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"All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
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> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi



Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do anything
wise in this world.
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> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:22:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi

>>
>>
>>Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>anything
>>wise in this world.
>>~Helen Keller

>
> Blast it all -- the invitations for the Pity Party already went out!
> Now what?! I guess I'll have to re-work the *menu* and come up with
> different *food* to serve at the new Anti-Pity Party! What kind of
> *diabetic* friendly *food* would you suggest? :-D
>
> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>
> A lame attempt, I know, to bring diabetic food into the thread. :-D


Please stop trying to push your low carb food on me!!! Damnit, I don't like
anything, never have liked anything, and never will like anything! It's all
disgusting and it makes me gag. ;-)

Cheri

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On 1/4/2012 12:52 PM, Susan wrote:
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>> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>>
>> A lame attempt, I know, to bring diabetic food into the thread. :-D

>
> Very, but amusing nonetheless.
>
> Susan



i grinned at the choice of Deviled Eggs

(btw, they are a favourite of mine, too)

no PPP here! (Pithy Pity Party) but, if we go that way, all those foods
that are P foods are usually not so good for us

*izza
*otatoes
*retzels

(it's a long standing joke in chat)
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Come on Evelyn, two things here. One, the subject line is very
inflammatory and two, why are you psychoanalysing another person?

"Evelyn" > wrote in message
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> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
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>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>> get
>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>> it
>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi

>
>
> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
> anything wise in this world.
> ~Helen Keller


This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.

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> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:22:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>> get
>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>> it
>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi

>>
>>
>>Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>anything
>>wise in this world.
>>~Helen Keller

>
> Blast it all -- the invitations for the Pity Party already went out!
> Now what?! I guess I'll have to re-work the *menu* and come up with
> different *food* to serve at the new Anti-Pity Party! What kind of
> *diabetic* friendly *food* would you suggest? :-D
>
> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>


And yet another, what has happened to good decent people.

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> On 1/4/2012 12:52 PM, Susan wrote:
>>>
>>> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>>>
>>> A lame attempt, I know, to bring diabetic food into the thread. :-D

>>
>> Very, but amusing nonetheless.
>>
>> Susan

>
>
> i grinned at the choice of Deviled Eggs
>
> (btw, they are a favourite of mine, too)
>
> no PPP here! (Pithy Pity Party) but, if we go that way, all those
> foods that are P foods are usually not so good for us
>
> *izza
> *otatoes
> *retzels
>
> (it's a long standing joke in chat)


kate, this is so not you. You have always been a humanitarian, please
don't get involved in this shameful stuff
You have no idea how much this saddens me as I know you very, very well.

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Evelyn > wrote:
> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi


Excellent, Evie!

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On 1/4/2012 5:19 PM, Ozgirl wrote:
> kate, this is so not you. You have always been a humanitarian, please
> don't get involved in this shameful stuff
> You have no idea how much this saddens me as I know you very, very well.


Jan, you have always been a kind and gentle soul in the time i have
known you. I highly respect you (which i hope you KNOW full well). I
have chosen to step away from our resident individual in question,
clearly ANY response will cause outrage and more from her. I don't need
that. You don't need that. Wait, NO ONE needs that.

May i publicly apologize to everyone on the various newsgroups for
engaging in the manner i have. ABC was easy to remove. This shall be done.

kate (still highly frustrated, but eh, that's life)


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On 05 Jan 2012 00:44:19 GMT, Nick Cramer >
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>Evelyn > wrote:
>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi

>
>Excellent, Evie!



Thank you. I collect wisdom quotes like this. I find that Ramana
Maharshi has left a treasure trove of them.

Evelyn
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"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi

>>
>>
>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>> anything wise in this world.
>> ~Helen Keller

>
> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.



No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that way
every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD that
Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
yourself before taking others to task.

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"Tiger Lily" > wrote in message
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> On 1/4/2012 5:19 PM, Ozgirl wrote:
>> kate, this is so not you. You have always been a humanitarian, please
>> don't get involved in this shameful stuff
>> You have no idea how much this saddens me as I know you very, very
>> well.

