Hi ~
I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing, but
from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.

I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(

Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive group.

The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.

I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
tomato sandwich. LOL

So.........I'll be drifting in and out.

Bob in Albuquerque

Hi Bob...

This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.

A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.

But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.

More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
yourself, is how your body handles carbs.

This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?

You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.

Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
else.

Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
Pyramid reccomendations?

Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.

Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.

The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:

What do I eat?

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.

What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
much. Still others are somewhere in between.

At the beginning all of us felt frustrated. We wanted to be handed
THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
using the experience of those that went before, but still having
to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.

Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works best
for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.

What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As I'm
sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if you're
a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the rise.

You might want to try some experiments.

First: Eat whatever you've been
currently eating... but write it all down.
Test yourself at the following times:

Upon waking (fasting)
1 hour after each meal
2 hours after each meal
At bedtime

That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
"normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
other carbs gives you a higher reading.

Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.

If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
readings. It's worth a few days to discover.

Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
meter.

The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
need to
follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
treatment and our success.

The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is progressive.
But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
best shot at heath we've got.
That's all we can do.

Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic numbers.

FBG under 100
One hour after meals under 140
Two hours after meals under 120

or for those in the mmol parts of the world:

Fasting Under 6
One hour after meals Under 8
Two hours after meals Under 6.5

Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
"after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
complications, especially heart problems.

Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.

Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn what
foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a science
experiment.

You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.

Best of luck!

Jennifer



Bob-in-Abq wrote:

> Hi ~
> I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing, but
> from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
>
> I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>
> Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive group.
>
> The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>
> I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> tomato sandwich. LOL
>
> So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>
> Bob in Albuquerque
>
>

Hi Bob...

This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.

A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.

But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.

More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
yourself, is how your body handles carbs.

This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?

You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.

Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
else.

Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
Pyramid reccomendations?

Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.

Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.

The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:

What do I eat?

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.

What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
much. Still others are somewhere in between.

At the beginning all of us felt frustrated. We wanted to be handed
THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
using the experience of those that went before, but still having
to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.

Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works best
for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.

What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As I'm
sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if you're
a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the rise.

You might want to try some experiments.

First: Eat whatever you've been
currently eating... but write it all down.
Test yourself at the following times:

Upon waking (fasting)
1 hour after each meal
2 hours after each meal
At bedtime

That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
"normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
other carbs gives you a higher reading.

Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.

If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
readings. It's worth a few days to discover.

Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
meter.

The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
need to
follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
treatment and our success.

The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is progressive.
But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
best shot at heath we've got.
That's all we can do.

Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic numbers.

FBG under 100
One hour after meals under 140
Two hours after meals under 120

or for those in the mmol parts of the world:

Fasting Under 6
One hour after meals Under 8
Two hours after meals Under 6.5

Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
"after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
complications, especially heart problems.

Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.

Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn what
foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a science
experiment.

You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.

Best of luck!

Jennifer



Bob-in-Abq wrote:

> Hi ~
> I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing, but
> from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
>
> I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>
> Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive group.
>
> The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>
> I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> tomato sandwich. LOL
>
> So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>
> Bob in Albuquerque
>
>

Hi Bob...

This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.

A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.

But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.

More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
yourself, is how your body handles carbs.

This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?

You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.

Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
else.

Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
Pyramid reccomendations?

Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.

Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.

The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:

What do I eat?

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.

What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
much. Still others are somewhere in between.

At the beginning all of us felt frustrated. We wanted to be handed
THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
using the experience of those that went before, but still having
to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.

Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works best
for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.

What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As I'm
sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if you're
a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the rise.

You might want to try some experiments.

First: Eat whatever you've been
currently eating... but write it all down.
Test yourself at the following times:

Upon waking (fasting)
1 hour after each meal
2 hours after each meal
At bedtime

That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
"normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
other carbs gives you a higher reading.

Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.

If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
readings. It's worth a few days to discover.

Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
meter.

The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
need to
follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
treatment and our success.

The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is progressive.
But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
best shot at heath we've got.
That's all we can do.

Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic numbers.

FBG under 100
One hour after meals under 140
Two hours after meals under 120

or for those in the mmol parts of the world:

Fasting Under 6
One hour after meals Under 8
Two hours after meals Under 6.5

Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
"after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
complications, especially heart problems.

Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.

Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn what
foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a science
experiment.

You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.

Best of luck!

Jennifer



Bob-in-Abq wrote:

> Hi ~
> I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing, but
> from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
>
> I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>
> Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive group.
>
> The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>
> I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> tomato sandwich. LOL
>
> So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>
> Bob in Albuquerque
>
>

Thank you for your time and comments.
I've copied and saved them.

Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
posts.

One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
some posts he
Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.

Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!

Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.

Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.
--------------------------------------------------
"Jennifer" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Bob...
>
> This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
>
> A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
>
> But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
> to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
> your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
>
> More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
> your blood glucose numbers.
>
> And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
> your blood glucose numbers.
>
> So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
> yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
>
> This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
>
> You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.
>
> Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
> person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
> else.
>
> Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
> Pyramid reccomendations?
>
> Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
>
> Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
>
> The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
>
> What do I eat?
>
> Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
>
> What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
> results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
> great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
> Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
> much. Still others are somewhere in between.
>
> At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
> THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
> learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
> using the experience of those that went before, but still having
> to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.
>
> Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
best
> for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
> you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
>
> What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
I'm
> sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
> Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
> and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
you're
> a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
rise.
>
> You might want to try some experiments.
>
> First: Eat whatever you've been
> currently eating... but write it all down.
> Test yourself at the following times:
>
> Upon waking (fasting)
> 1 hour after each meal
> 2 hours after each meal
> At bedtime
>
> That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
> after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
> "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
> other carbs gives you a higher reading.
>
> Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
> cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
> your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
>
> If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
> readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
>
> Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
> meter.
>
> The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
> need to
> follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
> treatment and our success.
>
> The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
> avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
> everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
progressive.
> But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
> best shot at heath we've got.
> That's all we can do.
>
> Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
numbers.
>
> FBG under 100
> One hour after meals under 140
> Two hours after meals under 120
>
> or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
>
> Fasting Under 6
> One hour after meals Under 8
> Two hours after meals Under 6.5
>
> Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
> "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
> complications, especially heart problems.
>
> Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
> care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
> will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
> diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
>
> Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
> ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
what
> foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
science
> experiment.
>
> You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
> diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
> there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
> and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
> Bob-in-Abq wrote:
>
> > Hi ~
> > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing,
but
> > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
> >
> > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
> >
> > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
group.
> >
> > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
> >
> > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> > tomato sandwich. LOL
> >
> > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
> >
> > Bob in Albuquerque
> >
> >
>

Thank you for your time and comments.
I've copied and saved them.

Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
posts.

One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
some posts he
Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.

Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!

Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.

Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.
--------------------------------------------------
"Jennifer" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Bob...
>
> This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
>
> A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
>
> But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
> to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
> your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
>
> More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
> your blood glucose numbers.
>
> And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
> your blood glucose numbers.
>
> So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
> yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
>
> This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
>
> You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.
>
> Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
> person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
> else.
>
> Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
> Pyramid reccomendations?
>
> Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
>
> Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
>
> The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
>
> What do I eat?
>
> Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
>
> What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
> results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
> great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
> Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
> much. Still others are somewhere in between.
>
> At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
> THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
> learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
> using the experience of those that went before, but still having
> to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.
>
> Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
best
> for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
> you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
>
> What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
I'm
> sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
> Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
> and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
you're
> a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
rise.
>
> You might want to try some experiments.
>
> First: Eat whatever you've been
> currently eating... but write it all down.
> Test yourself at the following times:
>
> Upon waking (fasting)
> 1 hour after each meal
> 2 hours after each meal
> At bedtime
>
> That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
> after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
> "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
> other carbs gives you a higher reading.
>
> Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
> cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
> your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
>
> If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
> readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
>
> Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
> meter.
>
> The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
> need to
> follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
> treatment and our success.
>
> The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
> avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
> everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
progressive.
> But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
> best shot at heath we've got.
> That's all we can do.
>
> Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
numbers.
>
> FBG under 100
> One hour after meals under 140
> Two hours after meals under 120
>
> or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
>
> Fasting Under 6
> One hour after meals Under 8
> Two hours after meals Under 6.5
>
> Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
> "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
> complications, especially heart problems.
>
> Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
> care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
> will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
> diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
>
> Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
> ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
what
> foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
science
> experiment.
>
> You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
> diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
> there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
> and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
> Bob-in-Abq wrote:
>
> > Hi ~
> > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing,
but
> > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
> >
> > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
> >
> > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
group.
> >
> > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
> >
> > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> > tomato sandwich. LOL
> >
> > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
> >
> > Bob in Albuquerque
> >
> >
>

