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http://www.felineinstincts.com/Felin...formation.html

"Probiotics
Probiotics provide healthy bacteria for the digestive tract which helps
facilitate digestion and also allows animals to get maximum nutrition
from their food. In addition any unhealthy or pathogenic bacteria can be
displaced by the beneficial and helps to keep the digestive tract of
your pet healthy.

After years of hard to digest, commercial pet foods, many cats have
difficulty adapting to diet changes. In addition, when prey animals are
ingested, digestive secretions containing enzymes are also ingested by
the predator.

Dr Gardner commented, "Even high quality organic food is not nutrient
rich as in the past and the enzymes help them utilize the diet to the
fullest extent, and enzymes in general are helpful for health conditions
such as IBD. A lot of cats come to the raw diet with existing health
issues and this helps with the transition as well, since their health is
already compromised."


With Dr Russell Swift's special blend of probiotics and enzymes, we
choose L-Sporogenes (NON DAIRY) as our probiotic choice because it
resists the action of antibiotic and digestive juices. It is a very
strong, hardy, robust "friendly" intestinal flora, classified by the
USDA as a Probiotic.

Probiotic means "For life."

L Sporogenes is the strongest probiotic on the market that works to
relieve;
diarrhea, constipation, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, intestinal
infections, malabsorption of nutrients, vitamin K deficiency, slowing of
digestion, food sensitivities, parasite infections, leaky gut syndrome,
food allergies, Candidiasis with its multiple symptoms, and Candida
Albicans or Yeast. The main drawback with other popular Probiotics on
the market today, such as Acidophilus, is that the bacteria are in a
vegetative (alive) state. One function of an animal's stomach acid is
for prevention of disease; it is designed to KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISMS!

Another function of the stomach's acids is to break down proteins.
Bacteria are made up of proteins. Therefore, the bacteria, being
protein, is broken down and digested before they are able to reach the
intestines. However, L. Sporogenes, being in a non-protein shell, can
survive the acids of the stomach, pass-through, like roughage, and enter
the intestines where the right pH factor is reached. The bacteria then
breaks out from the non-protein shell and swims away to produce L(+)
Lactic acid that is better metabolized than the D(-) Lactic acid
produced by Acidophilus.

L. Sporogenes, because it is dormant, does not need to be refrigerated.

L. Sporogenes is the only Probiotic on the market that can be taken
during antibiotic treatment.


Enzymes
Enzymes naturally promote improved digestion in the stomach and
intestines. Our enzymes are specially formulated to help a carnivore
dissolve raw meat diets into easily absorbable nutrients, while
improving your pets' ability to assimilate vital nutrients from the raw
diet."


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interesting, will save for future reference, lucky for me right now everyone
is doing well on the k/d with supplements fot three of them, Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.felineinstincts.com/Felin...formation.html
>
> "Probiotics
> Probiotics provide healthy bacteria for the digestive tract which helps
> facilitate digestion and also allows animals to get maximum nutrition from
> their food. In addition any unhealthy or pathogenic bacteria can be
> displaced by the beneficial and helps to keep the digestive tract of your
> pet healthy.
>
> After years of hard to digest, commercial pet foods, many cats have
> difficulty adapting to diet changes. In addition, when prey animals are
> ingested, digestive secretions containing enzymes are also ingested by the
> predator.
>
> Dr Gardner commented, "Even high quality organic food is not nutrient rich
> as in the past and the enzymes help them utilize the diet to the fullest
> extent, and enzymes in general are helpful for health conditions such as
> IBD. A lot of cats come to the raw diet with existing health issues and
> this helps with the transition as well, since their health is already
> compromised."
>
>
> With Dr Russell Swift's special blend of probiotics and enzymes, we choose
> L-Sporogenes (NON DAIRY) as our probiotic choice because it resists the
> action of antibiotic and digestive juices. It is a very strong, hardy,
> robust "friendly" intestinal flora, classified by the USDA as a Probiotic.
>
> Probiotic means "For life."
>
> L Sporogenes is the strongest probiotic on the market that works to
> relieve;
> diarrhea, constipation, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, intestinal infections,
> malabsorption of nutrients, vitamin K deficiency, slowing of digestion,
> food sensitivities, parasite infections, leaky gut syndrome, food
> allergies, Candidiasis with its multiple symptoms, and Candida Albicans or
> Yeast. The main drawback with other popular Probiotics on the market
> today, such as Acidophilus, is that the bacteria are in a vegetative
> (alive) state. One function of an animal's stomach acid is for prevention
> of disease; it is designed to KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISMS!
>
> Another function of the stomach's acids is to break down proteins.
> Bacteria are made up of proteins. Therefore, the bacteria, being protein,
> is broken down and digested before they are able to reach the intestines.
> However, L. Sporogenes, being in a non-protein shell, can survive the
> acids of the stomach, pass-through, like roughage, and enter the
> intestines where the right pH factor is reached. The bacteria then breaks
> out from the non-protein shell and swims away to produce L(+) Lactic acid
> that is better metabolized than the D(-) Lactic acid produced by
> Acidophilus.
>
> L. Sporogenes, because it is dormant, does not need to be refrigerated.
>
> L. Sporogenes is the only Probiotic on the market that can be taken during
> antibiotic treatment.
>
>
> Enzymes
> Enzymes naturally promote improved digestion in the stomach and
> intestines. Our enzymes are specially formulated to help a carnivore
> dissolve raw meat diets into easily absorbable nutrients, while improving
> your pets' ability to assimilate vital nutrients from the raw diet."
>
>



