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Has a "friend" ever asked you for your recipe and then publishedunder their own name?
A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she
asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a correction. This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37581 Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37594 What would you do? Luann Wolfe Albuquerque, NM |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:46:06 -0800 (PST),
" > wrote: >A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she >asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > >Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" >claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the >publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a >correction. > >This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: > >http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37581 > >Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: > >http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37594 > >What would you do? > > Luann Wolfe >Albuquerque, NM > Hire a lawyer. Give him/her a $5000 retainer to handle your case. Then sit in the corner and feel very stupid. Lou |
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Lou Decruss wrote:
>> A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she >> asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. >> >> Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" >> claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the >> publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a >> correction. >> What would you do? > Hire a lawyer. Give him/her a $5000 retainer to handle your case. > Then sit in the corner and feel very stupid. > > Lou Perhaps the OP needs to do a dejanews search on "~patches, pizza" <guffaw> |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:03:24 -0500, Goomba38 >
wrote: >Lou Decruss wrote: > >>> A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she >>> asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. >>> >>> Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" >>> claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the >>> publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a >>> correction. >>> What would you do? > > >> Hire a lawyer. Give him/her a $5000 retainer to handle your case. >> Then sit in the corner and feel very stupid. >> >> Lou > >Perhaps the OP needs to do a dejanews search on "~patches, pizza" ><guffaw> LOLOL Lou |
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On Jan 17, 12:46�pm, "
> wrote: > A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she > asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > > Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" > claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the > publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a > correction. > > This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...3ABlogPost%3A3... > > Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...3ABlogPost%3A3... > > What would you do? > > �Luann Wolfe > Albuquerque, NM I would be pretty ****ed off. Talk to your former friend and tell her how you feel, drop her form your circle of friends( if you haven't all ready ) Then go gnaw on your liver somewhere. Rosie |
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Lou wrote on Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:06:03 GMT:
??>> Lou Decruss wrote: ??>> ??>>>> A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so ??>>>> much that she asked for the recipe so she could make it ??>>>> herself. ??>>> Hire a lawyer. Give him/her a $5000 retainer to handle ??>>> your case. Then sit in the corner and feel very stupid. ??>>> ??>> Perhaps the OP needs to do a dejanews search on "~patches, ??>> pizza" <guffaw> It's a bit irritating to have your own words used without attribution, not just in recipes, but it is normally not worthwhile getting worked up unless it causes you real financial disadvantage. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Jan 17, 12:46*pm, "
> wrote: > A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she > asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > > Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" > claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the > publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a > correction. > > This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...3ABlogPost%3A3... > > Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...3ABlogPost%3A3... > > What would you do? > > *Luann Wolfe > Albuquerque, NM So, did she make any money on it? FYI, you can't copyright a list of ingredients, only the verbatim instructions. If she changed something, no matter how small, it isn't "yours" anymore. Did you create the recipe yourself? or adapt someone else's? In any event, just don't share any more recipes with her, if this bothers you. N. |
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The Kat wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > wrote: > >> Did you copyright the recipe? > > No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. > Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. No, "once it's created" means nothing. Copyright is implied when a work is committed to hard copy or recorded on a medium such as a disk, CD, jump drive, etc. and date and origin can be proven. Otherwise, the "creator" is S.O.L. if somebody takes an uncopyrightable and unpatentable idea and uses as his or her own. Further, recipes are not really copyrightable. If the friend changed just on facet of the recipe instructions, the recipe is hers and, if published as her contribution and not as work produced for the publication itself, so are the rights. |
