My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT they swear they'll
slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP! That's labor intensive!) I'm
sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on
sale at WalMart. :-P

Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted the rest
when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING? Of course! I
started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce, meatball subs, stuffed
shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise, cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping),
manicotti, chicken cacciatore, tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian
style meatloaf, Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the
recipes I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the other end.
Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....

Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
said!"

Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.

kili

On Jun 14, 4:05 pm, "kilikini" > wrote:
> My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT they swear they'll
> slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP! That's labor intensive!) I'm
> sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on
> sale at WalMart. :-P
>
> Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted the rest
> when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING? Of course! I
> started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce, meatball subs, stuffed
> shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise, cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping),
> manicotti, chicken cacciatore, tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian
> style meatloaf, Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the
> recipes I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
> loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the other end.
> Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
>
> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
> said!"
>
> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>
> kili

Very sad, but it sounds like you will reap the benefits. A nice tuna
or shrimp salad stuffed in them is great on those hot summer evenings.
Enjoy!

kilikini said...

> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you
> just said!"
>
> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>
> kili


A cingular "moment"?

Andy

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...

> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you
> just
> said!"
>
> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>

It is, and sadder still is the shape your friends will be in down the road,
unless they are genetically blessed and really lucky.

merryb wrote:
> On Jun 14, 4:05 pm, "kilikini" > wrote:
>> My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They
>> only want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't
>> cook, they only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT
>> they swear they'll slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP!
>> That's labor intensive!) I'm sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as
>> well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on sale at WalMart. :-P
>>
>> Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted
>> the rest when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING?
>> Of course! I started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce,
>> meatball subs, stuffed shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise,
>> cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping), manicotti, chicken cacciatore,
>> tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian style meatloaf,
>> Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the recipes
>> I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
>> loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the
>> other end. Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
>>
>> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
>> you just said!"
>>
>> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>>
>> kili
>
> Very sad, but it sounds like you will reap the benefits. A nice tuna
> or shrimp salad stuffed in them is great on those hot summer evenings.
> Enjoy!

I thought of that while I was typing! LOL. Great minds think alike!

kili

cybercat wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
>> you just
>> said!"
>>
>> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>>
>
> It is, and sadder still is the shape your friends will be in down the
> road, unless they are genetically blessed and really lucky.

No, the entire family is morbidly obese and currently suffer from a myriad
of health problems. My friend has a 16 year old daughter who weighs in at
close to 300 pounds, if not more, and her 13 year old is quickly approaching
the 180 pound mark. (The *really* sad thing is that I get her 13 year old's
hand-me-down sweaters and jackets when they no longer fit her.)

As I've said before, I have no problem with heavyset people. Enjoy *good*,
healthy, food, eat well and eat all you want for all I care. But this
family eats nothing except crap that comes from a can, a box, a bag, or a
drive thru - and on the U.S. taxes.

Okay, this is an example of how bad it is. My friend is having a sleepover
birthday party for her 13 year old tomorrow night. The girls are going out
for pizza for dinner and she's buying pop-tarts for them for breakfast. My
mouth dropped. I said to her, "Why don't you make some french toast a day
ahead and the kids can just pop the slices into the microwave in the
morning?" (Cause, God forbid she has to get up to cook, you know?) Her
answer? "I don't know how to make french toast. Pop tarts will be fine."

As Ron "Tater Salad" White says, "You can't fix stupid."

kili

kilikini wrote:
As my mind whirled through the
> recipes I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
> loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the other end.
> Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
>
> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
> said!"
>
> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>
> kili

Not just sad, but really, REALLY depressing too.
<sigh>

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT they swear they'll
> slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP! That's labor intensive!) I'm
> sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on
> sale at WalMart. :-P
>
> Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted the rest
> when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING? Of course! I
> started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce, meatball subs, stuffed
> shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise, cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping),
> manicotti, chicken cacciatore, tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian
> style meatloaf, Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the
> recipes I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
> loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the other end.
> Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
>
> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
> said!"
>
> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>
> kili

