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My son has gotten into beef jerky. Now I refuse to buy the chemical crap
they sell for jerky and the 'real' stuff is really expensive. As a hiker, backpacker, and occasional cook I could really use jerky, dried stuff of all kinds, and other things one can make in a dehydrator. Unfortunately tying up the oven for 6-8 is not in the cards, so I really need a standalone dehydrator. Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... (No flame wars - I am one of the above... :-) ) I would appreciate any advice. --Yan |
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Captain Dondo wrote:
> > Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a > dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells > some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to > men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... I haven't bought one yet, but I've been considering an Excalibur dehydrator. http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/4...gular-prod.htm Although they make larger ones, I'm thinking about the smallest one. For a while, I was using a cheap convection oven as a dehydrator, but that doesn't work very well because it cycles back and forth between full power and no power (except the fan). I think the best results would be from a machine with low power, so it would cycle less frequently. That's why I favor the lowest power machine in the product line. |
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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message ... > Captain Dondo wrote: >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a >> dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's >> sells >> some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to >> men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... > > I haven't bought one yet, but I've been considering > an Excalibur dehydrator. > > http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/4...gular-prod.htm > > Although they make larger ones, I'm thinking about > the smallest one. For a while, I was using a cheap > convection oven as a dehydrator, but that doesn't > work very well because it cycles back and forth > between full power and no power (except the fan). > I think the best results would be from a machine > with low power, so it would cycle less frequently. > That's why I favor the lowest power machine in the > product line. I've had my Excalibur for several years, love it. Even drying throughout the trays. I have the 9 drawer model and that really is a lot of a family of 2, but can dry about 8# of meat at once. It's not really easy to clean, none of them are. I bought a 16" square plastic drawer from a home store (the rack it was in was broke, and they gave me a discount) as a place to soak the trays clean. Works good. Also may want to *lightly* spray or rub the racks with canola oil to help clean later. Also, put a sheet of parchment paper on the bottom to catch the drips. And catch us over at rec.food.preserving, our FAQ has some idears about dehydrating as well: http://www.jaclu.com/rfpFAQ/rfpFAQ.htm Edrena |
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Mark Thorson wrote:
> Captain Dondo wrote: >> Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a >> dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. >> Cabella's sells some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as >> they cater to men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... > > I haven't bought one yet, but I've been considering an Excalibur > dehydrator. > > http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/4...gular-prod.htm > > > Although they make larger ones, I'm thinking about the smallest one. > For a while, I was using a cheap convection oven as a dehydrator, but > that doesn't work very well because it cycles back and forth between > full power and no power (except the fan). I think the best results > would be from a machine with low power, so it would cycle less > frequently. That's why I favor the lowest power machine in the > product line. My brother has an Excalibur; he loves it. I've used it before and it does a great job. I have a Nesco model FD-50, A.K.A. American Harvest Snackmaster Pro, and I've added 4 extra trays to it in addition to the 4 trays that came with it. It has variable heat and has a fan; it works just as good as the Excalibur except that you have to rotate the trays once or twice when drying a large batch of anything. I've also made jerky in a smoker, but I'm basically lazy and that was too much like work. That jerky was fantastic, though. Most jerky recipes are overly complicated. I just use beef, salt, black pepper, and brown sugar. I usually dry 3 pounds of trimmed beef strips at a time, and IIRC that makes about a pound of jerky. I always make a bunch around Christmas time for the inlaws to fight over. Best regards, Bob |
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"Captain Dondo" > wrote in message ... > My son has gotten into beef jerky. Now I refuse to buy the chemical crap > they sell for jerky and the 'real' stuff is really expensive. > > As a hiker, backpacker, and occasional cook I could really use jerky, > dried stuff of all kinds, and other things one can make in a dehydrator. > > Unfortunately tying up the oven for 6-8 is not in the cards, so I really > need a standalone dehydrator. > > Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a > dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells > some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to > men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... > > (No flame wars - I am one of the above... :-) ) > > I would appreciate any advice. > > --Yan Beef Jerky a la Alton Brown: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._31151,00.html |
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I love my Excaliber. I have the 9 tray but they do make smaller ones.
