for brewing. it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
here's a photo:
http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...rewery/copper-
pot-1.jpg
or: http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx

as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous. anyone
have any clue what it's original use might have been?
lee

"enigma" > wrote:
> for brewing. it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
> here's a photo:
> http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...rewery/copper-
> pot-1.jpg
> or: http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>
> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous. anyone
> have any clue what it's original use might have been?
> lee

Just a big pot from a restaurant kitchen of years gone by.

Take a look at the pots and lids in this photo of the kitchen at Delmonico's in
NYC circa 1902. Especially the lid in the foreground, where you can't see the
matching pot. That one has got to be way bigger than the one you got. I'm pretty
sure the pots are copper.

Personally, I've only seen really large pots in the galleys of old Navy ships,
and those weren't made of copper. They were as big though as the ones in this
photograph:

http://tinyurl.com/2soxv7

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

enigma wrote:
>
> for brewing. it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
> here's a photo:
> http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...rewery/copper-
> pot-1.jpg
> or: http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>
> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous. anyone
> have any clue what it's original use might have been?
> lee


It is for cooking a large amount of something :-)

On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

>for brewing. it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
>which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
>here's a photo:
>http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...rewery/copper-
>pot-1.jpg
>or: http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>
>as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous. anyone
>have any clue what it's original use might have been?
>lee


You can probably tighten up the rivet by a little bit of hammering.
If you have to solder make sure the solder contains no lead.

Allan Matthews > wrote in
:

> You can probably tighten up the rivet by a little bit of
> hammering. If you have to solder make sure the solder
> contains no lead.

no, it's cracked around the one rivet. i'm afraid hammering
would make it worse.
i have solder & flux for copper plumbing (bought recently) so
neither has lead, however, i'm wondering if there might not be
a bit of flex if the pot is lifted by the handles & will the
plumbing solder flex or pop?
lee

enigma wrote:
>
> i have solder & flux for copper plumbing (bought recently) so
> neither has lead, however, i'm wondering if there might not be
> a bit of flex if the pot is lifted by the handles & will the
> plumbing solder flex or pop?

Solder isn't very strong, and I'd expect it to crack
after a number of uses. Brazing would make more sense,
as brazing alloys are generally stronger.

If the cracks around the rivet aren't too big, you could
drill out the hole to remove the cracks and put in a larger
rivet or a nut-and-bolt. Or you could braze a patch over
the hole, and drill the patch for reattaching the handle.

enigma wrote:
> it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
> here's a photo:http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...rewery/copper-
> pot-1.jpg *
> or:http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>
> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous. anyone
> have any clue what it's original use might have been?
> lee

Just an old pot ready for service as a planter... I'd remove all the
old rivets and put in all new... soldering will only **** it up, which
would probably go unnoticed by you... just look at how you live...
aren't you embarrassed to show us your decrepit garage door... that
rotten driveway, etc... one can only imagine your friggin' kitchen....
jeeze but you are some kinda tobacco road trash.

Sheldon

Sheldon > wrote in
oups.com:

> enigma wrote:
>> it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
>> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
>> here's a
>> photo:http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_NOTES/Home_Brewer
>> y/copper- pot-1.jpg *
>> or:http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>>
>> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous.
>> anyone have any clue what it's original use might have
>> been? lee
>
> Just an old pot ready for service as a planter... I'd
> remove all the old rivets and put in all new... soldering
> will only **** it up, which would probably go unnoticed by
> you... just look at how you live... aren't you embarrassed
> to show us your decrepit garage door... that rotten
> driveway, etc... one can only imagine your friggin'
> kitchen.... jeeze but you are some kinda tobacco road
> trash.