They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They
>> only want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't
>> cook, they only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT
>> they swear they'll slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP!
>> That's labor intensive!) I'm sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as
>> well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on sale at WalMart. :-P
>>
>> Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted
>> the rest when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING?
>> Of course! I started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce,
>> meatball subs, stuffed shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise,
>> cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping), manicotti, chicken cacciatore,
>> tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian style meatloaf,
>> Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the recipes
>> I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
>> loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the
>> other end. Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
>>
>> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
>> you just said!"
>>
>> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>>
>> kili
>
> They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d

I agree. AND, she's not teaching her kids anything; she's perpetuating the
madness and she doesn't even care.

kili

kilikini wrote:
> My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT they swear they'll
> slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP! That's labor intensive!) I'm
> sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on
> sale at WalMart. :-P
>
> Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted the rest
> when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING? Of course! I
> started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce, meatball subs, stuffed
> shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise, cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping),
> manicotti, chicken cacciatore, tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian
> style meatloaf, Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the
> recipes I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
> loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the other end.
> Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
>
> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
> said!"
>
> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>
> kili
>
>
That IS sad. I am guessing that the majority of us here know
all of them, and that conjuring up a vague recipe and image
doesn't stretch our memories at all.

--
Jean B.

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
> > My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> > want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> > only buy processed food on their food stamp card.
> > Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
> > said!"
> >
> > Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
> >
> > kili
>
> They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d

I've known several people who view food as fuel. They know they need to
eat in order to have a life, and their bodies complain just like ours do
when they don't get food. However, these people that I know personally,
are all familiar with good nutrition. They are all of normal weight.
They are physically fit. I don't have a problem with their diet,
although I don't identify with it.

kilikini wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
>> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
>>> you just
>>> said!"
>>>
>>> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>>>
>>
>> It is, and sadder still is the shape your friends will be in down the
>> road, unless they are genetically blessed and really lucky.
>
> No, the entire family is morbidly obese and currently suffer from a
> myriad of health problems. My friend has a 16 year old daughter who
> weighs in at close to 300 pounds, if not more, and her 13 year old is
> quickly approaching the 180 pound mark. (The *really* sad thing is
> that I get her 13 year old's hand-me-down sweaters and jackets when
> they no longer fit her.)
>
> As I've said before, I have no problem with heavyset people. Enjoy
> *good*, healthy, food, eat well and eat all you want for all I care.
> But this family eats nothing except crap that comes from a can, a
> box, a bag, or a drive thru - and on the U.S. taxes.
>
(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru, or
even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be anywhere
*near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods like rotisserie
chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli counter, either. I can
understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule, but what the heck is wrong with
fresh food someone else put together at the grocery store? Gotta be better
than boxes of brownie mix and Kraft mac & cheese.

Jill

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> >> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
> >> you just said!"
> >>
> >> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
> >>
> >> kili
> >
> > They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d
>
> I agree. AND, she's not teaching her kids anything; she's perpetuating the
> madness and she doesn't even care.
>
> kili

I wish you could help on just that one point...

A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
what I mean?

Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)
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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> kilikini wrote:
> > My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> > want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> > only buy processed food on their food stamp card. BUT they swear they'll
> > slice a few tomatoes up for a salad. (GASP! That's labor intensive!) I'm
> > sure they'll make a couple of BLT's as well, *if* the pre-cooked bacon is on
> > sale at WalMart. :-P
> >
> > Anyway, my friend called me this afternoon and asked me if I wanted the rest
> > when she gets them. I was like, what? Are you KIDDING? Of course! I
> > started thinking about marinara sauce, pizza sauce, meatball subs, stuffed
> > shells, ziti, calzones, bouillabaise, cioppino, breadsticks (for dipping),
> > manicotti, chicken cacciatore, tomato soup, tomato bisque, moussaka, Italian
> > style meatloaf, Manhattan Clam Chowder, etc. As my mind whirled through the
> > recipes I could concoct with fresh, real tomatoes, I listed each recipe out
> > loud into the phone.........Then silence. I heard nothing on the other end.
> > Dead Silence. 10 seconds went by....
> >
> > Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you just
> > said!"
> >
> > Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
> >
> > kili
> >
> >
> That IS sad. I am guessing that the majority of us here know
> all of them, and that conjuring up a vague recipe and image
> doesn't stretch our memories at all.

