trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.

bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer thermometer says
0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice cubes in a basket just to
make sure). bought club pack of ground hamburger. packed small amounts
of it into ziploc freezer bags about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick
to make defrosting quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to
ensure freshness (i'm weird). no smell.

took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
put it on a plate to defrost in microwave. when i removed it from
microwave, i put my nose to it to smell it. it had a "funny" smell -
it wasn't offensive like rotten meat smell, but it shouldn't have this
smell. husband said he could smell something too, but couldn't figure
out what it was. maybe a slight plastic smell - but it smelled
slightly sweet to me. threw it out.

i'm not used to freezing things (just bought it fresh all the time).
did it go bad? or does meat absorb odors from the new freezer? i have
other meats in the freezer (steaks, chicken, pork) which have not
smelled at all when defrosted.

thanks.

Naztazia wrote:
> trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.
>
> bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer thermometer says
> 0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice cubes in a basket just to
> make sure). bought club pack of ground hamburger. packed small amounts
> of it into ziploc freezer bags about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick
> to make defrosting quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to
> ensure freshness (i'm weird). no smell.
>
> took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
> put it on a plate to defrost in microwave. when i removed it from
> microwave, i put my nose to it to smell it. it had a "funny" smell -
> it wasn't offensive like rotten meat smell, but it shouldn't have this
> smell. husband said he could smell something too, but couldn't figure
> out what it was. maybe a slight plastic smell - but it smelled
> slightly sweet to me. threw it out.
>
> i'm not used to freezing things (just bought it fresh all the time).
> did it go bad? or does meat absorb odors from the new freezer? i have
> other meats in the freezer (steaks, chicken, pork) which have not
> smelled at all when defrosted.

Don't ever buy preground mystery meat... no way to know what/who is in
it.

Now that you have a freezer buy a meat grinder and grind your own.

Naztazia wrote:


>
> i'm not used to freezing things (just bought it fresh all the time).
> did it go bad?

If it was fine when you put it in then it was probably just the way beef
smells when it's been thawed after freezing. I only use frozen beef for
things like meatloaf or chili where I'll cover that with heavy seasoning.



Dawn

"Naztazia" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.
>
> bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer thermometer says
> 0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice cubes in a basket just to
> make sure). bought club pack of ground hamburger. packed small amounts
> of it into ziploc freezer bags about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick
> to make defrosting quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to
> ensure freshness (i'm weird). no smell.
>
> took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
> put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.

Don't defrost in the microwave.

In article >, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> "Naztazia" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.
> >
> > bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer thermometer says
> > 0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice cubes in a basket just to
> > make sure). bought club pack of ground hamburger. packed small amounts
> > of it into ziploc freezer bags about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick
> > to make defrosting quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to
> > ensure freshness (i'm weird). no smell.
> >
> > took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
> > put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
>
> Don't defrost in the microwave.

That was my thought too...
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In article .com>,
"Naztazia" > wrote:


> i'm not used to freezing things (just bought it fresh all the time).
> did it go bad? or does meat absorb odors from the new freezer? i have
> other meats in the freezer (steaks, chicken, pork) which have not
> smelled at all when defrosted.

I have a "weight defrost" setting on my microwave. I thaw from small
amounts up to a six pound chicken using the microwave. I doubt, but
won't guarantee, that your freezer is the problem.
More likely, your microwave cooked your product just a bit around the
edges. That won't hurt anything providing you are cooking whatever it is
you thawed soon enough. You probably smelled that. Microwaves can be a
real timesaver in thawing once you get comfortable doing it. I find no
taste difference.
Don't leave a thin amount of anything in a bulk package exposed to the
microwaves though. It will cook while everything else just gets thawed.
I arrange thinner stuff into the bulk of the product that I'm going to
freeze before I put the product into the freezer. Works for me. I
defrost meat as delicate as an eight ounce portion of salmon without
cooking it in the microwave. Sometimes I have to let it sit to get ice
crystals out. But I prefer doing that to cooking it in the microwave
when all I wanted to do was defrost.

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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:02:44 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>
>> "Naztazia" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>>> took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
>>> put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
>>
>> Don't defrost in the microwave.
>
> There's nothing wrong with defrosting in the microwave if you do
> it correctly (on 20-30% power, 4 minutes on, 5 off, 4 on).
> Ideally it should be thawed int he fridge to keep moisture
> distribution even, but the micro works fine in a pinch.

No it doesn't.