Thank you for your time and comments.
I've copied and saved them.

Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
posts.

One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
some posts he
Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.

Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!

Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.

Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.
--------------------------------------------------
"Jennifer" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Bob...
>
> This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
>
> A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
>
> But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
> to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
> your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
>
> More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
> your blood glucose numbers.
>
> And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
> your blood glucose numbers.
>
> So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
> yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
>
> This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
>
> You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.
>
> Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
> person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
> else.
>
> Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
> Pyramid reccomendations?
>
> Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
>
> Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
>
> The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
>
> What do I eat?
>
> Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
>
> What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
> results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
> great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
> Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
> much. Still others are somewhere in between.
>
> At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
> THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
> learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
> using the experience of those that went before, but still having
> to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.
>
> Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
best
> for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
> you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
>
> What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
I'm
> sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
> Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
> and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
you're
> a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
rise.
>
> You might want to try some experiments.
>
> First: Eat whatever you've been
> currently eating... but write it all down.
> Test yourself at the following times:
>
> Upon waking (fasting)
> 1 hour after each meal
> 2 hours after each meal
> At bedtime
>
> That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
> after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
> "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
> other carbs gives you a higher reading.
>
> Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
> cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
> your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
>
> If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
> readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
>
> Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
> meter.
>
> The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
> need to
> follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
> treatment and our success.
>
> The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
> avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
> everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
progressive.
> But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
> best shot at heath we've got.
> That's all we can do.
>
> Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
numbers.
>
> FBG under 100
> One hour after meals under 140
> Two hours after meals under 120
>
> or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
>
> Fasting Under 6
> One hour after meals Under 8
> Two hours after meals Under 6.5
>
> Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
> "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
> complications, especially heart problems.
>
> Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
> care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
> will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
> diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
>
> Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
> ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
what
> foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
science
> experiment.
>
> You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
> diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
> there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
> and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
> Bob-in-Abq wrote:
>
> > Hi ~
> > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing,
but
> > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
> >
> > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
> >
> > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
group.
> >
> > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
> >
> > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> > tomato sandwich. LOL
> >
> > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
> >
> > Bob in Albuquerque
> >
> >
>

Bob..... trolls abide everywhere

think of them as the party crashers..... no one invited them
no one wants them around
and no one talks to them

takes all kinds.... we just have to ignore some of those kinds.......

