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Bob Terwilliger[_1_] 25-09-2006 06:04 AM

Faking the South of France
 
Looking around my kitchen before work, I realized that I had all the
ingredients necessary for ratatouille. I also had some purple string beans
which were getting a bit aged in my refrigerator.

I started out by cutting three spicy Italian sausages into 1-inch lengths.
(I know it's not a traditional part of ratatouille, but I like it.) I didn't
remove the casings because I wanted the sausage to retain some of its shape.
That went into a saucier and started cooking over medium heat. I didn't need
to add any fat; the fat that rendered out of the sausage was sufficient.
Once a bit of the fat had rendered out, I added a chopped onion, a chopped
red bell pepper, and a chopped yellow bell pepper. I let them cook for a
while, then added an eggplant and a zucchini, both of which had been left in
fairly large chunks. I salted the mixture and added a fair sprinkling of
herbes de Provence. I covered the saucier and let the mixture simmer for
about fifteen minutes. Then I remembered that I had some mushrooms which
needed to be used up, so I cut them into big chunks and added them. Covered
the pan again and simmered for another eight or nine minutes.

During the cooking of the sausage-vegetable mixture (which I don't think
qualifies as ratatouille anymore), I put a big handful of new potatoes on to
boil in salted water. They cooked for ten minutes while I cleaned and cut a
big handful of purple string beans. (I should have put a couple eggs in the
water too, but I forgot.) The string beans went into the water with the
potatoes, and they cooked together for about seven or eight minutes. After
that, I dumped them into a colander, then immediately into an ice water
bath. They sat in the ice water for a couple minutes to cool down, then I
lifted the ice out and dumped the vegetables into the colander again. The
bowl which had previously held the ice water was used as a mixing bowl for
the vegetables, to which I added a pouch of tuna and a jar of marinated
artichoke hearts, making a kind of *******ized (and much abbreviated)
Niçoise salad. That all went into a big Gladware container.

Once I had the faux-Niçoise salad completed, I generously sprinkled the
sausage-vegetable stew with finely-grated Parmesano-Reggiano cheese, then
ladled out enough to mostly-fill a 4-cup container. I rounded out my meal
with a ciabatta roll and an apple. (I don't know what variety of apple I got
in my CSA box this week, but they're FANTASTIC for eating out of hand.
Nicely sour, crunchy, and juicy -- and I'm not normally a big fan of
apples.)


Bob
NOTE: Ratatouille normally has garlic in it. I considered adding garlic to
the sausage-ratatouille stuff, but I didn't have enough time to cook it long
enough for the garlic to mellow, so I left it out. It would have made a good
and traditional addition.



Melba's Jammin' 27-09-2006 11:56 PM

Faking the South of France
 
In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
should i be looking for?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller
http://jamlady.eboard.com

The Cook 28-09-2006 12:00 AM

Faking the South of France
 
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:56:59 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
>Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
>should i be looking for?


May I go with you?
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974

aem 28-09-2006 02:05 AM

Faking the South of France
 

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> should i be looking for?


Bouillabaisse! The fish chowder of the Mediterranean gods. -aem


aem 28-09-2006 02:08 AM

Faking the South of France
 

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> [snips]
> I generously sprinkled the
> sausage-vegetable stew with finely-grated Parmesano-Reggiano cheese, [snip]


I was enthusiastically with you right up to here. No way would I mask
all those great veggie flavors with cheese. De gustibus ..., and all
that. -aem


Christine Dabney 28-09-2006 02:15 AM

Faking the South of France
 
On 27 Sep 2006 18:05:26 -0700, "aem" > wrote:

>
>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>> Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
>> should i be looking for?

>
>Bouillabaisse! The fish chowder of the Mediterranean gods. -aem


Bourride, another awesome fish soup, with aoili a part of it. Also
try aoili, but be aware that it has a LOT of garlic. Of course, most
things do down in that region.

