Just a quick question to throw out there...

Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.

I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.

Any suggestions?
Thanks...

Rich wrote:

> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.

Have you checked out Gourmet? Or Bon Appetit?

"Goomba38" > wrote
> Rich wrote:

>>
>> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
>> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
>> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
>> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
>> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Have you checked out Gourmet? Or Bon Appetit?

How about Cook's Illustrated? All cooking and no ads at all.

nancy

Rich wrote on 22 Feb 2007 in rec.food.cooking

> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks...
>
>

I believe Playboy has some recipes or at least it used to last time I read
it (25 yrs ago) it gave great sufflee <sp??> advice.

In article .com>,
says...
> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks...
>
>
You might want to look into mags that don't have any ads or "health
tips". Cooks Illustrated and Cuisine at Home come to mind. Also, Fine
Cooking has plenty of ads, but they seem to be mostly cooking/eating-
centric vs. gender-centric.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what would actually pertain to "cooking as a
male, etc.", as you put it.

If you've spent much time as a male, advice like "... and make sure your
fly is zipped/buttoned before carving and serving the roast ...", or
"... try to remember not to pick your nose or scratch your nether
regions in view of your guests while cooking ...", is probably not too
helpful.

Or perhaps it is (?).

Bob

"Rich" > wrote
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.

I have been a Southern Living reader for years. I certainly didn't find it
male oriented but it wasn't like Woman's Weekly either.

Unfortunately, they haven't been my favorite lately. In the past year,
there have been at least two months where it seems like the food editors
just "mailed it in". The recipes were old standbys or something off a
Campbell's Soup can.

I have Bon Appetit coming so I am glad someone suggested them
--
Chris
http://inanethoughtsandinsaneramblings.blogspot.com

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> Rich wrote:
>
>> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at
>> a mostly
>> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking
>> mags -
>> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are
>> good, I am
>> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for
>> women.
>>
>> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more
>> "stuff" that
>> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in
>> the
>> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their
>> so-called
>> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in
>> the
>> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Have you checked out Gourmet? Or Bon Appetit?

IMHO, Gourmet is not bad and I would not ascribe any gender
preference to it. There has been a move away from articles by
people with names like Lili Double-Barrel who used to drop in
phrases like "as my friend the ArchDuchess used to say." Sunset
Magazine is also sometimes a good recipe source and not sexist
but I gave up on Cooking Light long ago!


--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

On Feb 22, 6:10 pm, yetanotherBob > wrote:
> In article .com>,
> says...
>
> > Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> > Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> > male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> > latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> > getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> > I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> > pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> > typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> > cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> > culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> > Any suggestions?
> > Thanks...
>
> You might want to look into mags that don't have any ads or "health
> tips". Cooks Illustrated and Cuisine at Home come to mind. Also, Fine
> Cooking has plenty of ads, but they seem to be mostly cooking/eating-
> centric vs. gender-centric.
>
> Beyond that, I'm not sure what would actually pertain to "cooking as a
> male, etc.", as you put it.
>
> If you've spent much time as a male, advice like "... and make sure your
> fly is zipped/buttoned before carving and serving the roast ...", or
> "... try to remember not to pick your nose or scratch your nether
> regions in view of your guests while cooking ...", is probably not too
> helpful.
>
> Or perhaps it is (?).
>
> Bob

lol...thanks for the reply...actually you hit the nail on the head
with the cooking/eating-centric...that's what I am looking for. Like
I said, it's just frustrating when you look through a magazine that
has good recipes in it, but it's followed by 20 pages of beauty tips,
female meds, etc. I wouldn't even mind it so much if publishers would
make a magazine that's 50/50 with respect to demographic. But - hey,
what do I know, right?

Thanks again for the suggestions.

On 22 Feb 2007 14:28:13 -0800, "Rich" >
wrote:

>Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
>male audience?

The most prominent SERIOUS cooking magazine is Fine Cooking

http://www.taunton.com/finecooking/index.asp


I don't believe they are interested in a gender subscription...just
FINE COOKING!

On Feb 22, 4:28 pm, "Rich" > wrote:

> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience?

FWIW, and maybe not much, I've pared my subscriptions to Cuisine at
Home and Saveur. I learn something useful from both every month, and
that's more than I can say from most of all the others I've subscribed
to over the years.

David

In article . com>,
says...
> Like
> I said, it's just frustrating when you look through a magazine that
> has good recipes in it, but it's followed by 20 pages of beauty tips,
> female meds, etc. I wouldn't even mind it so much if publishers would
> make a magazine that's 50/50 with respect to demographic. But - hey,
> what do I know, right?
>
>
I feel your pain. ;-)

It *IS* irritating to pick up a magazine called "Health", and find that
it's really about (Women's) Health or maybe even (Womyn's) Health.