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On Jan 17, 3:17*pm, The Kat > wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > wrote: > > > Did you copyright the recipe? * > > No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. > Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. > Only for the instructions. You cannot copyright the list of ingredients. N. |
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The Kat wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > wrote: > > > Did you copyright the recipe? > > No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. > Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. However, it's very difficult to get copyright for a recipe. Also, if copyright notice wasn't filed, damages are very limited. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:19:38 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >The Kat > dropped this : in rec.food.cooking > >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >> > wrote: >> >>> Did you copyright the recipe? >> >> No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. >> Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. > >By all means. Take that cheeseburger soup right into the courthouse. Maybe the judge will be hungry. Lou |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:18:50 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >The Kat > dropped this : in rec.food.cooking > >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:46:06 -0800 (PST), >> " > >> wrote: >> >> >>>What would you do? >> >> Once you've notified the publisher, and they won't issue >> a correction, you really have no option except a civil lawsuit. >> >> I wrote to the magazine and told them what I think, and that >> they should be sued into bankruptcy if they don't issue a >> correction and apology. > >And you would go through all of this over a cheeseburger soup recipe? I >don't even work and don't have time for something like that. It will be a >wasted effort anyway and is really not part of the big scheme of things... >in my life anyway. But cheeseburger soup is important Michael!!!! Lou |
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> > A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she > asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > > Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" > claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the > publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a > correction. > > This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...3ABlogPost%3A3... > > Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...3ABlogPost%3A3... > > What would you do? Not interested in any Blog Bullshit... let's see exactly what you wrote that you gave to your friend, and then let's see exactly what the magazine printed. If you included a narrative in your writing to your friend and the magazine printed it then you may have a case but if all you did was give your friend a list of ingredients with directions you are out of luck, a goomba guido has a better chance of copywriting a recipe for c-menta shooz... recipes in of themselves cannot be protected by copyright law. The ONLY way to protect a recipe is by not telling anyone. SHELDON |
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On Jan 17, 5:28�pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> The Kat wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > > wrote: > > > > Did you copyright the recipe? � > > > No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. > > Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. > > However, it's very difficult to get copyright for a recipe. Difficult, bullshit. Actually it's not possible... I've never seen a copyrighted recipe yet... you can copyright a compilation of recipes (a book) but not an individual recipe, nor are any of the individual recipes in a book protected by copyright. I mean like burger soup... how can anyone prove they invented the meat patty and that they were the first to cook meat. You can't copyright food or cooking instructions, not anymore than you can patent the wheel or fire. Again, there is but one way to protect your magical recipe, *don't tell anyone*. A secret recipe is called a proprietay formula, like the recipe for Coca Cola... in order to apply for a copywrite Coke would need to disclose it, no friggin' way, lips are zipped. SHELDON |
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On Jan 17, 11:55 am, Goomba38 > wrote:
> wrote: > > A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she > > asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > > > Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" > > claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the > > publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a > > correction. > > > What would you do? > > > Luann Wolfe > > Albuquerque, NM > > Doing a fast Google search returned MANY, MANY "Cheeseburger Soup" > recipes. Where'd you get yours? > > I personally wouldn't do anything. WOW! Thanks for all of the feedback. Here is the letter I wrote to Jill Duval, the publisher of New Mexico WOMAN magazine. It explains where I got the recipe, and how I can claim it as my own creation. December 8, 2007 Dear Ms. Duval, As a longtime reader of New Mexico WOMAN, imagine my surprise when I saw my recipe for Cheeseburger Soup on page 32 in the December 2007 issue. I was initially inspired by a recipe found in "The Everyday Low-Carb Slow Cooker Cookbook" by Kitty Broiher and Kimberly Mayone (Marlowe & Company, 2004). I took their recipe, and made substantial changes to it. Since my recipe has unique ingredients and an additional step in the cooking process, it is considered an "original work of authorship" as defined by Title 17 of the United States Code, Section 102. Eleven months ago, after Beth Donahue tasted my soup, she requested the recipe. I emailed it to her on January 24, 2007. It never occurred to me that she might attempt to pass it off as her own recipe. Enclosed please find a copy