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Interesting!
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.felineinstincts.com/Felin...formation.html
>
> "Probiotics
> Probiotics provide healthy bacteria for the digestive tract which helps
> facilitate digestion and also allows animals to get maximum nutrition from
> their food. In addition any unhealthy or pathogenic bacteria can be
> displaced by the beneficial and helps to keep the digestive tract of your
> pet healthy.
>
> After years of hard to digest, commercial pet foods, many cats have
> difficulty adapting to diet changes. In addition, when prey animals are
> ingested, digestive secretions containing enzymes are also ingested by the
> predator.
>
> Dr Gardner commented, "Even high quality organic food is not nutrient rich
> as in the past and the enzymes help them utilize the diet to the fullest
> extent, and enzymes in general are helpful for health conditions such as
> IBD. A lot of cats come to the raw diet with existing health issues and
> this helps with the transition as well, since their health is already
> compromised."
>
>
> With Dr Russell Swift's special blend of probiotics and enzymes, we choose
> L-Sporogenes (NON DAIRY) as our probiotic choice because it resists the
> action of antibiotic and digestive juices. It is a very strong, hardy,
> robust "friendly" intestinal flora, classified by the USDA as a Probiotic.
>
> Probiotic means "For life."
>
> L Sporogenes is the strongest probiotic on the market that works to
> relieve;
> diarrhea, constipation, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, intestinal infections,
> malabsorption of nutrients, vitamin K deficiency, slowing of digestion,
> food sensitivities, parasite infections, leaky gut syndrome, food
> allergies, Candidiasis with its multiple symptoms, and Candida Albicans or
> Yeast. The main drawback with other popular Probiotics on the market
> today, such as Acidophilus, is that the bacteria are in a vegetative
> (alive) state. One function of an animal's stomach acid is for prevention
> of disease; it is designed to KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISMS!
>
> Another function of the stomach's acids is to break down proteins.
> Bacteria are made up of proteins. Therefore, the bacteria, being protein,
> is broken down and digested before they are able to reach the intestines.
> However, L. Sporogenes, being in a non-protein shell, can survive the
> acids of the stomach, pass-through, like roughage, and enter the
> intestines where the right pH factor is reached. The bacteria then breaks
> out from the non-protein shell and swims away to produce L(+) Lactic acid
> that is better metabolized than the D(-) Lactic acid produced by
> Acidophilus.
>
> L. Sporogenes, because it is dormant, does not need to be refrigerated.
>
> L. Sporogenes is the only Probiotic on the market that can be taken during
> antibiotic treatment.
>
>
> Enzymes
> Enzymes naturally promote improved digestion in the stomach and
> intestines. Our enzymes are specially formulated to help a carnivore
> dissolve raw meat diets into easily absorbable nutrients, while improving
> your pets' ability to assimilate vital nutrients from the raw diet."
>
>