Omelet wrote:
> In article >, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
> > "Naztazia" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.
> > >
> > > bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer thermometer says
> > > 0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice cubes in a basket just to
> > > make sure). bought club pack of ground hamburger. packed small amounts
> > > of it into ziploc freezer bags about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick
> > > to make defrosting quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to
> > > ensure freshness (i'm weird). no smell.
> > >
> > > took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
> > > put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
> >
> > Don't defrost in the microwave.
>
> That was my thought too...

I'll use the microwave to to get a head start, to partially defrost for
like five minutes but then allow the meat to fully thaw in the fridge
over night.... I've found trying to fully defrost meat with a microwave
does not give very good results.

Sheldon

"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:45:07 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with defrosting in the microwave if you do
>>> it correctly (on 20-30% power, 4 minutes on, 5 off, 4 on).
>>> Ideally it should be thawed int he fridge to keep moisture
>>> distribution even, but the micro works fine in a pinch.
>>
>> No it doesn't.
>
> Then again, some people will never get it right. I used to think
> like that, too. I can even defrost ribeyes that will be
> perfectly thawed cook to perfection.
>
> And I take my meat seriously.


OK - you can do it. But, based on what some people here say, they either
have microwaves with no level settings, or don't have the presence of mind
to understand how to make those settings work for defrosting. And, read the
manual? Forget it!

"Steve Wertz" > wrote

> And I take my meat seriously.
>

Bet you wish everyone did.

Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:06:28p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article >,
> Steve Wertz > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:02:44 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>>
>> > "Naztazia" > wrote in message
>> > oups.com...
>> >
>> >> took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
>> >> put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
>> >
>> > Don't defrost in the microwave.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with defrosting in the microwave if you do
>> it correctly (on 20-30% power, 4 minutes on, 5 off, 4 on).
>> Ideally it should be thawed int he fridge to keep moisture
>> distribution even, but the micro works fine in a pinch.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Hm, in most cases, I'd agree.
>
> I've had good luck with defrosting (and even cooking) poultry and pork
> in the M-wave......
>
> but it always destroys beef no matter what I do.
>
> Beef and the microwave just don't work for me.
>
> Ever.
>
> I plan beef a day ahead of time and defrost it in the refrigerator.

If I'm going to use it in something like spaghetti sauce or chili, I find
no problem with using the microwave for thawing. However, I don't like
using m/w thawed beef for things like meatloaf or burger patties.

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:08:37p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article . com>,
> "Sheldon" > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> > In article >, "cybercat" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Naztazia" > wrote in message
>> > > oups.com...
>> > > > trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.
>> > > >
>> > > > bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer
>> > > > thermometer says 0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice
>> > > > cubes in a basket just to make sure). bought club pack of ground
>> > > > hamburger. packed small amounts of it into ziploc freezer bags
>> > > > about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick to make defrosting
>> > > > quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to ensure freshness
>> > > > (i'm weird). no smell.
>> > > >
>> > > > took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite,
>> > > > then put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
>> > >
>> > > Don't defrost in the microwave.
>> >
>> > That was my thought too...
>>
>> I'll use the microwave to to get a head start, to partially defrost for
>> like five minutes but then allow the meat to fully thaw in the fridge
>> over night.... I've found trying to fully defrost meat with a microwave
>> does not give very good results.
>>
>> Sheldon
>
> Depends on the meat.
>
> Like I've posted before, pork and poultry seem to defrost ok in the
> m-wave if patience is practiced.
>
> I've given up on ever using it for beef.....
>
> or fish/seafood.
>
> Meal planning makes for a better result.

A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like a
Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not use a
pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works beautifully. I
can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse technology
simply can't perform like that.

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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:02:44 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>
> > "Naztazia" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >> took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
> >> put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
> >
> > Don't defrost in the microwave.
>
> There's nothing wrong with defrosting in the microwave if you do
> it correctly (on 20-30% power, 4 minutes on, 5 off, 4 on).
> Ideally it should be thawed int he fridge to keep moisture
> distribution even, but the micro works fine in a pinch.
>
> -sw

Hm, in most cases, I'd agree.

I've had good luck with defrosting (and even cooking) poultry and pork
in the M-wave......

but it always destroys beef no matter what I do.

Beef and the microwave just don't work for me.

Ever.