of my original email to Ms. Donahue. With the exception of two minor copy changes, it is identical to the recipe that appeared in your publication. I did not give Ms. Donahue permission to publish my recipe, or to claim it as her own creation. I have not seen her in person, or spoken to her since March 9, 2007. Had Ms. Donahue contacted me requesting permission to publish it, I would have refused since it was my intent to enter it in a series of recipe contests. U nfortunately, by publishing my recipe in New Mexico WOMAN, it is now ineligible for entry into any recipe contest. Contest rules prohibit submissions that have appeared in any form of media. To see an example of standard recipe contest rules, please visit: http://www.betterrecipes.com/2007annualreciperules.html. As Sandra Gruschopf writes in an online article at About.com, "Ethically, most people agree that simply copying a recipe and claiming it for your own is wrong" (http://contests.about.com/od/ winningcontests/qt/stolenrecipes.htm). Not only what Ms. Donahue did was wrong, but also her action and your subsequent publication of my intellectual property, denied me potential income in the form of contest prize money. I believe that you are a person of integrity, and would never knowingly publish people's work without their consent. Nevertheless, I would like to meet with you as soon as possible to discuss an equitable solution to this situation. Please feel free to all me at xxx-xxxx, or email me at xxxxxxxxxxx to arrange a time for us to get together. Yours truly, Luann Wolfe |
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On Jan 17, 2:17 pm, The Kat > wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > wrote: > > > Did you copyright the recipe? > > No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. > Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. > > -- > > Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk. > > This sig censored by the Office of Home, Land & Planet Insecurity... > > Remove XYZ to email me Thanks again for all of the feedback. Here is the story of what happened after I sent her the letter ( I originally posted this story on my blog). Last month, I picked up a copy of New Mexico WOMAN magazine, and discovered my recipe for Cheeseburger Soup on page 32. They printed it without my permission, and credited it to their columnist, Beth Donahue. I found it under this headline, "Recipes- New Mexico WOMAN's staff and writers are spilling their secrets--their holiday secrets that is, and if you're looking for a dish to impress your friends or family, maybe one of these recipes will make you the prized host." In case you've never seen it before, New Mexico WOMAN one of those "free" magazines you can pick up in the racks outside of Wal-Mart. Fortunately, I still had a copy of the email I sent to Donahue when she requested the recipe. It never occurred to me that she would try to claim it as her own creation. The Cheeseburger Soup recipe printed in New Mexico WOMAN is virtually identical to my email. To make matters worse, I planned to submit my Cheeseburger Soup in a series of recipe contests. Now I can't do that because once a recipe is published, it's ineligible as a contest entry. Since recipes, like other forms of intellectual property, are protected by copyright, I write a letter to New Mexico WOMAN Publisher Jill Duval explaining what has happened. I ask her to contact me ASAP so we can resolve the situation (you can see the actual letter in my last blog entry). I wait 10 days, and there's no response from Duval. I start calling the New Mexico WOMAN business office leaving messages, and after a couple of days, she returns my call. I'm a former advertising and publishing executive, so I have a good idea what's going to happen. Since I can prove the recipe is my original creation, she probably will apologize about the error, offer to reprint it crediting me as the actual author, and suggest a token sum in the form of compensation. Except that's not what she offers to do. She offers to do nothing. She's dismissive about the whole thing since "it's just a recipe". Duval says she will not apologize in writing for printing my recipe, because they did nothing wrong since they believed it was Donahue's recipe when it appeared in the December issue. Duval maintains they will not print a correction naming me as the actual author, because New Mexico WOMAN magazine doesn't reprint material they have already published. Naturally, she also refuses to discuss compensating me for my loss. Obviously, this is all about money. Duval doesn't want to issue a correction because she'll have to pay me for my creative work. I think she believes there's nothing I can do about it, unless I get an attorney. She also figures that no lawyer will want to take the case because "it's just a recipe". Luann Wolfe Albuquerque, NM What do you think about Duval's response? Are we all equal under the law, or is copyright protection only for those who can afford the legal fees? |
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> On Jan 17, 11:55 am, Goomba38 > wrote: >> wrote: >>> A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she >>> asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. >>> Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" >>> claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the >>> publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a >>> correction. >>> What would you do? >>> Luann Wolfe >>> Albuquerque, NM >> Doing a fast Google search returned MANY, MANY "Cheeseburger Soup" >> recipes. Where'd you get yours? >> >> I personally wouldn't do anything. > > WOW! Thanks for all of the feedback. > > Here is the letter I wrote to Jill Duval, the publisher of New Mexico > WOMAN magazine. It explains where I got the recipe, and how I can > claim it as my own creation. > > December 8, 2007 > > Dear Ms. Duval, > > As a longtime reader of New Mexico