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I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear infections
.....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears can get often.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.felineinstincts.com/Felin...formation.html
>
> "Probiotics
> Probiotics provide healthy bacteria for the digestive tract which helps
> facilitate digestion and also allows animals to get maximum nutrition from
> their food. In addition any unhealthy or pathogenic bacteria can be
> displaced by the beneficial and helps to keep the digestive tract of your
> pet healthy.
>
> After years of hard to digest, commercial pet foods, many cats have
> difficulty adapting to diet changes. In addition, when prey animals are
> ingested, digestive secretions containing enzymes are also ingested by the
> predator.
>
> Dr Gardner commented, "Even high quality organic food is not nutrient rich
> as in the past and the enzymes help them utilize the diet to the fullest
> extent, and enzymes in general are helpful for health conditions such as
> IBD. A lot of cats come to the raw diet with existing health issues and
> this helps with the transition as well, since their health is already
> compromised."
>
>
> With Dr Russell Swift's special blend of probiotics and enzymes, we choose
> L-Sporogenes (NON DAIRY) as our probiotic choice because it resists the
> action of antibiotic and digestive juices. It is a very strong, hardy,
> robust "friendly" intestinal flora, classified by the USDA as a Probiotic.
>
> Probiotic means "For life."
>
> L Sporogenes is the strongest probiotic on the market that works to
> relieve;
> diarrhea, constipation, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, intestinal infections,
> malabsorption of nutrients, vitamin K deficiency, slowing of digestion,
> food sensitivities, parasite infections, leaky gut syndrome, food
> allergies, Candidiasis with its multiple symptoms, and Candida Albicans or
> Yeast. The main drawback with other popular Probiotics on the market
> today, such as Acidophilus, is that the bacteria are in a vegetative
> (alive) state. One function of an animal's stomach acid is for prevention
> of disease; it is designed to KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISMS!
>
> Another function of the stomach's acids is to break down proteins.
> Bacteria are made up of proteins. Therefore, the bacteria, being protein,
> is broken down and digested before they are able to reach the intestines.
> However, L. Sporogenes, being in a non-protein shell, can survive the
> acids of the stomach, pass-through, like roughage, and enter the
> intestines where the right pH factor is reached. The bacteria then breaks
> out from the non-protein shell and swims away to produce L(+) Lactic acid
> that is better metabolized than the D(-) Lactic acid produced by
> Acidophilus.
>
> L. Sporogenes, because it is dormant, does not need to be refrigerated.
>
> L. Sporogenes is the only Probiotic on the market that can be taken during
> antibiotic treatment.
>
>
> Enzymes
> Enzymes naturally promote improved digestion in the stomach and
> intestines. Our enzymes are specially formulated to help a carnivore
> dissolve raw meat diets into easily absorbable nutrients, while improving
> your pets' ability to assimilate vital nutrients from the raw diet."
>
>
>



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Whilst that is good, probiotic supps provide more and are better if the
animal or person has stomach problems. Some animals would also be
allergic to lactose. But if they aren't and they have no stomach
problems then the yoghurt can be a good thing. If it ain't broken don't
fix it

