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ewww i dont wanna eat organik

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I don't want to eat organic if it means giving up tomatoes, greens and
cukes out of season. I'll take hydroponic over organic in February, tyvm.

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> krom wrote:
>> ewww i dont wanna eat organik
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>> KROM
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>> > wrote
>> our site at "organikastores " and a
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>>

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> I don't want to eat organic if it means giving up tomatoes, greens and
> cukes out of season. I'll take hydroponic over organic in February, tyvm.
>
> Vicki



Vicki, that isn't what organic means. What you are describing is about
eating seasonally. Organic means the way the food is grown, that it
doesn't have any chemical fertilizers or pesticides and isn't from
genetically mutated seeds and that sort of thing.

I agree with all those things.... but within reason. Nothing is nicer than
getting really fresh fruits and veggies grown in their proper season. And
dangerous pesticides and fertilizers are not good for anyone.

But freshness counts too.

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"percy" > wrote in message
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> krom wrote:
>> ewww i dont wanna eat organik
>>
>> KROM
>>
>> > wrote
>> our site at "organikastores " and a
>>
>>

>
> I don't want to eat organic if it means giving up tomatoes, greens and
> cukes out of season. I'll take hydroponic over organic in February, tyvm.


I mostly eat organic and I can get that stuff here pretty much year round.
The only seasonal stuff are things like asparagus and those are seasonal
even if not organic.




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"Evelyn" > wrote:

> "percy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > krom wrote:
> >> ewww i dont wanna eat organik
> >>
> >> KROM
> >>
> >> > wrote
> >> our site at "organikastores " and a
> >>
> >>

> >
> > I don't want to eat organic if it means giving up tomatoes, greens and
> > cukes out of season. I'll take hydroponic over organic in February, tyvm.
> >
> > Vicki

>
>
> Vicki, that isn't what organic means. What you are describing is about
> eating seasonally. Organic means the way the food is grown, that it
> doesn't have any chemical fertilizers or pesticides and isn't from
> genetically mutated seeds and that sort of thing.
>
> I agree with all those things.... but within reason. Nothing is nicer than
> getting really fresh fruits and veggies grown in their proper season. And
> dangerous pesticides and fertilizers are not good for anyone.
>
> But freshness counts too.


Exactly. Some fruits and veggies travel and store OK, and others don't.
I rarely eat tomatoes out of season, because it's almost impossible to
get a tomato that tastes like a tomato in the winter. Once my farmstand
opens for the season, I'll probably be able to get the hydroponic
tomatoes that they import from Canada; those are edible, but not by any
stretch of the imagination good.

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> Exactly. Some fruits and veggies travel and store OK, and others don't.
> I rarely eat tomatoes out of season, because it's almost impossible to
> get a tomato that tastes like a tomato in the winter. Once my farmstand
> opens for the season, I'll probably be able to get the hydroponic
> tomatoes that they import from Canada; those are edible, but not by any
> stretch of the imagination good.


One year I had a tomato plant in my kitchen. It was a special kind of
cherry tomato meant for indoor use. I got several pickings from it and then
it just suddenly died overnight. Have never seen one since.


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One of the guys that used to work with my Husband also worked for the
University of AZ's AG program. They grow hydroponic tomatoes.....He would
keep us supplied with fresh tomatoes weekly...they were very tasty. He no
longer works with my Husband so we no longer get free tomatoes. The sweetest
tomato I have ever tasted was at a small cafe in Paris...they probably grew
their own behind there cafe
I remember as a child visiting my Aunt in Idaho, she had a pear tree that we
would pick when the pears were ripened....You can't get those kind of pears
at the grocery store.
Jacquie

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> In article >,
> "Evelyn" > wrote:
>
>> "percy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > krom wrote:
>> >> ewww i dont wanna eat organik
>> >>
>> >> KROM
>> >>
>> >> > wrote
>> >> our site at "organikastores " and a
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I don't want to eat organic if it means giving up tomatoes, greens and
>> > cukes out of season. I'll take hydroponic over organic in February,
>> > tyvm.
>> >
>> > Vicki

>>
>>
>> Vicki, that isn't what organic means. What you are describing is about
>> eating seasonally. Organic means the way the food is grown, that it
>> doesn't have any chemical fertilizers or pesticides and isn't from
>> genetically mutated seeds and that sort of thing.
>>
>> I agree with all those things.... but within reason. Nothing is nicer
>> than
>> getting really fresh fruits and veggies grown in their proper season.
>> And
>> dangerous pesticides and fertilizers are not good for anyone.
>>
>> But freshness counts too.