>
> Jan, you have always been a kind and gentle soul in the time i have
> known you. I highly respect you (which i hope you KNOW full well). I
> have chosen to step away from our resident individual in question,
> clearly ANY response will cause outrage and more from her. I don't
> need that. You don't need that. Wait, NO ONE needs that.
>
> May i publicly apologize to everyone on the various newsgroups for
> engaging in the manner i have. ABC was easy to remove. This shall be
> done.
>
> kate (still highly frustrated, but eh, that's life)


I understand frustration Kate, truly I do. If the armchair
psychoanalysts think Julie has mental health problems then I have to
question their attitude to that mental health problem. Whether it is a
mental health condition for say alcohol or substance addiction or any
other type of mental health condition I fail to see why someone should
be treated this way. For as long as I have known you you have always
been the one to jump in first with compassion for people with problems
involving mental health. You have a wonderful caring nature and you have
helped me and many others countless times. I have always been proud of
you and I am proud of you now for acknowledging the fact that you need
to step away from Julie. I think you will feel better for doing so. You
don't need frustration with your current health issues that you are
worrying about. Letting go can mean a new freedom, for anyone. xx

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>> get
>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>> it
>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>
>>>
>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>> anything wise in this world.
>>> ~Helen Keller

>>
>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.

>
>
> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
> good look at yourself before taking others to task.


Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
of many shown towards Julie.

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On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>> get
>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>> it
>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>
>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.

>>
>>
>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.

>
>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>of many shown towards Julie.



NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
any means!

I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!

Peace!

Evelyn


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> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>
> Peace!
>
> Evelyn


Peace to you too Evelyn xx

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>
>>>
>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>> anything wise in this world.
>>> ~Helen Keller

>>
>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.

>
>
> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
> yourself before taking others to task.


AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are quite
a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say they
don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken? I
don't get it. I really don't.

And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to have
been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.


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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>
>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>
>>>
>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.

>>
>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>of many shown towards Julie.

>
>
> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
> any means!
>
> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>
> Peace!


And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here to
be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!


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> "BlueBrooke" > wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:22:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
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>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>
>>>
>>>Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>anything
>>>wise in this world.
>>>~Helen Keller

>>
>> Blast it all -- the invitations for the Pity Party already went out!
>> Now what?! I guess I'll have to re-work the *menu* and come up with
>> different *food* to serve at the new Anti-Pity Party! What kind of
>> *diabetic* friendly *food* would you suggest? :-D
>>
>> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>>

>
> And yet another, what has happened to good decent people.


I am very thankful that I have never encountered such people in my real
life. But I wonder... Do they walk about talking to others like this? I
hope not.

As for me... If someone did in real life talk to me or about me so that I
could hear it, I most likely would tell them to FOAD, or something similar
but a bit toned down if there were children present. I'm nobody's doormat.


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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>
>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>
>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>>of many shown towards Julie.

>>
>>
>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
>> any means!
>>
>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>
>> Peace!

>
>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here to
>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!



Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
the answer to all of those questions is "no".

We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
made some effort to smooth it all over.

That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.

Evelyn


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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human
>>>>>> being is
>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>>>>> Susan
>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you
>>>>> about
>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher,
>>>>> take a
>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>
>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks
>>>>at
>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know
>>>>the
>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the
>>>>behaviour
>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>
>>>
>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There
>>> is
>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice
>>> by
>>> any means!
>>>
>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>
>>> Peace!

>>
>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not
>>here to
>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem
>>to
>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!

>
>
> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>
> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>
> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.


Word of wisdom Evelyn and I totally agree.

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>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>
>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.

>>
>>
>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
>> yourself before taking others to task.

>
>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are quite
>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say they
>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken? I
>don't get it. I really don't.
>
>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to have
>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.



For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.

On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
plastic containing carcinogens.

In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>
>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>
>>>
>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
>>> any means!
>>>
>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>
>>> Peace!

>>
>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here to
>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!

>
>
> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>

Perhaps as a Buddhist you are here to bring peace. I am not.

Did their attacks help me? No. In fact I *still* don't know which post was
the post that was supposed to be helpful to me. That is how this all
started. Robert Miles left me a vague message and pinged me about it. He
didn't tell me specifically which one it was. And when I said I couldn't
find a post that was helpful to me, instead of someone pointing out where or
what this post was, they just started attacking me and telling me I was
ungrateful!

> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>
> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.


Or I may just leave. Because this has become a very unpleasant place to be.


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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>
>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>
>>>
>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
>>> at
>>> yourself before taking others to task.

>>
>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>quite
>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>they
>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
>>I
>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>
>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
>>have
>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.

>
>
> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>
> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
> plastic containing carcinogens.
>

I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no problems
with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in this
country/

> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.


Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch Food
Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
canned and boxed broths.

I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for not
liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like something.
And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she didn't
say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
sure pipe right up and call me out on it.


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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:57:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
>>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
>>>> any means!
>>>>
>>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>>
>>>> Peace!
>>>
>>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here to
>>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
>>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!

>>
>>
>> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
>> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
>> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
>> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
>> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>>

>Perhaps as a Buddhist you are here to bring peace. I am not.
>
>Did their attacks help me? No. In fact I *still* don't know which post was
>the post that was supposed to be helpful to me. That is how this all
>started. Robert Miles left me a vague message and pinged me about it. He
>didn't tell me specifically which one it was. And when I said I couldn't
>find a post that was helpful to me, instead of someone pointing out where or
>what this post was, they just started attacking me and telling me I was
>ungrateful!
>
>> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
>> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
>> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>>
>> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.

>
>Or I may just leave. Because this has become a very unpleasant place to be.



Julie, for heavens sake, EVERYBODY knew what post it was, it was the
only post that appeared on ASD with the word "GASTROPARESIS" in the
heading. You keep railing on about wanting to know what post was
being pointed out to you. How did you miss it? Go look for it
yourself, nobody is going to repost it for you! I am not, and I
doubt others will either. You need to be proactive about these
things.

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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:57:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
>>>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
>>>>> any means!
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace!
>>>>
>>>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here
>>>>to
>>>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
>>>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!
>>>
>>>
>>> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
>>> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
>>> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
>>> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
>>> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>>>

>>Perhaps as a Buddhist you are here to bring peace. I am not.
>>
>>Did their attacks help me? No. In fact I *still* don't know which post
>>was
>>the post that was supposed to be helpful to me. That is how this all
>>started. Robert Miles left me a vague message and pinged me about it. He
>>didn't tell me specifically which one it was. And when I said I couldn't
>>find a post that was helpful to me, instead of someone pointing out where
>>or
>>what this post was, they just started attacking me and telling me I was
>>ungrateful!
>>
>>> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
>>> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
>>> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>>>
>>> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.

>>
>>Or I may just leave. Because this has become a very unpleasant place to
>>be.

>
>
> Julie, for heavens sake, EVERYBODY knew what post it was, it was the
> only post that appeared on ASD with the word "GASTROPARESIS" in the
> heading. You keep railing on about wanting to know what post was
> being pointed out to you. How did you miss it? Go look for it
> yourself, nobody is going to repost it for you! I am not, and I
> doubt others will either. You need to be proactive about these
> things.


I saw a post by Wendy that was about gastroparesis. I read it. It said
that there are fewer people who have it than once thought. So again, I
state... How could that be helpful to me? I was diagnosed with it via
endoscopy. And it was then confirmed. Is Robert saying that perhaps I
don't actually have it? That my Dr. was wrong? Or is he somehow laughing
at me because I am one of the few who does have it? I don't get it. I
really don't. If that was the post that was supposed to be helpful to *me*.
It wasn't. Nothing wrong with the post but I just don't get the *helpful to
me* factor.

And then after I read the post, Tiger Lily said I needed to go back and look
again. When I did, I saw the reply from Ozgirl. Again, nothing wrong with
that but again, nothing helpful to me. So could you please explain why this
would be helpful to me? Because truly I do not get it.


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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>
>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
>>>> at
>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>
>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>>quite
>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>>they
>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
>>>I
>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>
>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
>>>have
>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.

>>
>>
>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>
>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>

>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no problems
>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in this
>country/
>
>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

>
>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch Food
>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
>canned and boxed broths.
>
>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for not
>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like something.
>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she didn't
>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.