kate
--
Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet
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"Bob-in-Abq" > wrote in message
news
> Thank you for your time and comments.
> I've copied and saved them.
>
> Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout
the
> posts.
>
> One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
> some posts he
> Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
> I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
> Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!
>
> Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
> Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use
WebTV.
> --------------------------------------------------
> "Jennifer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Bob...
> >
> > This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
> >
> > A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
> >
> > But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
> > to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
> > your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
> >
> > More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
> > your blood glucose numbers.
> >
> > And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
> > your blood glucose numbers.
> >
> > So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
> > yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
> >
> > This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
> >
> > You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb
Number.
> >
> > Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
> > person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
> > else.
> >
> > Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
> > Pyramid reccomendations?
> >
> > Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
> >
> > Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
> >
> > The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
> >
> > What do I eat?
> >
> > Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
> >
> > What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
> > results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
> > great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
> > Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
> > much. Still others are somewhere in between.
> >
> > At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
> > THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
> > learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
> > using the experience of those that went before, but still having
> > to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were
coexisting.
> >
> > Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
> best
> > for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but
eventually
> > you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
> >
> > What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
> I'm
> > sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
> > Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly.
Protein
> > and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
> you're
> > a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
> rise.
> >
> > You might want to try some experiments.
> >
> > First: Eat whatever you've been
> > currently eating... but write it all down.
> > Test yourself at the following times:
> >
> > Upon waking (fasting)
> > 1 hour after each meal
> > 2 hours after each meal
> > At bedtime
> >
> > That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
> > after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
> > "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
> > other carbs gives you a higher reading.
> >
> > Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
> > cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get
all
> > your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
> >
> > If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
> > readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
> >
> > Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting
your
> > meter.
> >
> > The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
> > need to
> > follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
> > treatment and our success.
> >
> > The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
> > avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
> > everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
> progressive.
> > But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves
the
> > best shot at heath we've got.
> > That's all we can do.
> >
> > Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
> numbers.
> >
> > FBG under 100
> > One hour after meals under 140
> > Two hours after meals under 120
> >
> > or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
> >
> > Fasting Under 6
> > One hour after meals Under 8
> > Two hours after meals Under 6.5
> >
> > Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
> > "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
> > complications, especially heart problems.
> >
> > Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
> > care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
> > will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
> > diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
> >
> > Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
> > ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
> what
> > foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
> science
> > experiment.
> >
> > You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
> > diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn
that
> > there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
> > and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
> >
> > Best of luck!
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob-in-Abq wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ~
> > > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for
testing,
> but
> > > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
> > >
> > > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> > > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
> > >
> > > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
> group.
> > >
> > > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> > > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
> > >
> > > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> > > tomato sandwich. LOL
> > >
> > > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
> > >
> > > Bob in Albuquerque
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Bob..... trolls abide everywhere

think of them as the party crashers..... no one invited them
no one wants them around
and no one talks to them

takes all kinds.... we just have to ignore some of those kinds.......

kate
--
Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet
/server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk
More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/

"Bob-in-Abq" > wrote in message
news
> Thank you for your time and comments.
> I've copied and saved them.
>
> Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout
the
> posts.
>
> One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
> some posts he
> Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
> I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
> Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!
>
> Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
> Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use
WebTV.
> --------------------------------------------------
> "Jennifer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Bob...
> >
> > This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
> >
> > A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
> >
> > But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
> > to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
> > your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
> >
> > More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
> > your blood glucose numbers.
> >
> > And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
> > your blood glucose numbers.
> >
> > So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
> > yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
> >
> > This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
> >
> > You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb
Number.
> >
> > Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
> > person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
> > else.
> >
> > Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
> > Pyramid reccomendations?
> >
> > Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
> >
> > Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
> >
> > The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
> >
> > What do I eat?
> >
> > Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
> >
> > What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
> > results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
> > great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
> > Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
> > much. Still others are somewhere in between.
> >
> > At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
> > THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
> > learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
> > using the experience of those that went before, but still having
> > to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were
coexisting.
> >
> > Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
> best
> > for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but
eventually
> > you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
> >
> > What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
> I'm
> > sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
> > Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly.
Protein
> > and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
> you're
> > a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
> rise.
> >
> > You might want to try some experiments.
> >
> > First: Eat whatever you've been
> > currently eating... but write it all down.
> > Test yourself at the following times:
> >
> > Upon waking (fasting)
> > 1 hour after each meal
> > 2 hours after each meal
> > At bedtime
> >
> > That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
> > after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
> > "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
> > other carbs gives you a higher reading.
> >
> > Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
> > cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get
all
> > your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
> >
> > If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
> > readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
> >
> > Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting
your
> > meter.
> >
> > The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
> > need to
> > follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
> > treatment and our success.
> >
> > The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
> > avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
> > everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
> progressive.
> > But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves
the
> > best shot at heath we've got.
> > That's all we can do.
> >
> > Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
> numbers.
> >
> > FBG under 100
> > One hour after meals under 140
> > Two hours after meals under 120
> >
> > or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
> >
> > Fasting Under 6
> > One hour after meals Under 8
> > Two hours after meals Under 6.5
> >
> > Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
> > "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
> > complications, especially heart problems.
> >
> > Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
> > care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
> > will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
> > diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
> >
> > Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
> > ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
> what
> > foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
> science
> > experiment.
> >
> > You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
> > diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn
that
> > there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
> > and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
> >
> > Best of luck!
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob-in-Abq wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ~
> > > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for
testing,
> but
> > > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
> > >
> > > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> > > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
> > >
> > > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
> group.
> > >
> > > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> > > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
> > >
> > > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> > > tomato sandwich. LOL
> > >
> > > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
> > >
> > > Bob in Albuquerque
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Hi Bob...

