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i totally understand, in 92 that is what we were approved for, i choked...
no thanks... but as to angelas dance, if it interests her, and gives her
exercise of mind and body i see no reason you shouldn't try and save to do
it, Lee


Dance is her life. She wants to teach dance when she gets older.



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that is sad since he isn't there often, Lee


I know.


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My husband is going to try to do that but I don't know because it is
financed at a pretty low rate. And it needs sooo many repairs it
wouldn't pass inspection. The house is not up to code and we can't
afford to put it that way.

I love renting too. But I couldn't convince my husband to rent. There
are apartments around the corner from here. Angela's friend lives in
them. The rent is half what we pay for a 3 bedroom, 2 full bath. Free
pizza and movies on Mondays and there is a pool and some other amenities.
I would be fine with that. He is not.


Ooo, I would be fine with that too My kids are too old for a yard now
so we don't need one, although I do have Jasmine's trampoline and swing
set in the small one we have. I am surprised the mortgage company approved
the loan with the house not up to code. They need to know they can get
their money of you default. Being a home owner has been instilled into a
lot of people by parents etc and is not necessarily the right thing for
some people.


We rarely ever use the yard. Only if we are stuck at home and it is too hot
to sit in the house which I think is going to happen next week! But we will
be at either the dance studio or hospital our both. Unseasonably hot temps
coming our way. But really we've had no summer.


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Given the relationship between Julie and her parents I would be inclined
to start as I mean to go on. As you say, letting them know up front what
you are willing/capable of doing. Not everyone has the ability to look
after aging parents. Just before my mum went into a home I had two young
babies. It was very stressful despite the fact that we had always got on
well.

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knowing your limits and those of your brother is an excellent starting
point, it might be a screaming match but you and brother if he will
are going to just have to say, this is what we can do to help, in
order to keep you out of a nursing home this is what we need to have
you do... that could be shopping with you, o r letting you shop for
them... i swear julie scaring them into understanding that once socail
services gets into it is an ok stratedgy, i have seen som horrid
results when even well meaning socail service people get into it, Lee
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and even if the basics/dry goods are odered online and fresh is
picked up that works also, there are always options in this
situation, my mother and i recently discussed this and she said in
no way would they move in with any of us it would be assisted living
or a nursing home as its too stressful for the caregivers once you
can't live alone, she was dead serious and meant every word... Lee


Safeway still delivers groceries here but I doubt they would go for
that.

I do know that I am not capable of caring for anyone for any length
of time. I tried to do that with my MIL but given my own medical
problems and disability I am not fit for that. I can cook meals and
do a little light housekeeping. That's it!

We don't have any room in our house for them at all. I don't think
my brother does either and nobody would be home at their house
anyway.




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had we to do it over, we would have rented and banked the difference,
that would have really allowed for a lot more travel, Lee


We bought our house late in life, and now I wish we had just kept renting.
New roofs, and many upgrades aren't cheap, and moving on in retirement
isn't all that easy with a house to sell, especially in this market. :-)


I don't know where my husband got this idea from but he thought he could buy
a house and make a ton of money by selling it in a few years. Nobody could
talk him out of that notion. I am sick of this house and all of its
problems.




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i meant exactly what i said, focus is you make it a home and you think
it is an investment... i just had a very modest home burn we paid 35k
for that one, the replacement should end up being around 150k and is a
bit smaller..

as to the difference in focus, a house is a place to sleep and get
clean and store stuff... my home is wherever dh happens to be and has
no relation to a particular structure/location... housing is not an
investment to me, it only costs money, the only thing we consider
investments are things that generate income. IE

just as i said a difference in focus, please don't take offense at a
perceived judgement that did not occur... Lee


I don't consider our house an investment either. We bought it so late
in life. We bought it when the price was high. Not the highest but
close to it. And now the price is worth less than what we paid.
Houses are just not selling in this neighborhood any more. Yes the
new houses are selling. But not the older ones.


And the world economic news today is bad. Might be a shock when you all
wake up tomorrow. Tomorrow is here already ;(

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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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On 9/4/2011 6:22 PM, W. Baker wrote:
Tiger wrote:

: The is an elderly couple who take a taxi to/from the restaurant
every
: day for their dinner. Dinner is 4:30 pm for them and they take
home 1/2
: the senior's portion they just ate. The lady indicates that a soft
: boiled egg, toast and coffee is their morning meal; the left overs
are
: their mid day meal; dinner ensures they have at least lunch at home
the
: next day.