That's the way life is......

Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot
of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.

So what?

Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.

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> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>> that
>>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
>>>>> FOAD
>>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
>>>>> at
>>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>
>>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>>>quite
>>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>>>they
>>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
>>>>and
>>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
>>>>*my*
>>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
>>>>I
>>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>>
>>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
>>>>have
>>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is
>>>>how
>>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>>

>>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no
>>problems
>>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in
>>this
>>country/
>>
>>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

>>
>>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch
>>Food
>>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
>>canned and boxed broths.
>>
>>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for not
>>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like something.
>>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she didn't
>>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
>>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.

>
>
> That's the way life is......
>
> Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot
> of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.
>
> So what?
>
> Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.


And yet they jumped on me for saying they were vocal low carbers. The very
same person. Yep. Kinda funny! And not in a ha ha kind of way.


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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:16:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:57:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks
>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>>>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
>>>>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
>>>>>> any means!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace!
>>>>>
>>>>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here
>>>>>to
>>>>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
>>>>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
>>>> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
>>>> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
>>>> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
>>>> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>>>>
>>>Perhaps as a Buddhist you are here to bring peace. I am not.
>>>
>>>Did their attacks help me? No. In fact I *still* don't know which post
>>>was
>>>the post that was supposed to be helpful to me. That is how this all
>>>started. Robert Miles left me a vague message and pinged me about it. He
>>>didn't tell me specifically which one it was. And when I said I couldn't
>>>find a post that was helpful to me, instead of someone pointing out where
>>>or
>>>what this post was, they just started attacking me and telling me I was
>>>ungrateful!
>>>
>>>> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
>>>> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
>>>> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>>>>
>>>> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.
>>>
>>>Or I may just leave. Because this has become a very unpleasant place to
>>>be.

>>
>>
>> Julie, for heavens sake, EVERYBODY knew what post it was, it was the
>> only post that appeared on ASD with the word "GASTROPARESIS" in the
>> heading. You keep railing on about wanting to know what post was
>> being pointed out to you. How did you miss it? Go look for it
>> yourself, nobody is going to repost it for you! I am not, and I
>> doubt others will either. You need to be proactive about these
>> things.

>
>I saw a post by Wendy that was about gastroparesis. I read it. It said
>that there are fewer people who have it than once thought. So again, I
>state... How could that be helpful to me? I was diagnosed with it via
>endoscopy. And it was then confirmed. Is Robert saying that perhaps I
>don't actually have it? That my Dr. was wrong? Or is he somehow laughing
>at me because I am one of the few who does have it? I don't get it. I
>really don't. If that was the post that was supposed to be helpful to *me*.
>It wasn't. Nothing wrong with the post but I just don't get the *helpful to
>me* factor.
>
>And then after I read the post, Tiger Lily said I needed to go back and look
>again. When I did, I saw the reply from Ozgirl. Again, nothing wrong with
>that but again, nothing helpful to me. So could you please explain why this
>would be helpful to me? Because truly I do not get it.



I have no idea.

I think they saw the word "gastroparesis" and knowing you had issues
with it, they mentioned it.

If it is not helpful to you, just ignore it!!!!!!!!

Evelyn
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:23:14 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
>>>>>> FOAD
>>>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>
>>>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>>>>quite
>>>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>>>>they
>>>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
>>>>>and
>>>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
>>>>>*my*
>>>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
>>>>>I
>>>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
>>>>>have
>>>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is
>>>>>how
>>>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>>>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>>>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>>>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>>>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>>>
>>>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no
>>>problems
>>>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in
>>>this
>>>country/
>>>
>>>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>>>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>>>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>>>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>>>
>>>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch
>>>Food
>>>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
>>>canned and boxed broths.
>>>
>>>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for not
>>>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like something.
>>>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she didn't
>>>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
>>>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.

>>
>>
>> That's the way life is......
>>
>> Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot
>> of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.
>>
>> So what?
>>
>> Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.

>
>And yet they jumped on me for saying they were vocal low carbers. The very
>same person. Yep. Kinda funny! And not in a ha ha kind of way.



