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Hello folks,

I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
us...

I am curious about attitudes in all of this. I see some that say, no I
won't eat this and I won't eat that, but I will eat this and I love
it.. Some won't eat anything green (you know who you are!!) and some
won't eat raw veggies or salads.. Some won't eat turkey in any way
shape or form....Some won't eat chocolate that comes anywhere near
fruit....

And some just have too much trouble with certain foods..mostly
allergies. Sometimes phobias too.

So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.

I see some with the above limitations, whether they are physical or
whatever, say..I can't eat this..and constantly bemoan that they can't
or won't eat such and such...I see them as not trying to find choices
that they can love..Everything makes them sick or things just repulse
them... And they never let others forget it. And I see it as they let
fear rule their food choices, so that they never try anything new...
They won't eat this...they won't eat that..even if it tastes great and
it is something that they can eat.

And I see others...whom I admire greatly, who say...No, I can't eat
such and such, or I won't eat this..but this is what I love and I
can/will eat...and I will enjoy eating it..and I will enjoy the
challenge of adapting.. and I will have a great time with it. I will
forget what I can't have, and love what I can have. And I will make
the best of it.

I must admit I am predjudiced... I am not a picky eater, nor do I have
food intolerances..and I am pretty willing to try almost everything.
Even raw oysters if someone gives me enough wine before hand...a LOT
of wine!!...

I do have a weight problem, and I find I do best if I limit the carb
intake. But even within those guidelines, and within my budgetary
guidelines, I can usually find a lot of things to love. I take it as
a challenge to find things to fit what I love and can eat....

So what is your viewpoint in the face of culinary/dietary adversity?
Do you just bemoan it and say I can't have this or I can't have that?
Or do you take up the challenge and say I can't have this and that,
but I can have this and I will make what I can have and love, into
something good I love to eat?

Interested in your opinions, attitudes, etc..

Christine
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> Hello folks,
>
> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
> us...
> So what is your viewpoint in the face of culinary/dietary adversity?
> Do you just bemoan it and say I can't have this or I can't have that?
> Or do you take up the challenge and say I can't have this and that,
> but I can have this and I will make what I can have and love, into
> something good I love to eat?
>
> Interested in your opinions, attitudes, etc..
>
> Christine


I will cook almost anything, but forgive myself for the things I don't want
to eat. I don't mind people not eating something I have made. One of my
closest friends is a Bhuddist and I happily alter menus to be sure he eats
well.

What I don't deal with is neuoses like food not touching etc. It just can't
be my problem. I make it, arrange it, garnish it and if someone blanches
because there was a cucumber rose touching his fish, it ain't my problem.
My possibly future SIL has been told he can't eat at my house (not by me)
because I do not allow retching at the table because it isn't Taco Bell.

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> it ain't my problem. My possibly future SIL has been told he can't
> eat at my house (not by me) because I do not allow retching at the
> table because it isn't Taco Bell.


LOL I recall going to lunch at a Mexican restaurant with a co-worker (yeah,
get ready for the blast Jill posts because she didn't like her co-workers!)
She ordered tacos - I guess they sounded "safe" or something. When they
were served they contained shredded beef rather than the ground up mystery
meat they have at Taco Bell so she refused to even taste them. Okay, we
knew she was picky but *that* picky?! So we said hey, tell them you made a
mistake, you really wanted the cheese quesadillas instead; you like those,
right? She said yes she likes those but she didn't want to offend the
waiter. Huh? The waiter isn't going to bite your hand off if you ask for
something else. Long story short: we ate, she didn't.