: i didn't define elderly
: he's 102 and she's 97

: kate

Do they have a senior feeding program either like senior lunches for
a
small fee or meals on wheels whic bring a prepared meal to the house
5 das
a week? The other meals woul only entail light shopping that your
mother
could learn to do or that one of you could send over or oder from the
computer.

Wendy

Wendy, Meals on Wheels provides this service to the elderly. I don't
know about the remote area that Julie's parents live in. I know some
restaurants make your choice from 10 items, prepared in advance,
frozen and you only need to reheat them. These would be more upscale
meals and typically are a touch more appealing than the meals on
wheels options.

I know that is available in Seattle. Don't know about where they live.
But I know they would never eat that. Between all their dietary issues
and pickiness it would never work.

Its amazing what people will do when there aren't other options though.
The time has now come where they have to rethink their whole lifestyle.
Its too late to say they should have thought these things out a long
time ago though. I used to care for a man who had a stroke, his wife is
a well known author. They lived not all that far from me but on acres in
this wonderful valley. The wife couldn't look after him and write as
well so she got a nursing service in to do all his personal needs stuff
twice a day. She also hired a woman who came in and cooked fabulous
meals a few times a week. They didn't need to be frozen as she was there
often enough. She would also do a bit of basic housework as well. It
worked for them. I have tried online shopping a couple of times, didn't
like it as much as going to the supermarket myself but that is workable.
You could order for them if they choose that path.


I found out tonight that most likely he will not be allowed to drive for
6 months. He is doing quite well in some ways but there are some memory
issues. We were told this will most likely get better.

I told the person who was working with him that my mom doesn't like to
cook (she took offense to this) and that they normally go out to eat,
which they do. I also told her that he doesn't know how to cook much,
which he doesn't. So she said they would put him in the kitchen and
teach him how to cook a few things. My mom seemed a bit horrified at
this and said he was capable of getting his own cereal and making eggs if
he wanted them. And that she could cook but didn't because *he* liked to
go out to eat. I am not sure how much truth there is in this at all.
Frankly I don't think so.

Yes, I know they both like to go out to eat and always have. But I think
it is more a matter of her not wanting to cook over the years and her
being so limited as to what she will cook.

I guess we will just have to see how that goes. Personally I don't think
she should be allowed to drive but they did just renew her license in
May. She is very stubborn and will fight me tooth and nail if I try to do
the shopping for them (which I likely could not because she is super
picky about brands and things) or even drive them to the store. She
hates to shop and worse yet she and my dad hate to go shopping with me!
I like to go up and down every aisle looking for new products and if I am
going to buy something I read the label. That is not how she shops.
Although my dad does like to look for new things and will frequently pick
up things that catch his eye that are not on the list.

I may have to drive them to some Drs. appointments and such. My SIL has
her hands full with her own parents who are older than mine. And my
nephew is now back in college and baby-sits his girlfriend's nieces and
nephews in his spare time. So that kind of just leaves me.


Dunno how it works there but here, in this situation, a social worker
would come and talk to the patient and spouse/carer to make sure
everything is going to be ok when the patient is discharged. If someone
other than you can do all the talking that your mum hates it might have a
better effect. Eventually your mum will realise she has to "give" on a few
things.


Someone did come in and talk while my mom was out of the room. Then she
came back and pretty much said that everything I said was wrong. Gah!


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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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knowing your limits and those of your brother is an excellent starting
point, it might be a screaming match but you and brother if he will are
going to just have to say, this is what we can do to help, in order to
keep you out of a nursing home this is what we need to have you do... that
could be shopping with you, o r letting you shop for them... i swear julie
scaring them into understanding that once socail services gets into it is
an ok stratedgy, i have seen som horrid results when even well meaning
socail service people get into it, Lee


Well they did seem to be shocked when they were told he couldn't drive for 6
months. I got the idea that they thought after the end of the 2 weeks of
therapy he could be back to normal.

I know he could physically still drive a car but with his memory problems it
could be very dangerous! He currently seems very slow to be able to process
some thoughts.