Carbs, low carb, high carb, limited carb, these same issues come up
again and again on these groups. I listen to my dietician. She's a
professional, and I feel better and do well with her advice.

Evelyn


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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:16:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:57:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news:112ag7tbu4ga5v94g5i28tu0gjn7cb96as@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good
>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher,
>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks
>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the
>>>>>>>>behaviour
>>>>>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> any means!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peace!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not
>>>>>>here
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
>>>>> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
>>>>> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
>>>>> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
>>>>> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>>>>>
>>>>Perhaps as a Buddhist you are here to bring peace. I am not.
>>>>
>>>>Did their attacks help me? No. In fact I *still* don't know which post
>>>>was
>>>>the post that was supposed to be helpful to me. That is how this all
>>>>started. Robert Miles left me a vague message and pinged me about it.
>>>>He
>>>>didn't tell me specifically which one it was. And when I said I
>>>>couldn't
>>>>find a post that was helpful to me, instead of someone pointing out
>>>>where
>>>>or
>>>>what this post was, they just started attacking me and telling me I was
>>>>ungrateful!
>>>>
>>>>> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
>>>>> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
>>>>> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>>>>>
>>>>> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.
>>>>
>>>>Or I may just leave. Because this has become a very unpleasant place to
>>>>be.
>>>
>>>
>>> Julie, for heavens sake, EVERYBODY knew what post it was, it was the
>>> only post that appeared on ASD with the word "GASTROPARESIS" in the
>>> heading. You keep railing on about wanting to know what post was
>>> being pointed out to you. How did you miss it? Go look for it
>>> yourself, nobody is going to repost it for you! I am not, and I
>>> doubt others will either. You need to be proactive about these
>>> things.

>>
>>I saw a post by Wendy that was about gastroparesis. I read it. It said
>>that there are fewer people who have it than once thought. So again, I
>>state... How could that be helpful to me? I was diagnosed with it via
>>endoscopy. And it was then confirmed. Is Robert saying that perhaps I
>>don't actually have it? That my Dr. was wrong? Or is he somehow laughing
>>at me because I am one of the few who does have it? I don't get it. I
>>really don't. If that was the post that was supposed to be helpful to
>>*me*.
>>It wasn't. Nothing wrong with the post but I just don't get the *helpful
>>to
>>me* factor.
>>
>>And then after I read the post, Tiger Lily said I needed to go back and
>>look
>>again. When I did, I saw the reply from Ozgirl. Again, nothing wrong
>>with
>>that but again, nothing helpful to me. So could you please explain why
>>this
>>would be helpful to me? Because truly I do not get it.

>
>
> I have no idea.
>
> I think they saw the word "gastroparesis" and knowing you had issues
> with it, they mentioned it.
>
> If it is not helpful to you, just ignore it!!!!!!!!


But you see, I couldn't do that because that is how the attacks started!
They said I didn't thank Robert! How could I thank him if I didn't know
what I was thanking him for? I can only assume now that either Robert
didn't read the article or... Robert simply knows nothing about
gastroparesis. Or... I just don't know.


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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:23:14 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
>>>>>>> FOAD
>>>>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>>>>>quite
>>>>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>>>>>they
>>>>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
>>>>>>*my*
>>>>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>>>>>>chicken?
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is
>>>>>>how
>>>>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>>>>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>>>>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>>>>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>>>>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>>>>
>>>>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no
>>>>problems
>>>>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in
>>>>this
>>>>country/
>>>>
>>>>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>>>>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>>>>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>>>>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>>>>
>>>>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch
>>>>Food
>>>>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
>>>>canned and boxed broths.
>>>>
>>>>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for
>>>>not
>>>>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like
>>>>something.
>>>>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she
>>>>didn't
>>>>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
>>>>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's the way life is......
>>>
>>> Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot
>>> of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.
>>>
>>> So what?
>>>
>>> Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.

>>
>>And yet they jumped on me for saying they were vocal low carbers. The
>>very
>>same person. Yep. Kinda funny! And not in a ha ha kind of way.

>
>
> Carbs, low carb, high carb, limited carb, these same issues come up
> again and again on these groups. I listen to my dietician. She's a
> professional, and I feel better and do well with her advice.