Jill


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Christine Dabney wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
> us...
>
> I am curious about attitudes in all of this. I see some that say, no I
> won't eat this and I won't eat that, but I will eat this and I love
> it.. Some won't eat anything green (you know who you are!!) and some
> won't eat raw veggies or salads.. Some won't eat turkey in any way
> shape or form....Some won't eat chocolate that comes anywhere near
> fruit....
>
> And some just have too much trouble with certain foods..mostly
> allergies. Sometimes phobias too.
>
> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.
>
> I see some with the above limitations, whether they are physical or
> whatever, say..I can't eat this..and constantly bemoan that they can't
> or won't eat such and such...I see them as not trying to find choices
> that they can love..Everything makes them sick or things just repulse
> them... And they never let others forget it. And I see it as they let
> fear rule their food choices, so that they never try anything new...
> They won't eat this...they won't eat that..even if it tastes great and
> it is something that they can eat.
>
> And I see others...whom I admire greatly, who say...No, I can't eat
> such and such, or I won't eat this..but this is what I love and I
> can/will eat...and I will enjoy eating it..and I will enjoy the
> challenge of adapting.. and I will have a great time with it. I will
> forget what I can't have, and love what I can have. And I will make
> the best of it.
>
> I must admit I am predjudiced... I am not a picky eater, nor do I have
> food intolerances..and I am pretty willing to try almost everything.
> Even raw oysters if someone gives me enough wine before hand...a LOT
> of wine!!...
>
> I do have a weight problem, and I find I do best if I limit the carb
> intake. But even within those guidelines, and within my budgetary
> guidelines, I can usually find a lot of things to love. I take it as
> a challenge to find things to fit what I love and can eat....
>
> So what is your viewpoint in the face of culinary/dietary adversity?
> Do you just bemoan it and say I can't have this or I can't have that?
> Or do you take up the challenge and say I can't have this and that,
> but I can have this and I will make what I can have and love, into
> something good I love to eat?
>
> Interested in your opinions, attitudes, etc..


There are a few things I can't eat (I seem to have developed a wheat
intolerance as I've got older), but it hasn't really stopped me "eating
what I like"; there are plenty of other foods out there that I can eat,
so I don't miss white bread and pizza (too much). Of course, there are
also a few things I don't like e.g. cabbage <veg> but I still wouldn't
call myself a 'picky eater'.

I've tried some 'weird' foods in my lifetime too; one example is "mopane
worms". They looked rather ugly but tasted pretty good Warthog chops
are much better than pork, IMHO and of course I love ostrich meat too.
I love all kinds of seafood and shellfish, I eat beef, chicken (and
other poultry) and pork. Lamb is good too. I love most vegetables (did I
already mention how much I hate cabbage?)... Oh, and don't forget
venison (as in deer-type meat).

So. I've come to the conclusion that experimenting with recipes and
trying out different foods is one of life's little pleasures - for me
at least...

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Christine Dabney said...

> Hello folks,
>
> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
> us...
>
> I am curious about attitudes in all of this. I see some that say, no I
> won't eat this and I won't eat that, but I will eat this and I love
> it.. Some won't eat anything green (you know who you are!!) and some
> won't eat raw veggies or salads.. Some won't eat turkey in any way
> shape or form....Some won't eat chocolate that comes anywhere near
> fruit....
>
> And some just have too much trouble with certain foods..mostly
> allergies. Sometimes phobias too.
>
> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.
>
> I see some with the above limitations, whether they are physical or
> whatever, say..I can't eat this..and constantly bemoan that they can't
> or won't eat such and such...I see them as not trying to find choices
> that they can love..Everything makes them sick or things just repulse
> them... And they never let others forget it. And I see it as they let
> fear rule their food choices, so that they never try anything new...
> They won't eat this...they won't eat that..even if it tastes great and
> it is something that they can eat.
>
> And I see others...whom I admire greatly, who say...No, I can't eat
> such and such, or I won't eat this..but this is what I love and I
> can/will eat...and I will enjoy eating it..and I will enjoy the
> challenge of adapting.. and I will have a great time with it. I will
> forget what I can't have, and love what I can have. And I will make
> the best of it.
>
> I must admit I am predjudiced... I am not a picky eater, nor do I have
> food intolerances..and I am pretty willing to try almost everything.
> Even raw oysters if someone gives me enough wine before hand...a LOT
> of wine!!...
>
> I do have a weight problem, and I find I do best if I limit the carb
> intake. But even within those guidelines, and within my budgetary
> guidelines, I can usually find a lot of things to love. I take it as
> a challenge to find things to fit what I love and can eat....
>
> So what is your viewpoint in the face of culinary/dietary adversity?
> Do you just bemoan it and say I can't have this or I can't have that?
> Or do you take up the challenge and say I can't have this and that,
> but I can have this and I will make what I can have and love, into
> something good I love to eat?
>
> Interested in your opinions, attitudes, etc..
>
> Christine



