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James[_1_] 05-12-2006 10:53 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
invention?

They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.


Pete C. 05-12-2006 10:58 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
James wrote:
>
> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
>
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.


It's a DIY stir-fry kinda place, almost certainly a western invention.
Unlikely to have any authenticity anywhere, but certainly tasty.

Got the Genghis Grill version in my area and it's always very good. Hard
to miss when I select every ingredient myself and they just cook it.

Pete C.

Victor Sack[_1_] 05-12-2006 10:59 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
James > wrote:

> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
>
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.


According to a lot of sources, "Mongolian grill", AKA "Mongolian
barbecue" is a fairly recent Chinese invention. See, for example, an
very interesting Chinese food history Web page at

<http://www.krazykioti.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemi d=45>.

Scroll to the very end and you will find the following:

"Sometimes, a particular chef's or family's creation takes off
spectacularly, because it fits perfectly with new needs and wants; the
rise of mapo doufu and "Mongolian barbecue" could be mentioned. (Mapo
doufu, the perfect expression of Sichuanese taste, appears to have been
invented in the 19th or early 20th century, probably by a family named
Chen. "Mongolian barbecue" was invented in north China by a Chinese
chef in the 20th century; it is vaguely Mongolian by inspiration, but
was a truly new creation.)

Victor

Sheldon 05-12-2006 10:59 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

James wrote:
> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
>
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.


It's a type of restaurant where you get to pick the ingredients for
your dish, typically stir frys... I guess so you can't bitch about the
food.

Sheldon


yetanotherBob 05-12-2006 11:35 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
I think it's an Asian import, or perhaps first brought into the U.S. by
some enterprising American who'd been over that way. But it started in
Asia, and obviously has expanded and morphed as a genre over time.

Is it "authentic"? I don't know. Find some Mongolian folks and ask
them. You may get a straight answer, or they may snicker and ask you,
"What the hell is a 'Pizza Parlor'?"

Bob
(Thanking you for the opportunity to use the words "morphed" and
"genre" in a single "sentence".)
==============================================
In article om>,
says...
> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
>
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.
>


[email protected] 06-12-2006 03:14 AM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

James wrote:
> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
>
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.


It's a disgusting place where they have a bunch of sub-par meats,
veggies, and sauces lined up buffet-style. One goes through the line
and picks out what looks the least gut-wrenching, fills up a bowl,
hands it over to one of the surly youths working the "grill", and sits
down to wince with dismay upon sampling the first bite. All for $9.99!
Yeehaw!


[email protected] 06-12-2006 03:17 AM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

wrote:
> James wrote:
> > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > invention?
> >
> > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.

>
> It's a disgusting place where they have a bunch of sub-par meats,
> veggies, and sauces lined up buffet-style. One goes through the line
> and picks out what looks the least gut-wrenching, fills up a bowl,
> hands it over to one of the surly youths working the "grill", and sits
> down to wince with dismay upon sampling the first bite. All for $9.99!
> Yeehaw!


Oops, forgot to include a URL for your consideration:

http://www.huhot.com/

Rots of ruck!


J.Venning[_1_] 06-12-2006 08:07 AM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
"James" > wrote in message ps.com...
> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.
>

I have never encountered a "Mongolian Grill" during all the times I visited China, but I have encountered them in the West - both as "Mongolian Grill" and "Mongolian Barbecue" - and I can't say that I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good meal. These are merely a take-off from the "Mongolian Hot Pot", except that customers line up to have their choices of various meats and vegetables stir-fried on hot plates by the cooks. The sauces provided were very banal as well, so all-in-all, not recommendable. For those of you who may have missed the video clip I posted on sushi, you have to see it by clicking on: http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2v1263c .
J.

[email protected] 06-12-2006 01:59 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
J.Venning wrote:
> "James" > wrote in message ps.com...
> > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > invention?
> > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.
> >

> I have never encountered a "Mongolian Grill" during all the times I visited China, but I have encountered them in the West - both as "Mongolian Grill" and "Mongolian Barbecue" - and I can't say that I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good meal. These are merely a take-off from the "Mongolian Hot Pot", except that customers line up to have their choices of various meats and vegetables stir-fried on hot plates by the cooks. The sauces provided were very banal as well, so all-in-all, not recommendable. For those of you who may have missed the video clip I posted on sushi, you have to see it by clicking on: http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2v1263c .
> J.