It's a bit more frustrating to subscribe to what seems like a great
magazine called "Health", and then halfway through your subscription,
have it morph into a (not your) gender-centric publication. I can only
speculate as to why this happens, but I'm guessing it usually has to do
with $$$$$$.

Reminds me of the time back in the '80s when the original Cooks
Illustrated magazine changed hands and started carrying ads for the
likes of Wesson Oil and Crisco and Pop Tarts and Chevy trucks and all
manner of other crappy corporate stuff that had nothing to do with
"cooking".

I wrote a letter to the new publisher to complain, and he responded that
I should just let him get on with publishing the magazine, never mind
the extraneous ads. So much for any subscription renewal plans I had.

I didn't save the letter, but I believe the response was from Mr.
Kimball hisself. He apparently changed his mind somewhere along the
way, and saw the light, returning the mag to its original no-ads, line-
drawing roots...

Bob

On Feb 22, 2:28 pm, "Rich" > wrote:
> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks...


Have you checked out Food & Wine Magazine? Those manly men competing
on Top Chef always said it was their Bible!

Susan B.

"Rich" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks...
>

we have the best cooking mag in aus.... www.abc.net.au/delicious

On 22 Feb 2007 16:53:23 -0800, "sueb" > wrote:

>On Feb 22, 2:28 pm, "Rich" > wrote:
>> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>>
>> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
>> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
>> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
>> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>>
>> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
>> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
>> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
>> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
>> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> Thanks...
>
>
>Have you checked out Food & Wine Magazine? Those manly men competing
>on Top Chef always said it was their Bible!
>
>Susan B.

I have a Food & Wine book with all the recipes for a whole year. One
of my favorites. I drew a blank when I read the original post but I
think you've got a good idea.

Lou

On 22 Feb 2007 16:03:53 -0800, "dtwright37" >
wrote:

>On Feb 22, 4:28 pm, "Rich" > wrote:
>
>> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
>> male audience?
>
>FWIW, and maybe not much, I've pared my subscriptions to Cuisine at
>Home and Saveur. I learn something useful from both every month, and
>that's more than I can say from most of all the others I've subscribed
>to over the years.
>
>David

I'm going to piggy back here.
Saveur might be to your liking, it is gender generic.
It is very informative and most of the ads are food related.

Koko
--
New blog in progress
http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

A Human being on the net

"Rich" > wrote:
>Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
>Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
>male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
>latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
>getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
>I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
>pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
>typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
>cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
>culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
>Any suggestions?
>Thanks...

I subscribed to Taste of Home for a couple of years. There are no ads in it.

http://www.tasteofhome.com/Default.aspx?r_d=y

Randy

http://picasaweb.google.com/crmartin1

http://kittenwar.com/kittens/74045/

Rich wrote:
> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks...
>
>
Fine Cooking is, imho, a superior cooking magazine. Besides great
recipes, it has great tips and interesting general food-related
information. It's not gender-specific and the advertising (of which
there isn't a whole lot, which is nice) is more food-oriented than
anything else.

In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote:

> Reminds me of the time back in the '80s when the original Cooks
> Illustrated magazine changed hands and started carrying ads for the
> likes of Wesson Oil and Crisco and Pop Tarts and Chevy trucks and all
> manner of other crappy corporate stuff that had nothing to do with
> "cooking".

Well that is a shock. I thought the magazine started in the 90's. My
Jan, 1995 issue with no ads is dated #12 so Kimball must have redone it
completely. You're certain it's the same publication?

But speaking of the 80's, I've recently been going through and getting
rid of some old Gourmet's and Bon Appetits from the mid-80s. I was
really struck by the difference in both to the current publications.
First of all, there seemed to be far more ads for incredibly beautiful
china, sterling silver, and hugely expensive imported wines. Having
looked at china recently, it seemed there were more choices 20 years ago
than there are now. Leastways that is my impression.

The recipes seemed a lot more pretentious then with many more
extremely-hard-to-get ingredients. I keep a very well stocked pantry
but, in one BA issue, I was hard-pressed to find a single recipe that
did not have at least one unusual ingredient. They were not all that
bad, however.

The recipes also seemed far more meat-centric and were more heavily into
sauces. Vegetables seemed far less "green" and more overcooked then
than now. Neither magazine seemed gender specific either then or now.