Christine, who is checking out all her cookbooks from Provence.

Mr Libido Incognito 28-09-2006 02:32 AM

Faking the South of France
 
Melba's Jammin' wrote on 27 Sep 2006 in rec.food.cooking

> In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
> Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> should i be looking for?


My guess would be French food.

sf[_4_] 28-09-2006 06:50 AM

Faking the South of France
 
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:56:59 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
>Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
>should i be looking for?


You should be looking for enough food to feed me too because I'll be
hiding in a small carry on. :)) Have fun!

No joke, take your chances... go to local mid priced restaurants and
look at menus to see what appeals - you won't be sorry.

sf[_4_] 28-09-2006 06:52 AM

Faking the South of France
 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:32:25 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito >
wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote on 27 Sep 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> In article >,
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>>
>> Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
>> should i be looking for?

>
>My guess would be French food.


You must be a seasoned international traveler, Mr. Incognito!

:)

Christine Dabney 28-09-2006 07:08 AM

Faking the South of France
 
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:50:18 -0700, sf
> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:56:59 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>>
>>Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
>>should i be looking for?

>


>No joke, take your chances... go to local mid priced restaurants and
>look at menus to see what appeals - you won't be sorry.


Get The Food Lovers Guide to France, by Patricia Wells...she is a
wealth of information.

Christine

Zywicki 28-09-2006 02:02 PM

Faking the South of France
 

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
> Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> should i be looking for?
>

Bread. Bring your jam. I'll bet you can charm the village with a few
jars of the stuff.

Greg Zywicki


Sheldon 28-09-2006 05:42 PM

Faking the South of France
 

Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> "Bob Terwilliger" wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> > should i be looking for?

>
> My guess would be French food.


Actually these days it's mostly muslim coozine.

Sheldon


Victor Sack[_1_] 28-09-2006 10:07 PM

Faking the South of France
 
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> should i be looking for?


Bouillabaisse, bourride (creamy garlic fish soup), daube à la provençale
(beef stew), estouffade à la provençale (lamb stew), pot-au-feu à la
marseillaise, les pieds-paquets à la marseillaise (mutton tripe and
feet), mesclun (mixed salad), tapénade (olive paste with capers).

Bubba

Melba's Jammin' 28-09-2006 10:32 PM

Faking the South of France
 
In article >,
(Victor Sack) wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
> > Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> > should i be looking for?

>
> Bouillabaisse, bourride (creamy garlic fish soup), daube à la provençale
> (beef stew), estouffade à la provençale (lamb stew), pot-au-feu à la
> marseillaise, les pieds-paquets à la marseillaise (mutton tripe and
> feet), mesclun (mixed salad), tapénade (olive paste with capers).
>
> Bubba


Sheepfeet, eh? I'll stick with the bouillabaisse and be sure to write
extensively to Rob about it. I'm going on the cruise alone ‹ with about
1000 other people, I guess.
Thanks, Bubba.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller
http://jamlady.eboard.com

Melba's Jammin' 28-09-2006 10:33 PM

Faking the South of France
 
In article . com>,
"Zywicki" > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> > should i be looking for?
> >

> Bread. Bring your jam. I'll bet you can charm the village with a few
> jars of the stuff.
>
> Greg Zywicki


Heh! The TSA will probably view it with a jaundiced eye!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller
http://jamlady.eboard.com

Melba's Jammin' 28-09-2006 10:34 PM

Faking the South of France
 
In article .com>,
"aem" > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> > should i be looking for?

>
> Bouillabaisse! The fish chowder of the Mediterranean gods. -aem


Ohyeah!! I love it!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller
http://jamlady.eboard.com

Melba's Jammin' 28-09-2006 10:34 PM

Faking the South of France
 
In article >,
The Cook > wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:56:59 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
> >
> >Hmmmm, I'll be in Marseilles in about a month -- what kind of food
> >should i be looking for?

>
> May I go with you?