Uh oh. I can sense the attacks coming now!


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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:31:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:16:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:57:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:112ag7tbu4ga5v94g5i28tu0gjn7cb96as@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good
>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher,
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks
>>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the
>>>>>>>>>behaviour
>>>>>>>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> any means!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peace!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not
>>>>>>>here
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
>>>>>> yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
>>>>>> die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
>>>>>> help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
>>>>>> the answer to all of those questions is "no".
>>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps as a Buddhist you are here to bring peace. I am not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Did their attacks help me? No. In fact I *still* don't know which post
>>>>>was
>>>>>the post that was supposed to be helpful to me. That is how this all
>>>>>started. Robert Miles left me a vague message and pinged me about it.
>>>>>He
>>>>>didn't tell me specifically which one it was. And when I said I
>>>>>couldn't
>>>>>find a post that was helpful to me, instead of someone pointing out
>>>>>where
>>>>>or
>>>>>what this post was, they just started attacking me and telling me I was
>>>>>ungrateful!
>>>>>
>>>>>> We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
>>>>>> few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
>>>>>> made some effort to smooth it all over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.
>>>>>
>>>>>Or I may just leave. Because this has become a very unpleasant place to
>>>>>be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Julie, for heavens sake, EVERYBODY knew what post it was, it was the
>>>> only post that appeared on ASD with the word "GASTROPARESIS" in the
>>>> heading. You keep railing on about wanting to know what post was
>>>> being pointed out to you. How did you miss it? Go look for it
>>>> yourself, nobody is going to repost it for you! I am not, and I
>>>> doubt others will either. You need to be proactive about these
>>>> things.
>>>
>>>I saw a post by Wendy that was about gastroparesis. I read it. It said
>>>that there are fewer people who have it than once thought. So again, I
>>>state... How could that be helpful to me? I was diagnosed with it via
>>>endoscopy. And it was then confirmed. Is Robert saying that perhaps I
>>>don't actually have it? That my Dr. was wrong? Or is he somehow laughing
>>>at me because I am one of the few who does have it? I don't get it. I
>>>really don't. If that was the post that was supposed to be helpful to
>>>*me*.
>>>It wasn't. Nothing wrong with the post but I just don't get the *helpful
>>>to
>>>me* factor.
>>>
>>>And then after I read the post, Tiger Lily said I needed to go back and
>>>look
>>>again. When I did, I saw the reply from Ozgirl. Again, nothing wrong
>>>with
>>>that but again, nothing helpful to me. So could you please explain why
>>>this
>>>would be helpful to me? Because truly I do not get it.

>>
>>
>> I have no idea.
>>
>> I think they saw the word "gastroparesis" and knowing you had issues
>> with it, they mentioned it.
>>
>> If it is not helpful to you, just ignore it!!!!!!!!

>
>But you see, I couldn't do that because that is how the attacks started!
>They said I didn't thank Robert! How could I thank him if I didn't know
>what I was thanking him for? I can only assume now that either Robert
>didn't read the article or... Robert simply knows nothing about
>gastroparesis. Or... I just don't know.



I would just leave it and say nothing if it wasn't helpful. I can't
tell you how many times I have done just that. Sometimes just simply
dropping it is best.

Evelyn
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Julie Bove > wrote:

: "Cheri" > wrote in message
: ...
: > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
: > ...
: >>
: >>
: >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
: >> ...
: >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
: >>> ...
: >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
: >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
: >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
: >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
: >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
: >>> anything wise in this world.
: >>> ~Helen Keller
: >>
: >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
: >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
: >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
: >
: >
: > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
: > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
: > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
: > yourself before taking others to task.

: AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are quite
: a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say they
: don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
: then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
: buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken? I
: don't get it. I really don't.

: And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to have
: been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
: this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.

I just wrote about that on the other thread. I believe it was the use of
pureed meat and vegetables like ozgirls's friend even if you are supposed
to be past that stage. If it works to eat soupy pureed meat adn veggie
soup, try it.

Less strain on your digestive system.

