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Nancy Young 14-09-2006 06:14 PM

Pepper mill
 
I don't know what the problem is, I've been having pepper mill
problems. I broke my pepper mill and the couple I've bought
since then should be called pepper crackers.

I don't want or need a super fine grind, but I do expect the
thing to do more than crack the pepper corns in half.

It's been discussed to death, my next attempt will most likely
be one of those turkish jobbers, I'll google the threads and see
what to get when I feel like tackling that again.

So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

nancy



JoeSpareBedroom 14-09-2006 06:19 PM

Pepper mill
 
"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>I don't know what the problem is, I've been having pepper mill
> problems. I broke my pepper mill and the couple I've bought
> since then should be called pepper crackers.
>
> I don't want or need a super fine grind, but I do expect the
> thing to do more than crack the pepper corns in half.
>
> It's been discussed to death, my next attempt will most likely
> be one of those turkish jobbers, I'll google the threads and see
> what to get when I feel like tackling that again.
>
> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.
>
> nancy
>


Wouldn't it be great if there was someone you could write to and complain
about your broken pepper mill? But, the company probably consists of four
people who rent a warehouse. All they do is transfer the pepper mills from a
bulk shipping box from China, into fancier packaging for American consumers.



Nancy Young 14-09-2006 06:29 PM

Pepper mill
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
>> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
>> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
>> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.


> Wouldn't it be great if there was someone you could write to and complain
> about your broken pepper mill? But, the company probably consists of four
> people who rent a warehouse. All they do is transfer the pepper mills from
> a bulk shipping box from China, into fancier packaging for American
> consumers.


(laugh!) You're absolutely right. On all counts.

nancy



Sheldon 14-09-2006 06:44 PM

Pepper mill
 

Nancy Young wrote:
> I don't know what the problem is, I've been having pepper mill
> problems. I broke my pepper mill and the couple I've bought
> since then should be called pepper crackers.
>
> I don't want or need a super fine grind, but I do expect the
> thing to do more than crack the pepper corns in half.
>
> It's been discussed to death, my next attempt will most likely
> be one of those turkish jobbers, I'll google the threads and see
> what to get when I feel like tackling that again.
>
> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.
>
> nancy


Get the big brass one... you will not be disappointed:
http://www.chefscatalog.com/catalog/...all&item=93860

It will be the last pepper mill you buy, and Chef's Catalog has the
best price. The big brass one is much heavier and is a larger diameter
than the smaller ones with the little flanged base so it will not tip
over very easily. I never leave mine standing erect at the table
anyway, the male dinner guest get intimidated (hehe), just lie it down.
It's so easy to operate that the gals don't need any assistance from
the guys, and the gals kinda enjoy wrapping their fists around that
girth while pumping that big thing. <g>

Sheldon


OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 07:02 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> I don't know what the problem is, I've been having pepper mill
> problems. I broke my pepper mill and the couple I've bought
> since then should be called pepper crackers.
>
> I don't want or need a super fine grind, but I do expect the
> thing to do more than crack the pepper corns in half.
>
> It's been discussed to death, my next attempt will most likely
> be one of those turkish jobbers, I'll google the threads and see
> what to get when I feel like tackling that again.
>
> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.
>
> nancy


<rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they pay
for!

Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black and
green. ;-d
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 07:03 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

>
> > Wouldn't it be great if there was someone you could write to and complain
> > about your broken pepper mill? But, the company probably consists of four
> > people who rent a warehouse. All they do is transfer the pepper mills from
> > a bulk shipping box from China, into fancier packaging for American
> > consumers.

>
> (laugh!) You're absolutely right. On all counts.
>
> nancy


Nah! He's just being cynical...

NOT! <lol>
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

Nancy Young 14-09-2006 07:04 PM

Pepper mill
 

"Sheldon" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:


>> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
>> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
>> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
>> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.


> Get the big brass one... you will not be disappointed:


> It will be the last pepper mill you buy, and Chef's Catalog has the
> best price. The big brass one is much heavier and is a larger diameter
> than the smaller ones with the little flanged base so it will not tip
> over very easily. I never leave mine standing erect at the table
> anyway, the male dinner guest get intimidated (hehe), just lie it down.
> It's so easy to operate that the gals don't need any assistance from
> the guys, and the gals kinda enjoy wrapping their fists around that
> girth while pumping that big thing. <g>


(laugh) I do have lust in my heart for the copper one. I'm bookmarking
it, thanks for the link. That is most likely what I will get. I wish they
were shorter to fit in the cabinet I'd like.

nancy



Nancy Young 14-09-2006 07:11 PM

Pepper mill
 

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:


>> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
>> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
>> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
>> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.