Sure. Having a roommate will reduce my cost considerably! The upcharge
for a single room is something about $1200.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller
http://jamlady.eboard.com

Victor Sack[_1_] 28-09-2006 10:49 PM

Faking the South of France
 
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> (Victor Sack) wrote:
>
> > Bouillabaisse, bourride (creamy garlic fish soup), daube à la provençale
> > (beef stew), estouffade à la provençale (lamb stew), pot-au-feu à la
> > marseillaise, les pieds-paquets à la marseillaise (mutton tripe and
> > feet), mesclun (mixed salad), tapénade (olive paste with capers).

>
> Sheepfeet, eh? I'll stick with the bouillabaisse and be sure to write
> extensively to Rob about it.


Don't you dare forgo bourride, one of the greatest fish soups of the
world, and one which I would prefer even to bouillabaisse!

For bouillabaisse, consider Restaurant Michel, at 6 rue des Catalans
(7e)...it is considered by some to be the best in Marseille; or the
famous Miramar, at 12 quai du Port (2e). For both bouillabaisse and
bourride, go to l'Epuisette, at 138 Vallon-des-Auffes (7e). All these
restaurants are not inexpensive, I'm afraid... but then good
bouillabaisse and bourride are no longer inexpensive anywhere...

> I'm going on the cruise alone ‹ with about
> 1000 other people, I guess.


You have my sympathy, especially considering that Marseille is not
really worth a visit any more, Vieux Port perhaps excepting.

Bubba

TammyM[_1_] 29-09-2006 04:35 PM

Faking the South of France
 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:49:53 +0200, (Victor Sack)
wrote:

<snip>
>You have my sympathy, especially considering that Marseille is not
>really worth a visit any more, Vieux Port perhaps excepting.


Out of curiosity, why is this so, in your opinion? I've not been
there, but we are planning a trip to France in '08 and plan to spend
some time in the south.

TammyM

ObFood:

Chili Sauce

2 cups canned tomatoes
1 onion, chopped
Dash of cayenne pepper (more!)
1/8 teaspoon cloves
1/8 teaspoon cinnamon
1 tablespoon sugar
1/4 cup vinegar
2 tablespoons chopped green pepper
1/2 teaspoon salt, approximately

Instructions:

In a heavy-bottomed saucepan, combine the tomatoes, onion, cayenne,
cloves, cinnamon, sugar, and vinegar. Simmer, uncovered, for 1 hour.
Add the green pepper and simmer 30 minutes more. Add salt to taste.
Chill before serving.

Yield: 1-1/2 cups



Victor Sack[_1_] 29-09-2006 10:43 PM

Faking the South of France
 
TammyM > wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:49:53 +0200, (Victor Sack)
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >You have my sympathy, especially considering that Marseille is not
> >really worth a visit any more, Vieux Port perhaps excepting.

>
> Out of curiosity, why is this so, in your opinion? I've not been
> there, but we are planning a trip to France in '08 and plan to spend
> some time in the south.


Depends on where you actually want to go... to France or to a noxious
version of Maghreb... Unfortunately, Marseille can no longer be
considered a true French or Provençal city. It is full of North-African
Arab underclass of a particularly unsavoury kind. It is disgustingly
filthy and teeming with beggars, prostitutes, drug dealers and such. It
is a high-crime area and unaccompanied women are liable to get molested
or at the very least hear some lewd comments on a regular basis.

ObFood: Bourride. The recipe is from _Bistro Cooking_ by Patricia
Wells.

