I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before I
realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.

I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult for
the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
difficult to place your finger on to pulse.

I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course, it
doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for a
replacement for.

I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what it
does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use it.
I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
price.

I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes

Thanks for any advise.
Dee

"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
...
> I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
> processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
> have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before
I
> realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
>
> I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
> husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
> It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult for
> the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
>
> I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course, it
> doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for a
> replacement for.
>
> I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what
it
> does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use
it.
> I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
> price.
>
> I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
>
> Thanks for any advise.
> Dee

I have been using my Braun food process for well over a decade and it has
worked well. I use it for dough about twice a week. The old model that I
have is 400 watts but the newer ones are either 600 or 800 watts. They come
with a nice assortment of attachments and replacement bowls are very
inexpensive. One thing that I like about the Braun is that it variable
power so you can better match the speed to the task. You can take a look
he
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...le &scoring=p

"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
...
> I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
> processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
> have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before
I
> realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
>
> I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
> husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
> It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult for
> the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
>
> I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course, it
> doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for a
> replacement for.
>
> I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what
it
> does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use
it.
> I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
> price.
>
> I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
>
> Thanks for any advise.

I have been very happy with my KitchenAid food processor. In 6.5 years of
service, never a hiccup. I have never attempted bread dough in it, but pie
crust and other pastry doughs present no problems for it. I think that if
you really want to knead a lot of bread dough, you should probably opt for
the stand mixer, if that is an option for you.

Remsleep

"Remsleep" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> "Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
> ...
> > I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
> > processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
> > have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully,
before
> I
> > realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
> >
> > I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
> > husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe
movement.
> > It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> > around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult
for
> > the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> > difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
> >
> > I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course,
it
> > doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for
a
> > replacement for.
> >
> > I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what
> it
> > does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use
> it.
> > I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it
in
> > price.
> >
> > I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
> >
> > Thanks for any advise.
>
> I have been very happy with my KitchenAid food processor. In 6.5 years of
> service, never a hiccup. I have never attempted bread dough in it, but
pie
> crust and other pastry doughs present no problems for it. I think that if
> you really want to knead a lot of bread dough, you should probably opt for
> the stand mixer, if that is an option for you.
>

I used to make all my bread dough in the KA stand mixer until I tried the
food processor. I was amazed at how much quicker and less messy it was to
use the food processor. I could make several batches of dough in the FP in
the time it takes to make one batch in the stand mixer, especially when you
factor in the time to clean-up the inevitable mess caused by the over-spray
of flour.

"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Remsleep" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> >
> > "Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on
food
> > > processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past
I
> > > have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully,
> before
> > I
> > > realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
> > >
> > > I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and
my
> > > husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe
> movement.
> > > It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> > > around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult
> for
> > > the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> > > difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
> > >
> > > I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of
course,
> it
> > > doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking
for
> a
> > > replacement for.
> > >
> > > I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for
what
> > it
> > > does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't
use
> > it.
> > > I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it
> in
> > > price.
> > >
> > > I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advise.
> >
> > I have been very happy with my KitchenAid food processor. In 6.5 years
of
> > service, never a hiccup. I have never attempted bread dough in it, but
> pie
> > crust and other pastry doughs present no problems for it. I think that
if
> > you really want to knead a lot of bread dough, you should probably opt
for
> > the stand mixer, if that is an option for you.
> >
>
> I used to make all my bread dough in the KA stand mixer until I tried the
> food processor. I was amazed at how much quicker and less messy it was to
> use the food processor. I could make several batches of dough in the FP
in
> the time it takes to make one batch in the stand mixer, especially when
you
> factor in the time to clean-up the inevitable mess caused by the
over-spray
> of flour.
>
Thanks for the recommendation for the Braun and giving me the wattage. It
jogged my memory that I did have a Braun in between my 2 Cuisinarts -- the
stem that the blade mounts onto, split on me right up the middle,
collecting goop and not looking too safe. It could be that I had too light
of one to be making dough with -- I don't recollect the power of it. But
I'll certainly look at it because of your recommendation.