I see what you mean. For me, I'll eat anything I can were I allowed.
Between gout, high blood pressure and diabetes and cholesterol, they cancel
out a lot of foods whether I like them or not.

I've given up carbs (complex and simple) to bring my tryglycerides down and
cut back on the boozing. When my triglycerides come down from 1500 to 120,
I'll have whole grain bread garlic bread and spaghetti with wine again. My
soy burgers sit on a bun of lettuce instead of a roll. There's not many
calories in lettuce but it solves a problem.

Processed foods are the worst. I've heard advice to shop the outside aisles
at the market for the healthy food and agree.

I'm not sold on organic everything, but hate food additives.

I did switch from olive oils to "Hains" brand of safflower oil. It has less
sat. fat. but more mono-unsaturated fat and less poly-unsaturated fat than
any olive oil. For diet, I'll take the healthiest fat over flavor. YMMV.

Andy
Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)

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> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.


I walk right up to it.

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> "Christine Dabney" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
>> us...
>> So what is your viewpoint in the face of culinary/dietary adversity?
>> Do you just bemoan it and say I can't have this or I can't have that?
>> Or do you take up the challenge and say I can't have this and that,
>> but I can have this and I will make what I can have and love, into
>> something good I love to eat?
>>
>> Interested in your opinions, attitudes, etc..
>>
>> Christine

>
> I will cook almost anything, but forgive myself for the things I don't
> want to eat. I don't mind people not eating something I have made.
> One of my closest friends is a Bhuddist and I happily alter menus to
> be sure he eats well.
>
> What I don't deal with is neuoses like food not touching etc. It just
> can't be my problem. I make it, arrange it, garnish it and if someone
> blanches because there was a cucumber rose touching his fish, it ain't
> my problem. My possibly future SIL has been told he can't eat at my
> house (not by me) because I do not allow retching at the table because
> it isn't Taco Bell.
>


I like to eat my food 1 thing at a time. Usually it is the meat first.
Then the veggie and lastly the potato or rice. I don't understand these
folks who put a little of everything on their plate on a fork at the same
time and eat it. If I have a sidedish of mixed veggies I eat the sidedish
of mixed veggies, I just like to eat the food in a certain order. A bowl
full of stew or a noodle and meat dish doesn't cause me to get upset or
run screaming from the table. My food can be any colour as long as the
colour is appealing to me. An example day glow green mashed potatoes
wouldn't appeal to me or purple beef gravy.

Most of my life I lived in the same city so I haven't been exposed to
many changes in food so sometimes it takes me a while to get my mind
around to trying new things.

I believe culture plays big parts in what you will or won't eat. If all
you were used to is meat and potatoe dishes it can take a while to except
fish and rice dishes.

--

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It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
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> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.
>


You and I are much alike in our food attitudes and practices. I
eat a wide variety of foods, love trying new things, and have no
food allergies that I know of.

I avoid a lot of white flour and rarely eat sugar unless it is present
in fruit or prepared foods, and I don't eat many processed/prepared
convenience foods. (I avoid the white flour and sugar because I just
feel better when I eat less of them. I want the food I eat to count,
nutrition wise.)

I love fatty foods, especially dairy--cheese is a major favorite, but
I don't eat too much fat, because I am over 40 and don't want to
gain weight.

Liver (except liverwurst) and lima beans (except in vegetable beef
soup) along with all "organ" meats like hearts and stomachs and
such are the only things I will not eat. I grew up being served
liver and lima beans and my mother cooked chicken livers and
hearts. So I was exposed to them, and I just don't like them.