A Manchurian (from Beijing) friend of mine introduced me to a version
of a "hot pot" where various meats and vegetables are cooked in a
boiling pot of water. She said told me that boiling water not stir
frying was the traditional/authentic northern chinese method for
making a "hot pot." I know that cantonese version of "hot pot" using
boiling water/broth, too. My friend assured me that the "Mongolian
Grill" was not traditional Mongolian fare but a modern asian-fusion
restaurant concoction ( e.g. General Tso Chicken and the fortune
cookie). A while back agos, I did a internet search on the topic and
a website I found made by female mongolian also asserted that today's
"Mongolian Grill" setup is a modern restaurant innovation/model. This
restaurant model is fairly success in the USA and has spawned a
franchised "Mongolian Grill" restaurants called *BD's Mongolian Grill*
in the USA (see http://www.gomongo.com/ )


yetanotherBob 06-12-2006 02:49 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
In article . com>,
says...
>
> James wrote:
> > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > invention?
> >
> > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.

>
> It's a disgusting place where they have a bunch of sub-par meats,
> veggies, and sauces lined up buffet-style. One goes through the line
> and picks out what looks the least gut-wrenching, fills up a bowl,
> hands it over to one of the surly youths working the "grill", and sits
> down to wince with dismay upon sampling the first bite. All for $9.99!
> Yeehaw!
>
>

Plus, once you leave the place, you get the added pleasure of walking
around smelling like frying onions, at least until you can shower and
change your clothes.

Bob

ltlee1 06-12-2006 02:57 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

J.Venning wrote:
> "James" > wrote in message ps.com...
> > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > invention?
> > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.
> >

> I have never encountered a "Mongolian Grill" during all the times I visited China, but I have encountered them in the West - both as "Mongolian Grill" and "Mongolian Barbecue" - and I can't say that I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good meal.


That is odd.
Mongolian grill (蒙古烧烤) is quite common in China. Franchises
called
蒙古包烧烤 have also existed for at over ten years.


> These are merely a take-off from the "Mongolian Hot Pot", except that customers line up to have their choices of various meats and vegetables stir-fried on hot plates by the cooks. The sauces provided were very banal as well, so all-in-all, not recommendable. For those of you who may have missed the video clip I posted on sushi, you have to see it by clicking on: http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2v1263c .



> J.



kilikini 06-12-2006 03:24 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
wrote:
> James wrote:
>> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
>> invention?
>>
>> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
>> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
>> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.

>
> It's a disgusting place where they have a bunch of sub-par meats,
> veggies, and sauces lined up buffet-style. One goes through the line
> and picks out what looks the least gut-wrenching, fills up a bowl,
> hands it over to one of the surly youths working the "grill", and sits
> down to wince with dismay upon sampling the first bite. All for
> $9.99! Yeehaw!


Ours is $4.99 and it's not disgusting at all. It's probably the best meal
in town - so if you think *that's* disgusting, consider the alternatives.

kili

--
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini



Chris Marksberry 06-12-2006 04:17 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

> > James wrote:
> >> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> >> invention?
> >>
> >> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> >> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> >> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.

> >
> > It's a disgusting place where they have a bunch of sub-par meats,
> > veggies, and sauces lined up buffet-style. One goes through the line
> > and picks out what looks the least gut-wrenching, fills up a bowl,
> > hands it over to one of the surly youths working the "grill", and sits
> > down to wince with dismay upon sampling the first bite. All for
> > $9.99! Yeehaw!

>
> Ours is $4.99 and it's not disgusting at all. It's probably the best meal
> in town - so if you think *that's* disgusting, consider the alternatives.
>
> kili
>
> --
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
>
>


Locally we have a place called Hans Mongolian BBQ and since there are only a
handful of them in the Houston area (and none of the others as good as this
place) so people flock there from all over town. Very good!.. you start out
picking from a wide variety of frozen meats and then it's on to the veggies
and sauces to pick.. where you choose your sauces there is some printed
stuff above them regarding suggestions or you can ask the owner. It also
includes an appetizer bar with BBQ spare ribs, dumplings, soups, etc.

