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Mitch 05-08-2007 08:40 PM

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My friend is executive chef at a resort.
He just told me he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

Ward Abbott 05-08-2007 09:40 PM

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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:

>He just told me he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.


So what do we do now....????

Explain how that will change anyone's life.

If you choose to buy 300 pounds of brisket a week, I bet you will get
the same price.



Ward Abbott 05-08-2007 09:41 PM

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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:

>he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.


Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?



jmcquown 05-08-2007 09:49 PM

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Ward Abbott wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
>
>> he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

>
> Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?


Nawwww... those of us who stay at Motel 8 buy prime beef and bring along a
portable grill ;)

Jill



Reg 05-08-2007 09:57 PM

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Ward Abbott wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
>
>
>>he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

>
>
> Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?
>
>


Well, the next grade above Choice would be Prime, and I can pretty
much tell that you've never actually had USDA Prime brisket.
Methinks you're all talk on the subject.

I've had it from several sources, and it's a true waste of money.
It costs twice as much or more, and the additional marbling that
you pay all the extra money for ends up adding little or nothing
to the final product. Brisket is not steak.

In many cases, a Select grade cut of brisket will come out just
as good as Choice. Forget about Prime.

--
Reg


Dave Smith[_2_] 05-08-2007 10:00 PM

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jmcquown wrote:
>
> Ward Abbott wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
> >
> >> he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

> >
> > Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?

>
> Nawwww... those of us who stay at Motel 8 buy prime beef and bring along a
> portable grill ;)



LOL Eat better for less.

Edwin Pawlowski 05-08-2007 11:16 PM

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"Mitch" <Mitch@...> wrote in message
...
> My friend is executive chef at a resort.
> He just told me he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.


So, he is getting screwed. I paid $1.80 just a week or so ago. Select was
$1.00 on sale at Wal Mart a couple of weeks ago but I missed it.



Joe Cilinceon 06-08-2007 12:59 AM

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This is where I buy my meats exclusively here. All of this is USDA Prime in
small quanitites.

Flag Hill Farms
All Natural Meats
Antibiotic and Steroid Free
Beef and Pork
606-256-3796

BEEF
ground beef $2.99 lb
beef patties $3.50 lb 1/4lb patties or 1/3rd lb patties
eye of round steak $4.99 lb
round steak $4.99 lb (sold out)
tenderized round steak $4.99 lb (sold out)
boneless sirloin $7.99 lb
ny strip $14.99 lb
boneless ribeye $14.99 lb
filet mignon $16.99 lb
filet mignon tips $14.99 lb
beef liver $2.00 lb
beef tongue $4.99 lb
we are sold our of beef roasts at this time
chuck roast $3.99
shoulder roast $3.99
round roast $3.99
rump roast $4.99 lb
brisket $3.00 lb

Pork
sausage $2.99 lb
ground pork $2.99 lb
pork patties $3.50 lb 1/3rd lb patties
spare ribs $3.25 lb
baby back ribs $5.99 lb
country style ribs $2.99 lb
pork steaks $2.99 lb
pork roast $2.99 lb
boneless pork loin chops $4.99 lb
whole pork tenderloin $4.99 lb
pork liver $2.00 lb
items below are great to season beans
ham hocks $1.50 lb
backbones $1.00 lb
neckbones $1.00 lb
unseasoned bacon $1.00 lb
unseasoned jowel bacon $1.00 lb

--

Joe Cilinceon



Blair P. Houghton 06-08-2007 01:42 AM

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Ward Abbott > wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
>
>>he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

>
>Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?


Unless a restaurant intends to be known for serving prime
meat, it buys choice. If it doesn't even care to be known
for serving meat, it buys select.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton 06-08-2007 01:58 AM

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Reg > wrote:
>Well, the next grade above Choice would be Prime, and I can pretty
>much tell that you've never actually had USDA Prime brisket.
>I've had it from several sources, and it's a true waste of money.
>It costs twice as much or more, and the additional marbling that
>you pay all the extra money for ends up adding little or nothing
>to the final product. Brisket is not steak.


This is true. Except for strips and sirloins, worrying
about Prime vs. Choice is pretty pointless. The grade has
nothing to do with the toughness or taste of the fibers,
and any other cut will either start out fattier and be
overkill with Prime level fat, or will be meant to be
non-fatty (like filets), or will have to be cooked for
hours to break down the connective tissues (brisket),
rendering all the extra fat, making it greasy.