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"W. Baker" wrote in message
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Tiger Lily wrote:
: On 9/4/2011 6:22 PM, W. Baker wrote:
: Tiger wrote:

: : The is an elderly couple who take a taxi to/from the restaurant
every
: : day for their dinner. Dinner is 4:30 pm for them and they take home
1/2
: : the senior's portion they just ate. The lady indicates that a soft
: : boiled egg, toast and coffee is their morning meal; the left overs
are
: : their mid day meal; dinner ensures they have at least lunch at home
the
: : next day.
:
: : i didn't define elderly
: : he's 102 and she's 97
:
: : kate
:
: Do they have a senior feeding program either like senior lunches for
a
: small fee or meals on wheels whic bring a prepared meal to the house 5
das
: a week? The other meals woul only entail light shopping that your
mother
: could learn to do or that one of you could send over or oder from the
: computer.
:
: Wendy

: Wendy, Meals on Wheels provides this service to the elderly. I don't
: know about the remote area that Julie's parents live in. I know some
: restaurants make your choice from 10 items, prepared in advance, frozen
: and you only need to reheat them. These would be more upscale meals and
: typically are a touch more appealing than the meals on wheels options.

: kate

In the very rural Margateville area there is a senior feeding program at
the local Methodist church(not church run, but gov't run) it has a luch
program for those who can travel or be bussed there and home delivered
meals for those who are homebound. Menus issues monthly-no choice, but
very inexpensive and standard institutional nutritions. Many of the town
have a similar program in Delaware county. Judging from the number of
food stores that Julie seems to have available at less than 50 miles away,
I would say that her area is far less rural than Delaware County.


My parents live in a suburb of Seattle with pretty much all they might need
except perhaps for some medical specialists which is why he was transferred
to that specific hospital. There is a grocery store within walking distance
from their house. Also some restaurants but for the most part not ones they
would eat in. There is a Subway. My dad likes it. My mom does not. My
dad can not walk very far. My mom can, but given her macular degeneration I
feel it would be unsafe for her to go out on her own. She knows that she
has it, but seems to be in severe denial about how bad it is. She still
seems to think that what she sees (or doesn't see) is what everyone else
sees.

When my dad was driving she would yell at him for jerking the car around
having no clue that he had actually changed to another lane. When we would
tell her that he did she would either say that she didn't know or that he
really hadn't done that.

Once I commented on a woman's green eye shadow (she was totally dressed in
green) and my mom tried to tell me that I couldn't see the woman's eyes.
But I clearly could.


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Real Estate investment is totally dependant on circumstances out of our
control. My daughter's partner has been into property investment for
years. He never buys ordinary houses as they are vulnerable to losses
and have smaller profits. He has an eye for where areas are going to
take off. His idea of profit is to buy at 1 million dollars and sell at
1.5+. If he can't sell in a hurry he uses companies that specialise in
executive rentals. There is always someone, especially from overseas,
that want to live in a million dollar property overlooking Sydney
Harbour. All the owner has to do is provide linen (all white) and the
furniture. Executive rentals have always filled that gap for him between
buying and selling.

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i don't care if you bought it new and cheap and it is now worth three
times what you paid... an investment is something that provides
ongoing income a house is not, it is a place you pay rent to yourself
for the priviiligde of living there, nothing more or less, most houses
get sold under stress, a fact that people don't pyay attention to
often, your job changes, you retire or one of you becomes disabled to
the point you must sell or lose everything, there are very few imho
sales that are on the terms of the seller... bless those who can...
one of the best explainations i ever read was that richdad/poor dad
guys explaination of what an investment is... it was funny when we
read it, the dh is reading, and i busted out laughing... he says whats
funny... i said, are you getting royalties or what. Lee
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i meant exactly what i said, focus is you make it a home and you
think it is an investment... i just had a very modest home burn we
paid 35k for that one, the replacement should end up being around
150k and is a bit smaller..

as to the difference in focus, a house is a place to sleep and get
clean and store stuff... my home is wherever dh happens to be and
has no relation to a particular structure/location... housing is not
an investment to me, it only costs money, the only thing we consider
investments are things that generate income. IE

just as i said a difference in focus, please don't take offense at a
perceived judgement that did not occur... Lee


I don't consider our house an investment either. We bought it so
late in life. We bought it when the price was high. Not the highest
but close to it. And now the price is worth less than what we paid.
Houses are just not selling in this neighborhood any more. Yes the
new houses are selling. But not the older ones.