"Jacquie" > wrote in message
m...
> I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear infections
> ....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears can get
> often.
>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://www.felineinstincts.com/Felin...formation.html
>>
>> "Probiotics
>> Probiotics provide healthy bacteria for the digestive tract which
>> helps facilitate digestion and also allows animals to get maximum
>> nutrition from their food. In addition any unhealthy or pathogenic
>> bacteria can be displaced by the beneficial and helps to keep the
>> digestive tract of your pet healthy.
>>
>> After years of hard to digest, commercial pet foods, many cats have
>> difficulty adapting to diet changes. In addition, when prey animals
>> are ingested, digestive secretions containing enzymes are also
>> ingested by the predator.
>>
>> Dr Gardner commented, "Even high quality organic food is not nutrient
>> rich as in the past and the enzymes help them utilize the diet to the
>> fullest extent, and enzymes in general are helpful for health
>> conditions such as IBD. A lot of cats come to the raw diet with
>> existing health issues and this helps with the transition as well,
>> since their health is already compromised."
>>
>>
>> With Dr Russell Swift's special blend of probiotics and enzymes, we
>> choose L-Sporogenes (NON DAIRY) as our probiotic choice because it
>> resists the action of antibiotic and digestive juices. It is a very
>> strong, hardy, robust "friendly" intestinal flora, classified by the
>> USDA as a Probiotic.
>>
>> Probiotic means "For life."
>>
>> L Sporogenes is the strongest probiotic on the market that works to
>> relieve;
>> diarrhea, constipation, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, intestinal
>> infections, malabsorption of nutrients, vitamin K deficiency, slowing
>> of digestion, food sensitivities, parasite infections, leaky gut
>> syndrome, food allergies, Candidiasis with its multiple symptoms, and
>> Candida Albicans or Yeast. The main drawback with other popular
>> Probiotics on the market today, such as Acidophilus, is that the
>> bacteria are in a vegetative (alive) state. One function of an
>> animal's stomach acid is for prevention of disease; it is designed to
>> KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISMS!
>>
>> Another function of the stomach's acids is to break down proteins.
>> Bacteria are made up of proteins. Therefore, the bacteria, being
>> protein, is broken down and digested before they are able to reach
>> the intestines. However, L. Sporogenes, being in a non-protein shell,
>> can survive the acids of the stomach, pass-through, like roughage,
>> and enter the intestines where the right pH factor is reached. The
>> bacteria then breaks out from the non-protein shell and swims away to
>> produce L(+) Lactic acid that is better metabolized than the D(-)
>> Lactic acid produced by Acidophilus.
>>
>> L. Sporogenes, because it is dormant, does not need to be
>> refrigerated.
>>
>> L. Sporogenes is the only Probiotic on the market that can be taken
>> during antibiotic treatment.
>>
>>
>> Enzymes
>> Enzymes naturally promote improved digestion in the stomach and
>> intestines. Our enzymes are specially formulated to help a carnivore
>> dissolve raw meat diets into easily absorbable nutrients, while
>> improving your pets' ability to assimilate vital nutrients from the
>> raw diet."
>>
>>
>>

>
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They love it...its a treat to them
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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> Whilst that is good, probiotic supps provide more and are better if the
> animal or person has stomach problems. Some animals would also be allergic
> to lactose. But if they aren't and they have no stomach problems then the
> yoghurt can be a good thing. If it ain't broken don't fix it
>
> "Jacquie" > wrote in message
> m...
>> I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear infections
>> ....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears can get often.
>>
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.felineinstincts.com/Felin...formation.html
>>>
>>> "Probiotics
>>> Probiotics provide healthy bacteria for the digestive tract which helps
>>> facilitate digestion and also allows animals to get maximum nutrition
>>> from their food. In addition any unhealthy or pathogenic bacteria can be
>>> displaced by the beneficial and helps to keep the digestive tract of
>>> your pet healthy.
>>>
>>> After years of hard to digest, commercial pet foods, many cats have
>>> difficulty adapting to diet changes. In addition, when prey animals are
>>> ingested, digestive secretions containing enzymes are also ingested by
>>> the predator.
>>>
>>> Dr Gardner commented, "Even high quality organic food is not nutrient
>>> rich as in the past and the enzymes help them utilize the diet to the
>>> fullest extent, and enzymes in general are helpful for health conditions
>>> such as IBD. A lot of cats come to the raw diet with existing health
>>> issues and this helps with the transition as well, since their health is
>>> already compromised."
>>>
>>>
>>> With Dr Russell Swift's special blend of probiotics and enzymes, we
>>> choose L-Sporogenes (NON DAIRY) as our probiotic choice because it
>>> resists the action of antibiotic and digestive juices. It is a very
>>> strong, hardy, robust "friendly" intestinal flora, classified by the
>>> USDA as a Probiotic.
>>>
>>> Probiotic means "For life."
>>>
>>> L Sporogenes is the strongest probiotic on the market that works to
>>> relieve;
>>> diarrhea, constipation, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, intestinal
>>> infections, malabsorption of nutrients, vitamin K deficiency, slowing of
>>> digestion, food sensitivities, parasite infections, leaky gut syndrome,
>>> food allergies, Candidiasis with its multiple symptoms, and Candida
>>> Albicans or Yeast. The main drawback with other popular Probiotics on
>>> the market today, such as Acidophilus, is that the bacteria are in a
>>> vegetative (alive) state. One function of an animal's stomach acid is
>>> for prevention of disease; it is designed to KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISMS!
>>>
>>> Another function of the stomach's acids is to break down proteins.
>>> Bacteria are made up of proteins. Therefore, the bacteria, being
>>> protein, is broken down and digested before they are able to reach the
>>> intestines. However, L. Sporogenes, being in a non-protein shell, can
>>> survive the acids of the stomach, pass-through, like roughage, and enter
>>> the intestines where the right pH factor is reached. The bacteria then
>>> breaks out from the non-protein shell and swims away to produce L(+)
>>> Lactic acid that is better metabolized than the D(-) Lactic acid
>>> produced by Acidophilus.
>>>
>>> L. Sporogenes, because it is dormant, does not need to be refrigerated.
>>>
>>> L. Sporogenes is the only Probiotic on the market that can be taken
>>> during antibiotic treatment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Enzymes
>>> Enzymes naturally promote improved digestion in the stomach and
>>> intestines. Our enzymes are specially formulated to help a carnivore
>>> dissolve raw meat diets into easily absorbable nutrients, while
>>> improving your pets' ability to assimilate vital nutrients from the raw
>>> diet."
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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> I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear infections
> ....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears can get often.