--Blair

Bobo Bonobo® 06-08-2007 02:35 AM

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On Aug 5, 5:16 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "Mitch" <Mitch@...> wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > My friend is executive chef at a resort.
> > He just told me he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

>
> So, he is getting screwed. I paid $1.80 just a week or so ago. Select was
> $1.00 on sale at Wal Mart a couple of weeks ago but I missed it.


I'd happily buy less tender grades of beef if they were significantly
cheaper. I have good teeth--at least so far.

That said, I bought two beautifully marbled sirloins today at
Schnuck's for $4.99/#
I bought another rather thin and very lean one to cut up for stir
frying with some green bell peppers tomorrow for breakfast, with
garlic, crushed red chilies, canned (I confess) mushrooms, and soy
sauce. Yeah, that's breakfast.

--Bryan


Sheldon 06-08-2007 02:39 AM

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"Joe Cilinceon" > wrote:
> This is where I buy my meats exclusively here. All of this is USDA Prime


Nonsense. None of their meat is USDA graded... only USDA inspected...
all meat sold in the US is USDA inspected.


> Flag Hill Farms
> All Natural Meats
> Antibiotic and Steroid Free
> Beef and Pork
> 606-256-3796
>
> BEEF
> ground beef $2.99 lb
> beef patties $3.50 lb 1/4lb patties or 1/3rd lb patties
> eye of round steak $4.99 lb
> round steak $4.99 lb (sold out)
> tenderized round steak $4.99 lb (sold out)
> boneless sirloin $7.99 lb
> ny strip $14.99 lb
> boneless ribeye $14.99 lb
> filet mignon $16.99 lb
> filet mignon tips $14.99 lb
> beef liver $2.00 lb
> beef tongue $4.99 lb
> we are sold our of beef roasts at this time
> chuck roast $3.99
> shoulder roast $3.99
> round roast $3.99
> rump roast $4.99 lb
> brisket $3.00 lb
>
> Pork
> sausage $2.99 lb
> ground pork $2.99 lb
> pork patties $3.50 lb 1/3rd lb patties
> spare ribs $3.25 lb
> baby back ribs $5.99 lb
> country style ribs $2.99 lb
> pork steaks $2.99 lb
> pork roast $2.99 lb
> boneless pork loin chops $4.99 lb
> whole pork tenderloin $4.99 lb
> pork liver $2.00 lb
> items below are great to season beans
> ham hocks $1.50 lb
> backbones $1.00 lb
> neckbones $1.00 lb
> unseasoned bacon $1.00 lb
> unseasoned jowel bacon $1.00 lb
>
> --
>
> Joe Cilinceon




Omelet 06-08-2007 10:16 AM

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In article >,
Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:

> My friend is executive chef at a resort.
> He just told me he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.


Trimmed packer cut (choice to me) is $1.69 here.
--
Peace, Om

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Omelet 06-08-2007 10:16 AM

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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Ward Abbott wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:40:27 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
> >
> >> he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.

> >
> > Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?

>
> Nawwww... those of us who stay at Motel 8 buy prime beef and bring along a
> portable grill ;)
>
> Jill


<lol>
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Omelet 06-08-2007 10:18 AM

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In article > ,
Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

> or will have to be cooked for
> hours to break down the connective tissues (brisket),
> rendering all the extra fat, making it greasy.
>
> --Blair


Not if cooked elevated on a rack so the fat drains off.
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Omelet 06-08-2007 10:20 AM

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In article .com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> Nonsense. None of their meat is USDA graded... only USDA inspected...
> all meat sold in the US is USDA inspected.


Not if it is private sale.

I've bought calves a couple of times on the hoof.
The meat was not graded.

It was inspected tho'.

Range veal. ;-d
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Joe Cilinceon 06-08-2007 01:49 PM

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I meant to say USDA inspected and didn't mean to say prime. The quality for
the most part is prime though.

--

Joe Cilinceon


"Joe Cilinceon" > wrote in message
...
> This is where I buy my meats exclusively here. All of this is USDA Prime
> in small quanitites.
> Joe Cilinceon
>
>




Nancy2 06-08-2007 08:55 PM

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On Aug 5, 2:40 pm, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
> My friend is executive chef at a resort.
> He just told me he pays $1.85/pound for choice brisket.


We used to buy all kinds of stuff from a local restaurant's kitchen -
they'd just order extra and let us know when to pick our supply up.
We didn't have to order huge quantities, either. It wouldn't hurt to
ask.

N.


Sheldon 06-08-2007 10:18 PM

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Omelet wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > Nonsense. None of their meat is USDA graded... only USDA inspected...
> > all meat sold in the US is USDA inspected.

>
> Not if it is private sale.
>
> I've bought calves a couple of times on the hoof.
> The meat was not graded.
>
> It was inspected tho'.