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its a slab house if there is no basement, or there is no foundation
that can be entered to do work on the heating water. the one next
door to my parents house was a slab house, it had carpet and tile
directly on the floor which was concrete, but it was a brick home and
quite cozy and warm in the winter... an older couple lived there, Lee


Our water heater is in the tiny garage. It is called a garage because
there is a garage door but you couldn't fit a car in there. There is
a crawlspace under the house. So maybe not a slab?


No, not a slab.

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"Cheri" wrote in message
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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had we to do it over, we would have rented and banked the
difference, that would have really allowed for a lot more travel,
Lee


We bought our house late in life, and now I wish we had just kept
renting. New roofs, and many upgrades aren't cheap, and moving on in
retirement isn't all that easy with a house to sell, especially in
this market. :-)


I don't know where my husband got this idea from but he thought he
could buy a house and make a ton of money by selling it in a few
years. Nobody could talk him out of that notion. I am sick of this
house and all of its problems.


He is not alone in thinking like that. There are more than a few
companies out there giving people that idea. What he could have saved in
interest could have been used for so many things You don't buy a
house for $100,000 and sell at $200,00 for $100,000 profit. You buy a
house at $100,000 PLUS interest. The profit margin is a hell of a lot
smaller when viewed that way. If he had paid all that interest into his
defence super plan he would have been bucket loads ahead at retirement
time.

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correct its a crawl space house, some have concrete floors under the craw
space most do not, the area is for two purposes, one is to allow work to be
done, and the other is to get it off the ground and allow it to sort of
inusulate the floors from the cold, Lee
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its a slab house if there is no basement, or there is no foundation that
can be entered to do work on the heating water. the one next door to my
parents house was a slab house, it had carpet and tile directly on the
floor which was concrete, but it was a brick home and quite cozy and warm
in the winter... an older couple lived there, Lee


Our water heater is in the tiny garage. It is called a garage because
there is a garage door but you couldn't fit a car in there. There is a
crawlspace under the house. So maybe not a slab?



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then you are making a good parental decision, one of the reasons we can do
as we please is that we are not responsible for any humans except ourselves,
so as long as we have money put back for the cat care its all ours to waste
as we see fit, his stepmother is fixed well as are my parents, and his
mother is fine as long as there arere no emergencies... she still lives on
her own at 86 so we worry about her a lot, but his sister is close, and she
is so very attached to her house, if she were forced to move it would kill
her quickly so we are all resigned to her staying ther until the end, she
would not last a month if she had to move, Lee
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i totally understand, in 92 that is what we were approved for, i choked...
no thanks... but as to angelas dance, if it interests her, and gives her
exercise of mind and body i see no reason you shouldn't try and save to do
it, Lee


Dance is her life. She wants to teach dance when she gets older.



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our yard isn't used except by the birds and wild critters, which for my part
i wish wouldn't be there. i am hoping to do some things to it to make it
more user friendly once we get into the new house, another issue that came
up when the house burnt is that our yard lady retired that year, Lee
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My husband is going to try to do that but I don't know because it is
financed at a pretty low rate. And it needs sooo many repairs it
wouldn't pass inspection. The house is not up to code and we can't
afford to put it that way.

I love renting too. But I couldn't convince my husband to rent. There
are apartments around the corner from here. Angela's friend lives in
them. The rent is half what we pay for a 3 bedroom, 2 full bath. Free
pizza and movies on Mondays and there is a pool and some other
amenities. I would be fine with that. He is not.


Ooo, I would be fine with that too My kids are too old for a yard now
so we don't need one, although I do have Jasmine's trampoline and swing
set in the small one we have. I am surprised the mortgage company
approved the loan with the house not up to code. They need to know they
can get their money of you default. Being a home owner has been instilled
into a lot of people by parents etc and is not necessarily the right
thing for some people.


We rarely ever use the yard. Only if we are stuck at home and it is too
hot to sit in the house which I think is going to happen next week! But
we will be at either the dance studio or hospital our both. Unseasonably
hot temps coming our way. But really we've had no summer.





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