I plan beef a day ahead of time and defrost it in the refrigerator.
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> And I take my meat seriously.
>
> -sw

Glory holes?
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In article . com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, "cybercat" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "Naztazia" > wrote in message
> > > oups.com...
> > > > trying to figure out if an "odor" (non-offensive) is normal.
> > > >
> > > > bought a new stand alone freezer 2 months ago. freezer thermometer says
> > > > 0 deg F. no power outages (i have loose ice cubes in a basket just to
> > > > make sure). bought club pack of ground hamburger. packed small amounts
> > > > of it into ziploc freezer bags about 1 month ago - only 1/2 inch thick
> > > > to make defrosting quicker. smelled every bit of it beforehand to
> > > > ensure freshness (i'm weird). no smell.
> > > >
> > > > took ground beef out of freezer, then out of ziploc bag tonite, then
> > > > put it on a plate to defrost in microwave.
> > >
> > > Don't defrost in the microwave.
> >
> > That was my thought too...
>
> I'll use the microwave to to get a head start, to partially defrost for
> like five minutes but then allow the meat to fully thaw in the fridge
> over night.... I've found trying to fully defrost meat with a microwave
> does not give very good results.
>
> Sheldon

Depends on the meat.

Like I've posted before, pork and poultry seem to defrost ok in the
m-wave if patience is practiced.

I've given up on ever using it for beef.....

or fish/seafood.

Meal planning makes for a better result.
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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:45:07 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >
> >> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> There's nothing wrong with defrosting in the microwave if you do
> >>> it correctly (on 20-30% power, 4 minutes on, 5 off, 4 on).
> >>> Ideally it should be thawed int he fridge to keep moisture
> >>> distribution even, but the micro works fine in a pinch.
> >>
> >> No it doesn't.
> >
> > Then again, some people will never get it right. I used to think
> > like that, too. I can even defrost ribeyes that will be
> > perfectly thawed cook to perfection.
> >
> > And I take my meat seriously.
>
>
> OK - you can do it. But, based on what some people here say, they either
> have microwaves with no level settings, or don't have the presence of mind
> to understand how to make those settings work for defrosting. And, read the
> manual? Forget it!

Many lack the patience for RTFM'ing. ;-)

Experimentation seems to be more common. <lol>

And if if fails, well, there is where the attitudes are formed!
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Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:51:15p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article 9>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If I'm going to use it in something like spaghetti sauce or chili, I find
>> no problem with using the microwave for thawing. However, I don't like
>> using m/w thawed beef for things like meatloaf or burger patties.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> The texture suffers most imho.

That's true, but relatively unimportant in things I use it in.

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:53:16p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article >,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like a
>> Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not use a
>> pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works beautifully.
>> I can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse
>> technology simply can't perform like that.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)

Mebbe so.

> The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last time
> I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around $300.00 and I
> could not afford it.

I bought my Panasonic at WalMart for a bit over $100. It has a power
output of 1350 watts. I'm not keen on any microwave that also has thermal
heating in it. makes clean-up too difficult because it bakes stuff onto
the surfaces.

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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> If I'm going to use it in something like spaghetti sauce or chili, I find
> no problem with using the microwave for thawing. However, I don't like
> using m/w thawed beef for things like meatloaf or burger patties.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

The texture suffers most imho.
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In article >,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like a
> Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not use a
> pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works beautifully. I
> can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse technology
> simply can't perform like that.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)

The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last time
I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around $300.00 and I
could not afford it.
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Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 02:35:29p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article 9>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:51:15p, Omelet meant to say...
>>
>> > In article 9>,
>> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I'm going to use it in something like spaghetti sauce or chili, I
>> >> find no problem with using the microwave for thawing. However, I
>> >> don't like using m/w thawed beef for things like meatloaf or burger
>> >> patties.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Wayne Boatwright
>> >
>> > The texture suffers most imho.
>>
>> That's true, but relatively unimportant in things I use it in.
>
> Oh it works fine in recipes! So does the poorly spiced venison Sausage
> that Lynn gave me.....
>
> But that's not the same thing.
>
> Apologies, I was actually attempting to agree with you.
> I did not state it well.

My error. I didn't read it correctly.

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 02:36:04p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article 9>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:53:16p, Omelet meant to say...
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like
>> >> a Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not
>> >> use a pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works
>> >> beautifully.
>> >> I can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse
>> >> technology simply can't perform like that.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Wayne Boatwright
>> >
>> > Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)
>>
>> Mebbe so.
>>
>> > The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last
>> > time I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around $300.00
>> > and I could not afford it.
>>
>> I bought my Panasonic at WalMart for a bit over $100. It has a power
>> output of 1350 watts. I'm not keen on any microwave that also has
>> thermal heating in it. makes clean-up too difficult because it bakes
>> stuff onto the surfaces.
>
> Kinda like a "self cleaning" oven? <eg>

Yeah, I had one self-cleaning oven that did fine on the oven cavity, but
just baked crap onto the glass in the door and on the edges near the seal.
On the whole, though, the other ones I've had have done an incredible job.