I do use a KA stand mixer and like and use it, as well as a food processor.
[One can never get enough help.]

Dee

I would agree with Remsleep...for a better texture in bread, get the mixer!
I have the kitchenaid 11-cup and although it does bread fine, I get better
texture results in the mixer. Also, the FP has stalled on me before while
doing a tough loaf of bread. It can also only fit one loaf, rather than
several in the mixer.


"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Remsleep" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> >
> > "Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on
food
> > > processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past
I
> > > have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully,
> before
> > I
> > > realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
> > >
> > > I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and
my
> > > husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe
> movement.
> > > It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> > > around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult
> for
> > > the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> > > difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
> > >
> > > I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of
course,
> it
> > > doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking
for
> a
> > > replacement for.
> > >
> > > I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for
what
> > it
> > > does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't
use
> > it.
> > > I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it
> in
> > > price.
> > >
> > > I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advise.
> >
> > I have been very happy with my KitchenAid food processor. In 6.5 years
of
> > service, never a hiccup. I have never attempted bread dough in it, but
> pie
> > crust and other pastry doughs present no problems for it. I think that
if
> > you really want to knead a lot of bread dough, you should probably opt
for
> > the stand mixer, if that is an option for you.
> >
>
> I used to make all my bread dough in the KA stand mixer until I tried the
> food processor. I was amazed at how much quicker and less messy it was to
> use the food processor. I could make several batches of dough in the FP
in
> the time it takes to make one batch in the stand mixer, especially when
you
> factor in the time to clean-up the inevitable mess caused by the
over-spray
> of flour.
>
>

"Lorea" > wrote in message
...
> I would agree with Remsleep...for a better texture in bread, get the
mixer!
> I have the kitchenaid 11-cup and although it does bread fine, I get better
> texture results in the mixer. Also, the FP has stalled on me before while
> doing a tough loaf of bread. It can also only fit one loaf, rather than
> several in the mixer.

I don't see any difference between the two machines in terms of the dough
quality. If you do have to make a large batch of dough, it might be a
toss-up. There are only two of us, so I never need more than two loaves at
once. It is possible, but not practice, to make three at once in the stand
mixer. It is my experience that I can make a more hydrated dough in the FP
than in the mixer, but I guess baking is largely art and experience so
different people get different results.

Somehow I suspect the food processor...how can it accomplish in 45 seconds
what takes 10 minutes with the dough hooks? It seem too good to be true. The
suspicion persists even though the dough appears fine. I do notice that the
FP tends to heat the dough up quite a bit and it is necessary to start with
cold water or the dough will overheat.


"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Lorea" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I would agree with Remsleep...for a better texture in bread, get the
> mixer!
> > I have the kitchenaid 11-cup and although it does bread fine, I get
better
> > texture results in the mixer. Also, the FP has stalled on me before
while
> > doing a tough loaf of bread. It can also only fit one loaf, rather than
> > several in the mixer.
>
> I don't see any difference between the two machines in terms of the dough
> quality. If you do have to make a large batch of dough, it might be a
> toss-up. There are only two of us, so I never need more than two loaves
at
> once. It is possible, but not practice, to make three at once in the
stand
> mixer. It is my experience that I can make a more hydrated dough in the
FP
> than in the mixer, but I guess baking is largely art and experience so
> different people get different results.
>
>

"Jack Denver" > wrote in message
...
> Somehow I suspect the food processor...how can it accomplish in 45 seconds
> what takes 10 minutes with the dough hooks? It seem too good to be true.
The
> suspicion persists even though the dough appears fine. I do notice that
the
> FP tends to heat the dough up quite a bit and it is necessary to start
with
> cold water or the dough will overheat.
>
>
> "Vox Humana" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Lorea" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I would agree with Remsleep...for a better texture in bread, get the
> > mixer!
> > > I have the kitchenaid 11-cup and although it does bread fine, I get
> better
> > > texture results in the mixer. Also, the FP has stalled on me before
> while
> > > doing a tough loaf of bread. It can also only fit one loaf, rather
than
> > > several in the mixer.
> >
> > I don't see any difference between the two machines in terms of the
dough
> > quality. If you do have to make a large batch of dough, it might be a
> > toss-up. There are only two of us, so I never need more than two loaves
> at
> > once. It is possible, but not practice, to make three at once in the
> stand
> > mixer. It is my experience that I can make a more hydrated dough in the
> FP
> > than in the mixer, but I guess baking is largely art and experience so
> > different people get different results.
> >
....how can it accomplish in 45 seconds
> what takes 10 minutes with the dough hooks? It seem too good to be true.