Very nice and an immaculately clean restaurant. Believe it's $5.95 for
lunch.

Chris in Pearland, TX



Peter A 06-12-2006 04:43 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
In article >,
says...
> Locally we have a place called Hans Mongolian BBQ and since there are only a
> handful of them in the Houston area (and none of the others as good as this
> place) so people flock there from all over town. Very good!.. you start out
> picking from a wide variety of frozen meats and then it's on to the veggies
> and sauces to pick.. where you choose your sauces there is some printed
> stuff above them regarding suggestions or you can ask the owner. It also
> includes an appetizer bar with BBQ spare ribs, dumplings, soups, etc.
>


The Mongolian Grill here has three prices - 1, 2, or 3 bowls. You take
your bowl(s) to a buffet where you load them up with the raw ingredients
of your choice. There's a large selection, mostly veggies but also
meats. The general quality of the ingredients is mediocre. Some people
have gotten very skilled at piling a huge amount of food in their bowls.
Then you take the stuff to the grill where an employee stir-fries it
with the sauce of your choice. Rice is provided too.

There are several problems. First is that the ingredients are of
questionable quality. Then, they are all cooked together so there's no
accounting for the fact that some things need longer to cook than
others.

The place is popular with people who want huge quantities of food at a
reasonable price and don't care much about the quality.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at
www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Pete C. 06-12-2006 05:04 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
Peter A wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> > Locally we have a place called Hans Mongolian BBQ and since there are only a
> > handful of them in the Houston area (and none of the others as good as this
> > place) so people flock there from all over town. Very good!.. you start out
> > picking from a wide variety of frozen meats and then it's on to the veggies
> > and sauces to pick.. where you choose your sauces there is some printed
> > stuff above them regarding suggestions or you can ask the owner. It also
> > includes an appetizer bar with BBQ spare ribs, dumplings, soups, etc.
> >

>
> The Mongolian Grill here has three prices - 1, 2, or 3 bowls. You take
> your bowl(s) to a buffet where you load them up with the raw ingredients
> of your choice. There's a large selection, mostly veggies but also
> meats. The general quality of the ingredients is mediocre. Some people
> have gotten very skilled at piling a huge amount of food in their bowls.
> Then you take the stuff to the grill where an employee stir-fries it
> with the sauce of your choice. Rice is provided too.
>
> There are several problems. First is that the ingredients are of
> questionable quality. Then, they are all cooked together so there's no
> accounting for the fact that some things need longer to cook than
> others.
>
> The place is popular with people who want huge quantities of food at a
> reasonable price and don't care much about the quality.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
> Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at
www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm


You've apparently got a crappy place.

Around here we have the Genghis Grill franchises and they are excellent.
The ingredient quality and freshness are excellent, cleanliness is
impeccable and your comment about cooking times is way off as well.

The big "wok" ring has tapered heat zones, hotter towards the middle and
cooler to the outside. The cooks are quite aware of cooking times and if
you watch you will see they immediately sort the contents of your bowl
and put the meats to the inside, seafood towards the outside and veggies
in the middle. They check how items like the steak chunks are doing by
tapping them to see how firm they are, the same as you would do with a
steak on the grill.

Pricing is also a bit better. I don't recall the exact prices at the
moment, but there is a reasonable price for one bowl and for a couple
dollars more it's all you can eat.


Pete C.

notbob 06-12-2006 05:06 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
On 2006-12-06, > wrote:

> It's a disgusting place where they have a bunch of sub-par meats,
> veggies, and sauces lined up buffet-style. One goes through the line
> and picks out what looks the least gut-wrenching, fills up a bowl,
> hands it over to one of the surly youths working the "grill", and sits
> down to wince with dismay upon sampling the first bite. All for $9.99!