> <rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
> When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they pay
> for!
>
> Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black and
> green. ;-d


I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
will last as long as the peppercorns.

nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)



OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 07:13 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Sheldon" > wrote
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:

>
> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

>
> > Get the big brass one... you will not be disappointed:

>
> > It will be the last pepper mill you buy, and Chef's Catalog has the
> > best price. The big brass one is much heavier and is a larger diameter
> > than the smaller ones with the little flanged base so it will not tip
> > over very easily. I never leave mine standing erect at the table
> > anyway, the male dinner guest get intimidated (hehe), just lie it down.
> > It's so easy to operate that the gals don't need any assistance from
> > the guys, and the gals kinda enjoy wrapping their fists around that
> > girth while pumping that big thing. <g>

>
> (laugh) I do have lust in my heart for the copper one. I'm bookmarking
> it, thanks for the link. That is most likely what I will get. I wish they
> were shorter to fit in the cabinet I'd like.
>
> nancy


But bigger is better... Didn't you know that?

<cough>

%-D
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

Nancy Young 14-09-2006 07:15 PM

Pepper mill
 

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:


>> (laugh) I do have lust in my heart for the copper one. I'm bookmarking
>> it, thanks for the link. That is most likely what I will get. I wish
>> they
>> were shorter to fit in the cabinet I'd like.


> But bigger is better... Didn't you know that?


But 6" just fits better!

nancy



OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 07:22 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

>
> > <rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
> > When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they pay
> > for!
> >
> > Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black and
> > green. ;-d

>
> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
> will last as long as the peppercorns.


One can only hope. ;-) I just adore multi-color peppercorns. IMHO there
is a much richer flavor in the mix.

>
> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)


Oh gods. I've not eaten those wonderful things in years! :-)
Good score!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

Peter A 14-09-2006 07:32 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
says...
> I don't know what the problem is, I've been having pepper mill
> problems. I broke my pepper mill and the couple I've bought
> since then should be called pepper crackers.
>
> I don't want or need a super fine grind, but I do expect the
> thing to do more than crack the pepper corns in half.
>
> It's been discussed to death, my next attempt will most likely
> be one of those turkish jobbers, I'll google the threads and see
> what to get when I feel like tackling that again.
>


Nay, getteth thee thou a Magnum Pepper Mill, made by Unicorn
(
www.unicornmills.com). It was top-rated by Cooks Illustrated and a
couple of years ago I bought one for myself and several for gifts. It
grinds from fine to coarse, holds a lot, rarely needs adjustment, and
grinds fast - a good thing when you want to coat 4 steaks with a layer
of pepper. The people I gave them to all love it.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Jke 14-09-2006 07:37 PM

Pepper mill
 
if you ever have the opportunity to buy one from Ikea: II can recommend
theirs. The inside frinding things is made from ceramic and works like a
charm. Cheap, too. Next time I'm at Ikea, I'll get a few extra mills, for
serveral spices that I'd like to grind.



OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 07:38 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
> >> (laugh) I do have lust in my heart for the copper one. I'm bookmarking
> >> it, thanks for the link. That is most likely what I will get. I wish
> >> they
> >> were shorter to fit in the cabinet I'd like.

>
> > But bigger is better... Didn't you know that?

>
> But 6" just fits better!
>
> nancy


<snork> %-D
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

Nancy Young 14-09-2006 07:44 PM

Pepper mill
 

"Peter A" > wrote

> Nay, getteth thee thou a Magnum Pepper Mill, made by Unicorn
> (www.unicornmills.com). It was top-rated by Cooks Illustrated and a
> couple of years ago I bought one for myself and several for gifts. It
> grinds from fine to coarse, holds a lot, rarely needs adjustment, and
> grinds fast - a good thing when you want to coat 4 steaks with a layer
> of pepper. The people I gave them to all love it.