Emma

In article >,
says...
>
> Well that is a shock. I thought the magazine started in the 90's. My
> Jan, 1995 issue with no ads is dated #12 so Kimball must have redone it
> completely. You're certain it's the same publication?
>
[snip]

The magazine started out as "Cook's" magazine, back in the late 70's or
early 80's. It hit hard times, and I think Kimball, who was involved
from the start, took it over to try to revive it. Part of his strategy
appeared to be to get more ad revenue from diverse sources. The change
was quite glaring, and imo just made "Cook's" into another "Gourmet"
clone. After getting the "mind your own business" letter from him, I
didn't renew my subscription, and apparently enough other subscribers
lost interest, so the magazine eventually folded.

Kimball relaunched "Cook's" as "Cook's Illustrated" in 1992, and the
rest, as they say is history. Today's Cook's Illustrated is much more
like the original Cook's, so he effectively took the magazine back to
its roots, and the cooking/reading public was obviously more receptive
this go-round.

Bob

In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > Well that is a shock. I thought the magazine started in the 90's. My
> > Jan, 1995 issue with no ads is dated #12 so Kimball must have redone it
> > completely. You're certain it's the same publication?
>
> The magazine started out as "Cook's" magazine, back in the late 70's or
> early 80's. It hit hard times, and I think Kimball, who was involved
> from the start, took it over to try to revive it. Part of his strategy
> appeared to be to get more ad revenue from diverse sources. The change
> was quite glaring, and imo just made "Cook's" into another "Gourmet"
> clone. After getting the "mind your own business" letter from him, I
> didn't renew my subscription, and apparently enough other subscribers
> lost interest, so the magazine eventually folded.
>
> Kimball relaunched "Cook's" as "Cook's Illustrated" in 1992, and the
> rest, as they say is history. Today's Cook's Illustrated is much more
> like the original Cook's, so he effectively took the magazine back to
> its roots, and the cooking/reading public was obviously more receptive
> this go-round.

Fascinating. I had no idea. When I hear him on "The Splendid Table"
(which I get via podcast), I always skip the parts where he is on since
he is so fond of insulting host Lynne Rossetto Kasper. I find that
bit--- make a meal from 5 or 6 strange ingredients found in your
fridge--- to be entirely useless anyway. Kimball's social graces often
leave much to be desired. So I'm not the least bit surprised that you
received a rude response from him. I dropped my subscription long ago.

Emma

Rich wrote:
>
> Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
> Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
> male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
> latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
> getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
> I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
> pertains to cooking as a male, etc. I am not interested in the
> typical repetitive "male" mags like FHM, etc. and their so-called
> cooking tips. I am a serious home cook who takes pleasure in the
> culinary arts...and not a reader of Oil of Olay ads.

If you are a serious cook why not just look through the women's magazines
that have a lot of recipes? I don't subscribe to any or buy them but I see
them in doctor and dentists offices and at my mother's. I get a lot of good
ideas from them. If you ever pass through Ontario, go to a liquor store
and pick up the Food and Wine magazine. It is chock full of good recipes.

Instead of magazines, check out some of the web sites for Food TV and other
cooking shows. If looking for specific types of recipes go to Google and
enter "recipe" and some key words regarding the ingredients. You don't need
to pay for a magazine that is more advertising than articles.

On 22 Feb 2007 14:28:13 -0800, "Rich" >
wrote:

>Just a quick question to throw out there...
>
>Are there any serious cooking magazines that are targetet at a mostly
>male audience? I have been a subscriber to several cooking mags -
>latest was Cooking Light, and even though the recipe's are good, I am
>getting frustrated at looking at ads and health tips for women.
>
>I am no means trying to be sexist, I would just like more "stuff" that
>pertains to cooking as a male, etc.

like what? how to not burn your cock? wear pants. (cooking bacon
while naked is ill-advised for any major sex.)

your pal,
blake

In article >,
"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote:

> IMHO, Gourmet is not bad and I would not ascribe any gender
> preference to it. There has been a move away from articles by
> people with names like Lili Double-Barrel who used to drop in
> phrases like "as my friend the ArchDuchess used to say."

Have they moved away from the letters which went something like "My
husband Harrison III and I had car trouble with the Bentley but
chanced upon a perfectly splendid [five-star] resort just as Alain
Ducasse was throwing together a charming bouillabaisse made of fresh
organic baby San Marzano tomatoes, virgin albino lobsters, and
molted baby oysters. Could you get the recipe? Thanks ever so." I
didn't need articles on "Where to buy Hermes scarves in the
Cotswolds", either.

Gourmet was just too precious for me. But I'd be game for giving it
another try if they've -- um -- normalized it some.

sd

In article >,
sd > wrote:

> Gourmet was just too precious for me. But I'd be game for giving it
> another try if they've -- um -- normalized it some.

You might want to take another look. It's taken some time but I think
Ruth Reichl has been really good for Gourmet. I mentioned some
comparisons in another post in this thread. Their vodcasts are
extremely well done also.