I am attracted to whole foods, like raw peppers and such, because
of the research I've seen in the last 20 years about alleged health
benefits in whole foods that are not in supplements--the whole
being more than just the sum of a food's parts, so to speak.

Just like when I was a smoker and switched to non-menthol
to cut back because I didn't like non-menthol cigs, I now
prefer raw vegetables, fruit, and yogurt to any kind of greasy
potato or corn chips. There's stuff that's bad for me that I
persist in eating, like popcorn loaded with butter, mmmm!
Something's going to kill me one day anyway, though. I'm
betting my head will explode one day from reading idiots
like Lou.


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>> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.

>
> I walk right up to it.
>


With my mouth open.


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>> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.

>
> I walk right up to it.


LOL good answer!




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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...

> Hello folks,
>
> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
> us...


I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't balloon up
to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by eating junk
food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(

I like or will try almost anything with very few exceptions. Most of you
know my intense dislike for turkey. I've eaten it many times but I simply
don't like the taste or the smell. I also don't care to eat certain "sea
creatures" or raw fish. That's it! I'm fair game for just about anything
anyone would prepare and serve.

There are a few things I haven't tried, like haggis, simply because I've
never been where those things were offered. And since I live with one of
the pickiest eaters on the planet, I just wouldn't bother making it for
myself. There are actually very few things in this category.

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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 05:54:56a, Andy <q> told us...

> I see what you mean. For me, I'll eat anything I can were I allowed.
> Between gout, high blood pressure and diabetes and cholesterol, they
> cancel out a lot of foods whether I like them or not.
>
> I've given up carbs (complex and simple) to bring my tryglycerides down
> and cut back on the boozing. When my triglycerides come down from 1500
> to 120, I'll have whole grain bread garlic bread and spaghetti with wine
> again. My soy burgers sit on a bun of lettuce instead of a roll. There's
> not many calories in lettuce but it solves a problem.
>
> Processed foods are the worst. I've heard advice to shop the outside
> aisles at the market for the healthy food and agree.
>
> I'm not sold on organic everything, but hate food additives.
>
> I did switch from olive oils to "Hains" brand of safflower oil. It has
> less sat. fat. but more mono-unsaturated fat and less poly-unsaturated
> fat than any olive oil. For diet, I'll take the healthiest fat over
> flavor. YMMV.
>
> Andy
> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>

OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!


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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
>> us...

>
> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't balloon
> up
> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by eating
> junk
> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>


Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.


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cybercat wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>> of us...

>>
>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>> balloon up
>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>> eating junk
>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>

>
> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.


oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...

> cybercat wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 3.184...
>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>
>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>>> of us...
>>>
>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>> balloon up
>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>> eating junk
>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>

>>
>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.

>
> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>


Consider the source, O.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...
>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 3.184...
>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>>>> of us...
>>>>
>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>> balloon up
>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>> eating junk
>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.

>>
>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>

>
> Consider the source, O.
>


Look, dumbass, you have me killfiled because you don't want to read my posts
or talk to me, but you're reading my posts and talking to me. What's wrong
with this picture? Idiot.


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> cybercat wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>
>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>>> of us...
>>>
>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>> balloon up
>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>> eating junk
>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>

>>
>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.

>
> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>


I know, I should be ashamed. NOT.

*cackle*


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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:32:18 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
>> us...

>
>I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't balloon up
>to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by eating junk
>food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>


that's quite an achievement, wayne. you should be proud of yourself.

your pal.
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> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 05:54:56a, Andy <q> told us...

>
>>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>>

>> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!

>
> I was wondering about that, too. 118? I haven't seen that since age 18!
> I'm 5'7" and weighed in this morning at 141 pounds. Heck, I'm happy with
> that. :~)


Prolly a typo. 181 lbs maybe??
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> LOL I recall going to lunch at a Mexican restaurant with a co-worker
> (yeah, get ready for the blast Jill posts because she didn't like her
> co-workers!) She ordered tacos - I guess they sounded "safe" or something.
> When they were served they contained shredded beef rather than the ground
> up mystery meat they have at Taco Bell so she refused to even taste them.
> Okay, we knew she was picky but *that* picky?! So we said hey, tell them
> you made a mistake, you really wanted the cheese quesadillas instead; you
> like those, right? She said yes she likes those but she didn't want to
> offend the waiter. Huh? The waiter isn't going to bite your hand off if
> you ask for something else. Long story short: we ate, she didn't.