I tried giving Maui yogurt but she puked it. The vet said cats shouldn't
have it.


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Cats drink milk, why not yoghurt? Did the vet say why?

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>
> "Jacquie" > wrote in message
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>> I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear
>> infections ....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears
>> can get often.

>
> I tried giving Maui yogurt but she puked it. The vet said cats
> shouldn't have it.
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> Cats drink milk, why not yoghurt? Did the vet say why?


Because they shouldn't have dairy. Cats do not drink milk. Or should not.
I don't know why there are all those stories about cats drinking it. The
only milk a cat should have besides mother's milk is the stuff made for cats
like Cat Sip.

Maui could eat some kinds of dairy cat treats but others she would puke.
Bali and Jazzy do not like any form of dairy at all.


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>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cats drink milk, why not yoghurt? Did the vet say why?

>
> Because they shouldn't have dairy. Cats do not drink milk. Or should
> not. I don't know why there are all those stories about cats drinking
> it. The only milk a cat should have besides mother's milk is the
> stuff made for cats like Cat Sip.
>
> Maui could eat some kinds of dairy cat treats but others she would
> puke. Bali and Jazzy do not like any form of dairy at all.


My brother has always owned Burmese and I know that lactose intolerance
is common with Burmese but I have never heard of no milk for cats
otherwise.



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Ozgirl wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cats drink milk, why not yoghurt? Did the vet say why?

>>
>> Because they shouldn't have dairy. Cats do not drink milk. Or should
>> not. I don't know why there are all those stories about cats drinking
>> it. The only milk a cat should have besides mother's milk is the
>> stuff made for cats like Cat Sip.
>>
>> Maui could eat some kinds of dairy cat treats but others she would
>> puke. Bali and Jazzy do not like any form of dairy at all.

>
> My brother has always owned Burmese and I know that lactose intolerance
> is common with Burmese but I have never heard of no milk for cats
> otherwise.


My Norwegian Forest Cats get the runs from regular milk, as do e.g.
hedgehogs. The cats get Whiskas cat milk as a treat and handle it fine.


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complete opposite of what my feline specialist says, Lee
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>
> "Jacquie" > wrote in message
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>> I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear infections
>> ....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears can get often.

>
> I tried giving Maui yogurt but she puked it. The vet said cats shouldn't
> have it.
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mine says they are like people some are lactose intolerant but if the cat
can tolerate it then its fine, my trudi can't have any milk without hurking
but she does fine with cheeses and yogurt, Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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> Cats drink milk, why not yoghurt? Did the vet say why?
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Jacquie" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>> I've given my dogs yogurt for years...Really helps with ear infections
>>> ....they have never had one....which dogs with floppy ears can get
>>> often.

>>
>> I tried giving Maui yogurt but she puked it. The vet said cats shouldn't
>> have it.
>>



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two of mine won't touch dairy, and two others will hurt you to get it, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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>> Cats drink milk, why not yoghurt? Did the vet say why?

>
> Because they shouldn't have dairy. Cats do not drink milk. Or should
> not. I don't know why there are all those stories about cats drinking it.
> The only milk a cat should have besides mother's milk is the stuff made
> for cats like Cat Sip.
>
> Maui could eat some kinds of dairy cat treats but others she would puke.
> Bali and Jazzy do not like any form of dairy at all.
>



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On 10/22/2011 3:58 AM, Ozgirl wrote:
> My brother has always owned Burmese and I know that lactose intolerance
> is common with Burmese but I have never heard of no milk for cats
> otherwise.