I know most of them and can google for the rest.
I love fresh 'maters and would probably use most of them for Insalata.
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In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "kilikini" > wrote:
> >
> > > My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> > > want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> > > only buy processed food on their food stamp card.
> > > Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you
> > > just
> > > said!"
> > >
> > > Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
> > >
> > > kili
> >
> > They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d
>
> I've known several people who view food as fuel. They know they need to
> eat in order to have a life, and their bodies complain just like ours do
> when they don't get food. However, these people that I know personally,
> are all familiar with good nutrition. They are all of normal weight.
> They are physically fit. I don't have a problem with their diet,
> although I don't identify with it.

While I do try to cook as much for nutrition as flavor most of the time,
life sucks enough as it is sometimes...

Why give up the joy of food?

If you REALLY know how to cook, food can be fuel AND joy!!!
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"Omelet" > wrote
>
> A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
> what I mean?
>
> Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)


That is a great idea.

I have a relative who is having big problems with her teenaged
boys acting out. When they stayed with us, they were impossible
to feed as they eat nothing healthy at all. I asked what to buy when
all my ideas were shot down, and was told big generic boxes of
dead sweet cereal like Captain Crunch and such, sugared sodas,
salty chips. We ordered pizza and two of them would not eat it
if it had anything but cheese on it.

As far as their acting out, all that sugar and caffeine along with all
that raging testosterone? What a nightmare. Just the rapid
fluctuations of blood sugar that eating all that refined carb
crap causes would make them bad boys. It is sad.



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On Jun 15, 11:03 am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article >,
> > Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > In article >,
> > > "kilikini" > wrote:
>
> > > > My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
> > > > want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
> > > > only buy processed food on their food stamp card.
> > > > Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you
> > > > just
> > > > said!"
>
> > > > Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>
> > > > kili
>
> > > They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d
>
> > I've known several people who view food as fuel. They know they need to
> > eat in order to have a life, and their bodies complain just like ours do
> > when they don't get food. However, these people that I know personally,
> > are all familiar with good nutrition. They are all of normal weight.
> > They are physically fit. I don't have a problem with their diet,
> > although I don't identify with it.
>
> While I do try to cook as much for nutrition as flavor most of the time,
> life sucks enough as it is sometimes...
>
> Why give up the joy of food?
>
> If you REALLY know how to cook, food can be fuel AND joy!!!
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I agree- it's one of the few simple pleasures we can afford. I have a
hard time serving crap to my 9 year old, but fortunately he likes good
food, like almost all vegetables. I never forced either of my kids to
eat what was healthy- just started from the beginning of not doing the
short order cook thing and giving in.

In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
> >
> > A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
> > what I mean?
> >
> > Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)
>
>
> That is a great idea.
>
> I have a relative who is having big problems with her teenaged
> boys acting out. When they stayed with us, they were impossible
> to feed as they eat nothing healthy at all. I asked what to buy when
> all my ideas were shot down, and was told big generic boxes of
> dead sweet cereal like Captain Crunch and such, sugared sodas,
> salty chips. We ordered pizza and two of them would not eat it
> if it had anything but cheese on it.
>
> As far as their acting out, all that sugar and caffeine along with all
> that raging testosterone? What a nightmare. Just the rapid
> fluctuations of blood sugar that eating all that refined carb
> crap causes would make them bad boys. It is sad.

Getting kids to participate in cooking gives them more of a feeling of
control. :-)
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jmcquown wrote:
> kilikini wrote:

> (snippage)
> They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
> or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
> anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
> like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
> counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
> but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
> at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
> Kraft mac & cheese.
>
> Jill

I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in
:

> jmcquown wrote:
>> kilikini wrote:
>
>> (snippage)
>> They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
>> or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
>> anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
>> like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
>> counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
>> but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
>> at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
>> Kraft mac & cheese.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
> deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh
> sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?
>
> kili
>
>
>

not price wise...deli stuff is more pricey than canned crud. One sandwich
would probably equate to two cans of Spaghettios.

--

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It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

kilikini wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>> kilikini wrote:
>
>> (snippage)
>> They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
>> or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
>> anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
>> like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
>> counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
>> but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
>> at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
>> Kraft mac & cheese.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli
> food
> on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
> the deli be better than spaghettios?
>
> kili
Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why should
the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and cookpot I
assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics, but deli food.
damn!