I hope the rest of you split up her tacos so a perfectly good meal didn't
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> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>> 3.184...
>>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have
>>>>>> dietary problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they
>>>>>> can eat, and even what they will eat. That includes the picky
>>>>>> eaters among all of us...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>>> balloon up
>>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>>> eating junk
>>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.
>>>
>>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Consider the source, O.
>>

>
> Look, dumbass, you have me killfiled because you don't want to read
> my posts or talk to me, but you're reading my posts and talking to
> me. What's wrong with this picture? Idiot.


Well, I like both Wayne and cybercat! What am I to do/


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cybercat wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 3.184...
>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have
>>>>> dietary problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they
>>>>> can eat, and even what they will eat. That includes the picky
>>>>> eaters among all of us...
>>>>
>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>> balloon up
>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>> eating junk
>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.

>>
>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>

>
> I know, I should be ashamed. NOT.
>
> *cackle*


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Wayne Boatwright said...

> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 05:54:56a, Andy <q> told us...
>
>> I see what you mean. For me, I'll eat anything I can were I allowed.
>> Between gout, high blood pressure and diabetes and cholesterol, they
>> cancel out a lot of foods whether I like them or not.
>>
>> I've given up carbs (complex and simple) to bring my tryglycerides down
>> and cut back on the boozing. When my triglycerides come down from 1500
>> to 120, I'll have whole grain bread garlic bread and spaghetti with wine
>> again. My soy burgers sit on a bun of lettuce instead of a roll. There's
>> not many calories in lettuce but it solves a problem.
>>
>> Processed foods are the worst. I've heard advice to shop the outside
>> aisles at the market for the healthy food and agree.
>>
>> I'm not sold on organic everything, but hate food additives.
>>
>> I did switch from olive oils to "Hains" brand of safflower oil. It has
>> less sat. fat. but more mono-unsaturated fat and less poly-unsaturated
>> fat than any olive oil. For diet, I'll take the healthiest fat over
>> flavor. YMMV.
>>
>> Andy
>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>

> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!



OOPS. 218!!! At 118, I'd be living at an ICU near me if I was lucky!

Darn keyboard!

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:38:17 -0500, "cybercat" >
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>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
73.184...
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
>>> us...

>>
>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't balloon
>> up
>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by eating
>> junk
>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>

>
>Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.


You are such a quality poster.
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:41:56 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>cybercat wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 3.184...
>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>
>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>>> of us...
>>>
>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>> balloon up
>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>> eating junk
>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>

>>
>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.

>
>oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

And you didn't like my other post the her. She's gone as far as I'm
concerned.

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:12:49 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
73.184...
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>> 3.184...
>>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>>>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>>>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>>>>> of us...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>>> balloon up
>>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>>> eating junk
>>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.
>>>
>>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Consider the source, O.
>>

>
>Look, dumbass, you have me killfiled because you don't want to read my posts
>or talk to me, but you're reading my posts and talking to me. What's wrong
>with this picture? Idiot.
>

The only thing wrong with the picture is you're in it.

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"kilikini" > wrote in message
...

>>> Andy
>>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>>

>> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!

>
> I was wondering about that, too. 118? I haven't seen that since age 18!
> I'm 5'7" and weighed in this morning at 141 pounds. Heck, I'm happy with
> that. :~)
>
> kili



But how tall ARE you, Andy?
Somehow I recall asking that before and you, Andy, said you were the tallest
man in a room, or something like that.

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Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:41:56 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 3.184...
>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have
>>>>> dietary problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they
>>>>> can eat, and even what they will eat. That includes the picky
>>>>> eaters among all of us...
>>>>
>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>> balloon up
>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>> eating junk
>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.