WOMAN, imagine my surprise when I > saw my recipe for Cheeseburger Soup on page 32 in the December 2007 > issue. > > I was initially inspired by a recipe found in "The Everyday Low-Carb > Slow Cooker Cookbook" by Kitty Broiher and Kimberly Mayone (Marlowe & > Company, 2004). I took their recipe, and made substantial changes to > it. Since my recipe has unique ingredients and an additional step in > the cooking process, it is considered an "original work of authorship" > as defined by Title 17 of the United States Code, Section 102. > > Eleven months ago, after Beth Donahue tasted my soup, she requested > the recipe. I emailed it to her on January 24, 2007. It never occurred > to me that she might attempt to pass it off as her own recipe. > > Enclosed please find a copy of my original email to Ms. Donahue. With > the exception of two minor copy changes, it is identical to the recipe > that appeared in your publication. > > I did not give Ms. Donahue permission to publish my recipe, or to > claim it as her own creation. I have not seen her in person, or spoken > to her since March 9, 2007. > > Had Ms. Donahue contacted me requesting permission to publish it, I > would have refused since it was my intent to enter it in a series of > recipe contests. > U > nfortunately, by publishing my recipe in New Mexico WOMAN, it is now > ineligible for entry into any recipe contest. Contest rules prohibit > submissions that have appeared in any form of media. To see an example > of standard recipe contest rules, please visit: > http://www.betterrecipes.com/2007annualreciperules.html. > > As Sandra Gruschopf writes in an online article at About.com, > "Ethically, most people agree that simply copying a recipe and > claiming it for your own is wrong" (http://contests.about.com/od/ > winningcontests/qt/stolenrecipes.htm). > > Not only what Ms. Donahue did was wrong, but also her action and your > subsequent publication of my intellectual property, denied me > potential income in the form of contest prize money. > > I believe that you are a person of integrity, and would never > knowingly publish people's work without their consent. Nevertheless, I > would like to meet with you as soon as possible to discuss an > equitable solution to this situation. > > Please feel free to all me at xxx-xxxx, or email me at xxxxxxxxxxx to > arrange a time for us to get together. > > Yours truly, > > Luann Wolfe |
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>, " > wrote: > A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she > asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > > Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" > claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the > publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a > correction. > > This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37581 > > Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37594 > > What would you do? Re-evaluate my choice of friends. |
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Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Lou Decruss > dropped this > : in rec.food.cooking > >> But cheeseburger soup is important Michael!!!! > > LOL... for maybe 10 minutes > > Michael > no, only until the bowl is empty. And even then it is kinda questionable. |
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>, " > wrote: > Thanks again for all of the feedback. Here is the story of what > happened after I sent her the letter ( I originally posted this story > on my blog). > > Last month, I picked up a copy of New Mexico WOMAN magazine, and > discovered my recipe for Cheeseburger Soup on page 32. They printed it > without my permission, and credited it to their columnist, Beth > Donahue. > > I found it under this headline, "Recipes- New Mexico WOMAN's staff and > writers are spilling their secrets--their holiday secrets that is, and > if you're looking for a dish to impress your friends or family, maybe > one of these recipes will make you the prized host." > > In case you've never seen it before, New Mexico WOMAN one of those > "free" magazines you can pick up in the racks outside of Wal-Mart. > > Fortunately, I still had a copy of the email I sent to Donahue when > she requested the recipe. It never occurred to me that she would try > to claim it as her own creation. > > The Cheeseburger Soup recipe printed in New Mexico WOMAN is virtually > identical to my email. > > To make matters worse, I planned to submit my Cheeseburger Soup in a > series of recipe contests. Now I can't do that because once a recipe > is published, it's ineligible as a contest entry. > > Since recipes, like other forms of intellectual property, are > protected by copyright, I write a letter to New Mexico WOMAN Publisher > Jill Duval explaining what has happened. I ask her to contact me ASAP > so we can resolve the situation (you can see the actual letter in my > last blog entry). > > I wait 10 days, and there's no response from Duval. I start calling > the New Mexico WOMAN business office leaving messages, and after a > couple of days, she returns my call. > > I'm a former advertising and publishing executive, so I have a good > idea what's going to happen. Since I can prove the recipe is my > original creation, she probably will apologize about the error, offer > to reprint it crediting me as the actual author, and suggest a token > sum in the form of compensation. What's your proof? I would imagine she doesn't want to open a can of worms. I can see her being deluged with people claiming original credit for any number of recipes that might be printed and simply not wanting to deal with it all. Is the recipe she printed EXACTLY as you gave it to your friend? It takes only a couple small changes to satisfy a newspaper editor that they're not infringing. At least around here. My sister wrote a column for a small town paper and I remember a recipe that she pulled from Woman's Day and presented it as her own to the extent, anyway, that she didn't give another source for it. Her editor said that as long as she made a couple changes, she didn't care. This was many years ago and my recollection is that she changed a couple words in the prep instructions. Have you confronted Ms. Donahue about it? What's she got to say for herself? Is she embarrassed? Smug? Do tell. Did you tell her that she could not ever submit that to a newspaper or cookbook? I've a recipe from a neighbor that she gave me with the promise I'd never submit it to a church cookbook or other such venture. I made that note on the recipe card. Personally, I think you're probably SOL. But I do hope you speak to your friend about it and get that out of your craw. If you don't it'll chew on you and she'll be sleeping peacefully at night. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007 |