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>>>> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
>>>> you just said!"
>>>>
>>>> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>>>>
>>>> kili
>>>
>>> They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d
>>
>> I agree. AND, she's not teaching her kids anything; she's
>> perpetuating the madness and she doesn't even care.
>>
>> kili
>
> I wish you could help on just that one point...
>
> A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
> what I mean?
>
> Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)

I *do* plan on making homemade pizza and I'll bake them one when I do.
Their current favorite pizza place is a pizza buffet chain called Hungry
Howies. It's $5.00 a pizza for up to 3 toppings, I think. $5.00 a pizza?
I think NOT. Ugh! I need to school them. :~)

I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up together.
Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae fudge topping,
and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream sandwiches on top of the
pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top. Put it in the freezer.
Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake! :-P

When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked, "Okay,
where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a pot to
cook it in?" They looked at me like I was nuts. They countered with, "No,
this is instant." I took a few steps back and replied, "I have no idea what
to do with instant pudding. How does it work? You mean you don't have to
cook it on the stove?"

We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!

kili

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> > kilikini wrote:
>
> > (snippage)
> > They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
> > or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
> > anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ).


> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
> on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
> the deli be better than spaghettios?


Any time you make laws or regulations, the line has to be drawn
somewhere. There's always a significant number of things that end up on
the wrong side of the line. There's some junk in the deli section.
Unless you list every single item, some stuff won't make sense.

Carton of tomatoes

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Fri, Jun 15, 2007, 7:02pm From:
(kilikini)
Omelet wrote:
In article >, "kilikini"
> wrote:
I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up
together. Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae
fudge topping, and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream
sandwiches on top of the pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top.
Put it in the freezer. Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake!
:-P
When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked,
"Okay, where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a
pot to cook it in?" * They looked at me like I was nuts. They
countered with, "No, this is instant." I took a few steps back and
replied, "I have no idea what to do with instant pudding. How does it
work? You mean you don't have to cook it on the stove?"
We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!
kili

<<They had that cake on TV recently,in the story about the couple who
had 16 children,dont recall their name,They made a similar cake with ice
cream sandwiches and instant pudding.I guess with that many kids you
need to be creative!
Smitty in St,Pete

In article >,
(J S) wrote:



> <<They had that cake on TV recently,in the story about the couple who
> had 16 children,dont recall their name,They made a similar cake with ice
> cream sandwiches and instant pudding.I guess with that many kids you
> need to be creative!
> Smitty in St,Pete

When I was in high school, I had a friend with seven brothers and seven
sisters. She showed me their cake mix. It was a 100 pound tub. When
you have that many kids, you can't afford ice cream sandwiches (the
father was a doctor).

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "kilikini" > wrote:
>>
>>>>> Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
>>>>> you just said!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.
>>>>>
>>>>> kili
>>>>
>>>> They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d
>>>
>>> I agree. AND, she's not teaching her kids anything; she's
>>> perpetuating the madness and she doesn't even care.
>>>
>>> kili
>>
>> I wish you could help on just that one point...
>>
>> A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
>> what I mean?
>>
>> Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)
>
> I *do* plan on making homemade pizza and I'll bake them one when I do.
> Their current favorite pizza place is a pizza buffet chain called Hungry
> Howies. It's $5.00 a pizza for up to 3 toppings, I think. $5.00 a pizza?
> I think NOT. Ugh! I need to school them. :~)
>
> I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
> daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
> Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up together.
> Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae fudge topping,
> and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream sandwiches on top of
> the
> pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top. Put it in the freezer.
> Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake! :-P
>
> When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked, "Okay,
> where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a pot to
> cook it in?" They looked at me like I was nuts. They countered with,
> "No,
> this is instant." I took a few steps back and replied, "I have no idea
> what
> to do with instant pudding. How does it work? You mean you don't have to
> cook it on the stove?"
>
> We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
> know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!
>
> kili
>
>

IIRC, that "cake recipe", or one very similar was in a recent issue of Kraft
Foods magazine (you can get it free from Kraft's website). So, maybe, just
maybe, she at least reads about foods (or just looks at the pictures), other
than the ones listed on the menu under the clowns head!

winston winslo wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> (snippage)
>>> They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a
>>> drive-thru, or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that
>>> they would be anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy
>>> pre-prepared foods like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared
>>> items from the deli counter, either. I can understand the
>>> restaurant/drive-thru rule, but what the heck is wrong with fresh
>>> food someone else put together at the grocery store? Gotta be
>>> better than boxes of brownie mix and Kraft mac & cheese.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
>> deli food
>> on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich
>> from the deli be better than spaghettios?
>>
>> kili
> Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why
> should the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and
> cookpot I assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics,
> but deli food. damn!