It works really well and you don't have to rotate the trays. Lately we've been drying pineapple and eating it about as fast as it's done. I bought mine through Allied Kenco - very nice people, great service too. I also bought their drying book and it has a lot of good information in it - one of these days I'll try making yogurt in it. http://www.alliedkenco.com I've seen a few books on making dried meals for backpacking. Might be worth a look at the library to see if any of them appeal. marcella In article >, Captain Dondo > wrote: > My son has gotten into beef jerky. Now I refuse to buy the chemical crap > they sell for jerky and the 'real' stuff is really expensive. > > As a hiker, backpacker, and occasional cook I could really use jerky, > dried stuff of all kinds, and other things one can make in a dehydrator. > > Unfortunately tying up the oven for 6-8 is not in the cards, so I really > need a standalone dehydrator. > > Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a > dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells > some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to > men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... > > (No flame wars - I am one of the above... :-) ) > > I would appreciate any advice. > > --Yan |
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Captain Dondo wrote:
> > My son has gotten into beef jerky. Now I refuse to buy the chemical crap > they sell for jerky and the 'real' stuff is really expensive. > > As a hiker, backpacker, and occasional cook I could really use jerky, > dried stuff of all kinds, and other things one can make in a dehydrator. > > Unfortunately tying up the oven for 6-8 is not in the cards, so I really > need a standalone dehydrator. > > Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a > dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells > some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to > men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... > > (No flame wars - I am one of the above... :-) ) > > I would appreciate any advice. > > --Yan Some time ago, I watched an episode of Alton Brown's show, "Good Eats," that was about beef jerky. I rather like(d) his idea for a "food dehydrator" to make beef jerky, and I will give it a try sometime soon. Sure seems it would beat using the racks in my oven <g>, which I've done many times to make jerky. Basically, the AB dehydrator for beef jerky uses three parts -- a large box fan, bungee cords (not to be confused with musical chords <g>), and disposable (paper) air conditioning/furnace filters! Reference http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._31151,00.html or http://tinyurl.com/8zt7j for further information and instructions, not necessarily for the recipe. When I make beef jerky, I use an inexpensive cut of meat (usually on sale) and have the store butcher slice it very thinly for me. The sliced meat gets marinated in a solution that's basically one (1) part soy sauce and one (1) part water. I also add a few splashes of hickory "Liquid Smoke" -- be careful not to over do it with the Liquid Smoke. The meat marinates for 24- to 48-hours in the refrigerator. Drain and discard the marinade, and dry the individual slices of meat between sheets of paper towels. I've always hung the slices of meat over the rack-rungs in my oven and "baby-sat" the jerky when the oven was turned on briefly, many times during the oven-drying process. But next time, I will try AB's "fancy" dehydrator instead - won't have to "babysit" the oven Sky, who makes a note to buy disposable air filters to make beef jerky! |
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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 14 May 2007 02:44:54 GMT, Paco's Tacos wrote: > >> Beef Jerky a la Alton Brown: >> >> http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._31151,00.html > > Most every recipe I see uses way too much marinade. For 2-2.5 > lbs of meat, I use about a 1/2 cup of marinade. This allows you > to control the seasoning and saltiness of the jerky. You'll find > that the beef actually soaks up the marinade in under 2 hours. > And that's all it needs. > > Not too much, and not too little. It comes out just right. > > These recipes that drown the meat in salty liquid for "4-24 > hours" are a complete joke. > > -sw Huh? The recipe says, quote, "Place the bag into the refrigerator for 3 to 6 hours." Nothing about "4-24 hours". But, I know what you are saying. In your experience, around 2 hours works well; in Alton Brown's it's 3 to 6 hours. Depends on individual taste, cut & quality of meat, quality of marinade ingredients, etc. Start low and work from there, right? I agree that over-marinating can over-power the taste of the meat being marinated, whether salty or acidic, as well as ruin the texture of the meat. Now that that blah is out of the way, I just referenced that recipe for the method, not the recipe itself, as the OP was looking for advice on dehydrators. |