>
> Exactly. Some fruits and veggies travel and store OK, and others don't.
> I rarely eat tomatoes out of season, because it's almost impossible to
> get a tomato that tastes like a tomato in the winter. Once my farmstand
> opens for the season, I'll probably be able to get the hydroponic
> tomatoes that they import from Canada; those are edible, but not by any
> stretch of the imagination good.
>
> --
> "[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
> This, apparently, upsets the fools."
> ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest
>



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i was joking about the spelling of organic they use in thier site address.

KROM

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>> KROM
>>
>> > wrote
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>>
>>

>
> I don't want to eat organic if it means giving up tomatoes, greens and
> cukes out of season. I'll take hydroponic over organic in February, tyvm.
>
> Vicki



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krom wrote:
> i was joking about the spelling of organic they use in thier site
> address.


Which started a long thread... hee hee. Funny thing is, I read youas being
how you said, so it was amusing to watch the thread grow




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I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess found
in
those that fall off the tree.

Robert Miles

"Jacquie" > wrote in message
...
> One of the guys that used to work with my Husband also worked for the
> University of AZ's AG program. They grow hydroponic tomatoes.....He would
> keep us supplied with fresh tomatoes weekly...they were very tasty. He no
> longer works with my Husband so we no longer get free tomatoes. The
> sweetest tomato I have ever tasted was at a small cafe in Paris...they
> probably grew their own behind there cafe
> I remember as a child visiting my Aunt in Idaho, she had a pear tree that
> we would pick when the pears were ripened....You can't get those kind of
> pears at the grocery store.
> Jacquie
>
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>>> > krom wrote:
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Heck I was a kid and all I knew was they tasted sweet and juicy Besides
back then people weren't always worried about how things were supposed to
be...they just ate it... How do you know when it is two days before they
fall of the tree?
Jacquie
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>I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
> they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess found
> in
> those that fall off the tree.
>
> Robert Miles
>
> "Jacquie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> One of the guys that used to work with my Husband also worked for the
>> University of AZ's AG program. They grow hydroponic tomatoes.....He would
>> keep us supplied with fresh tomatoes weekly...they were very tasty. He no
>> longer works with my Husband so we no longer get free tomatoes. The
>> sweetest tomato I have ever tasted was at a small cafe in Paris...they
>> probably grew their own behind there cafe
>> I remember as a child visiting my Aunt in Idaho, she had a pear tree that
>> we would pick when the pears were ripened....You can't get those kind of
>> pears at the grocery store.
>> Jacquie
>>
>> "Alice Faber" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> "Evelyn" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "percy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > krom wrote:
>>>> >> ewww i dont wanna eat organik
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>>>> >> KROM
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:29:14 -0500, "Robert Miles"
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>I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
>they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess found
>in
>those that fall off the tree.


Is that what causes it? I used to really dislike that texture, back in
the days before I knew a pear would send my bg through the roof!

Nicky.
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heh yeah


KROM

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Nicky > wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:29:14 -0500, "Robert Miles"
> > wrote:
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> >I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
> >they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess found
> >in
> >those that fall off the tree.

>
> Is that what causes it? I used to really dislike that texture, back in
> the days before I knew a pear would send my bg through the roof!


Yeah...pears were one of my favorite fruits, back then. But I almost
never bought them because it was such a crapshoot. I'd buy 4 pairs, and
get two tasteless ones, one grainy one, and one sublime one.

The best dessert I *ever* had, almost 20 years ago at a trendy
restaurant, was two pear halves poached in some kind of cinnamon/white
wine/something or other and dipped in dark chocolate.

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"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
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>I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
> they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess found
> in
> those that fall off the tree.


I've never read this. We have two pear trees. I've always read to pick
them green and let them ripen off the tree. Why? I don't know. I have
eaten ripe pears straight from the tree and they were fine.


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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
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>>I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
>> they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess
>> found in
>> those that fall off the tree.

>
> I've never read this. We have two pear trees. I've always read to pick
> them green and let them ripen off the tree. Why? I don't know. I have
> eaten ripe pears straight from the tree and they were fine.

That leads me to suspect that, for your trees, those you pick are OK,
but not necessarily those that fall off.


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"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>>I thought I'd read that the best pears were picked about two days before
>>> they fall off the tree, to prevent the development of the graininess
>>> found in
>>> those that fall off the tree.

>>
>> I've never read this. We have two pear trees. I've always read to pick
>> them green and let them ripen off the tree. Why? I don't know. I have
>> eaten ripe pears straight from the tree and they were fine.

> That leads me to suspect that, for your trees, those you pick are OK,
> but not necessarily those that fall off.


You should NEVER eat fruit that has fallen off unless you actually see it
fall off and know exactly which piece it is. Why? Fruit that is sitting on
the ground is more likely to have a worm in it.


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