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Julie Bove[_2_] 17-11-2011 03:32 AM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 
Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem pretty
similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese, mushrooms and
almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in looking it up I
didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm thinking this is wrong.
Some recipes have some sort of cheese but others do not. Some use a cream
of something or other soup but others use a white sauce. I am thinking now
that what I really had at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't think
I have ever had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made in
CA. It came from a can. And nobody liked it.



Storrmmee 17-11-2011 06:34 AM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 
they from memory seem similar but i am thinking a la king has the pimintoes
and not as much starch, the other one i think has cheese on top and possibly
is put together and baked, but my memory isn't working great tonight.

Lee

ps and what i do remember is that ala king was always chicken the other one
was always turkey,
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem pretty
> similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese, mushrooms and
> almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in looking it up I
> didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm thinking this is
> wrong. Some recipes have some sort of cheese but others do not. Some use
> a cream of something or other soup but others use a white sauce. I am
> thinking now that what I really had at school that I liked was Tetrazzini.
> I don't think I have ever had anything ala King except for something nasty
> I once made in CA. It came from a can. And nobody liked it.
>




Julie Bove[_2_] 17-11-2011 07:02 AM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> they from memory seem similar but i am thinking a la king has the
> pimintoes and not as much starch, the other one i think has cheese on top
> and possibly is put together and baked, but my memory isn't working great
> tonight.


Thanks!



W. Baker 17-11-2011 03:47 PM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 
Julie Bove > wrote:
: Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem pretty
: similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese, mushrooms and
: almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in looking it up I
: didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm thinking this is wrong.
: Some recipes have some sort of cheese but others do not. Some use a cream
: of something or other soup but others use a white sauce. I am thinking now
: that what I really had at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't think
: I have ever had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made in
: CA. It came from a can. And nobody liked it.

Cream soups are actually shortcuts offor a cream or white sauce, so
recipes will vary. IIFC we had what they called turkey tetrazzini at
college. It was a creamsauce bsed dish with turkey(rather than th eusual
chicken) mushrooms adn other stuff served on spachetti with
cheese(grated). I never had it anywere else.

I guess you could consider it the Italian verson of creamed chicken or
A-L-King.

Wendy

Storrmmee 17-11-2011 03:53 PM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 
that makes sense, Lee
"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
> : Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem pretty
> : similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese, mushrooms and
> : almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in looking it up I
> : didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm thinking this is
> wrong.
> : Some recipes have some sort of cheese but others do not. Some use a
> cream
> : of something or other soup but others use a white sauce. I am thinking
> now
> : that what I really had at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't
> think
> : I have ever had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made
> in
> : CA. It came from a can. And nobody liked it.
>
> Cream soups are actually shortcuts offor a cream or white sauce, so
> recipes will vary. IIFC we had what they called turkey tetrazzini at
> college. It was a creamsauce bsed dish with turkey(rather than th eusual
> chicken) mushrooms adn other stuff served on spachetti with
> cheese(grated). I never had it anywere else.
>
> I guess you could consider it the Italian verson of creamed chicken or
> A-L-King.
>
> Wendy




Janet 17-11-2011 05:52 PM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 
W. Baker wrote:
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>> Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem
>> pretty similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese,
>> mushrooms and almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in
>> looking it up I didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm
>> thinking this is wrong. Some recipes have some sort of cheese but
>> others do not. Some use a cream of something or other soup but
>> others use a white sauce. I am thinking now that what I really had
>> at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't think I have ever
>> had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made in CA.
>> It came from a can. And nobody liked it.

>
> Cream soups are actually shortcuts offor a cream or white sauce, so
> recipes will vary. IIFC we had what they called turkey tetrazzini at
> college. It was a creamsauce bsed dish with turkey(rather than th
> eusual chicken) mushrooms adn other stuff served on spachetti with
> cheese(grated). I never had it anywere else.
>
> I guess you could consider it the Italian verson of creamed chicken or
> A-L-King.
>
> Wendy


Tetrazinni was named for the famous opera singer. The "original" recipe, in
the New York Time Cookbook, includes a whole stewed chicken, simmered with
the usual court bouillon staples, and a veloute sauce made from the poaching
liquid, enriched with sherry, cream, egg yolk, and sauteed mushrooms. This
is layered in a buttered casserole with spaghetti, sprinkled with parmesan,
dotted with butter, and browned under a preheated broiler. Toasted almonds
are optional.

As Craig Claiborne notes, Luisa Tetrazzini was Italian, but the dish is
definitely American. <G>

"A La King" dishes are traditionally some kind of protein in bite-sized
pieces mixed with a white sauce or veloute that includes chopped pimiento.
It is usually served over rice or noodles.