Sarah and Bernie (cats) loved milk, it was a treat for them, just like
fresh salmon was. My family had other cats but i had moved out when
they were 2 or 3 years old......... Spook loved his MILK treat.......
especially if it was coffee cream and not skimmed milk



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> allergists unfortunately are still in large part guessing, my parents are
> both allergic people, i am as well and while i show positive for
> hystamine, not one single thing else, and as the allergist said, thats not
> possible with your parents... there was a series of tests we could have
> done but prhibitively expensive at the time. we had an extended
> conversation about it and came up with another plan of action, now i am
> acutely aware of the beginnings of a reaction so just deal with it, shots
> would be also expensive if i got the tests because they would be hit and
> miss and the test would be to eat the offending substance or breath it or
> whatever, no thanks, Lee


AFAIK they do not have shots for foods and they did not work for me at all
for inhalants. Neither did they work for my parents or brother. In fact I
had such bad reactions following the shots I eventually gave up. I was told
I would need the shots for about 20 years. I saw no need in making myself
suffer more from shots.


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there are some shots for food as well as a protocol that sorta does what
homeopathic does but not that dilute, there are lots of protocols but not in
middle class peoples budgets, and most ins won't pay, my dad took shots for
nine years, they really helped him, but he has decided to not repeat, Lee
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>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> allergists unfortunately are still in large part guessing, my parents are
>> both allergic people, i am as well and while i show positive for
>> hystamine, not one single thing else, and as the allergist said, thats
>> not possible with your parents... there was a series of tests we could
>> have done but prhibitively expensive at the time. we had an extended
>> conversation about it and came up with another plan of action, now i am
>> acutely aware of the beginnings of a reaction so just deal with it, shots
>> would be also expensive if i got the tests because they would be hit and
>> miss and the test would be to eat the offending substance or breath it or
>> whatever, no thanks, Lee

>
> AFAIK they do not have shots for foods and they did not work for me at all
> for inhalants. Neither did they work for my parents or brother. In fact
> I had such bad reactions following the shots I eventually gave up. I was
> told I would need the shots for about 20 years. I saw no need in making
> myself suffer more from shots.
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On 10/23/2011 1:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Tiger > wrote in message
>> The common theme in the allergy testing was that i was positive for
>> allergens to EVERYTHING i had eaten within 72 hours of the testing. They
>> key for me was to make sure i didn't eat the same thing 2 days in a row.
>> When i separated food types by 5 days, my allergies abated.
>>
>> This is CONTRARY to everything i have been told about food allergies.
>>
>> I think your rotation diet is a key here............. and i hope this may
>> give you some insight as to where to go from here if things don't work.
>>
>> dunno...... just sayinizall (your cheque is in the mail)

>
> The two days in a row thing is what Angela and I were told as well. Not to
> eat the same thing two days in a row, with anything. But particularly those
> allergens we have outgrown. We have been bad with this lately. Eating
> dairy almost every day. I do wonder at times if this is causing some of my
> stomach issues.


perk............. tell me more please......... i had my allergy testing
conversations over 35 years ago

i also spoke to a number of "Intern's" who were specialising is said
field (gotta love teaching hospitals, they WANT to listen to you!)

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"Tiger Lily" > wrote in message
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> On 10/23/2011 1:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Tiger > wrote in message
>>> The common theme in the allergy testing was that i was positive for
>>> allergens to EVERYTHING i had eaten within 72 hours of the testing. They
>>> key for me was to make sure i didn't eat the same thing 2 days in a row.
>>> When i separated food types by 5 days, my allergies abated.
>>>
>>> This is CONTRARY to everything i have been told about food allergies.
>>>
>>> I think your rotation diet is a key here............. and i hope this
>>> may
>>> give you some insight as to where to go from here if things don't work.
>>>
>>> dunno...... just sayinizall (your cheque is in the mail)

>>
>> The two days in a row thing is what Angela and I were told as well. Not
>> to
>> eat the same thing two days in a row, with anything. But particularly
>> those
>> allergens we have outgrown. We have been bad with this lately. Eating
>> dairy almost every day. I do wonder at times if this is causing some of
>> my
>> stomach issues.