And it adjusts easily from fine to coarse? As in, really does, not just
says it does?

nancy



Sheldon 14-09-2006 08:14 PM

Pepper mill
 

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:

>
> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

>
> > Get the big brass one... you will not be disappointed:

>
> > It will be the last pepper mill you buy, and Chef's Catalog has the
> > best price. The big brass one is much heavier and is a larger diameter
> > than the smaller ones with the little flanged base so it will not tip
> > over very easily. I never leave mine standing erect at the table
> > anyway, the male dinner guest get intimidated (hehe), just lie it down.
> > It's so easy to operate that the gals don't need any assistance from
> > the guys, and the gals kinda enjoy wrapping their fists around that
> > girth while pumping that big thing. <g>

>
> (laugh) I do have lust in my heart for the copper one.


Lust, eh... hmm, for a peppery hot good time I suppose one could fit
it with a couple D cells. hehe

>I'm bookmarking
> it, thanks for the link. That is most likely what I will get. I wish they
> were shorter to fit in the cabinet I'd like.


You can always lay them on their sides. They have a tightly fitted cap
at the bottom so they won't leak pepper grinds in cabinets or on table
linen... I keep my other pepper mills in a kitchen cabinet lined up in
a small baking pan just to prevent litter from grinds, and when served
at table I set them on a small saucer (actually one of those small
Asian dipping sauce dishes).

Sheldon Burr


timbrel 14-09-2006 08:17 PM

Pepper mill
 

Nancy Young wrote:
> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

>
> > <rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
> > When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they pay
> > for!
> >
> > Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black and
> > green. ;-d

>
> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
> will last as long as the peppercorns.
>
> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)


And I think that the four color combination has no fragrance or flavor.
I love Tellicherry! Each to his own as they say

Bliss


Peter A 14-09-2006 08:23 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
says...
>
> "Peter A" > wrote
>
> > Nay, getteth thee thou a Magnum Pepper Mill, made by Unicorn
> > (
www.unicornmills.com). It was top-rated by Cooks Illustrated and a
> > couple of years ago I bought one for myself and several for gifts. It
> > grinds from fine to coarse, holds a lot, rarely needs adjustment, and
> > grinds fast - a good thing when you want to coat 4 steaks with a layer
> > of pepper. The people I gave them to all love it.

>
> And it adjusts easily from fine to coarse? As in, really does, not just
> says it does?
>
> nancy
>
>
>


Yes - it's got a small knurled nut on the bottom that you tighten or
loosen.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

itsjoannotjoann 14-09-2006 08:25 PM

Pepper mill
 

Sheldon wrote:

> Get the big brass one... you will not be disappointed:
> http://www.chefscatalog.com/catalog/...all&item=93860
>
> It will be the last pepper mill you buy, and Chef's Catalog has the
> best price. The big brass one is much heavier and is a larger diameter
> than the smaller ones with the little flanged base so it will not tip
> over very easily. I never leave mine standing erect at the table
> anyway, the male dinner guest get intimidated (hehe), just lie it down.
> It's so easy to operate that the gals don't need any assistance from
> the guys, and the gals kinda enjoy wrapping their fists around that
> girth while pumping that big thing. <g>
>
> Sheldon



Ok, here's a whiney question about those pepper mills from chefs
catalog. Do the brass and copper have to be polished to keep their
shine? Last thing I want is something to polish in the kitchen.


JoeSpareBedroom 14-09-2006 08:31 PM

Pepper mill
 
"timbrel" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote
>>
>> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>>
>> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
>> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
>> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
>> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.

>>
>> > <rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
>> > When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they pay
>> > for!
>> >
>> > Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black
>> > and
>> > green. ;-d

>>
>> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
>> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
>> will last as long as the peppercorns.
>>
>> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)

>
> And I think that the four color combination has no fragrance or flavor.
> I love Tellicherry! Each to his own as they say
>
> Bliss
>


No fragrance or flavor? Is it possible you've had a stroke recently?



Nancy Young 14-09-2006 08:34 PM

Pepper mill
 

"Peter A" > wrote

> In article >,
> says...


>> And it adjusts easily from fine to coarse? As in, really does, not just
>> says it does?


> Yes - it's got a small knurled nut on the bottom that you tighten or
> loosen.