Sucks to be you.

nb

Chris Marksberry 06-12-2006 05:19 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

> > Locally we have a place called Hans Mongolian BBQ and since there are

only a
> > handful of them in the Houston area (and none of the others as good as

this
> > place) so people flock there from all over town. Very good!.. you start

out
> > picking from a wide variety of frozen meats and then it's on to the

veggies
> > and sauces to pick.. where you choose your sauces there is some printed
> > stuff above them regarding suggestions or you can ask the owner. It

also
> > includes an appetizer bar with BBQ spare ribs, dumplings, soups, etc.
> >

>
> The Mongolian Grill here has three prices - 1, 2, or 3 bowls. You take
> your bowl(s) to a buffet where you load them up with the raw ingredients
> of your choice. There's a large selection, mostly veggies but also
> meats. The general quality of the ingredients is mediocre. Some people
> have gotten very skilled at piling a huge amount of food in their bowls.
> Then you take the stuff to the grill where an employee stir-fries it
> with the sauce of your choice. Rice is provided too.
>
> There are several problems. First is that the ingredients are of
> questionable quality. Then, they are all cooked together so there's no
> accounting for the fact that some things need longer to cook than
> others.
>
> The place is popular with people who want huge quantities of food at a
> reasonable price and don't care much about the quality.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
> Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm


The place I mentioned doesn't attract that type of clientele and the quality
is very good. The veggies are always fresh and the choices change on a
daily basis. They do offer an "all you can eat" deal but at a higher price.

Believe that there are a couple Mongolian BBQ places in Houston proper, but
people are willing to drive to the Clear Lake area (NASA Land)place for the
quality.

Chris in Pearland, TX



J.Venning[_1_] 06-12-2006 05:47 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
"ltlee1" > wrote in message ups.com...
>That is odd.
>Mongolian grill (蒙古烧烤) is quite common in China. Franchises
>called
>蒙古包烧烤 have also existed for at over ten years.
>

Maybe they do exist, but they weren't in the neighbourhood where we spent our time. There were a couple of Mongolian Hot Pot restaurants, where I treated my family and colleagues to lunch. We were amazed at the amount of pigeon stomachs that were being dished out on those plates. Do they really have so many pigeons to slaughter for food? I'll look out for them next time I travel that a'ways.
J.

James[_1_] 06-12-2006 07:55 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

J.Venning wrote:
> "ltlee1" > wrote in message ups.com...
> >That is odd.
> >Mongolian grill (蒙古烧烤) is quite common in China. Franchises
> >called
> >蒙古包烧烤 have also existed for at over ten years.
> >

> Maybe they do exist, but they weren't in the neighbourhood where we spent our time. There were a couple of Mongolian Hot Pot restaurants, where I treated my family and colleagues to lunch. We were amazed at the amount of pigeon stomachs that were being dished out on those plates. Do they really have so many pigeons to slaughter for food? I'll look out for them next time I travel that a'ways.
> J.


Do they move a lot of pigeons too? Otherwise they might be getting the
stomachs from fancy restaurants that do sell a lot of pigeons or swabs.


Gregory Morrow[_13_] 06-12-2006 08:44 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

James wrote:

> Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> invention?
>
> They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.



Goggle "Mongolian Hot Pot"...

--
Best
Greg





Gregory Morrow[_13_] 06-12-2006 08:52 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

Pete C.wrote:

> James wrote:
> >
> > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > invention?
> >
> > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.

>
> It's a DIY stir-fry kinda place, almost certainly a western invention.
> Unlikely to have any authenticity anywhere, but certainly tasty.
>
> Got the Genghis Grill version in my area and it's always very good. Hard
> to miss when I select every ingredient myself and they just cook it.
>


It kind of followed on the fondue fad of the 60's - 70's, there was a resto
in my Chicawgo nabe decades ago called "Mongolian House" which featured this
schtick, there are many permutations. Some Japanese and Korean places have
a similar cooking style:

http://www.beijingservice.com/beijin...hts/hotbot.htm

"Mongolian Hot Pot

Mongolian hot pot was originated from northern nomadic tribes. The Mongolian
version of the steaming feast has been called the father of all Chinese hot
pot. The Chinese hot pot boasts a history of more than 1000 years and built
its popularity during the Tang Dynasty [628-907]. In the following
dynasties, the culinary style was adopted by imperial chefs in the middle of
17th century, with mutton hot pot becoming a favorite of the Supreme Qing
rulers.