Newsgroups are open forums... anyone can stop in and say anything.

Some people use the anonimity to vent. There is a great deal of
wonderful information to be gained from newsgroups, but you have to have
a somewhat thick skin at times.

As for the recent webtv post that was picked upon... I did notice that
the poster asked for emailed responses. That is not how newsgroups
work and had he/she spent a moment or two reading the group they would
have quickly understood the etiquette.

In any case. Welcome! I hope you don't have to join us ; )

Jennifer


Bob-in-Abq wrote:

> Thank you for your time and comments.
> I've copied and saved them.
>
> Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
> posts.
>
> One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
> some posts he
> Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
> I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
> Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!
>
> Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
> Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.

Hi Bob...

Newsgroups are open forums... anyone can stop in and say anything.

Some people use the anonimity to vent. There is a great deal of
wonderful information to be gained from newsgroups, but you have to have
a somewhat thick skin at times.

As for the recent webtv post that was picked upon... I did notice that
the poster asked for emailed responses. That is not how newsgroups
work and had he/she spent a moment or two reading the group they would
have quickly understood the etiquette.

In any case. Welcome! I hope you don't have to join us ; )

Jennifer


Bob-in-Abq wrote:

> Thank you for your time and comments.
> I've copied and saved them.
>
> Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
> posts.
>
> One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
> some posts he
> Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
> I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
> Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!
>
> Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
> Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.

Hi Bob...

Newsgroups are open forums... anyone can stop in and say anything.

Some people use the anonimity to vent. There is a great deal of
wonderful information to be gained from newsgroups, but you have to have
a somewhat thick skin at times.

As for the recent webtv post that was picked upon... I did notice that
the poster asked for emailed responses. That is not how newsgroups
work and had he/she spent a moment or two reading the group they would
have quickly understood the etiquette.

In any case. Welcome! I hope you don't have to join us ; )

Jennifer


Bob-in-Abq wrote:

> Thank you for your time and comments.
> I've copied and saved them.
>
> Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
> posts.
>
> One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
> some posts he
> Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
> I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
> Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!
>
> Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
> Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.

"Bob-in-Abq" > wrote in
ink.net:

> Hi ~
> I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for
> testing, but from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for
> diabetes.
>
> I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>
> Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
> group.
>
> The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>
> I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> tomato sandwich. LOL
>
> So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>
> Bob in Albuquerque
>
>
>

making your own mayo is fairly easy and you can make it taste better than
store bought stuff.
recipes abound on the net. And by adding a bit more garlic or some lime
zest you've got a better tasting product. without sugar and low in carbs.


--
Last year's nuts must go.
- Michael Odom

"Bob-in-Abq" > wrote in
ink.net:

> Hi ~
> I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for
> testing, but from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for
> diabetes.
>
> I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>
> Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
> group.
>
> The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>
> I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> tomato sandwich. LOL
>
> So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>
> Bob in Albuquerque
>
>
>

making your own mayo is fairly easy and you can make it taste better than
store bought stuff.
recipes abound on the net. And by adding a bit more garlic or some lime
zest you've got a better tasting product. without sugar and low in carbs.