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>, " > wrote: > I think she believes there's nothing I can do about it, unless I get > an attorney. She also figures that no lawyer will want to take the > case because "it's just a recipe". > > Luann Wolfe > Albuquerque, NM I think she's probably right. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007 |
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"Goomba38" > wrote > You're losing ground with me the more you go on about it. If you say it is > all about money, I can't help but think you're fine with that as long as > YOU are getting the money. You also sound like you think making more of a > fool of yourself over this recipe will somehow pay out? <shrug> Just MY > take on it. YMMV. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'd go try to create a > more original recipe for whatever contest you're trying to win. I fail to see the problem ... did the recipe win a million dollar contest or something? I don't think the magazine is making millions from people rushing out to buy the issue because there's a recipe for soup in it. Seems to me the monetary value of the thing is in the OP's mind. nancy |
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> wrote in message > > Not only what Ms. Donahue did was wrong, but also her action and your > subsequent publication of my intellectual property, denied me > potential income in the form of contest prize money. > > I believe that you are a person of integrity, and would never > knowingly publish people's work without their consent. Nevertheless, I > would like to meet with you as soon as possible to discuss an > equitable solution to this situation. Problem is, there is no equitable solution. You cannot copyright a recipe. You have no loss. You have no legal recourse. You are, however, what is often termed "S O L" You can **** and moan all you want, you can tell your ex-friend she is whatever, but you are just SOL |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:03:24 -0500, Goomba38 >
wrote: >Lou Decruss wrote: > >>> A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she >>> asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. >>> >>> Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" >>> claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the >>> publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a >>> correction. >>> What would you do? > > >> Hire a lawyer. Give him/her a $5000 retainer to handle your case. >> Then sit in the corner and feel very stupid. >> >> Lou > >Perhaps the OP needs to do a dejanews search on "~patches, pizza" ><guffaw> not nice. It wasn't funny then and it's not funny now. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> wrote: > >> Obviously, this is all about money. Duval doesn't want to issue a >> correction because she'll have to pay me for my creative work. >> >> I think she believes there's nothing I can do about it, unless I get >> an attorney. She also figures that no lawyer will want to take the >> case because "it's just a recipe". >> >> Luann Wolfe >> Albuquerque, NM >> >> What do you think about Duval's response? Are we all equal under the >> law, or is copyright protection only for those who can afford the >> legal fees? > > You're losing ground with me the more you go on about it. If you say it > is all about money, I can't help but think you're fine with that as long > as YOU are getting the money. You also sound like you think making more > of a fool of yourself over this recipe will somehow pay out? <shrug> > Just MY take on it. YMMV. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'd go try to > create a more original recipe for whatever contest you're trying to win. I did a couple of Google searches on selling or making money on recipes. It seems there are lots of sites willing to tell you how to buy their services to sell recipes and books with tips on selling them. I get the impression that there is more money selling recipe selling schemes than there is in selling recipes. |
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" > wrote
in : > A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that she > asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. > > Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My "friend" > claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to the > publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't issue a > correction. > > This is the actual letter I sent to the publisher: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37581 > > Here's the story of what happened after she received the letter: > > http://dukecity.ning.com/profiles/bl...ogPost%3A37594 > > What would you do? > Call my 'friend' a thieving bitch, and move on with my life. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia You will travel through the valley of rejection; you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home, though it will not be where you left it. |
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"kilikini" > wrote in news:478fbc04$0$6497