You're served with slices of raw mutton. You dip them into the boiling water
in the hot pot placed in the middle of the table of the table, coat them
with a do-it-yourself sauce, and start eating.

Now Chinese hot pot can be divided into many kinds. Some of them are listed
as followed.

1 . Mongolian-style
The main ingredient of the modern Mandarin version of Mongolian-style
hot-pot is prime mutton taken from tiny sheep raised in inner Mongolia.
Chefs cut the iced mutton into paper---thin slices and prepare a source
containing ingredients like sesame butter, soy sauce, chili oil, chopped
chives, glutinous rice wine, shrimp sauce, vinegar and Chinese parsley. The
traditional hot-pot meal is not considered complete without bean curd,
sesame pancakes and Chinese cabbages.
The best Mandarin hot-pot restaurant in Beijing is Donglaishun, on
Wangfujing, the Fifth Avenue in Beijing. The mutton slices here are finer
and thinner than anywhere else. The bubbling stock, into which the mutton is
dipped, is favored with mushrooms and dried shrimps to create the
traditional Mandarin taste.

2 . Sichuan-style
Unlike the royal hot pot favored by the Mandarin aristocrats, the
Sichun-style version has always been a food of the common folks. The Sichuan
hot pot, like the rest of that humid and populous province's cuisine, tastes
very spicy. The broth is flavored with chili peppers and other pungent herbs
and spices. The main ingredients include hot pepper, Chinese crystal sugar
and wine. Slices of kidney, chicken breast, beef tripe, goose intestines,
spring onion, soya bean sprouts, mushrooms eel, duck and sea cucumber form
the meat content of the dish.
And for those who like to cool their palate after the chili shock, many
Sichuan restaurant now serve a hot pot that is divided into two sections-one
containing a spicy broth, the other a milder, white stock.

3 . Catonese-syle
The southern style is sweeter and features the seafood ingredients that have
become popular in most Cantonese eateries. Fresh shrimps, scallops, crab
meat, white eels and scuttle fish form the staples of this hot pot style.
They are served with a sweetish white sauce."

</>











Pete C. 06-12-2006 08:58 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> Pete C.wrote:
>
> > James wrote:
> > >
> > > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > > invention?
> > >
> > > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.

> >
> > It's a DIY stir-fry kinda place, almost certainly a western invention.
> > Unlikely to have any authenticity anywhere, but certainly tasty.
> >
> > Got the Genghis Grill version in my area and it's always very good. Hard
> > to miss when I select every ingredient myself and they just cook it.
> >

>
> It kind of followed on the fondue fad of the 60's - 70's, there was a resto
> in my Chicawgo nabe decades ago called "Mongolian House" which featured this
> schtick, there are many permutations. Some Japanese and Korean places have
> a similar cooking style:
>
> http://www.beijingservice.com/beijin...hts/hotbot.htm
>
> "Mongolian Hot Pot
>
> Mongolian hot pot was originated from northern nomadic tribes. The Mongolian
> version of the steaming feast has been called the father of all Chinese hot
> pot. The Chinese hot pot boasts a history of more than 1000 years and built
> its popularity during the Tang Dynasty [628-907]. In the following
> dynasties, the culinary style was adopted by imperial chefs in the middle of
> 17th century, with mutton hot pot becoming a favorite of the Supreme Qing
> rulers.
>
> You're served with slices of raw mutton. You dip them into the boiling water
> in the hot pot placed in the middle of the table of the table, coat them
> with a do-it-yourself sauce, and start eating.
>
> Now Chinese hot pot can be divided into many kinds. Some of them are listed
> as followed.
>
> 1 . Mongolian-style
> The main ingredient of the modern Mandarin version of Mongolian-style
> hot-pot is prime mutton taken from tiny sheep raised in inner Mongolia.
> Chefs cut the iced mutton into paper---thin slices and prepare a source
> containing ingredients like sesame butter, soy sauce, chili oil, chopped
> chives, glutinous rice wine, shrimp sauce, vinegar and Chinese parsley. The
> traditional hot-pot meal is not considered complete without bean curd,
> sesame pancakes and Chinese cabbages.
> The best Mandarin hot-pot restaurant in Beijing is Donglaishun, on
> Wangfujing, the Fifth Avenue in Beijing. The mutton slices here are finer
> and thinner than anywhere else. The bubbling stock, into which the mutton is
> dipped, is favored with mushrooms and dried shrimps to create the
> traditional Mandarin taste.
>
> 2 . Sichuan-style
> Unlike the royal hot pot favored by the Mandarin aristocrats, the
> Sichun-style version has always been a food of the common folks. The Sichuan
> hot pot, like the rest of that humid and populous province's cuisine, tastes
> very spicy. The broth is flavored with chili peppers and other pungent herbs
> and spices. The main ingredients include hot pepper, Chinese crystal sugar
> and wine. Slices of kidney, chicken breast, beef tripe, goose intestines,
> spring onion, soya bean sprouts, mushrooms eel, duck and sea cucumber form
> the meat content of the dish.
> And for those who like to cool their palate after the chili shock, many
> Sichuan restaurant now serve a hot pot that is divided into two sections-one
> containing a spicy broth, the other a milder, white stock.
>
> 3 . Catonese-syle
> The southern style is sweeter and features the seafood ingredients that have
> become popular in most Cantonese eateries. Fresh shrimps, scallops, crab
> meat, white eels and scuttle fish form the staples of this hot pot style.
> They are served with a sweetish white sauce."
>
> </>