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Skyhooks wrote:
> Captain Dondo wrote: >> My son has gotten into beef jerky. Now I refuse to buy the chemical crap >> they sell for jerky and the 'real' stuff is really expensive. >> >> As a hiker, backpacker, and occasional cook I could really use jerky, >> dried stuff of all kinds, and other things one can make in a dehydrator. >> >> Unfortunately tying up the oven for 6-8 is not in the cards, so I really >> need a standalone dehydrator. >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a >> dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells >> some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to >> men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... >> >> (No flame wars - I am one of the above... :-) ) >> >> I would appreciate any advice. >> >> --Yan > > Some time ago, I watched an episode of Alton Brown's show, "Good Eats," > that was about beef jerky. I rather like(d) his idea for a "food > dehydrator" to make beef jerky, and I will give it a try sometime soon. > Sure seems it would beat using the racks in my oven <g>, which I've done > many times to make jerky. > > Basically, the AB dehydrator for beef jerky uses three parts -- a large > box fan, bungee cords (not to be confused with musical chords <g>), and > disposable (paper) air conditioning/furnace filters! Reference > > > http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._31151,00.html > or > http://tinyurl.com/8zt7j > > for further information and instructions, not necessarily for the > recipe. > > When I make beef jerky, I use an inexpensive cut of meat (usually on > sale) and have the store butcher slice it very thinly for me. The > sliced meat gets marinated in a solution that's basically one (1) part > soy sauce and one (1) part water. I also add a few splashes of hickory > "Liquid Smoke" -- be careful not to over do it with the Liquid Smoke. > The meat marinates for 24- to 48-hours in the refrigerator. Drain and > discard the marinade, and dry the individual slices of meat between > sheets of paper towels. I've always hung the slices of meat over the > rack-rungs in my oven and "baby-sat" the jerky when the oven was turned > on briefly, many times during the oven-drying process. But next time, I > will try AB's "fancy" dehydrator instead - won't have to "babysit" the > oven > > Sky, who makes a note to buy disposable air filters to make beef jerky! That method wouldn't heat-sterilize, much less cook the meat. Maybe I'm just picky, but dried raw marinated meat doesn't sound appealing. |
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> Maybe I'm just picky, but dried raw marinated meat doesn't sound > appealing. That's what jerky is supposed to be. If you cook it, you lose too much of the flavor from the juices that drip out. (if that gives you the heebee-jeebees, turn the temperature up and cook the jerky once it's almost dry.) Bob |
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zxcvbob > wrote: > none wrote: > > > Maybe I'm just picky, but dried raw marinated meat doesn't sound > > appealing. > > > That's what jerky is supposed to be. If you cook it, you lose too much > of the flavor from the juices that drip out. (if that gives you the > heebee-jeebees, turn the temperature up and cook the jerky once it's > almost dry.) > > Bob Dried marinated raw meat is divine... ;-) The marination and drying "cure" it. It's no different from cured smoked ham if you really think about it! -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Omelet > wrote in
news > In article >, > zxcvbob > wrote: > >> none wrote: >> >> > Maybe I'm just picky, but dried raw marinated meat doesn't sound >> > appealing. >> >> >> That's what jerky is supposed to be. If you cook it, you lose too >> much of the flavor from the juices that drip out. (if that gives you >> the heebee-jeebees, turn the temperature up and cook the jerky once >> it's almost dry.) >> > > Dried marinated raw meat is divine... ;-) > > The marination and drying "cure" it. > > It's no different from cured smoked ham if you really think about it! Nothing wrong with raw meat! I've always done mine in the oven too. Slice flank steak thinly on the diagonal; marinate to taste (I do something different every time), then cover baking trays with cake racks and spread out the strips; turn the oven on as low as it will go and prop the door open with a wooden spoon. Turn the strips once every couple of hours until it looks right, about 6-8 hours. Store in something dog/cat/ant-proof! That Excalibur dehydrator looks neat, but I have a tiny kitchen with minimal storage space and zero room for extra gadgets that don't get used all the time. Mark. |