: > Goomba38 wrote: >> Lou Decruss wrote: >> >>>> A "friend" tasted my Cheeseburger Soup, and liked it so much that >>>> she asked for the recipe so she could make it herself. >>>> >>>> Months later, I see my recipe in a local woman's magazine. My >>>> "friend" claimed my recipe as her own creation. I write a letter to >>>> the publisher proving that I'm the original author, but she won't >>>> issue a correction. >>>> What would you do? >> >> >>> Hire a lawyer. Give him/her a $5000 retainer to handle your case. >>> Then sit in the corner and feel very stupid. >>> >>> Lou >> >> Perhaps the OP needs to do a dejanews search on "~patches, pizza" >> <guffaw> > > Oh my god, I had to laugh at that one! > What's the story behind that one? -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia You will travel through the valley of rejection; you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home, though it will not be where you left it. |
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sf wrote:
>> Perhaps the OP needs to do a dejanews search on "~patches, pizza" >> <guffaw> > > not nice. It wasn't funny then and it's not funny now. > Well.. *I* found it funny now. And the situations aren't that far apart. Two women with overblown indignation. Sort of making a mountain out of a mole hill. Cheeseburger soup for gawdsake..it ain't haute cuisine...!! The OP poster could be accused of stealing the idea and recipe from any one of hundreds of recipes under this same title found on Google. |
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"PeterLucas" > wrote in message >> You have no legal recourse. You are, >> however, what is often termed "S O L" You can **** and moan all you >> want, you can tell your ex-friend she is whatever, but you are just >> SOL > > > Shouldn't that be SOOL? > > Shit out of luck? > > > -- > Peter Lucas > Brisbane > Australia I've always seen one O. Probably from the slang "out'a" |
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"Sheldon" > wrote in message ... On Jan 17, 5:28?pm, "Default User" > wrote: > The Kat wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:44 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > > wrote: > > > > Did you copyright the recipe? ? > > > No need to do that, if you can prove it was written by you. > > Once it's created, there is an implied copyright. > > However, it's very difficult to get copyright for a recipe. Difficult, bullshit. Actually it's not possible... I've never seen a copyrighted recipe yet... you can copyright a compilation of recipes (a book) but not an individual recipe, nor are any of the individual recipes in a book protected by copyright. I mean like burger soup... how can anyone prove they invented the meat patty and that they were the first to cook meat. You can't copyright food or cooking instructions, not anymore than you can patent the wheel or fire. Again, there is but one way to protect your magical recipe, *don't tell anyone*. A secret recipe is called a proprietay formula, like the recipe for Coca Cola... in order to apply for a copywrite Coke would need to disclose it, no friggin' way, lips are zipped. This is true. Some time back, a woman on a food forum I frequent, flipped out because people were posting a recipe of hers elsewhere on the Internet. She contacted her lawyer and was told she didn't have a leg to stand on. I even posted it myself, but I didn't claim it as my own and I made a few changes to the original recipe. The lawyer told her she didn't have a leg to stand on. That a recipe can not be copyrighted. She then asked us to please give her credit for the recipe if we were going to repost it. Last I heard, that woman is no longer posting to that forum. She has now started her own and also has a book coming out, presumably with recipes in it. Hmmm... |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "PeterLucas" > wrote in message >>> You have no legal recourse. You are, >>> however, what is often termed "S O L" You can **** and moan all you >>> want, you can tell your ex-friend she is whatever, but you are just >>> SOL >> >> Shouldn't that be SOOL? >> >> Shit out of luck? >> >> >> -- >> Peter Lucas >> Brisbane >> Australia > > I've always seen one O. Probably from the slang "out'a" > Yup.. "outta" |
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"kilikini" > wrote in
: >>> Oh my god, I had to laugh at that one! >>> >> >> >> What's the story behind that one? > > You don't remember Patches? Can't say as I do. >I can't remember who did it, but someone > posted a picture of her pizza to some catalogue-type company that puts > images on things like mugs, aprons, etc. It was done as a joke and > she went BALLISTIC. It started a huge flame war that went on for > weeks. > Ahhhh, so I probably had her kf'd :-) I'll have to go back and have a look. Thanks :-) -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia You will travel through the valley of rejection; you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home, though it will not be where you left it. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in news:eOVjj.1814$Rg1.634
@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com: > > "PeterLucas" > wrote in message >>> You have no legal recourse. You are, >>> however, what is often termed "S O L" You can **** and moan all you >>> want, you can tell your ex-friend she is whatever, but you are just >>> SOL >> >> >> Shouldn't that be SOOL? >> >> Shit out of luck? >> >> >> -- >> Peter Lucas >> Brisbane >> Australia > > I've always seen one O. Probably from the slang "out'a" > > > Sorry..that's the 'proper' English education I had coming out in me ;-) -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia You will travel through the valley of rejection; you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home, though it will not be where you left it. |
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