no, Sheldon, i'm NOT embarrassed by the way i live. yes, the
garage needs residing & new doors. it was a mess when i bought
the place. my house also currently needs exterior repainting,
which will be done after the front entry has been restored
this summer. it has a very rare type of matchstick molding
trim & will be spectacular after it's stripped, missing bits
repaced, decayed bits repaired & the door is rebuilt.
just because *you* are a lazy old fart that buys new housing,
doesn't mean everyone should. my house was built in 1815. it
has some age wear that we are restoring. the garage is a
fairly new (relative to the house. i think it's from the late
1970s), cheap kit thing the previous owner threw up (very
poorly, i may add. one should overlap siding vertically, not
butt it!)
at the moment, i'm trying to decide if i should keep the
garage, or tear it down & rebuild the barn in that area. the
original barn burned in the 1930s, but the bank stone walls
are still in good shape behind the ugly garage. a bank barn
would really be more useful to me than the garage will ever
be.
thanks for your opinion on something you don't understand
lee

enigma wrote:
> Sheldon > wrote in
> oups.com:
>
>
> no, Sheldon, i'm NOT embarrassed by the way i live. yes, the
> garage needs residing & new doors. it was a mess when i bought
> the place. my house also currently needs exterior repainting,
> which will be done after the front entry has been restored
> this summer. it has a very rare type of matchstick molding
> trim & will be spectacular after it's stripped, missing bits
> repaced, decayed bits repaired & the door is rebuilt.
> just because *you* are a lazy old fart that buys new housing,
> doesn't mean everyone should. my house was built in 1815. it
> has some age wear that we are restoring. the garage is a
> fairly new (relative to the house. i think it's from the late
> 1970s), cheap kit thing the previous owner threw up (very
> poorly, i may add. one should overlap siding vertically, not
> butt it!)
> at the moment, i'm trying to decide if i should keep the
> garage, or tear it down & rebuild the barn in that area. the
> original barn burned in the 1930s, but the bank stone walls
> are still in good shape behind the ugly garage. a bank barn
> would really be more useful to me than the garage will ever
> be.
> thanks for your opinion on something you don't understand
> lee

1815? I'd love to see more pictures of your house! Inside AND outside!

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in
:

> 1815? I'd love to see more pictures of your house! Inside
> AND outside!

all i have online is a not-so-great shot of the front & a
list of the rooms, but no interior shots.
http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/house/details.html

when it says "immaculate condition", what it meant was lots of
'surprises' were hiding under fresh paint
still, the house is solid & 99% of the 'problems' are merely
cosmetic. i'm one of those people that needs to restore rather
than replace with modern though. to me, restoring the front
entry door & it's molding (which will solve the house's
current biggest draft problem) is more important than having a
pretty garage.
oh, it is currently pretty cluttered inside. i have an extra
person living in my parlor at least only one now... it was
worse with two. hopefully, he & all his junk will be gone
before summer though. it'll be nice not to have 2 houses worth
of "things" stuffed in here (then i'll take some interior
shots).
lee

enigma wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in
> :
>
>> 1815? I'd love to see more pictures of your house! Inside
>> AND outside!
>
> all i have online is a not-so-great shot of the front & a
> list of the rooms, but no interior shots.
> http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/house/details.html
>
> when it says "immaculate condition", what it meant was lots of
> 'surprises' were hiding under fresh paint
> still, the house is solid & 99% of the 'problems' are merely
> cosmetic. i'm one of those people that needs to restore rather
> than replace with modern though. to me, restoring the front
> entry door & it's molding (which will solve the house's
> current biggest draft problem) is more important than having a
> pretty garage.
> oh, it is currently pretty cluttered inside. i have an extra
> person living in my parlor at least only one now... it was
> worse with two. hopefully, he & all his junk will be gone
> before summer though. it'll be nice not to have 2 houses worth
> of "things" stuffed in here (then i'll take some interior
> shots).
> lee

Wow, that house is absolutely gorgeous! I'm so envious!

kili

"enigma" > wrote in message
. ..
> Sheldon > wrote in
> oups.com:
>
>> enigma wrote:
>>> it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
>>> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
>>> here's a
>>> photo:http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_NOTES/Home_Brewer
>>> y/copper- pot-1.jpg
>>> or:http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>>>
>>> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous.
>>> anyone have any clue what it's original use might have
>>> been? lee
>>
>> Just an old pot ready for service as a planter... I'd
>> remove all the old rivets and put in all new... soldering
>> will only **** it up, which would probably go unnoticed by
>> you... just look at how you live... aren't you embarrassed
>> to show us your decrepit garage door... that rotten
>> driveway, etc... one can only imagine your friggin'
>> kitchen.... jeeze but you are some kinda tobacco road
>> trash.
>
> no, Sheldon, i'm NOT embarrassed by the way i live. yes, the
> garage needs residing & new doors. it was a mess when i bought
> the place. my house also currently needs exterior repainting,
> which will be done after the front entry has been restored
> this summer. it has a very rare type of matchstick molding
> trim & will be spectacular after it's stripped, missing bits
> repaced, decayed bits repaired & the door is rebuilt.
> just because *you* are a lazy old fart that buys new housing,
> doesn't mean everyone should. my house was built in 1815. it
> has some age wear that we are restoring. the garage is a
> fairly new (relative to the house. i think it's from the late
> 1970s), cheap kit thing the previous owner threw up (very
> poorly, i may add. one should overlap siding vertically, not
> butt it!)
> at the moment, i'm trying to decide if i should keep the
> garage, or tear it down & rebuild the barn in that area. the
> original barn burned in the 1930s, but the bank stone walls
> are still in good shape behind the ugly garage. a bank barn
> would really be more useful to me than the garage will ever
> be.
> thanks for your opinion on something you don't understand
> lee