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 03:01:08p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article 9>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 02:36:04p, Omelet meant to say...
>>
>> > In article 9>,
>> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:53:16p, Omelet meant to say...
>> >>
>> >> > In article >,
>> >> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type
>> >> >> (like a Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and
>> >> >> does not use a pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then
>> >> >> it works beautifully.
>> >> >> I can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older
>> >> >> pulse
>> >> >> technology simply can't perform like that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Wayne Boatwright
>> >> >
>> >> > Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)
>> >>
>> >> Mebbe so.
>> >>
>> >> > The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last
>> >> > time I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around
>> >> > $300.00 and I could not afford it.
>> >>
>> >> I bought my Panasonic at WalMart for a bit over $100. It has a
>> >> power output of 1350 watts. I'm not keen on any microwave that also
>> >> has thermal heating in it. makes clean-up too difficult because it
>> >> bakes stuff onto the surfaces.
>> >
>> > Kinda like a "self cleaning" oven? <eg>
>>
>> Yeah, I had one self-cleaning oven that did fine on the oven cavity,
>> but just baked crap onto the glass in the door and on the edges near
>> the seal. On the whole, though, the other ones I've had have done an
>> incredible job.
>
> Glad it worked for you. :-)
>
> A self-cleaning oven was one of the things that prompted me to finally
> try that table top oven. I can soak the insert. One cannot soak an oven!
>
> So far, I'm rather charmed by it! Only time will tell.......<G>

Which one did you get?

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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:51:15p, Omelet meant to say...
>
> > In article 9>,
> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I'm going to use it in something like spaghetti sauce or chili, I find
> >> no problem with using the microwave for thawing. However, I don't like
> >> using m/w thawed beef for things like meatloaf or burger patties.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >
> > The texture suffers most imho.
>
> That's true, but relatively unimportant in things I use it in.

Oh it works fine in recipes! So does the poorly spiced venison Sausage
that Lynn gave me.....

But that's not the same thing.

Apologies, I was actually attempting to agree with you.
I did not state it well.
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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:53:16p, Omelet meant to say...
>
> > In article >,
> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like a
> >> Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not use a
> >> pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works beautifully.
> >> I can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse
> >> technology simply can't perform like that.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >
> > Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)
>
> Mebbe so.
>
> > The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last time
> > I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around $300.00 and I
> > could not afford it.
>
> I bought my Panasonic at WalMart for a bit over $100. It has a power
> output of 1350 watts. I'm not keen on any microwave that also has thermal
> heating in it. makes clean-up too difficult because it bakes stuff onto
> the surfaces.

Kinda like a "self cleaning" oven? <eg>
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> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 02:35:29p, Omelet meant to say...
>
> > In article 9>,
> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:51:15p, Omelet meant to say...
> >>
> >> > In article 9>,
> >> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If I'm going to use it in something like spaghetti sauce or chili, I
> >> >> find no problem with using the microwave for thawing. However, I
> >> >> don't like using m/w thawed beef for things like meatloaf or burger
> >> >> patties.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >> >
> >> > The texture suffers most imho.
> >>
> >> That's true, but relatively unimportant in things I use it in.
> >
> > Oh it works fine in recipes! So does the poorly spiced venison Sausage
> > that Lynn gave me.....
> >
> > But that's not the same thing.
> >
> > Apologies, I was actually attempting to agree with you.
> > I did not state it well.
>
> My error. I didn't read it correctly.

We agreed... that's all that matters. :-)

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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 02:36:04p, Omelet meant to say...
>
> > In article 9>,
> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:53:16p, Omelet meant to say...
> >>
> >> > In article >,
> >> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like
> >> >> a Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not
> >> >> use a pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works
> >> >> beautifully.
> >> >> I can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse
> >> >> technology simply can't perform like that.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >> >
> >> > Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)
> >>
> >> Mebbe so.
> >>
> >> > The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last
> >> > time I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around $300.00
> >> > and I could not afford it.
> >>
> >> I bought my Panasonic at WalMart for a bit over $100. It has a power
> >> output of 1350 watts. I'm not keen on any microwave that also has
> >> thermal heating in it. makes clean-up too difficult because it bakes
> >> stuff onto the surfaces.
> >
> > Kinda like a "self cleaning" oven? <eg>
>
> Yeah, I had one self-cleaning oven that did fine on the oven cavity, but
> just baked crap onto the glass in the door and on the edges near the seal.
> On the whole, though, the other ones I've had have done an incredible job.