I saw one of Julia's guests say on one of her bread-making shows (can't
remember which baker said it now), that for a long time he thought that
there was a difference in the two techniques, but he feels now that there
isn't.

There are instructions regarding the FP not to process over a certain temp.
But also it shows you how to combine the temp of the flour and the temp of
the water to bring it to a certain temp before you start processing. I
thought this would be a big problem, but it really is not because you have
ice/microwave closeby to bring your water to the correct temp to add. If
you do this and do not process your bread not over the temp allowed, there
is no problem. It is no problem to not overprocess your bread, if you are
aware of the correct ingredients.

Regarding the 10 minutes with the dough hooks -- my old Kitchen Aid actually
did require 10 minutes and I think some of the older cookbooks are outdated
IMO as the new KA instructions are actually only 2 minutes of kneading about
pulling together from the sides. This is hard for me to do as my brain in
scheduled to go 10 minutes, so I go a little longer than 2 minutes. So-- my
point is -- when comparing a FP's about 45-60 seconds after the dough
pulling together and the KA's 2 minutes of kneading, there might not be that
much difference now-days.

Above is really the reason I like both and want to use both.
dee

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:52:02 -0500, "Dee Randall"
<deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote:

>I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
>processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
>have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before I
>realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
>
>I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
>husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
>It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
>around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult for
>the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
>difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
>
>I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course, it
>doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for a
>replacement for.
>
>I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what it
>does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use it.
>I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
>price.
>
>I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
>
>Thanks for any advise.
>Dee
>
>

I've had trouble removing the work bowl on my Cuisinart too Dee! I
think I will go get a "rubber mallet" in the tool department at Home
Depot and every time I try to remove the work bowl, I will tap the
handle lightly with the rubber mallet to loosen it.

You know, I don't remember having this problem with the first work
bowl that came with my Cuisinart ten years ago but I have since
cracked several of them and replaced them. Could it be that the new
company running Cusinart has cheapened up the design of the work bowl
by making it thinner plastic? I believe so! Damn, I think some hair
dryer company has bought Cuisinart...is it Conair?

Regards,
Bill

"Jack Denver" > wrote in message
...
> Somehow I suspect the food processor...how can it accomplish in 45 seconds
> what takes 10 minutes with the dough hooks? It seem too good to be true.
The
> suspicion persists even though the dough appears fine. I do notice that
the
> FP tends to heat the dough up quite a bit and it is necessary to start
with
> cold water or the dough will overheat.

I understand what you are saying and that is why I never considered using
the FP for dough until I kept seeing it used more frequently on TV. I
pulled out a Julia Child cookbook and followed the direction. It seems
counterintuitive to be able to make bread in a couple of minutes, but it
does work. If you follow the direction is the KA cookbook that comes with
their stand mixer, they recommend that you only knead the dough for 3 - 4
minutes after it forms a ball. When I make bread, I use the rapid mix
method with instant yeast. In the FP, I use liquids right from the
refrigerator and water from the tap. I don't heat anything.

"Vox Humana" > wrote:

>
>"Jack Denver" > wrote in message
...
>> Somehow I suspect the food processor...how can it accomplish in 45 seconds
>> what takes 10 minutes with the dough hooks? It seem too good to be true.
>The
>> suspicion persists even though the dough appears fine. I do notice that
>the
>> FP tends to heat the dough up quite a bit and it is necessary to start
>with
>> cold water or the dough will overheat.
>
>I understand what you are saying and that is why I never considered using
>the FP for dough until I kept seeing it used more frequently on TV. I
>pulled out a Julia Child cookbook and followed the direction. It seems
>counterintuitive to be able to make bread in a couple of minutes, but it
>does work. If you follow the direction is the KA cookbook that comes with
>their stand mixer, they recommend that you only knead the dough for 3 - 4
>minutes after it forms a ball. When I make bread, I use the rapid mix
>method with instant yeast. In the FP, I use liquids right from the
>refrigerator and water from the tap. I don't heat anything.
>


And isn't it nice to have a fresh loaf of bread for about 2 minutes
processing time. The rest of the process is the same whether you use
a FP or stand mixer.