Oooops! Sheldon messes up again Three times in as many days.

On May 17, 9:45�am, enigma > wrote:
> Sheldon > wrote groups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > enigma wrote:
> >> it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
> >> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
> >> here's a
> >> photo:http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_NOTES/Home_Brewer
> >> y/copper- pot-1.jpg *
> >> or:http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>
> >> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous.
> >> anyone have any clue what it's original use might have
> >> been? lee
>
> > Just an old pot ready for service as a planter... I'd
> > remove all the old rivets and put in all new... soldering
> > will only **** it up, which would probably go unnoticed by
> > you... just look at how you live... aren't you embarrassed
> > to show us your decrepit garage door... that rotten
> > driveway, etc... one can only imagine your friggin'
> > kitchen.... jeeze but you are some kinda tobacco road
> > trash.
>
> no, Sheldon, i'm NOT embarrassed by the way i live. yes, the
> garage needs residing & new doors. it was a mess when i bought
> the place. my house also currently needs exterior repainting,
> which will be done after the front entry has been restored
> this summer. it has a very rare type of matchstick molding
> trim & will be spectacular after it's stripped, missing bits
> repaced, decayed bits repaired & the door is rebuilt.
> *just because *you* are a lazy old fart that buys new housing,
> doesn't mean everyone should. my house was built in 1815. it
> has some age wear that we are restoring. the garage is a
> fairly new (relative to the house. i think it's from the late
> 1970s), cheap kit thing the previous owner threw up (very
> poorly, i may add. one should overlap siding vertically, not
> butt it!)
> *at the moment, i'm trying to decide if i should keep the
> garage, or tear it down & rebuild the barn in that area. the
> original barn burned in the 1930s, but the bank stone walls
> are still in good shape behind the ugly garage. a bank barn
> would really be more useful to me than the garage will ever
> be.
> *thanks for your opinion on something you don't understand

Full of dumb meaningless alibies, same ones every lazy filthy pig
uses. I understand alright, you're a liar... that's a rental house,
you got evicted from the previous ones.

Sheldon > wrote in
oups.com:

> Full of dumb meaningless alibies, same ones every lazy
> filthy pig uses. I understand alright, you're a liar...
> that's a rental house, you got evicted from the previous
> ones.

bzzzzzzt! you lose again. i have never been evicted from
anywhere. i am the sole owner of this lovely 1815 transitional
Federal on 62 acres.
thanks for playing. do try again
lee

On May 16, 4:08 pm, enigma > wrote:
> for brewing. it has a leak at one of the long handle rivets,
> which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
> here's a photo:http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...rewery/copper-
> pot-1.jpg
> or:http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>
> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous. anyone
> have any clue what it's original use might have been?
> lee

Cooking? It is a nice copper pot for restaurant/hotel/institutional
use. Looks like a good size for something like gravy or in smaller
places perhaps, soup potatoes or vegetables.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

jay > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC), enigma wrote:
>
>> for brewing. it has a leak at one of the long handle
>> rivets, which i'm going to solder when it stops raining.
>> here's a photo:
>> http://www.tarogue.net/~tom/BREWING_...e_Brewery/copp
>> er- pot-1.jpg
>> or: http://tinyurl.com/29cbqx
>>
>> as you can see by the milk crate, this thing is enormous.
>> anyone have any clue what it's original use might have
>> been?
>
> It looks to be tin lined and it is most likely in need of
> re tinning. Maybe you should sell it for the copper (scrap
> price is over 3$/lb) and buy a stainless or aluminum one
> with the proceeds. It is cool looking, and it would make a
> nice planter. Are you making home brew? I have made many
> batches but have given it up for the still. <g>

it doesn't need retinning yet... it holds about 9.5 gallons,
so it's not really big enough to do a double batch. we already
have 2 aluminum & one SS brew pots, all for 5 gallon batches.
i do some of the messing around with beermaking, but i'm
building a still this summer. got any tips?
lee

enigma wrote on Wed, 16 May 2007 21:21:37 +0000 (UTC):