Try rereading, this time without moving your lips.

Sheldon


Sheldon 06-08-2007 10:23 PM

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"Joe Cilinceon" wrote:
> I meant to say USDA inspected and didn't mean to say prime.


Yeah, right... surrrre ya did.

> The quality for the most part is prime though.


Highly doubtful, I seriously doubt their beef would make the choice
grade, or they'd not be selling at such low prices as you posted.

Sheldon


Blair P. Houghton 07-08-2007 06:09 AM

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Omelet > wrote:
>In article > ,
> Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>
>> or will have to be cooked for
>> hours to break down the connective tissues (brisket),
>> rendering all the extra fat, making it greasy.

>
>Not if cooked elevated on a rack so the fat drains off.


Still greasier.

Optimal bbq involves basting the meat. If it just starts
out fatty, that backfires. I've had bbq from the fatty
end of the brisket. It's spongy and not really pleasant.

--Blair

Omelet 07-08-2007 06:58 PM

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In article om>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > > Nonsense. None of their meat is USDA graded... only USDA inspected...
> > > all meat sold in the US is USDA inspected.

> >
> > Not if it is private sale.
> >
> > I've bought calves a couple of times on the hoof.
> > The meat was not graded.
> >
> > It was inspected tho'.

>
> Try rereading, this time without moving your lips.
>
> Sheldon


Oops.

My bad.

I read it as all meat is graded...
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Omelet 07-08-2007 06:59 PM

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In article >,
Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
> >In article > ,
> > Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> >
> >> or will have to be cooked for
> >> hours to break down the connective tissues (brisket),
> >> rendering all the extra fat, making it greasy.

> >
> >Not if cooked elevated on a rack so the fat drains off.

>
> Still greasier.
>
> Optimal bbq involves basting the meat. If it just starts
> out fatty, that backfires. I've had bbq from the fatty
> end of the brisket. It's spongy and not really pleasant.
>
> --Blair


Ever cooked duck or goose?

It is possible to cook those and not have them come out greasy.

Racks.
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Blair P. Houghton 08-08-2007 03:45 AM

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Omelet > wrote:
>Ever cooked duck or goose?
>
>It is possible to cook those and not have them come out greasy.


Most of that fat is in a thick layer on the outside of the
meat.

--Blair

Omelet 08-08-2007 05:11 PM

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In article > ,
Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
> >Ever cooked duck or goose?
> >
> >It is possible to cook those and not have them come out greasy.

>
> Most of that fat is in a thick layer on the outside of the
> meat.
>
> --Blair


Yes, but a lot of it cooks out and it's gross to have the bird
"swimming" in the melted grease.

Racks are a must imho.
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Mitch 11-08-2007 02:20 PM

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>Can't he get a better grade than choice? Is he cooking at Motel 8?
>



He's executive chef at a major casino resort.


Mitch 11-08-2007 02:21 PM

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>I get mine for $1.58 for choice briskets.


Where do you live?
I can't get it for less than $5.99/lb, and that's considered "on
sale."

Omelet 12-08-2007 10:40 AM

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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:21:58 GMT, Mitch wrote:
>
> >>I get mine for $1.58 for choice briskets.

> >
> > Where do you live?
> > I can't get it for less than $5.99/lb, and that's considered "on
> > sale."

>
> Loos liek they just brought he price down to match Walamrt:
> $1.38/lb.
>
> I live in Austin, but many people have reported brisket at their
> Walmarts in various areas across the country. And it's one of
> the few pieces of meat you can buy from them that isn't treated,
> processed, and ruined.


I've been hankerin' for a slow cooked brisket. I'll have to check
Wally-world locally. They have been way too high at HEB.
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Omelet 12-08-2007 08:58 PM

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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:40:03 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > I've been hankerin' for a slow cooked brisket. I'll have to check
> > Wally-world locally. They have been way too high at HEB.

>
> I'd gladly pay the extra $.19/lb and buy it HEB rather than
> Walmart.
>
> Besides, HEB just lowered their price on brisket. Same price as
> Walmart. You are looking at packer cuts, right?
>
> -sw


Yes. :-)

I'll be out and about in Town Teusday morning for various reasons, so
I'll have to czech it out then.

Thanks!
--
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Omelet 13-08-2007 08:18 AM

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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:58:02 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > I'll be out and about in Town Teusday morning for various reasons, so
> > I'll have to czech it out then.

>
> Sun Harvest has whole beef tenderloins for $5.79/lb through
> Wednesday.
>
> -sw


Sun Harvest has really good meat too. Thanks.
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