--
Last year's nuts must go.
- Michael Odom

"Bob-in-Abq" > wrote in
ink.net:

> Hi ~
> I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for
> testing, but from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for
> diabetes.
>
> I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
> Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>
> Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
> group.
>
> The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
> shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>
> I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
> tomato sandwich. LOL
>
> So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>
> Bob in Albuquerque
>
>
>

making your own mayo is fairly easy and you can make it taste better than
store bought stuff.
recipes abound on the net. And by adding a bit more garlic or some lime
zest you've got a better tasting product. without sugar and low in carbs.


--
Last year's nuts must go.
- Michael Odom

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:46:59 GMT, "Bob-in-Abq"
> wrote:

>Thank you for your time and comments.
>I've copied and saved them.
>
>Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
>posts.
>
>One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
>some posts he
>Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
>I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
>Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!

misunderstood attempt at humor. always remember that the tone of a
post is most often brought by the reader not the poster. of course if
we use explicit insults then you can guess the intended tone quite
easily.

that being said..... webTV? {{{{{shudder}}}}

;} <----Note: that is a winking emoticon.

Mck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."

....Theodore Roosevelt

Have you heard of the NO-CARB Diet for 2004?

NO C-heney
NO A-shcroft
NO R-umsfeld
NO B-ush
And Absolutely NO Rice!



>
>Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
>Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.
>--------------------------------------------------
>"Jennifer" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Bob...
>>
>> This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
>>
>> A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
>>
>> But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
>> to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
>> your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
>>
>> More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
>> your blood glucose numbers.
>>
>> And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
>> your blood glucose numbers.
>>
>> So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
>> yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
>>
>> This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
>>
>> You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.
>>
>> Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
>> person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
>> else.
>>
>> Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
>> Pyramid reccomendations?
>>
>> Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
>>
>> Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
>>
>> The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
>>
>> What do I eat?
>>
>> Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
>>
>> What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
>> results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
>> great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
>> Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
>> much. Still others are somewhere in between.
>>
>> At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
>> THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
>> learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
>> using the experience of those that went before, but still having
>> to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.
>>
>> Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
>best
>> for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
>> you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
>>
>> What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
>I'm
>> sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
>> Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
>> and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
>you're
>> a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
>rise.
>>
>> You might want to try some experiments.
>>
>> First: Eat whatever you've been
>> currently eating... but write it all down.
>> Test yourself at the following times:
>>
>> Upon waking (fasting)
>> 1 hour after each meal
>> 2 hours after each meal
>> At bedtime
>>
>> That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
>> after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
>> "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
>> other carbs gives you a higher reading.
>>
>> Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
>> cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
>> your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
>>
>> If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
>> readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
>>
>> Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
>> meter.
>>
>> The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
>> need to
>> follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
>> treatment and our success.
>>
>> The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
>> avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
>> everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
>progressive.
>> But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
>> best shot at heath we've got.
>> That's all we can do.
>>
>> Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
>numbers.
>>
>> FBG under 100
>> One hour after meals under 140
>> Two hours after meals under 120
>>
>> or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
>>
>> Fasting Under 6
>> One hour after meals Under 8
>> Two hours after meals Under 6.5
>>
>> Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
>> "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
>> complications, especially heart problems.
>>
>> Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
>> care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
>> will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
>> diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
>>
>> Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
>> ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
>what
>> foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
>science
>> experiment.
>>
>> You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
>> diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
>> there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
>> and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob-in-Abq wrote:
>>
>> > Hi ~
>> > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing,
>but
>> > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
>> >
>> > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
>> > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>> >
>> > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
>group.
>> >
>> > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
>> > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>> >
>> > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
>> > tomato sandwich. LOL
>> >
>> > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>> >
>> > Bob in Albuquerque
>> >
>> >
>>
>

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:46:59 GMT, "Bob-in-Abq"
> wrote:

>Thank you for your time and comments.
>I've copied and saved them.
>
>Now I'll go check out the two newsgroups I've seen mentioned throughout the
>posts.
>
>One thing I'd like to address which you did not mention but I've seen in
>some posts he
>Why the 'ragging' on WebTV people?
>I have a pc, but many can't adapt to one.
>
>Some came here looking for advice and were told to go buy a computer!

misunderstood attempt at humor. always remember that the tone of a
post is most often brought by the reader not the poster. of course if
we use explicit insults then you can guess the intended tone quite
easily.

that being said..... webTV? {{{{{shudder}}}}

;} <----Note: that is a winking emoticon.

