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JoeSpareBedroom 17-01-2007 09:02 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
"jay" > wrote in message
.. .
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:51:18 GMT, BDB wrote:
>
>> I am getting a new electric stove and since I have no ceiling vent I am
>> trying to decide between an expensive jennair with venting through the
>> floor,
>> or a cheaper unit with no vent. Opinions? How important is the vent? I
>> don't cook a whole lot, but I've been getting more into it and I will
>> have to
>> live with this stove for many years.

>
> Venting is mandatory IMO. Venting up or out with a hood/exhaust would be
> choice #1 and then down venting (downdraft) if #1 does not work for you.
>
> jay


Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam out of
your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove & walls onto
the ceiling.



Dave Bugg 17-01-2007 09:12 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "jay" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:51:18 GMT, BDB wrote:
>>
>>> I am getting a new electric stove and since I have no ceiling vent
>>> I am trying to decide between an expensive jennair with venting
>>> through the floor,
>>> or a cheaper unit with no vent. Opinions? How important is the
>>> vent? I don't cook a whole lot, but I've been getting more into it
>>> and I will have to
>>> live with this stove for many years.

>>
>> Venting is mandatory IMO. Venting up or out with a hood/exhaust
>> would be choice #1 and then down venting (downdraft) if #1 does not
>> work for you. jay

>
> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam
> out of your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove
> & walls onto the ceiling.


I may be wrong, but I thought he meant "out" in the sense of venting out
through a wall to the outside. I agree that a recirculating vent is not much
help.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com




JoeSpareBedroom 17-01-2007 10:26 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:11:05 -0600, jay wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:02:47 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam
>>> out of
>>> your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove & walls
>>> onto
>>> the ceiling.

>>
>> Up = out of house through roof.
>>
>> Out = through wall and out of house.
>>
>> .. and using a hood in both applications.

>
> My current hood goes UP through the hood, and OUT the vent in the
> top of the hood.
>
> -sw



Out WHERE? Out the holes into the kitchen, or outdoors, as in "where the
trees are"?



JoeSpareBedroom 17-01-2007 10:52 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:26:00 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:11:05 -0600, jay wrote:
>>>
>>> My current hood goes UP through the hood, and OUT the vent in the
>>> top of the hood.
>>>

>> Out WHERE? Out the holes into the kitchen, or outdoors, as in "where the
>> trees are"?

>
> I'd guess in the *hood*. It's a ductless hood, like I was
> describing.
>
> -sw



If it doesn't vent outdoors, where the trees are, it's just putting the
effluent on your walls and ceiling. If you don't fry a lot, this may not
matter. But, I once watched as a neighbor attempted to paint his kitchen.
Even after doing a fairly good job cleaning the walls, the paint would not
stick. It was like trying to paint waxed paper. His wife was into fried
chicken big time.



tert in seattle 17-01-2007 11:18 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
ost writes:
>On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:11:05 -0600, jay wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:02:47 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam out of
>>> your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove & walls onto
>>> the ceiling.

>>
>> Up = out of house through roof.
>>
>> Out = through wall and out of house.
>>
>> .. and using a hood in both applications.

>
>My current hood goes UP through the hood, and OUT the vent in the
>top of the hood.


sounds like it was installed by MC Escher


George[_1_] 18-01-2007 01:16 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
tert in seattle wrote:
> ost writes:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:11:05 -0600, jay wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:02:47 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam out of
>>>> your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove & walls onto
>>>> the ceiling.
>>> Up = out of house through roof.
>>>
>>> Out = through wall and out of house.
>>>
>>> .. and using a hood in both applications.

>> My current hood goes UP through the hood, and OUT the vent in the
>> top of the hood.

>
> sounds like it was installed by MC Escher
>


Thats also what I pictured...

jmcquown 20-01-2007 11:35 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "jay" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:51:18 GMT, BDB wrote:
>>
>>> I am getting a new electric stove and since I have no ceiling vent
>>> I am trying to decide between an expensive jennair with venting
>>> through the floor,
>>> or a cheaper unit with no vent. Opinions? How important is the
>>> vent? I don't cook a whole lot, but I've been getting more into it
>>> and I will have to
>>> live with this stove for many years.