Victor

La Bourride de Baudroie Restaurant Lou Marquès
Restaurant Lou Marquès' Monkfish Soup with Garlic Cream

1 pound (500 g) baking potatoes, such as russets, peeled and very thinly
sliced
1 leek (white part only), trimmed, well rinsed, and cut into rounds
1 medium carrot, peeled and cut into rounds
1 garlic clove, finely minced
Grated zest (peel) of 2 oranges
1 fennel bulb, trimmed and thinly sliced crosswise
3 imported bay leaves
2 quarts (2 l) fish stock (see below) or water
1 cup (25 cl) dry white wine, such as Cassis
2 pounds (1 kg) very fresh monkfish, membrane removed and cut crosswise
into 1/2-inch (1.5 cm) slices
1 recipe aïoli (recipe follows)
1 large egg yolk
1/4 cup crème fraîche (6 cl) or heavy cream
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
8 to 12 slices country bread, for garnish

1. Preheat the oven to warm (about 210°F; 100°C). Place a large soup
tureen and 4 to 6 shallow soup bowls in the oven to warm.

2. In a large, heavy-bottomed nonreactive saucepan, combine the
potatoes, leek, carrot, garlic, orange zest, fennel, bay leaves, stock,
and wine. Cover and bring to a boil over high heat. Reduce the heat to
medium-low and simmer until the vegetables are just tender, 12 to 15
minutes. Add the monkfish and cook, skimming frequently, until the fish
is opaque throughout, about 5 minutes. Discard the bay leaves.

3. Meanwhile, in a medium-size bowl, combine 3/4 cup (18 cl) of the
aïoli with the egg yolk and crème fraîche; whisk to blend. Gradually
stir 1/2 cup (12.5 cl) of the hot soup broth into the aïoli mixture.
Over low heat, add the aïoli mixture to the soup. Cook, whisking to
thicken slightly, for 1 or 2 minutes; do not let the soup boil. Season
to taste with the salt and pepper.

4. Toast the bread.

5. To serve, ladle the soup into warmed bowls, making sure everyone
gets some of the fish and an assortment of vegetables. Pass the
remaining aïoli and toasted bread separately.

Yield: 6 servings


Aïoli
Garlic Mayonnaise

6 large fresh garlic cloves
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 large egg yolks, at room temperature
1 cup (25 cl) extra-virgin olive oil

1. Peel and cut the garlic in half, then remove the green, sprout-like
"germ" that runs lengthwise through the center of the garlic.

2. Pour boiling water into a large mortar to warm it; discard the water
and dry the mortar. Place the garlic and salt into the mortar and mash
together evenly with a pestle to form a paste.

3. Add 1 egg yolk. Stir, pressing slowly and evenly with the pestle,
always in the same direction, to thoroughly blend the garlic and yolk.
Add the second yolk and repeat until well blended.

4. Very slowly work in the oil, drop by drop, until the mixture
thickens. Gradually, whisk in the remaining oil in a slow, thin stream
until the sauce is thickened to a mayonnaise consistency.

Yield: About 1 cup (25 cl)


Fumet de Poisson
Fish Stock

5 pounds (2.5 kg) non-oily fish bones, heads, and trimmings (gills
removed), well rinsed and cut up
2 onions, chopped
3 ounces (90 g) fresh mushrooms, washed and thinly sliced
Bouquet garni: 12 parsley stems, 8 peppercorns, 1/2 teaspoon thyme, 1/4
teaspoon fennel seeds, and 1 imported bay leaf tied in a double
thickness of cheesecloth
2 cups (50 cl) dry white wine
1 teaspoon freshly squeezed lemon juice

1. In a large nonreactive stockpot, combine all the ingredients and add
2 quarts (2 l) of cold water. Bring to a simmer, skimming frequently.
Simmer, uncovered, skimming frequently, for 30 minutes.

2. Line a colander with a double layer of dampened cheesecloth and
place the colander over a large bowl. Ladle the stock into the
colander; discard the solids. Measure the fish stock and, if necessary,
boil until it is reduced to 4 cups (1 l).

Yield: 1 quart (1 l)


sf[_4_] 30-09-2006 06:18 AM

Faking the South of France
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:43:07 +0200, (Victor Sack)
wrote:

>Depends on where you actually want to go... to France or to a noxious
>version of Maghreb... Unfortunately, Marseille can no longer be
>considered a true French or Provençal city. It is full of North-African
>Arab underclass of a particularly unsavoury kind.