Glad it worked for you. :-)

A self-cleaning oven was one of the things that prompted me to finally
try that table top oven. I can soak the insert. One cannot soak an oven!

So far, I'm rather charmed by it! Only time will tell.......<G>
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 01:53:16p, Omelet meant to say...
>
> > In article >,
> > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A lot depends on the type of microwave. If you have the type (like a
> >> Panasonic) that actually has variable power settings and does not use a
> >> pulse method to maintain lower power levels, then it works beautifully.
> >> I can fully thaw items without cooking the edges. The older pulse
> >> technology simply can't perform like that.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >
> > Time to invest in a more modern microwave? :-)
>
> Mebbe so.
>
> > The m-wave with an overhead heating element that Wal-mart had last time
> > I replaced my unit looked intriguing, but it was around $300.00 and I
> > could not afford it.
>
> I bought my Panasonic at WalMart for a bit over $100. It has a power
> output of 1350 watts. I'm not keen on any microwave that also has thermal
> heating in it. makes clean-up too difficult because it bakes stuff onto
> the surfaces.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> Procrastination Day Has Been Postponed!
We bought a new microwave a little over a year ago, and it is SO much
better that my old one- I paid less than 100.00 for it at Best Buy. I
never used to use my old one for defrosing because no matter what, the
edges would cook. But this one is great- it has settings for different
foods/ meats, and asks for the weight, as someone else mentioned. It
has never cooked anything yet.

Oh pshaw, on Thu 30 Nov 2006 08:11:10p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article 9>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Yeah, I had one self-cleaning oven that did fine on the oven cavity,
>> >> but just baked crap onto the glass in the door and on the edges near
>> >> the seal. On the whole, though, the other ones I've had have done
an
>> >> incredible job.
>> >
>> > Glad it worked for you. :-)
>> >
>> > A self-cleaning oven was one of the things that prompted me to finally
>> > try that table top oven. I can soak the insert. One cannot soak an
oven!
>> >
>> > So far, I'm rather charmed by it! Only time will tell.......<G>
>>
>> Which one did you get?
>
> 18 quart Hamilton Beach.
> I used it for T-day and posted pictures:
>
> http://i15.tinypic.com/2v35t29.jpg
>
> http://i15.tinypic.com/2h6ghw5.jpg
>
>:-)

I remember the pictures, but I must have forgotten the brand. That would
be my pick, too.

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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Yeah, I had one self-cleaning oven that did fine on the oven cavity,
> >> but just baked crap onto the glass in the door and on the edges near
> >> the seal. On the whole, though, the other ones I've had have done an
> >> incredible job.
> >
> > Glad it worked for you. :-)
> >
> > A self-cleaning oven was one of the things that prompted me to finally
> > try that table top oven. I can soak the insert. One cannot soak an oven!
> >
> > So far, I'm rather charmed by it! Only time will tell.......<G>
>
> Which one did you get?

18 quart Hamilton Beach.
I used it for T-day and posted pictures:

http://i15.tinypic.com/2v35t29.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/2h6ghw5.jpg

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Naztazia wrote:
when i removed it from
> microwave, i put my nose to it to smell it. it had a "funny" smell -
> it wasn't offensive like rotten meat smell, but it shouldn't have this
> smell. husband said he could smell something too, but couldn't figure
> out what it was. maybe a slight plastic smell - but it smelled
> slightly sweet to me. threw it out.

I think what you smelled was just warm raw meat. If the beef was fresh
when you froze it there was nothing wrong with it. Don't cook or thaw
in plastic anymore. It's not healthy. And I defrost in the fridge
overnight. I've never had any success thawing in the micro. No
matter what "automatic" setting I use, or my own settings...the frozen
meat always starts to cook. And the smell is revolting to me. Cooked
meat and raw meat. BLEH!!

In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Which one did you get?
> >
> > 18 quart Hamilton Beach.
> > I used it for T-day and posted pictures:
> >
> > http://i15.tinypic.com/2v35t29.jpg
> >
> > http://i15.tinypic.com/2h6ghw5.jpg
> >
> >:-)
>
> I remember the pictures, but I must have forgotten the brand. That would
> be my pick, too.

It's cool... With the number of posts here during the cooking/holiday
season, I'd not expect many to remember. <G>

I'm going to roast ducklings in it for Christmas dinner!
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