Thanks. nancy



notbob 14-09-2006 08:34 PM

Pepper mill
 
On 2006-09-14, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:

> Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black and
> green. ;-d


Yeah, those are great. You get some nice floral accents with the
undried colored berries. I keep both on hand. I've also tried the sea
salt one, but am not impressed.

nb

OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 08:39 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "timbrel" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >
> > Nancy Young wrote:
> >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote
> >>
> >> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> >> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> >> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> >> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.
> >>
> >> > <rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
> >> > When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they pay
> >> > for!
> >> >
> >> > Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black
> >> > and
> >> > green. ;-d
> >>
> >> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
> >> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
> >> will last as long as the peppercorns.
> >>
> >> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)

> >
> > And I think that the four color combination has no fragrance or flavor.
> > I love Tellicherry! Each to his own as they say
> >
> > Bliss
> >

>
> No fragrance or flavor? Is it possible you've had a stroke recently?


Or just different Genetics......... ;-D
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

notbob 14-09-2006 08:41 PM

Pepper mill
 
On 2006-09-14, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:

> catalog. Do the brass and copper have to be polished to keep their
> shine? Last thing I want is something to polish in the kitchen.


Well then, avoid like the plague! Those nice Turkish grinders are
real brass and need real elbow grease to keep real shiny. I took
apart my brass grinder to polish it up and then discovered those darn
McComack's grinders. I'm sure I'll get my brass one shined up and
back together eventually. ;)

nb

OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 08:42 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2006-09-14, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:
>
> > Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black and
> > green. ;-d

>
> Yeah, those are great. You get some nice floral accents with the
> undried colored berries. I keep both on hand. I've also tried the sea
> salt one, but am not impressed.
>
> nb


Never seen nor tried a mixed salt/pepper combo?????

When I can get it, I use "Real Salt" brand of salt.
It's granulated tho' and is ready to use.

It's heavy in trace minerals and I do find it to have a slightly sweet
flavor to it:

http://www.realsalt.com/

I get it at Sun Harvest.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

JoeSpareBedroom 14-09-2006 08:45 PM

Pepper mill
 

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "timbrel" > wrote in message
>> ps.com...
>> >
>> > Nancy Young wrote:
>> >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote
>> >>
>> >> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
>> >> >> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
>> >> >> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
>> >> >> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.
>> >>
>> >> > <rofl> I feel your pain..... ;-)
>> >> > When it comes to cooking gadgets, one does not always get what they
>> >> > pay
>> >> > for!
>> >> >
>> >> > Try some four color gourmet peppercorns. The mixed red, white, black
>> >> > and
>> >> > green. ;-d
>> >>
>> >> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
>> >> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
>> >> will last as long as the peppercorns.
>> >>
>> >> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)
>> >
>> > And I think that the four color combination has no fragrance or flavor.
>> > I love Tellicherry! Each to his own as they say
>> >
>> > Bliss
>> >

>>
>> No fragrance or flavor? Is it possible you've had a stroke recently?

>
> Or just different Genetics......... ;-D


Oh please....the only other possible explanation is a permanent cold, or
his/her pepper is so old that it's lost all physical qualities except weight
& size.



Sheldon 14-09-2006 08:47 PM

Pepper mill
 

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > Get the big brass one... you will not be disappointed:
> > http://www.chefscatalog.com/catalog/...all&item=93860
> >
> > It will be the last pepper mill you buy.

>
> Ok, here's a whiney question about those pepper mills from chefs
> catalog. Do the brass and copper have to be polished to keep their
> shine? Last thing I want is something to polish in the kitchen.


All brass/copper needs polishing to be shiny. When new they are
treated to inhibit tarnish but with use the treatment stuff wears off.
I don't mind the 'weathered' look, in fact I prefer the patina that
develops.

Sheldon


OmManiPadmeOmelet[_5_] 14-09-2006 08:50 PM

Pepper mill
 
In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> >> > And I think that the four color combination has no fragrance or flavor.
> >> > I love Tellicherry! Each to his own as they say
> >> >
> >> > Bliss
> >> >
> >>
> >> No fragrance or flavor? Is it possible you've had a stroke recently?

> >
> > Or just different Genetics......... ;-D

>
> Oh please....the only other possible explanation is a permanent cold, or
> his/her pepper is so old that it's lost all physical qualities except weight
> & size.


Old pepper... I'd go with that one.

I love the 4 color pepper, and this is the very first time I've ever
read of anyone that was unable to taste the difference.