Julie Bove[_2_] 17-11-2011 10:14 PM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
> : Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem pretty
> : similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese, mushrooms and
> : almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in looking it up I
> : didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm thinking this is
> wrong.
> : Some recipes have some sort of cheese but others do not. Some use a
> cream
> : of something or other soup but others use a white sauce. I am thinking
> now
> : that what I really had at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't
> think
> : I have ever had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made
> in
> : CA. It came from a can. And nobody liked it.
>
> Cream soups are actually shortcuts offor a cream or white sauce, so
> recipes will vary. IIFC we had what they called turkey tetrazzini at
> college. It was a creamsauce bsed dish with turkey(rather than th eusual
> chicken) mushrooms adn other stuff served on spachetti with
> cheese(grated). I never had it anywere else.
>
> I guess you could consider it the Italian verson of creamed chicken or
> A-L-King.


Italian? I thought Tetrazzini was American?



Julie Bove[_2_] 17-11-2011 10:14 PM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> W. Baker wrote:
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>> Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem
>>> pretty similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese,
>>> mushrooms and almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in
>>> looking it up I didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm
>>> thinking this is wrong. Some recipes have some sort of cheese but
>>> others do not. Some use a cream of something or other soup but
>>> others use a white sauce. I am thinking now that what I really had
>>> at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't think I have ever
>>> had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made in CA.
>>> It came from a can. And nobody liked it.

>>
>> Cream soups are actually shortcuts offor a cream or white sauce, so
>> recipes will vary. IIFC we had what they called turkey tetrazzini at
>> college. It was a creamsauce bsed dish with turkey(rather than th
>> eusual chicken) mushrooms adn other stuff served on spachetti with
>> cheese(grated). I never had it anywere else.
>>
>> I guess you could consider it the Italian verson of creamed chicken or
>> A-L-King.
>>
>> Wendy

>
> Tetrazinni was named for the famous opera singer. The "original" recipe,
> in the New York Time Cookbook, includes a whole stewed chicken, simmered
> with the usual court bouillon staples, and a veloute sauce made from the
> poaching liquid, enriched with sherry, cream, egg yolk, and sauteed
> mushrooms. This is layered in a buttered casserole with spaghetti,
> sprinkled with parmesan, dotted with butter, and browned under a preheated
> broiler. Toasted almonds are optional.
>
> As Craig Claiborne notes, Luisa Tetrazzini was Italian, but the dish is
> definitely American. <G>
>
> "A La King" dishes are traditionally some kind of protein in bite-sized
> pieces mixed with a white sauce or veloute that includes chopped pimiento.
> It is usually served over rice or noodles.


Thanks!



W. Baker 17-11-2011 10:39 PM

Ala King? Tetrazzini?
 
Julie Bove > wrote:

: "W. Baker" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Julie Bove > wrote:
: > : Does anyone know the difference between these things? They seem pretty
: > : similar. Wikipedia says Tetrazzini has parmesan cheese, mushrooms and
: > : almonds in it. Which I thought sounded weird. And in looking it up I
: > : didn't see any recipes that contained almonds. I'm thinking this is
: > wrong.
: > : Some recipes have some sort of cheese but others do not. Some use a
: > cream
: > : of something or other soup but others use a white sauce. I am thinking
: > now
: > : that what I really had at school that I liked was Tetrazzini. I don't
: > think
: > : I have ever had anything ala King except for something nasty I once made
: > in
: > : CA. It came from a can. And nobody liked it.
: >
: > Cream soups are actually shortcuts offor a cream or white sauce, so
: > recipes will vary. IIFC we had what they called turkey tetrazzini at
: > college. It was a creamsauce bsed dish with turkey(rather than th eusual
: > chicken) mushrooms adn other stuff served on spachetti with
: > cheese(grated). I never had it anywere else.
: >
: > I guess you could consider it the Italian verson of creamed chicken or
: > A-L-King.

: Italian? I thought Tetrazzini was American?
The opera singer after whol=m the dish was named was Italian and the
recipe mker used Parmesgian cheese, which also was, at that time only used
in Italian dishes, so the dish was created by and american chef in whata
may well have been regarded as "Italian " style after a famous italian
soprano.

By the way, spaghetti and meatballs is actually an American dish. They do
not make or serve it in Italy. It was probably developed by Italian
American cooks adaptng their cuisine to American tastes ad
ingredients(like lots more meat than poor Italian peasants would have been
eating.

Wendy



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