Mck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."

....Theodore Roosevelt

Have you heard of the NO-CARB Diet for 2004?

NO C-heney
NO A-shcroft
NO R-umsfeld
NO B-ush
And Absolutely NO Rice!



>
>Once you buy a pc, you'll be ragged on if you have a Mac, or use Windows.
>
>Just found it irritating that some were disrespected 'cause they use WebTV.
>--------------------------------------------------
>"Jennifer" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Bob...
>>
>> This group is primarily for recipes and it gets only random traffic.
>>
>> A great place for support is alt.support.diabetes.
>>
>> But to get you started, here's the advice I give all newbies... and just
>> to get you thinking, it's not the mayo in the sandwich that will raise
>> your blood glucose levels... it's the bread.
>>
>> More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
>> your blood glucose numbers.
>>
>> And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
>> your blood glucose numbers.
>>
>> So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
>> yourself, is how your body handles carbs.
>>
>> This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?
>>
>> You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.
>>
>> Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
>> person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
>> else.
>>
>> Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
>> Pyramid reccomendations?
>>
>> Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.
>>
>> Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.
>>
>> The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:
>>
>> What do I eat?
>>
>> Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.
>>
>> What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
>> results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
>> great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
>> Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
>> much. Still others are somewhere in between.
>>
>> At the beginning all of us felt fr ustrated.Wewantedtobehanded
>> THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
>> learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
>> using the experience of those that went before, but still having
>> to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.
>>
>> Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works
>best
>> for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
>> you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.
>>
>> What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As
>I'm
>> sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
>> Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
>> and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if
>you're
>> a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the
>rise.
>>
>> You might want to try some experiments.
>>
>> First: Eat whatever you've been
>> currently eating... but write it all down.
>> Test yourself at the following times:
>>
>> Upon waking (fasting)
>> 1 hour after each meal
>> 2 hours after each meal
>> At bedtime
>>
>> That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
>> after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
>> "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
>> other carbs gives you a higher reading.
>>
>> Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
>> cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
>> your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.
>>
>> If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
>> readings. It's worth a few days to discover.
>>
>> Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
>> meter.
>>
>> The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
>> need to
>> follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
>> treatment and our success.
>>
>> The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
>> avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
>> everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is
>progressive.
>> But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
>> best shot at heath we've got.
>> That's all we can do.
>>
>> Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic
>numbers.
>>
>> FBG under 100
>> One hour after meals under 140
>> Two hours after meals under 120
>>
>> or for those in the mmol parts of the world:
>>
>> Fasting Under 6
>> One hour after meals Under 8
>> Two hours after meals Under 6.5
>>
>> Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
>> "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
>> complications, especially heart problems.
>>
>> Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
>> care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
>> will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
>> diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.
>>
>> Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
>> ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn
>what
>> foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a
>science
>> experiment.
>>
>> You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
>> diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
>> there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
>> and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob-in-Abq wrote:
>>
>> > Hi ~
>> > I just found this group. I see a doctor this coming Friday for testing,
>but
>> > from the symptoms I have I expect to test positive for diabetes.
>> >
>> > I took the ADA's test on their website and scored a 15.
>> > Anything over 10 is supposed to be bad. ;-(
>> >
>> > Anyway, I'm just surfing, looking for a good, friendly, supportive
>group.
>> >
>> > The word 'food' in your title interested me as I just came home from
>> > shopping and was surprised at how few foods seem sugar free or light.
>> >
>> > I was hoping to find an acceptable mayonnaise so I could make myself a
>> > tomato sandwich. LOL
>> >
>> > So.........I'll be drifting in and out.
>> >
>> > Bob in Albuquerque
>> >
>> >
>>
>

http://home.comcast.net/~omnis1/diabet.htm

Has lots of info

HTH
"
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