>>
>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>

> And you didn't like my other post the her. She's gone as far as I'm
> concerned.


Then why are you still posting about her?


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Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
> us...
>
> I am curious about attitudes in all of this. I see some that say, no I
> won't eat this and I won't eat that, but I will eat this and I love
> it.. Some won't eat anything green (you know who you are!!) and some
> won't eat raw veggies or salads.. Some won't eat turkey in any way
> shape or form....Some won't eat chocolate that comes anywhere near
> fruit....
>
> And some just have too much trouble with certain foods..mostly
> allergies. Sometimes phobias too.


There are a few foods that I have to avoid, due to mild food allergies or
sensitivities. I tend to eat them anyway because I like them. I appreciate
that other people have similar issues. However. I have to admit to a lack
of appreciation of the imposed or self imposed restrictions of picky
eaters, fad vegetarians and religious restrictions like halal and kosher.
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"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:12:49 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
. 173.184...
>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>>> 3.184...
>>>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>>>>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>>>>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all
>>>>>>> of us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>>>> balloon up
>>>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>>>> eating junk
>>>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.
>>>>
>>>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Consider the source, O.
>>>

>>
>>Look, dumbass, you have me killfiled because you don't want to read my
>>posts
>>or talk to me, but you're reading my posts and talking to me. What's wrong
>>with this picture? Idiot.
>>

> The only thing wrong with the picture is you're in it.
>


Whine, whine, whine. It's Usenet, asswipe. Suck it up.




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> Wayne Boatwright said...


>
> OOPS. 218!!! At 118, I'd be living at an ICU near me if I was lucky!
>

I knew you didn't weigh less than Wayne's head.


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Christine Dabney wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
> us...
>
> I am curious about attitudes in all of this. I see some that say, no I
> won't eat this and I won't eat that, but I will eat this and I love
> it.. Some won't eat anything green (you know who you are!!) and some
> won't eat raw veggies or salads.. Some won't eat turkey in any way
> shape or form....Some won't eat chocolate that comes anywhere near
> fruit....
>
> And some just have too much trouble with certain foods..mostly
> allergies. Sometimes phobias too.
>
> So, I am interested in attitudes...and how you approach food.
>
> I see some with the above limitations, whether they are physical or
> whatever, say..I can't eat this..and constantly bemoan that they can't
> or won't eat such and such...I see them as not trying to find choices
> that they can love..Everything makes them sick or things just repulse
> them... And they never let others forget it. And I see it as they let
> fear rule their food choices, so that they never try anything new...
> They won't eat this...they won't eat that..even if it tastes great and
> it is something that they can eat.
>
> And I see others...whom I admire greatly, who say...No, I can't eat
> such and such, or I won't eat this..but this is what I love and I
> can/will eat...and I will enjoy eating it..and I will enjoy the
> challenge of adapting.. and I will have a great time with it. I will
> forget what I can't have, and love what I can have. And I will make
> the best of it.
>
> I must admit I am predjudiced... I am not a picky eater, nor do I have
> food intolerances..and I am pretty willing to try almost everything.
> Even raw oysters if someone gives me enough wine before hand...a LOT
> of wine!!...
>
> I do have a weight problem, and I find I do best if I limit the carb
> intake. But even within those guidelines, and within my budgetary
> guidelines, I can usually find a lot of things to love. I take it as
> a challenge to find things to fit what I love and can eat....
>
> So what is your viewpoint in the face of culinary/dietary adversity?
> Do you just bemoan it and say I can't have this or I can't have that?
> Or do you take up the challenge and say I can't have this and that,
> but I can have this and I will make what I can have and love, into
> something good I love to eat?
>
> Interested in your opinions, attitudes, etc..


At one time, I was allergic to lettuce and chocolate. I've never
really liked lettuce, but that turned out to be the worse problem. So
many restaurant foods are served with lettuce as decoration, to begin
with.