The point is the mother refuses to cook so if not deli-food then it's pure
crap. She and her daughters are grossly overweight.

kilikini wrote:

>
> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
> on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
> the deli be better than spaghettios?
>
> kili

That's probably considered restaurant food.

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in and
have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil, cover
with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours, then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could compete
with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The tomatoes are free.

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Giusi wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
>>
>> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
>> deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a
>> fresh sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?
>>
>> kili
>
> That's probably considered restaurant food.
>
> Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
> and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
> they
> can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
> big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
> cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
> then eat
> with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
> compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
> tomatoes are free.

I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.

kili

kilikini wrote:
> Giusi wrote:
>> kilikini wrote:

>> Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
>> and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
>> they
>> can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
>> big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
>> cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
>> then eat
>> with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
>> compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
>> tomatoes are free.
>
> I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
> tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
> cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.
>
> kili

If you are teaching a baby to walk, you don't take him on a country mile
long hike. Start even easier. Don't even turn on the stove. Just get
them to good food and stand back.

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In article >, willille-
says...
> kilikini wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> kilikini wrote:
> >
> >> (snippage)
> >> They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
> >> or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
> >> anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
> >> like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
> >> counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
> >> but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
> >> at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
> >> Kraft mac & cheese.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli
> > food
> > on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
> > the deli be better than spaghettios?
> >
> > kili
> Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why should
> the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and cookpot I
> assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics, but deli food.
> damn!
>

Spoken like a true neo-conservative. I know working people who still get
food stamps because their income won't cover things like, oh, food.
Minimum wage is not a livable wage. It's the cruel joke we play.

And a college education isn't cheap. And that seems to be the minimum
entry ticket these days.

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:44:27 +0200, Giusi > wrote:

>kilikini wrote:
>> Giusi wrote:
>>> kilikini wrote:
>
>>> Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
>>> and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
>>> they
>>> can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
>>> big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
>>> cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
>>> then eat
>>> with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
>>> compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
>>> tomatoes are free.
>>
>> I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
>> tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
>> cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.
>>
>> kili
>
>If you are teaching a baby to walk, you don't take him on a country mile
>long hike. Start even easier. Don't even turn on the stove. Just get
>them to good food and stand back.


Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.


* Exported from MasterCook *

Salsa Di Pomodori

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Pasta

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 tomatoes -- chopped
1/2 cup onion -- chopped
1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
1 clove garlic -- minced
3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
2 tablespoons butter

Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.

Toss pasta with butter.

Add sauce, toss to coat.

Season to taste.



--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:


> I *do* plan on making homemade pizza and I'll bake them one when I do.
> Their current favorite pizza place is a pizza buffet chain called Hungry
> Howies. It's $5.00 a pizza for up to 3 toppings, I think. $5.00 a pizza?
> I think NOT. Ugh! I need to school them. :~)
>
> I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
> daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
> Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up together.
> Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae fudge topping,
> and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream sandwiches on top of the
> pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top. Put it in the freezer.
> Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake! :-P

Clever... but EW! <G>

I confess to shelling out at Baskin Robbins once per year for one for my
sister's B-day as she specifically requests them. I know I could make
one for less tho'.

>
> When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked, "Okay,
> where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a pot to
> cook it in?" They looked at me like I was nuts. They countered with, "No,
> this is instant." I took a few steps back and replied, "I have no idea what
> to do with instant pudding. How does it work? You mean you don't have to
> cook it on the stove?"

<smiles> I understand.
At least they did not get the pre-made puddings in small cartons.