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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message ... > http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/4...gular-prod.htm > > Although they make larger ones, I'm thinking about > the smallest one. For a while, I was using a cheap > convection oven as a dehydrator, but that doesn't > work very well because it cycles back and forth > between full power and no power (except the fan). > I think the best results would be from a machine > with low power, so it would cycle less frequently. > That's why I favor the lowest power machine in the > product line. I have had one for several years and cannot recommend it highly enough Ophelia Scotland |
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"Captain Dondo" > wrote in message ... > My son has gotten into beef jerky. Now I refuse to buy the chemical crap > they sell for jerky and the 'real' stuff is really expensive. > > As a hiker, backpacker, and occasional cook I could really use jerky, > dried stuff of all kinds, and other things one can make in a dehydrator. > > Unfortunately tying up the oven for 6-8 is not in the cards, so I really > need a standalone dehydrator. > > Does anyone have any recommendations, what to look for, etc. for a > dehydrator suitable for Jerky? Ronco ain't gonna cut it. Cabella's sells > some nice ones from looking at the catalog, but as they cater to > men I am a bit skeptical of their claims.... > > (No flame wars - I am one of the above... :-) ) > > I would appreciate any advice. > > --Yan The excalibur dehydrators are by far the best. The air circulates from the rear of the unit, unlike the Ronco and other versions that pump air up from the bottom, causing some meat on the bottom to get crispy and the meat on the top to still be raw. The excalibur units also have a timer-the unit will shut off by itself-along with a temperature guage. I have the 9 tray. They come with Teflex sheets and Poly Screen trays. When they wear out, you can just use parchment paper. Buy a cheap roast-bottom round, top round, whatever is on sale. Have the butcher slice it up thin, soak it in a marinade such as listed below-about 24-48 hours-any longer the meat will break down to mush.. Spread it out on trays and dry at 145 degrees about 4-4 1/2 hours. Instant jerky. * Exported from MasterCook * Marinade: Teriyaki Recipe By : Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Sauces & Dressings Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1/4 cup dark soy sauce 1/4 cup saki 2 tblsp Mirin 1 tblsp white sugar Combine all over medium heat till sugar is disolved. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bottled teriyaki works well too. If using a BBQ marinade, add some liquid smoke. P.S. Excalibur sells a book for dehydrating almost anything, from fish to game to fruits and veggies. DO NOT dry garlic-health issues abound. Onion is okay though. |
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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 14 May 2007 03:52:03 GMT, Paco's Tacos wrote: > >> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Mon, 14 May 2007 02:44:54 GMT, Paco's Tacos wrote: >>> >>>> Beef Jerky a la Alton Brown: >>>> >>>> http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._31151,00.html >>> >>> Most every recipe I see uses way too much marinade. For 2-2.5 >>> lbs of meat, I use about a 1/2 cup of marinade. This allows you >>> to control the seasoning and saltiness of the jerky. You'll find >>> that the beef actually soaks up the marinade in under 2 hours. >>> And that's all it needs. >>> >>> Not too much, and not too little. It comes out just right. >>> >>> These recipes that drown the meat in salty liquid for "4-24 >>> hours" are a complete joke. >>> >>> -sw >> >> Huh? The recipe says, quote, "Place the bag into the refrigerator for 3 >> to >> 6 hours." Nothing about "4-24 hours". But, I know what you are saying. > > Do you... really? > > Duh. > >> I just referenced that recipe for the method, >> not the recipe itself, as the OP was looking for advice on dehydrators. > > It's not your recipe to be defensive about; Don't take it > personally. It's called Usenet. > > -sw You condescending snotrag. "Don't take it personally. It's called Usenet." |
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