Currently, I'm lactose intolerant. I don't willingly drink cold milk,
but milk as an ingredient can be a problem. However, I can digest
yogurt and cheese without problems.

Some foods taste bitter to me which don't to everyone. I avoid them.

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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 12:39:52p, Dee.Dee told us...

>
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>> Andy
>>>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>>>
>>> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!

>>
>> I was wondering about that, too. 118? I haven't seen that since age
>> 18! I'm 5'7" and weighed in this morning at 141 pounds. Heck, I'm
>> happy with that. :~)
>>
>> kili

>
>
> But how tall ARE you, Andy?
> Somehow I recall asking that before and you, Andy, said you were the
> tallest man in a room, or something like that.
>
> Dee Dee
>
>
>


I guess it depends on the room. :-)

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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 11:39:58a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:32:18 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have dietary
>>> problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they can eat, and
>>> even what they will eat. That includes the picky eaters among all of
>>> us...

>>
>>I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't balloon
>>up to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>eating junk food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>

>
> that's quite an achievement, wayne. you should be proud of yourself.
>
> your pal.
> blake
>


Thanks, Blake. I have to admit I'm happy about it.

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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 12:29:11p, Andy <q> told us...

> Wayne Boatwright said...
>
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 05:54:56a, Andy <q> told us...
>>
>>> I see what you mean. For me, I'll eat anything I can were I allowed.
>>> Between gout, high blood pressure and diabetes and cholesterol, they
>>> cancel out a lot of foods whether I like them or not.
>>>
>>> I've given up carbs (complex and simple) to bring my tryglycerides down
>>> and cut back on the boozing. When my triglycerides come down from 1500
>>> to 120, I'll have whole grain bread garlic bread and spaghetti with

wine
>>> again. My soy burgers sit on a bun of lettuce instead of a roll.

There's
>>> not many calories in lettuce but it solves a problem.
>>>
>>> Processed foods are the worst. I've heard advice to shop the outside
>>> aisles at the market for the healthy food and agree.
>>>
>>> I'm not sold on organic everything, but hate food additives.
>>>
>>> I did switch from olive oils to "Hains" brand of safflower oil. It has
>>> less sat. fat. but more mono-unsaturated fat and less poly-unsaturated
>>> fat than any olive oil. For diet, I'll take the healthiest fat over
>>> flavor. YMMV.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>>

>> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!

>
>
> OOPS. 218!!! At 118, I'd be living at an ICU near me if I was lucky!
>
> Darn keyboard!
>
> Andy
>


I though as much, but I couldn't resist heckling you a bit. :-)

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> cybercat wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 3.184...
>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>>> 3.184...
>>>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have
>>>>>>> dietary problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they
>>>>>>> can eat, and even what they will eat. That includes the picky
>>>>>>> eaters among all of us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>>>> balloon up
>>>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>>>> eating junk
>>>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.
>>>>
>>>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Consider the source, O.
>>>

>>
>> Look, dumbass, you have me killfiled because you don't want to read
>> my posts or talk to me, but you're reading my posts and talking to me.
>> What's wrong with this picture? Idiot.

>
> Well, I like both Wayne and cybercat! What am I to do/
>
>
>


Stay neutral, which I know you're very good at. I no longer read her
posts.

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> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 05:54:56a, Andy <q> told us...
>>
>>> I see what you mean. For me, I'll eat anything I can were I allowed.
>>> Between gout, high blood pressure and diabetes and cholesterol, they
>>> cancel out a lot of foods whether I like them or not.
>>>
>>> I've given up carbs (complex and simple) to bring my tryglycerides
>>> down and cut back on the boozing. When my triglycerides come down
>>> from 1500 to 120, I'll have whole grain bread garlic bread and
>>> spaghetti with wine again. My soy burgers sit on a bun of lettuce
>>> instead of a roll. There's not many calories in lettuce but it
>>> solves a problem.
>>>
>>> Processed foods are the worst. I've heard advice to shop the outside
>>> aisles at the market for the healthy food and agree.
>>>
>>> I'm not sold on organic everything, but hate food additives.
>>>
>>> I did switch from olive oils to "Hains" brand of safflower oil. It
>>> has less sat. fat. but more mono-unsaturated fat and less
>>> poly-unsaturated fat than any olive oil. For diet, I'll take the
>>> healthiest fat over flavor. YMMV.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>>

>> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!