There are still some good fondue places around. The Melting Pot in
Addison, TX would be one.

The Japanese and Korean hibachi thing is not really the same since the
chef selects everything and does a show. The current "Mongolian Grill"
thing you select everything and they just cook it for you with a small
amount of show.

Pete C.

Gregory Morrow[_13_] 06-12-2006 08:59 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

> wrote:

> J.Venning wrote:
> > "James" > wrote in message

ps.com...
> > > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > > invention?
> > > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.
> > >

> > I have never encountered a "Mongolian Grill" during all the times I

visited China, but I have encountered them in the West - both as "Mongolian
Grill" and "Mongolian Barbecue" - and I can't say that I would recommend
them to anyone looking for a good meal. These are merely a take-off from the
"Mongolian Hot Pot", except that customers line up to have their choices of
various meats and vegetables stir-fried on hot plates by the cooks. The
sauces provided were very banal as well, so all-in-all, not recommendable.
For those of you who may have missed the video clip I posted on sushi, you
have to see it by clicking on: http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2v1263c
..
> > J.

>
> A Manchurian (from Beijing) friend of mine introduced me to a version
> of a "hot pot" where various meats and vegetables are cooked in a
> boiling pot of water. She said told me that boiling water not stir
> frying was the traditional/authentic northern chinese method for
> making a "hot pot." I know that cantonese version of "hot pot" using
> boiling water/broth, too. My friend assured me that the "Mongolian
> Grill" was not traditional Mongolian fare but a modern asian-fusion
> restaurant concoction ( e.g. General Tso Chicken and the fortune
> cookie). A while back agos, I did a internet search on the topic and
> a website I found made by female mongolian also asserted that today's
> "Mongolian Grill" setup is a modern restaurant innovation/model. This
> restaurant model is fairly success in the USA and has spawned a
> franchised "Mongolian Grill" restaurants called *BD's Mongolian Grill*
> in the USA (see http://www.gomongo.com/ )



Here in Chicago there is a Midwestern chain called "Flat Top Grill", there
are many similar...:

http://www.flattopgrill.com/

"Flat Top Grill is a create your own stir-fry restaurant. We offer more than
25 fresh ingredients including traditional and exotic fruits and vegetables,
a selection of rice and noodles, signature handcrafted sauces, prime beef
tenderloin and seasonal offerings including game and seafood

We also offer Asian inspired appetizers, homemade desserts, and a full bar
featuring Tiki drinks and urban cocktails. We pride ourselves on being
vegetarian friendly and food allergy aware. Our most outstanding quality is
that we offer full service in a fast casual setting. Our partners guide you
through the food line, make sauce suggestions and serve the food piping hot
to your table. No need to wait at the grill!"



