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"Stormmee" > wrote in message ... | LOL, seems to have gone away, Lee | "Julie Bove" > wrote in message | ... | > | > "Stormmee" > wrote in message | > ... | >> could be he might not like the name julie , Lee | > | > Ohhhh... Well then he can call me Julia. That's my given name. | > No, just disinterested. pavane |
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I hate to be wrong, Lee
"pavane" > wrote in message ... > > "Stormmee" > wrote in message > ... > | LOL, seems to have gone away, Lee > | "Julie Bove" > wrote in message > | ... > | > > | > "Stormmee" > wrote in message > | > ... > | >> could be he might not like the name julie , Lee > | > > | > Ohhhh... Well then he can call me Julia. That's my given name. > | > > > No, just disinterested. > > pavane > > |
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On Jun 26, 8:27*am, Bill who putters > wrote:
> In article > >, > > > > > > *Ricavito > wrote: > > On Jun 26, 2:50*am, Nick Cramer > wrote: > > > "Julie Bove" > wrote: > > > > > > Julie. Don't tell anyone, but I was a vegetarian in the late 60's and > > > > > early > > > > > 70's. > > > > > I went mostly vegetarian at about age 12. *We did eat some meat at home, > > > > but we had meatless Mondays, perhaps in an effort to save money and also > > > > had meatless meals other times of the week. *I didn't really think about > > > > it much. > > > > [ . . . ] > > > > I became a vegetarian out of compassion for other living creatures. I > > > stopped after about ten years. Having a steak, charred blood rare, > > > tomorrow. > > > > -- > > > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their > > > families: *https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/**Thank a Veteran! > > > Support Our Troops: *http://anymarine.com/*You are not forgotten. > > > Thanks ! ! * * * * * * * * ~Semper Fi~ * * * * * * * *USMC 1365061- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > This is precisely the problem I have with eating meat, which I have > > never fully given up. *I like a steak cooked just as you described. > > If I had to kill an animal to eat, I don't know if I could do it. I > > can't even fish anymore. *I ran over a small bird that the wind blew > > into my path a few weeks ago, I saw it turn to face me and square its > > little birdy shoulders the instant before I hit it and then I burst > > into tears and had to pull over. *It has gotten so bad that last week > > I got teary eyed and morose after I drowned an ant's nest -- they were > > marching out of the flood carrying the larva on their backs -- they > > want to live too! * I realize this is not a healthy reaction, and > > maybe a little neurotic, but if I have to feel this way, where do I > > draw the line? *Stop eating meat? *Stop driving? *Stop gardening? > > Practically, no. *So I brake for animals and garden without pesticides > > and put up bird feeders and set out food for stray cats and volunteer > > at the animal shelter and give money to the Humane Society and try to > > eat only meat (or eggs, dairy, etc.) from animals that have been > > treated humanely. *That's hard to do sometimes because either you > > don't know for sure or it can be so damn expensive. We're fortunate in > > that we can afford to eat those foods for the most part, but as a > > consequence we do eat less meat and more vegetables -- can't be a bad > > thing ;-) * Of course, lately I've noticed tender feelings toward my > > garden plants. > > > Gosh, I don't know where that came from, but I feel better now :-) > > *Gary Snyder said life requires breaking of the body. > > http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps...nyder/life.htm > > -- > Bill *S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden > * * *What use one more wake up call? *- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - His poetry also makes me cry :-) |
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On Jun 26, 9:50*am, "Stormmee" > wrote:
> remember that many of the animals you eat from the store would have never > been created if not for humans consuming them... so one place you can be > positive is eat farm raised fish... the DH is a carnavore but he hates > killing anything... he draws the line at bugs this way: *if they invade my > space they want to go for the next step... if they stay "out there" its good > to me... i love plants also, its why i don't try and grow them, for me > taking in a plant is true creulty and certain death for the plant, Lee"Ricavito" > wrote in message > > ... > On Jun 26, 2:50 am, Nick Cramer > wrote: > > > > > > > "Julie Bove" > wrote: > > > > > Julie. Don't tell anyone, but I was a vegetarian in the late 60's and > > > > early > > > > 70's. > > > > I went mostly vegetarian at about age 12. We did eat some meat at home, > > > but we had meatless Mondays, perhaps in an effort to save money and also > > > had meatless meals other times of the week. I didn't really think about > > > it much. > > > [ . . . ] > > > I became a vegetarian out of compassion for other living creatures. I > > stopped after about ten years. Having a steak, charred blood rare, > > tomorrow. > > > -- > > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their > > families:https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/Thank a Veteran! > > Support Our Troops:http://anymarine.com/You are not forgotten. > > Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > This is precisely the problem I have with eating meat, which I have > never fully given up. *I like a steak cooked just as you described. > If I had to kill an animal to eat, I don't know if I could do it. I > can't even fish anymore. *I ran over a small bird that the wind blew > into my path a few weeks ago, I saw it turn to face me and square its > little birdy shoulders the instant before I hit it and then I burst > into tears and had to pull over. *It has gotten so bad that last week > I got teary eyed and morose after I drowned an ant's nest -- they were > marching out of the flood carrying the larva on their backs -- they > want to live too! * I realize this is not a healthy reaction, and > maybe a little neurotic, but if I have to feel this way, where do I > draw the line? *Stop eating meat? *Stop driving? *Stop gardening? > Practically, no. *So I brake for animals and garden without pesticides > and put up bird feeders and set out food for stray cats and volunteer > at the animal shelter and give money to the Humane Society and try to > eat only meat (or eggs, dairy, etc.) from animals that have been > treated humanely. *That's hard to do sometimes because either you > don't know for sure or it can be so damn expensive. We're fortunate in > that we can afford to eat those foods for the most part, but as a > consequence we do eat less meat and more vegetables -- can't be a bad > thing ;-) * Of course, lately I've noticed tender feelings toward my > garden plants. > > Gosh, I don't know where that came from, but I feel better now :-)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I was ruthless today to some aphids! |