Welcome to the real world, bud. Calfornia has been in this position
for decades.

TammyM[_1_] 30-09-2006 04:48 PM

Faking the South of France
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:43:07 +0200, (Victor Sack)
wrote:

>TammyM > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:49:53 +0200,
(Victor Sack)
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> >You have my sympathy, especially considering that Marseille is not
>> >really worth a visit any more, Vieux Port perhaps excepting.

>>
>> Out of curiosity, why is this so, in your opinion? I've not been
>> there, but we are planning a trip to France in '08 and plan to spend
>> some time in the south.

>
>Depends on where you actually want to go... to France or to a noxious
>version of Maghreb... Unfortunately, Marseille can no longer be
>considered a true French or Provençal city. It is full of North-African
>Arab underclass of a particularly unsavoury kind. It is disgustingly
>filthy and teeming with beggars, prostitutes, drug dealers and such. It
>is a high-crime area and unaccompanied women are liable to get molested
>or at the very least hear some lewd comments on a regular basis.


How terribly sad, Victor

>ObFood: Bourride. The recipe is from _Bistro Cooking_ by Patricia
>Wells.

<recipe snipped>

Oh MY, this sounds wonderful! I suspect this will be on one of my
menus in the very near future, thanks so much.

TammyM


aem 30-09-2006 06:27 PM

Faking the South of France
 
sf wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:43:07 +0200, (Victor Sack)
> wrote:
>
> >Depends on where you actually want to go... to France or to a noxious
> >version of Maghreb... Unfortunately, Marseille can no longer be
> >considered a true French or Provençal city. It is full of North-African
> >Arab underclass of a particularly unsavoury kind.

>
> Welcome to the real world, bud. Calfornia has been in this position
> for decades.


What a strange thing to say. Of the scores of significant immigrant
groups in California, North-African Arabs must be pretty far down the
list. According to the 2000 census, about 0.005 of the population of
California is of Arab descent or origin, of which the largest groups
are from Syria and Lebanon. Egypt accounts for less than 0.0001 of the
population. You must be very sensitive to the presence of the
North-African Arab underclass.

Or did you mean that California hasn't been considered truly French for
decades? -aem


[email protected] 30-09-2006 08:10 PM

Faking the South of France
 
On 30 Sep 2006 10:27:35 -0700, "aem" > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:43:07 +0200, (Victor Sack)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Depends on where you actually want to go... to France or to a noxious
>> >version of Maghreb... Unfortunately, Marseille can no longer be
>> >considered a true French or Provençal city. It is full of North-African
>> >Arab underclass of a particularly unsavoury kind.

>>
>> Welcome to the real world, bud. Calfornia has been in this position
>> for decades.

>
>What a strange thing to say. Of the scores of significant immigrant
>groups in California, North-African Arabs must be pretty far down the
>list. According to the 2000 census, about 0.005 of the population of
>California is of Arab descent or origin, of which the largest groups
>are from Syria and Lebanon. Egypt accounts for less than 0.0001 of the
>population. You must be very sensitive to the presence of the
>North-African Arab underclass.
>
>Or did you mean that California hasn't been considered truly French for
>decades? -aem


Are you actually that stupid or just acting stupid to entertain
yourself?

Zywicki 02-10-2006 04:02 PM

Faking the South of France
 

Victor Sack wrote:
> Depends on where you actually want to go... to France or to a noxious
> version of Maghreb...It is disgustingly
> filthy and teeming with beggars, prostitutes, drug dealers and such. It
> is a high-crime area and unaccompanied women are liable to get molested
> or at the very least hear some lewd comments on a regular basis.
>


So it's more like France a century or two ago? According to some
literature.

Greg Zywicki
Or, supposedly, Italy twenty or so years ago.



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