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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:32:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:23:14 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
>>>>>>>> FOAD
>>>>>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>>>>>>quite
>>>>>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
>>>>>>>*my*
>>>>>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>>>>>>>chicken?
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is
>>>>>>>how
>>>>>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>>>>>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>>>>>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>>>>>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>>>>>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no
>>>>>problems
>>>>>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in
>>>>>this
>>>>>country/
>>>>>
>>>>>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>>>>>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>>>>>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>>>>>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>>>>>
>>>>>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch
>>>>>Food
>>>>>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
>>>>>canned and boxed broths.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for
>>>>>not
>>>>>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like
>>>>>something.
>>>>>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she
>>>>>didn't
>>>>>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
>>>>>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's the way life is......
>>>>
>>>> Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot
>>>> of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.
>>>>
>>>> So what?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.
>>>
>>>And yet they jumped on me for saying they were vocal low carbers. The
>>>very
>>>same person. Yep. Kinda funny! And not in a ha ha kind of way.

>>
>>
>> Carbs, low carb, high carb, limited carb, these same issues come up
>> again and again on these groups. I listen to my dietician. She's a
>> professional, and I feel better and do well with her advice.

>
>Uh oh. I can sense the attacks coming now!



I can ignore an attack or I can respond to it. Mostly I just ignore
it. I don't expect or demand that everyone agree with me. Especially
those who have their own point of view and are strongly attached to
it. Disagreeing with me is not necessarily an attack either. I try
not to see it as such.

Evelyn


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"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : >>
> : >>
> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : >> ...
> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
> : >>> ...
> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
> get
> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
> it
> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
> : >>> anything wise in this world.
> : >>> ~Helen Keller
> : >>
> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
> at
> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
> : >
> : >
> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
> that
> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
> FOAD
> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
> at
> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>
> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
> quite
> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
> they
> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
> and
> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
> *my*
> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
> I
> : don't get it. I really don't.


That's part of your pattern Julie, you say outrageous things at times, and
keep saying them until you **** people off enough that they respond in
kind...and then Jan rushes to your defense with the "poor little Julie"
thing, and all of a sudden you're playing the victim with a bunch of old
"meanie heads" attacking you for no reason. As another poster said, it's
predictable, and will probably happen again sooner or later...when you get
bored with no attention.

Cheri

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"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : >>
> : >>
> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : >> ...
> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
> : >>> ...
> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
> get
> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
> it
> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
> : >>> anything wise in this world.
> : >>> ~Helen Keller
> : >>
> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
> at
> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
> : >
> : >
> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
> that
> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
> FOAD
> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
> at
> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>
> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
> quite
> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
> they
> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
> and
> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
> *my*
> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
> I
> : don't get it. I really don't.
>
> : And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
> have
> : been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is
> how
> : this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>
> I just wrote about that on the other thread. I believe it was the use of
> pureed meat and vegetables like ozgirls's friend even if you are supposed
> to be past that stage. If it works to eat soupy pureed meat adn veggie
> soup, try it.
>
> Less strain on your digestive system.


But it is only to be used after an acute attack. If you continue to eat
like that, you will never get any better. Yes, some people never get
better. Some even have to be on a feeding tube. Thankfully that is not me!


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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> : > ...
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : >> ...
>> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>> : >>> ...
>> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>> trouble.
>> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>> get
>> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>> will it
>> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>> : >>>
>> : >>>
>> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>> : >>> anything wise in this world.
>> : >>> ~Helen Keller
>> : >>
>> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>> at
>> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>> : >
>> : >
>> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>> that
>> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
>> FOAD
>> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>> look at
>> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>>
>> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>> quite
>> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>> they
>> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
>> and
>> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
>> *my*
>> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>> chicken? I
>> : don't get it. I really don't.

>
> That's part of your pattern Julie, you say outrageous things at times, and
> keep saying them until you **** people off enough that they respond in
> kind...and then Jan rushes to your defense with the "poor little Julie"
> thing, and all of a sudden you're playing the victim with a bunch of old
> "meanie heads" attacking you for no reason. As another poster said, it's
> predictable, and will probably happen again sooner or later...when you get
> bored with no attention.