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Ricavito > wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2:50=A0am, Nick Cramer > wrote: > > "Julie Bove" > wrote: > > > > > > > Julie. Don't tell anyone, but I was a vegetarian in the late 60's > > > > and early > > > > 70's. > > > > > I went mostly vegetarian at about age 12. =A0We did eat some meat at > > > ho= > me, > > > but we had meatless Mondays, perhaps in an effort to save money and > > > als= > o > > > had meatless meals other times of the week. =A0I didn't really think > > > ab= > out > > > it much. > > > [ . . . ] > > > > I became a vegetarian out of compassion for other living creatures. I > > stopped after about ten years. Having a steak, charred blood rare, > > tomorrow. > This is precisely the problem I have with eating meat, which I have > never fully given up. I like a steak cooked just as you described. > If I had to kill an animal to eat, I don't know if I could do it. I > can't even fish anymore. I started killing chickens when I was seven. I was probably younger when I started fishing. I started hunting when I was in my late teens. They all tasted good. > I ran over a small bird that the wind blew into my path a few weeks ago, > I saw it turn to face me and square its little birdy shoulders the > instant before I hit it and then I burst into tears and had to pull > over. I was tooling down the Interstate on my motorcycle, when a pigeon flew into my chest. I had to pull over, too. > It has gotten so bad that last week I got teary eyed and morose > after I drowned an ant's nest -- they were marching out of the flood > carrying the larva on their backs -- they want to live too! Don't drown them! Go to a swimming pool supply store and get the finest grind diatomaceous earth you can. Pour a ring of it around (not over) the entrance to their nest. It's not toxic and works for fleas, too. I use boric (boraxic) acid, which is toxic, for cockroaches. We have no cockroaches. Noo ants or fleas, either. ;-) > I realize this is not a healthy reaction, and maybe a little neurotic, > but if I have to feel this way, where do I draw the line? Stop eating > meat? Stop driving? Stop gardening? Practically, no. So I brake for > animals and garden without pesticides . . . We don't use pesticides because we (including preteen kids) eat the produce. > . . . and put up bird feeders and set out food for stray cats and > volunteer at the animal shelter . . . Are the bird feeders squirrel-safe? I don't think feeding stray cats is a good idea. It encourages bad behavior. > . . . and give money to the Humane Society I hope you carefully researched the agenda of whichever group you're supporting. > . . . and try to eat only meat (or eggs, dairy, etc.) from > animals that have been treated humanely. That's hard to do sometimes > because either you don't know for sure or it can be so damn expensive. > We're fortunate in that we can afford to eat those foods for the most > part, but as a consequence we do eat less meat and more vegetables -- > can't be a bad thing ;-) Of course, lately I've noticed tender feelings > toward my garden plants. Kosher meat comes from animals that have been raised and killed humanely. > Gosh, I don't know where that came from, but I feel better now :-) Good. Keep in touch with your feelings, but thimk! -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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Ricavito > wrote:
> On Jun 26, 8:27=A0am, Bill who putters > wrote: > > [ . . . ] > > =A0Gary Snyder said life requires breaking of the body. > > > > http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps...nyder/life.htm > His poetry also makes me cry :-) Paisana! -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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Nick Cramer > wrote: > > . . . and put up bird feeders and set out food for stray cats and > > volunteer at the animal shelter . . . > > Are the bird feeders squirrel-safe? I don't think feeding stray cats is a > good idea. It encourages bad behavior. My neighbor and I practice TNR -- trap, neuter, release. We currently have two elderly sister feral cats who live in our back yards and whom we care for. They stopped having litters when we got them (and a lot of other local ferals) spay/neutered about 6-8 years ago. Caring for ferals is a special kind of calling, and I laud anyone who does it responsibly. PP |
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feeding can be part of the solution for cats but it can also cause
problems... asto the feeders, someone els e siaid they grease the bird feeder pole, keeps the squirrels off and safe, and calories for the squirrels when he washes his belly and paws, Lee "Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Nick Cramer > wrote: > >> > . . . and put up bird feeders and set out food for stray cats and >> > volunteer at the animal shelter . . . >> >> Are the bird feeders squirrel-safe? I don't think feeding stray cats is a >> good idea. It encourages bad behavior. > > My neighbor and I practice TNR -- trap, neuter, release. We currently > have two elderly sister feral cats who live in our back yards and whom > we care for. They stopped having litters when we got them (and a lot of > other local ferals) spay/neutered about 6-8 years ago. > > Caring for ferals is a special kind of calling, and I laud anyone who > does it responsibly. > > PP |
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Peppermint Patootie > wrote:
> Nick Cramer > wrote: > > > > . . . and put up bird feeders and set out food for stray cats and > > > volunteer at the animal shelter . . . > > > > Are the bird feeders squirrel-safe? I don't think feeding stray cats is > > a good idea. It encourages bad behavior. > > My neighbor and I practice TNR -- trap, neuter, release. We currently > have two elderly sister feral cats who live in our back yards and whom > we care for. They stopped having litters when we got them (and a lot of > other local ferals) spay/neutered about 6-8 years ago. > > Caring for ferals is a special kind of calling, and I laud anyone who > does it responsibly. TNR sounds like a very responsible and kind way of dealing with ferals. I commend you and your neighbor for that. -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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