>>
>> Venting is mandatory IMO. Venting up or out with a hood/exhaust
>> would be choice #1 and then down venting (downdraft) if #1 does not
>> work for you.
>>
>> jay

>
> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam
> out of your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove
> & walls onto the ceiling.


Then why do all the restaurant kitchens I've been in have overhead hooded
vents?

Jill



Peter A 21-01-2007 12:35 AM

New stove, venting important?
 
In article >,
says...
> > Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam
> > out of your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove
> > & walls onto the ceiling.

>
> Then why do all the restaurant kitchens I've been in have overhead hooded
> vents?
>
> Jill
>


Duh, because they DO vent out.

--
Peter Aitken

jmcquown 21-01-2007 12:57 AM

New stove, venting important?
 
Peter A wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting
>>> steam out of your face. All it does is relocate particulates from
>>> the stove & walls onto the ceiling.

>>
>> Then why do all the restaurant kitchens I've been in have overhead
>> hooded vents?
>>
>> Jill
>>

>
> Duh, because they DO vent out.


I KNOW, I was being facetious. I was replying to Joe's claim that they
don't do anything except "get steam out of your face and relocate
particulates from the stove & walls onto the ceiling", which a ridiculous
claim.

Jill



Bob Terwilliger[_1_] 21-01-2007 01:11 AM

New stove, venting important?
 
Jill wrote:

>>>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting
>>>> steam out of your face. All it does is relocate particulates from
>>>> the stove & walls onto the ceiling.
>>>
>>> Then why do all the restaurant kitchens I've been in have overhead
>>> hooded vents?

>>
>> Duh, because they DO vent out.

>
> I KNOW, I was being facetious. I was replying to Joe's claim that they
> don't do anything except "get steam out of your face and relocate
> particulates from the stove & walls onto the ceiling", which a ridiculous
> claim.



So your point is that Joe's claim is ridiculous, and you answered it by
giving a non sequitur? Here's an analogous argument:

Joe: Taking the air cartridges out of air bags renders the air bags useless.

Jill: Then why do all the taxis I've seen have air bags?


I dunno; your point's kung fu is pretty weak...

Bob



Edwin Pawlowski 21-01-2007 04:30 AM

New stove, venting important?
 

"jmcquown" > wrote in message

>>>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting
>>>> steam out of your face.


>> Duh, because they DO vent out.

>
> I KNOW, I was being facetious. I was replying to Joe's claim that they
> don't do anything except "get steam out of your face and relocate
> particulates from the stove & walls onto the ceiling", which a ridiculous
> claim.



Re-read what Joe posted. He said "not" out. Like the range hoods that just
circulate the air through a filter.



JoeSpareBedroom 21-01-2007 08:41 PM

New stove, venting important?
 
"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "jay" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:51:18 GMT, BDB wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am getting a new electric stove and since I have no ceiling vent
>>>> I am trying to decide between an expensive jennair with venting
>>>> through the floor,
>>>> or a cheaper unit with no vent. Opinions? How important is the
>>>> vent? I don't cook a whole lot, but I've been getting more into it
>>>> and I will have to
>>>> live with this stove for many years.
>>>
>>> Venting is mandatory IMO. Venting up or out with a hood/exhaust
>>> would be choice #1 and then down venting (downdraft) if #1 does not
>>> work for you.
>>>
>>> jay

>>
>> Actually, venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam
>> out of your face. All it does is relocate particulates from the stove
>> & walls onto the ceiling.

>
> Then why do all the restaurant kitchens I've been in have overhead hooded
> vents?
>
> Jill
>
>



You forgot the word "and" in my sentence. Here it is again:

"venting up and NOT out is useless, except for getting steam out of your
face."

Restaurant hoods vent to the outside.




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