and Albert at the Grand Floridian resort in Disneyworld runs up
> there in cost and quality. Getting a reservation at the Chef's Table in
> the kitchen takes quite some perseverance!


Heck, we are still trying to get reservations to French Laundry! LOL!
However, Bob has family in Florida and maybe we can work a restaurant
like that in one of these years. Thanks for the heads-up.

If you are a fan of Thomas Keller and you find yourself in the Napa
area, he has opened another restaurant called "ad hoc." Fixed price
menu that changes daily. Comfort food with a French flair. Not
pretentious at all, very casual and the food is INCREDIBLE. Also, an
extremely good value for the meal that is served. We like staying at
the Yountville Inn and walking to Bouchon and ad hoc. Napa is a pretty
short drive for us, but after all the food and wine we just don't feel
like driving back.

Oh, and this last trip ... we did the CIA/Greystone Restaurant and
were horribly disappointed. The students aren't running things as the
website would like you to believe. If they had been, I might have been
more forgiving of the service and the poor quality of our entrees.
Students are "sometimes" there when class terms are in session, which
wasn't the case last month. Our "professional" waitress told us the
only place that had 100% students 100% of the time was CIA restaurant
at Hyde Park. It was probably one of the worse meal services we have
ever had. Won't waste my money or time there again.

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> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for 'inspiring' this one....
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>
> Monday is a lousy way to spend one seventh of your life.


$200 pp excluding wine and presumably excluding tip is a bit much. I've
hit about $500 on dinner for two, but that was the grand total with the
wine (different for each course) and big tip. Food was great, service
was great and atmosphere was great. I have a difficult time picturing
what could have been improved to make it worth $200 pp base which would
probably total over $600.
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On Mar 29, 5:39*pm, Lin > wrote:
> Would that be Capital Grille? Heard about their lobster burger and
> that is on our list of places to check out.


Yes, I think it was....isn't that by Fashion Mall on the strip?

Any restaurant that has linen for lunch or breakfast is my kind of
restaurant!


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> Any restaurant that has linen for lunch or breakfast is my kind of
> restaurant!


Not me. NYC Chinese restuarants typically have a lunch menu and a
dinner menu, both essentially the same except the lunch menu prices
are like 30 pct less and don't include dessert... only real difference
is no linen table cloth with lunch... and the lunch menu lasts until
like from 11 AM to 3-4 PM. And quite a few different restuarants also
have different priced menus for lunch and dinner, typical at the Greek
diners, and in Brooklyn a Greek diner serves a fabulous menu,
wonderful food, an immense selection (menu is like fifteen pages and
weighs 5 pounds), and modest prices... as far as I'm concerned better
food than at any five star restaurant on the planet.... if you really
want to eat and great food, don't mind the hustle and bustle, constant
noisy clatter, and crowded, there is nothing better.. and desserts to
die for - a huge slab of nesselrode pie, heaven.

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:26:23 +0200, ChattyCathy
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>The Ranger wrote:
>> ChattyCathy > wrote in message
>> .. .
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>>> [..] I'm still reeling from the shock - USD200 per
>>> head - for one evening - and that's excluding the
>>> 'wine list"? [..]

>>
>> Experience "The French Laundry" in Yountville and you'll
>> understand the draw.
>>
>> The Ranger
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>>

>The French Laundry - Hmmmm. Hope the food doesn't smell like dirty
>socks? LOL!


it would be questionable even if the food smelled like clean socks.

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:56:26 GMT, "James Silverton"
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>"Goomba38" > wrote in message
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>> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>> I guess we feel different things are important! It's a hell
>>> of a way to spend your time, IMHO. I am told that certain
>>> businesses provide their most highly paid employees with
>>> so-called concierge credit cards that offer that as a
>>> service. I have also heard of phones that will dial
>>> continuously and turn on a light when they get thro' but I've
>>> never come across them.
>>>

>> George Washington Hospital in Washington, DC offers that
>> Concierge Service (I forget the exact business name for it?)
>> to their employees. They do anything and everything (legal!)
>> you desire. Make reservations, pick up the laundry or kids,
>> buy gifts....

>
>If they will do that for you, lucky you, they're great
>employers! I'm retired now and the Federal Government never did
>anything like that tho' possibly representatives and senators
>can use their staff to make such phone calls and have me pay
>their salaries :-)


until they get caught.

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:24:34 GMT, "James Silverton"
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> sf wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:17:37 -0700:
>
> ??>> My cardiologist and my bank manager would
> ??>> call me a fool if I ate in either of the 3-star
> ??>> restaurants....sour grapes, pehaps.
>
> s> I'm sure you can get a heart healthy menu at $300 a plate.
> s> If you can't, there's a problem. However, your bank manager
> s> may be onto something.
>
>I'm sure they might consider providing a healthy meal but it
>would almost certainly possess little of the tastes and textures
>that make famous the French Laundry and, nearer to home for me,
>the Inn at Little Washington. There was a relatively expensive
>place my wife and I used to go to for anniversaries and they
>would adjust things for me but I don't think I would have eaten
>there on my own initiative.
>
>
>James Silverton


i'll bet even adjusted, the food was pretty damn good. besides, you
shouldn't let your cardiologist push you around.

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:06:51 GMT, "James Silverton"
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> ChattyCathy wrote on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:55:02 +0200:
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> C> OK. I have boli and Christine Dabney to blame for
> C> 'inspiring' this one....
>
>Interesting survey! I'm going back to look at the results after
>an hour or two. Around here, the smoking question is becoming a
>moot point. Very few restaurants have smoking even if the law
>allows it. To be honest, I've never worried about it too much
>unless the ventilation was very ineffective. However, it's
>surprising how much more the smell of stale cigaret smoke
>irritates me as the years go by. I can remember when I hardly
>noticed it!
>
>
>James Silverton


around us, james (d.c. area), only a few counties in virginia still
allow it. in d.c. itself, it's been illegal for a couple years, i
think. i don't know if it's illegal in maryland state-wide, but
montgomery co. banned it around 2003 sometime and prince george's
county fell a couple years later.

thank god the dive i frequent in falls church (va) still allows
smoking. not being able to smoke in a saloon is just not in
accordance with god's great plan.

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On Mar 30, 10:38*am, hahabogus > wrote:
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>
> I find linen tasteless, hard to chew and a bitch to get out from between
> your teeth.. when in a restaurant I never order it


YOU don't then, know how to dine. <vbg>

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> Victoria and Albert at the Grand Floridian resort in Disneyworld runs up
> there in cost and quality. Getting a reservation at the Chef's Table in
> the kitchen takes quite some perseverance!


We went there in 2000. It was a fun dinner and kind of a first for
something like that. We were on the grand plan for dinning and it was
included. No chef's table available. That would have been fun. I'd
definitely like to try a chef's table sometime. Not necessarily at V&A
but maybe one of the restaurants in Napa or SF.

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