It's.......

weird.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

JoeSpareBedroom 14-09-2006 08:58 PM

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> >> > And I think that the four color combination has no fragrance or
>> >> > flavor.
>> >> > I love Tellicherry! Each to his own as they say
>> >> >
>> >> > Bliss
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> No fragrance or flavor? Is it possible you've had a stroke recently?
>> >
>> > Or just different Genetics......... ;-D

>>
>> Oh please....the only other possible explanation is a permanent cold, or
>> his/her pepper is so old that it's lost all physical qualities except
>> weight
>> & size.

>
> Old pepper... I'd go with that one.
>
> I love the 4 color pepper, and this is the very first time I've ever
> read of anyone that was unable to taste the difference.
>
> It's.......
>
> weird.
> --
> Peace!
> Om


Somewhat related: After the last presidential election, an NPR reporter
wandered around Columbia University, asking first time voters how they chose
who to vote for. One girl said "Kerry & Bush seemed the same to me, so I
voted for Bush 'cause he has cute ears".



Puester 14-09-2006 10:45 PM

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Nancy Young wrote:
> I don't know what the problem is, I've been having pepper mill
> problems. I broke my pepper mill and the couple I've bought
> since then should be called pepper crackers.
>
> I don't want or need a super fine grind, but I do expect the
> thing to do more than crack the pepper corns in half.
>



I've been pretty happy with Penzey's Zassen-whatsis except that I have
the bigger one and it still needs to be filled quite often. I guess
that means we use more pepper than average.

>
> So, today I bought one of those McCormack pepper grinders.
> Makes me laugh, it works just fine. Friggin disposable grinder
> does the job better than the other, supposedly adjustbable, ones
> I paid good money for. $1.59, peppercorns included.
>



I have one of those, too, and it works great. I haven't figured out how
to removed the cover to refill it. (No screw threads on it.)

gloria p

BOB[_1_] 14-09-2006 11:37 PM

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Nancy Young typed:
> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the
> grinder
> will last as long as the peppercorns.

Yes. I've even refilled one, once. It lasted about half way through
the re-fill.

>
> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)

Huh? What's that? I'm thinking I *might* know them by another name.
Maybe not.

BOB




Nancy Young 14-09-2006 11:47 PM

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" BOB" > wrote

> Nancy Young typed:
>> I was surprised (being that I am a snob) to see that the McCormick
>> does come in the 4 color, as well as the black. Wonder if the grinder
>> will last as long as the peppercorns.


> Yes. I've even refilled one, once. It lasted about half way through the
> re-fill.


Huh, that's funny. It says in it, do not refill. I can think of a couple
reasons why.

>> nancy (also scored 2 boxes of Mallomars for 99 cents)


> Huh? What's that? I'm thinking I *might* know them by another name.
> Maybe not.


It's just some cookie thing, mostly marshmallow on a base, all
coated in chocolate. I didn't grow up with them, but people do
seem to have a thing for them.

http://images.google.com/images?svnu...en&q=mallomars

99 cents is a steal, and I found they only charged me for one and I got
2. No, I am not driving all the way back there to give them their dollar.

nancy



notbob 14-09-2006 11:47 PM

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On 2006-09-14, Puester > wrote:
>
> I've been pretty happy with Penzey's Zassen-whatsis except that I have


I wasn't aware Zassenhaus made spice grinders. Based on my experience
with their awesome coffee grinders, I'd have to recommend a Zazzy
spice grinder sight unseen without reservation. I'll probably get one
for white pepper. You may want to act quickly. Zazzy coffee grinders
have been unavailable for over a year now, with no relief in sight.
So, their spice grinder availability may be dwindling also (Penzey's
website hints as much). Also, the price is great. Those brass
Turkish pepper grinders are nothing more than modified coffee grinders
and they want $80-100 for them. I'm sure the Zazzy has a superior
burr set.

nb

Nancy Young 15-09-2006 12:02 AM

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"notbob" > wrote

> On 2006-09-14, Puester > wrote:
>>
>> I've been pretty happy with Penzey's Zassen-whatsis except that I have

>
> I wasn't aware Zassenhaus made spice grinders. Based on my experience
> with their awesome coffee grinders, I'd have to recommend a Zazzy
> spice grinder sight unseen without reservation.