??>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC), enigma wrote:
??>> i do some of the messing around with beermaking, but i'm
??>>building a still this summer. got any tips?lee
??>>it would make a
??>> nice planter. Are you making home brew? I have made many
??>> batches but have given it up for the still. <g>

I can't tell and I won't ask where you are posting from but are
stills legal where you live? :-)
It reminds me of the Irish story that when the bounty on illegal
stills was very high and no questions were asked, poteen makers
would just turn in their stills when new ones were needed.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote:
> I can't tell and I won't ask where you are posting from but are stills legal
> where you live? :-)
> It reminds me of the Irish story that when the bounty on illegal stills was
> very high and no questions were asked, poteen makers would just turn in their
> stills when new ones were needed.

I can't be sure where he lives, but I think this applies:

http://www.atf.gov/alcohol/info/faq/genalcohol.htm

Not that it stops anyone! ;-) I guess it is a little more serious than tearing
the tags off of mattresses though.

Here's a product I find interesting:

http://www.ruffoniusa.com/products/item.cfm?ID=186

I like the slyly worded description:

"A fully functional copper Distillator. All copper with brass plate, this
beautiful old-world creation is hand made (except for the fuel holder). This
Distillator is sold as a decorative piece. No instructions for use will be
included. 13.5 Tall x 17" Wide. Closed container is approximately 1 liter."

And it's not the only product sold with cute descriptions. Ever bought "video
head cleaner"? ;-)

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

On May 17, 4:49?pm, "wff_ng_7" > wrote:
>
>
> Here's a product I find interesting:
>
> http://www.ruffoniusa.com/products/item.cfm?ID=186
>
> I like the slyly worded description:
>
> "A fully functional copper Distillator. All copper with brass plate, this
> beautiful old-world creation is hand made (except for the fuel holder). This
> Distillator is sold as a decorative piece. No instructions for use will be
> included. 13.5 Tall x 17" Wide. Closed container is approximately 1 liter."

Maybe like 6-7 years back "Professional Cutlery Direct" <http://
www.cutlery.com> was selling that same piece... they wanted even more,
like over $1,000. I doubt they sold many.

Sheldon

"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in
:

> enigma wrote on Wed, 16 May 2007 21:21:37 +0000 (UTC):
>
> ??>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> wrote:
> ??>> i do some of the messing around with beermaking, but
> i'm ??>>building a still this summer. got any tips?lee
> ??>>it would make a
> ??>> nice planter. Are you making home brew? I have made
> many ??>> batches but have given it up for the still. <g>
>
> I can't tell and I won't ask where you are posting from but
> are stills legal where you live? :-)

depends on what you're distilling. i can legally distill
ethanol here for farm use.
i also want to distill herbs for use in goat's milk soap
(roses in particular, but also rosemary, lavendar & sage)

> It reminds me of the Irish story that when the bounty on
> illegal stills was very high and no questions were asked,
> poteen makers would just turn in their stills when new
> ones were needed.

heh.
lee

On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:32:22 -0400, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote:

> enigma wrote on Wed, 16 May 2007 21:21:37 +0000 (UTC):
>
> ??>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC), enigma wrote:
>??>> i do some of the messing around with beermaking, but i'm
>??>>building a still this summer. got any tips?lee
>??>>it would make a
> ??>> nice planter. Are you making home brew? I have made many
> ??>> batches but have given it up for the still. <g>
>
>I can't tell and I won't ask where you are posting from but are
>stills legal where you live? :-)
>It reminds me of the Irish story that when the bounty on illegal
>stills was very high and no questions were asked, poteen makers
>would just turn in their stills when new ones were needed.
>
>James Silverton
>Potomac, Maryland

too funny.

your pal,
blake