>
> perk............. tell me more please......... i had my allergy testing
> conversations over 35 years ago
>
> i also spoke to a number of "Intern's" who were specialising is said field
> (gotta love teaching hospitals, they WANT to listen to you!)


She just said we need to eat a varied diet and to never eat things more than
twice a week or two days in a row. Tough for us to do and we don't really
follow it. We eat green beans often. And Angela eats rice based things
more than twice a week.

Her friend who has multiple IgG allergies was on a rotation diet. It is
especially tough for her because she has to write down what she ate and when
so she wasn't repeating what she had eaten. Both parents have food
allergies too. And they're not always the same thing. She had a meltdown
at school when she was younger because her mom had told her she could eat
whatever she wanted. She was afraid to do this. Afraid she would get sick.
She even refused the treats that had brought for her and Angela that I knew
were free of all of their allergens. I drove them over to the house later
and explained to her and her mom that they were perfectly safe for her to
eat.

We actually find that total avoidance is easier for us than limiting things
to twice a week. Right now we have our designated dairy days on Sunday and
Tuesday. Angela picked those days. Sunday because we go shopping at Costco
and she can eat samples then. And because it is the first day of the week.
And Tuesday because she just can't wait any longer. Heh. But dairy is what
we have been cheating on the most.

I do have a special note pad that I bought that lists the days of the week.
You fill in meals for each day so you can see throughout the week what you
will be eating. I do find this helpful. I have been trying to alternate
green beans with salad so we are not eating the same thing night after
night. Carrots are a problem, particularly for Angela. She will happily
eat them every day. She is limited as to what veggies she likes to eat.


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> there are some shots for food as well as a protocol that sorta does what
> homeopathic does but not that dilute, there are lots of protocols but not
> in middle class peoples budgets, and most ins won't pay, my dad took shots
> for nine years, they really helped him, but he has decided to not repeat,
> Lee


What are the shots for food called? What kind of Dr. gives them/




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have no idea, i read about them... maybe six years ago, on a teaching
hospitals website, since needles are a phobia i didn't stay long... maybe
cornelle... but that could be where i read about the three step shot fror a
cat allergy.. sorry i can't help more... I got onto the introduce baby bits
into your system and focused on that, which, btw really didn't work for me.
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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> there are some shots for food as well as a protocol that sorta does what
>> homeopathic does but not that dilute, there are lots of protocols but not
>> in middle class peoples budgets, and most ins won't pay, my dad took
>> shots for nine years, they really helped him, but he has decided to not
>> repeat, Lee

>
> What are the shots for food called? What kind of Dr. gives them/
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ps might have been on a natropathic site as i think about it, Lee
"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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> have no idea, i read about them... maybe six years ago, on a teaching
> hospitals website, since needles are a phobia i didn't stay long... maybe
> cornelle... but that could be where i read about the three step shot fror
> a cat allergy.. sorry i can't help more... I got onto the introduce baby
> bits into your system and focused on that, which, btw really didn't work
> for me. Lee
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>>> there are some shots for food as well as a protocol that sorta does what
>>> homeopathic does but not that dilute, there are lots of protocols but
>>> not in middle class peoples budgets, and most ins won't pay, my dad took
>>> shots for nine years, they really helped him, but he has decided to not
>>> repeat, Lee

>>
>> What are the shots for food called? What kind of Dr. gives them/
>>

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"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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> have no idea, i read about them... maybe six years ago, on a teaching
> hospitals website, since needles are a phobia i didn't stay long... maybe
> cornelle... but that could be where i read about the three step shot fror
> a cat allergy.. sorry i can't help more... I got onto the introduce baby
> bits into your system and focused on that, which, btw really didn't work
> for me. Lee


Never heard of it and certainly wouldn't work for a true allergy.


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the theory was to build resistance like vaccinating, totally useless for me,
Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> have no idea, i read about them... maybe six years ago, on a teaching
>> hospitals website, since needles are a phobia i didn't stay long... maybe
>> cornelle... but that could be where i read about the three step shot fror
>> a cat allergy.. sorry i can't help more... I got onto the introduce baby
>> bits into your system and focused on that, which, btw really didn't work
>> for me. Lee

>
> Never heard of it and certainly wouldn't work for a true allergy.
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