>
> We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
> know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!
>
> kili

<lol>

I do know how to make that stuff, but I don't buy it. I, too, learned at
a friends place back when I was in high school. :-)
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In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> (J S) wrote:
>
>
>
> > <<They had that cake on TV recently,in the story about the couple who
> > had 16 children,dont recall their name,They made a similar cake with ice
> > cream sandwiches and instant pudding.I guess with that many kids you
> > need to be creative!
> > Smitty in St,Pete
>
> When I was in high school, I had a friend with seven brothers and seven
> sisters. She showed me their cake mix. It was a 100 pound tub. When
> you have that many kids, you can't afford ice cream sandwiches (the
> father was a doctor).

Bet they ate a lot of pasta! ;-)
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In article >,
Giusi > wrote:

> kilikini wrote:
>
> >
> > I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
> > on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
> > the deli be better than spaghettios?
> >
> > kili
>
> That's probably considered restaurant food.
>
> Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in and
> have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that they
> can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
> big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil, cover
> with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours, then eat
> with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could compete
> with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The tomatoes are free.

Even when I sometimes cheat and use a commercially prepared tomato sauce
as a base, I tend to like it chunkier, so I blanch and peel fresh
tomatoes (that is SO easy to do!) and dice them to add to the sauce.
Freshens the flavor too along with the fresh herbs from the herb garden.
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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Giusi wrote:
> > kilikini wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
> >> deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a
> >> fresh sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?
> >>
> >> kili
> >
> > That's probably considered restaurant food.
> >
> > Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
> > and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
> > they
> > can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
> > big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
> > cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
> > then eat
> > with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
> > compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
> > tomatoes are free.
>
> I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
> tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
> cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.
>
> kili

Even if you can just rescue _one_ of them, it'll be worth the effort. :-)
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In article >,
The Cook > wrote:

> Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.
>
>
> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Salsa Di Pomodori
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Pasta
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 3 tomatoes -- chopped
> 1/2 cup onion -- chopped
> 1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
> 1 clove garlic -- minced
> 3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
> 2 tablespoons butter
>
> Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.
>
> Toss pasta with butter.
>
> Add sauce, toss to coat.
>
> Season to taste.

Hm, cool idea, but I detest raw onion and cooking garlic mellows it and
takes away the heat.

I think, in this one case, if it's not going to be cooked, I'd
substitute granulated garlic and onion powder.
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In article >,
says...
> In article >,
> The Cook > wrote:
>
> > Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.
> >
> >
> > * Exported from MasterCook *
> >
> > Salsa Di Pomodori
> >
> > Recipe By :
> > Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
> > Categories : Pasta
> >
> > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> > -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> > 3 tomatoes -- chopped
> > 1/2 cup onion -- chopped
> > 1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
> > 1 clove garlic -- minced
> > 3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
> > 2 tablespoons butter
> >
> > Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.
> >
> > Toss pasta with butter.
> >
> > Add sauce, toss to coat.
> >
> > Season to taste.
>
> Hm, cool idea, but I detest raw onion and cooking garlic mellows it and
> takes away the heat.
>
> I think, in this one case, if it's not going to be cooked, I'd
> substitute granulated garlic and onion powder.
>

Garlic needs very little heat to cook. If the pan is pretty hot 30
seconds is usually enough. It's usually the LAST thing I add to most
non-sauce dishes.

The Cook wrote:
>
> Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.
>
>
> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Salsa Di Pomodori
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Pasta
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 3 tomatoes -- chopped
> 1/2 cup onion -- chopped
> 1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
> 1 clove garlic -- minced
> 3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
> 2 tablespoons butter
>
> Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.
>
> Toss pasta with butter.
>
> Add sauce, toss to coat.
>
> Season to taste.

That sounds so nice and fresh! Recipe saved. Thanks!

kili

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> Giusi wrote:
>>> kilikini wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
>>>> deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a
>>>> fresh sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?
>>>>
>>>> kili
>>>
>>> That's probably considered restaurant food.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
>>> and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes
>>> that they
>>> can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut
>>> into big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of
>>> basil, cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few
>>> hours, then eat
>>> with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
>>> compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
>>> tomatoes are free.
>>
>> I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
>> tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show
>> them that cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up
>> from their freezer.
>>
>> kili
>
> Even if you can just rescue _one_ of them, it'll be worth the effort.
> :-)

I'm working on the 16 year old. She's actually on a diet and is
semi-interested in cooking. She knows enough to thaw out chicken breast and
bake them with lemon pepper. It's a start! Boring, but it's a start.

kili