You don't even know the whole story Cheri. One of the people here sent me
an e-mail that was very weird, didn't make any sense and told me to tell her
to FOAD via e-mail. And no, I am not going to repost it here. This on the
very day that Robert made the post to me. Whether or not there is a
connection I do not know. I was trying to sort that out but I have given up
on that now! This whole thing has blown up in a bad way.


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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good
>>>>>> look at
>>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>>>>> Susan that
>>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>>> the FOAD
>>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>>>>> look
>>>>> at
>>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>
>>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there
>>>>are
>>>>quite
>>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who
>>>>say
>>>>they
>>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned
>>>>broth and
>>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains
>>>>about *my*
>>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>>>>chicken?
>>>>I
>>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>>
>>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed
>>>>to
>>>>have
>>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that
>>>>is how
>>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken,
>>> cooked
>>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact
>>> of
>>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>>

>>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no
>>problems
>>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in
>>this
>>country/
>>
>>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in
>>> a
>>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

>>
>>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do
>>watch Food
>>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates
>>of
>>canned and boxed broths.
>>
>>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for
>>not
>>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like
>>something.
>>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she
>>didn't
>>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone
>>would
>>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.

>
>
> That's the way life is......
>
> Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot


And we all have different levels of insulin resistance. If a person
can't eat a bit of potato then insulin resistance is probably very high.
I personally have reversed my insulin resistance and have for the past
year been able to eat what i want and in what quantities I want. Not
that I do it all the time but its nice to know I can walk into a
restaurant or be at a party and not have to worry about spiking.

Some diabetics can eat a whole potato (depending on insulin resistance
meds, insulin etc), some can't. I don't think we should have to cater
to the lowest possible denominator/ If one potato on a whole dish for 6
people is too much then omit the potato. I would have to presume that
people in here are smart enough to figure out what they can or cannot
tolerate without hoohah. Obviously some fly bys come here from time to
time and post recipes that are almost entirely carb and high at that but
a recipe with a small amount of starch over a goodly amount of serves is
something easily adapted to suit the individual.

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"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:32:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:23:14 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news:tv3ag7tse4t451b6qon6fdkcmhcuebi4k7@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in
>>>>>>>>>>>> life the
>>>>>>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how
>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a
>>>>>>>>>> good look
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human
>>>>>>>>>> being is
>>>>>>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you
>>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>> FOAD
>>>>>>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However
>>>>>>>>there are
>>>>>>>>quite
>>>>>>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those
>>>>>>>>who say
>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned
>>>>>>>>broth
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains
>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>*my*
>>>>>>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>>>>>>>>chicken?
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was
>>>>>>>>supposed
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and
>>>>>>>>that is
>>>>>>>>how
>>>>>>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken,
>>>>>>> cooked
>>>>>>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very
>>>>>>> fact of
>>>>>>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>>>>>>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>problems
>>>>>>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who
>>>>>>live in
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>country/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A
>>>>>>> FRESH
>>>>>>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>>>>>>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do
>>>>>>watch
>>>>>>Food
>>>>>>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are
>>>>>>advocates of
>>>>>>canned and boxed broths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like
>>>>>>something.
>>>>>>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No,
>>>>>>she
>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the way life is......
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole
>>>>> pot
>>>>> of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.
>>>>
>>>>And yet they jumped on me for saying they were vocal low carbers.
>>>>The
>>>>very
>>>>same person. Yep. Kinda funny! And not in a ha ha kind of way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Carbs, low carb, high carb, limited carb, these same issues come up
>>> again and again on these groups. I listen to my dietician. She's
>>> a
>>> professional, and I feel better and do well with her advice.

>>
>>Uh oh. I can sense the attacks coming now!

>
>
> I can ignore an attack or I can respond to it. Mostly I just ignore
> it. I don't expect or demand that everyone agree with me. Especially
> those who have their own point of view and are strongly attached to
> it. Disagreeing with me is not necessarily an attack either. I try
> not to see it as such.


Disagreeing is a fine thing, people can argue the merits of both sides
in an amiable way but sometimes when people disagree they insert
insidious little digs amongst the amiable words which changes the tone
and I tend to pick up on those not so subtle subtleties.

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