I had the one from Penzeys, that's the one I broke. Like Gloria,
I was forever refilling it. What is with that Z company, I saw some
website that hasn't been able to get any for a long time.

nancy



elaine 15-09-2006 12:06 AM

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notbob" > wrote in message
. ..
> On 2006-09-14, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
>> catalog. Do the brass and copper have to be polished to keep their
>> shine? Last thing I want is something to polish in the kitchen.


I had something polish in my kitchen.

Avoid at all costs!

E.



notbob 15-09-2006 12:19 AM

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On 2006-09-14, Nancy Young > wrote:

> I was forever refilling it. What is with that Z company, I saw some
> website that hasn't been able to get any for a long time.


All of them. Look for yourself. No one seems to know what the
problem is. They are starting to go for "new" or higher prices on
ebay.

nb

Sheldon 15-09-2006 12:29 AM

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notbob wrote:
> Puester wrote:
> >
> > I've been pretty happy with Penzey's Zassen-whatsis except that I have

>
> I wasn't aware Zassenhaus made spice grinders. Based on my experience
> with their awesome coffee grinders, I'd have to recommend a Zazzy
> spice grinder sight unseen without reservation. I'll probably get one
> for white pepper. You may want to act quickly. Zazzy coffee grinders
> have been unavailable for over a year now, with no relief in sight.
> So, their spice grinder availability may be dwindling also (Penzey's
> website hints as much). Also, the price is great.
>
>Those brass
> Turkish pepper grinders are nothing more than modified coffee grinders


Nothing is modified, they grind coffee beans and peppercorns equally
well.

> and they want $80-100 for them.


You exaggerate... the biggest Turkish grinders are about $55. Penzeys
large Zass grinder is $40. The Zass grinder is about 1/20 the capacity
of the Turkish grinder and 1/20 the quality.... a cheap chunk of wood
with chintzy pot metal and plastic parts... the plastic retaining ring
on mine falls out every time the humidity drops becaue the wood
shrinks. The zass burrs are miniscule... Penzeys get around this fact
by telling folks how the larger peppercorns wont fit through (they clog
up the works) so they say that's a way to cull out the better big
peppercorns... what claptrap.

> I'm sure the Zazzy has a superior burr set.


Hardly.

Sheldon


[email protected] 15-09-2006 01:08 AM

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Peter A wrote:


> Nay, getteth thee thou a Magnum Pepper Mill, made by Unicorn
> (www.unicornmills.com). .htm


Any comments on their travel minimill ? thanks


Reg[_1_] 15-09-2006 01:21 AM

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Peter A wrote:


> Nay, getteth thee thou a Magnum Pepper Mill, made by Unicorn
> (www.unicornmills.com). It was top-rated by Cooks Illustrated and a
> couple of years ago I bought one for myself and several for gifts. It
> grinds from fine to coarse, holds a lot, rarely needs adjustment, and
> grinds fast - a good thing when you want to coat 4 steaks with a layer
> of pepper. The people I gave them to all love it.
>


Just ordered one. Thanks for the tip.

--
Reg


notbob 15-09-2006 01:22 AM

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On 2006-09-14, Sheldon > wrote:

> Nothing is modified, they grind coffee beans and peppercorns equally
> well.


Atlas modified them by removing the traditional container cup and
putting on a bell shaped ring so they would stand upright without the
cup. These were the first to hit the general market back when Jeff
the Perv started mentioning them on his cooking show. The cheapest
model available was $75.

> You exaggerate... the biggest Turkish grinders are about $55.


I didn't elaborate, but one can find them now for even less. I have
one I paid only $39 for. Good burrs, but it does not have a threaded
grind adjustment, using instead a difficult and imprecise slide
adjustment held by a hex head set screw. It also has no table stand
ring. You want niceties, you pay for them.

> The Zass grinder is about 1/20 the capacity
> of the Turkish grinder and 1/20 the quality.... a cheap chunk of wood
> with chintzy pot metal and plastic parts...


Sorry to hear it. Perhaps that's part of the current availability
problem. Zazzy went cheapo and lost it's customer base. The good ol'
Zazzy coffee mills were of excellent quality. My birch knee mill has
machined and hardened steel conical burrs in a glued and dovetail
jointed hardwood box. It's a precision tool and grinds better than my
$200 electric Ibiteral espresso grinder. It would be a shame if
Zazzy's coffee mills went down the crapper.

nb


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