>
> I was wondering about that, too. 118? I haven't seen that since age
> 18! I'm 5'7" and weighed in this morning at 141 pounds. Heck, I'm
> happy with that. :~)
>
> kili


My mother gained 2 lbs. when I was there doing all the cooking. She weighed
in at a whopping 77 lbs. Dad is probably 79 or 80 lbs. It's so sad.

Jill


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> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 12:25:39p, Ophelia told us...
>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 3.184...
>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:41:56a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>
>>>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>>>> 3.184...
>>>>>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 04:48:29a, Christine Dabney told us...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been reading the posts of several among us that have
>>>>>>>> dietary problems... And many seem to be so limited by what they
>>>>>>>> can eat, and even what they will eat. That includes the picky
>>>>>>>> eaters among all of us...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have absolutely no food allergies and I love to eat. I didn't
>>>>>>> balloon up
>>>>>>> to nearly 300 pounds at one time for nothing! And it wasn't by
>>>>>>> eating junk
>>>>>>> food. It wasn't easy getting back down to 180. :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pfft, that's just what your HEAD weighs, moron slurper.
>>>>>
>>>>> oooooooooooh kitty... that was horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Consider the source, O.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Look, dumbass, you have me killfiled because you don't want to read
>>> my posts or talk to me, but you're reading my posts and talking to
>>> me. What's wrong with this picture? Idiot.

>>
>> Well, I like both Wayne and cybercat! What am I to do/
>>
>>
>>

>
> Stay neutral, which I know you're very good at. I no longer read her
> posts.


Okie dokie I do like most people yasee! So it is hard when they fall
out.



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On Sat 12 Jan 2008 01:31:42p, jmcquown told us...

> kilikini wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Sat 12 Jan 2008 05:54:56a, Andy <q> told us...
>>>
>>>> I see what you mean. For me, I'll eat anything I can were I allowed.
>>>> Between gout, high blood pressure and diabetes and cholesterol, they
>>>> cancel out a lot of foods whether I like them or not.
>>>>
>>>> I've given up carbs (complex and simple) to bring my tryglycerides
>>>> down and cut back on the boozing. When my triglycerides come down
>>>> from 1500 to 120, I'll have whole grain bread garlic bread and
>>>> spaghetti with wine again. My soy burgers sit on a bun of lettuce
>>>> instead of a roll. There's not many calories in lettuce but it
>>>> solves a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Processed foods are the worst. I've heard advice to shop the outside
>>>> aisles at the market for the healthy food and agree.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sold on organic everything, but hate food additives.
>>>>
>>>> I did switch from olive oils to "Hains" brand of safflower oil. It
>>>> has less sat. fat. but more mono-unsaturated fat and less
>>>> poly-unsaturated fat than any olive oil. For diet, I'll take the
>>>> healthiest fat over flavor. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>> Today I weigh 118 lbs. From 247 (since May 28, 2007)
>>>>
>>> OMG, Andy, 118!?! You are truly an incredibly shrinking man!

>>
>> I was wondering about that, too. 118? I haven't seen that since age
>> 18! I'm 5'7" and weighed in this morning at 141 pounds. Heck, I'm
>> happy with that. :~)
>>
>> kili

>
> My mother gained 2 lbs. when I was there doing all the cooking. She
> weighed in at a whopping 77 lbs. Dad is probably 79 or 80 lbs. It's so
> sad.
>
> Jill
>
>
>


Yes, that is very sad, Jill. It's heart-wrenching to see our
parents/family go downhill as they age. My lost a lot of weight as she got
older, and particular in the last year of her life. She was never a large
person to begin with, but the lst year was terrible.

You have my sympathy in watching these changes take place.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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