--
Best
Greg




Gregory Morrow[_13_] 06-12-2006 09:04 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

Pete C.wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >
> > Pete C.wrote:
> >
> > > James wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Seems a lot of places feature Mongolian Grill. Is it an western
> > > > invention?
> > > >
> > > > They feature meats, seafood, vegetables but the only foods native
> > > > Mongolians have access to are sheep, horses, milk & milk products.
> > > > Never saw a Mongolian Grill in any travel films.
> > >
> > > It's a DIY stir-fry kinda place, almost certainly a western invention.
> > > Unlikely to have any authenticity anywhere, but certainly tasty.
> > >
> > > Got the Genghis Grill version in my area and it's always very good.

Hard
> > > to miss when I select every ingredient myself and they just cook it.
> > >

> >
> > It kind of followed on the fondue fad of the 60's - 70's, there was a

resto
> > in my Chicawgo nabe decades ago called "Mongolian House" which featured

this
> > schtick, there are many permutations. Some Japanese and Korean places

have
> > a similar cooking style:
> >
> > http://www.beijingservice.com/beijin...hts/hotbot.htm
> >
> > </>

>
> There are still some good fondue places around. The Melting Pot in
> Addison, TX would be one.



Yep, in Chicawgo we have Geja's Cafe, it's still going strong after 30+
years...


>
> The Japanese and Korean hibachi thing is not really the same since the
> chef selects everything and does a show. The current "Mongolian Grill"
> thing you select everything and they just cook it for you with a small
> amount of show.



Correct...

--
Best
Greg





J.Venning[_1_] 06-12-2006 10:03 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
"Gregory Morrow" <gregorymorrowTheGoodTheBadAndTheLoafhead@earthlin k.net> wrote in message ink.net...
> Here in Chicago there is a Midwestern chain called "Flat Top Grill", there
> are many similar...:
> http://www.flattopgrill.com/
> "Flat Top Grill is a create your own stir-fry restaurant. We offer more than
> 25 fresh ingredients including traditional and exotic fruits and vegetables,
> a selection of rice and noodles, signature handcrafted sauces, prime beef
> tenderloin and seasonal offerings including game and seafood
> We also offer Asian inspired appetizers, homemade desserts, and a full bar
> featuring Tiki drinks and urban cocktails. We pride ourselves on being
> vegetarian friendly and food allergy aware. Our most outstanding quality is
> that we offer full service in a fast casual setting. Our partners guide you
> through the food line, make sauce suggestions and serve the food piping hot
> to your table. No need to wait at the grill!"
> Best
> Greg
>

Thank you for the info. I will be in the Windy City for a week next June, and I'll give them a try, if I come across any.
J.

J.Venning[_1_] 06-12-2006 10:08 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
"James" > wrote in message ps.com...
>Do they move a lot of pigeons too? Otherwise they might be getting the
>stomachs from fancy restaurants that do sell a lot of pigeons or swabs.
>

The restaurant where we had this was located on a street perpendicular to Wang Fu Jing in Beijing, close to the Friendship Store, where there are several large hotels with fancy restaurants, so they may well have got those pigeon stomachs from those large hotel restaurants. Personally I prefer pig stomachs.
J.

ltlee1 06-12-2006 11:21 PM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 

J.Venning wrote:
> "James" > wrote in message ps.com...
> >Do they move a lot of pigeons too? Otherwise they might be getting the
> >stomachs from fancy restaurants that do sell a lot of pigeons or swabs.
> >

> The restaurant where we had this was located on a street perpendicular to Wang Fu Jing in Beijing, close to the Friendship Store, where there are several large hotels with fancy restaurants, so they may well have got those pigeon stomachs from those large hotel restaurants. Personally I prefer pig stomachs.


Try the Mongolian Grill Buffet in Tianlun Dynasty Hotel at Wang Fu
Jing.

> J.



J.Venning[_1_] 07-12-2006 01:06 AM

What the hell is a "Mongolian Grill"?
 
"ltlee1" > wrote in message ups.com...
> Try the Mongolian Grill Buffet in Tianlun Dynasty Hotel at Wang Fu
> Jing.
>

O.K., I'll give it a shot, although our favourite meals were had at various food courts in the large shopping malls, and the best one was at the Pine Valley Golf Resort.
J.


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