--
Susan N.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who do not.

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> "Vox Humana" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jack Denver" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Somehow I suspect the food processor...how can it accomplish in 45
seconds
> >> what takes 10 minutes with the dough hooks? It seem too good to be
true.
> >The
> >> suspicion persists even though the dough appears fine. I do notice that
> >the
> >> FP tends to heat the dough up quite a bit and it is necessary to start
> >with
> >> cold water or the dough will overheat.
> >
> >I understand what you are saying and that is why I never considered using
> >the FP for dough until I kept seeing it used more frequently on TV. I
> >pulled out a Julia Child cookbook and followed the direction. It seems
> >counterintuitive to be able to make bread in a couple of minutes, but it
> >does work. If you follow the direction is the KA cookbook that comes
with
> >their stand mixer, they recommend that you only knead the dough for 3 - 4
> >minutes after it forms a ball. When I make bread, I use the rapid mix
> >method with instant yeast. In the FP, I use liquids right from the
> >refrigerator and water from the tap. I don't heat anything.
> >
>
>
> And isn't it nice to have a fresh loaf of bread for about 2 minutes
> processing time. The rest of the process is the same whether you use
> a FP or stand mixer.

Yes, and without the mess. Maybe it's just me, but I can't make bread in
the stand mixer without the flour spraying out. That two piece pouring
shield is a waste of plastic as it doesn't help and it is always in the
way -- then you have to wash it. The FP contains all the mess. I know that
if I pour flour into the bowl, about one pound or 450-500 grams is at the
level where the hub on the blade forms a shoulder so I don't bother to
measure the flour. I can also make successive batches of different dough
very quickly if needed - something that I wouldn't consider with the stand
mixer.

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:52:02 -0500, "Dee Randall"
> <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote:
>
> >I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
> >processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
> >have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before
I
> >realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
> >
> >I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
> >husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
> >It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> >around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult
for
> >the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> >difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
> >
> >I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course,
it
> >doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for
a
> >replacement for.
> >
> >I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what
it
> >does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use
it.
> >I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
> >price.
> >
> >I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
> >
> >Thanks for any advise.
> >Dee
> >
> >
>
> I've had trouble removing the work bowl on my Cuisinart too Dee! I
> think I will go get a "rubber mallet" in the tool department at Home
> Depot and every time I try to remove the work bowl, I will tap the
> handle lightly with the rubber mallet to loosen it.
>
> You know, I don't remember having this problem with the first work
> bowl that came with my Cuisinart ten years ago but I have since
> cracked several of them and replaced them. Could it be that the new
> company running Cusinart has cheapened up the design of the work bowl
> by making it thinner plastic? I believe so! Damn, I think some hair
> dryer company has bought Cuisinart...is it Conair?
>
> Regards,
> Bill


Hello Bill, a Rubber Mallet! Very creative!
-- On alt.bread.recipes Barry wrote some hints to me, thinking that I still
had this cuisinart. Perhaps you can subscribe to it and see his very
helpful instructions. I hesitate to post someonelse's email even tho it is
on a newsgroup. But you might see something that can help with this nasty
problem. This is exactly why I don't want to buy yet another one. Just
can't take that chance.

Dee


>
>

Dee I think a food processor is a pretty crappy appliance to use for
dough. I use my Breadman 440 if I'm in a hurry and I use the Kitchen-aid
if I want to watch the paddle do its number.
Cheers,
Kent

Dee Randall wrote:
>
> I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
> processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
> have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before I
> realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
>
> I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
> husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
> It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult for
> the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
>
> I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course, it
> doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for a
> replacement for.
>
> I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what it
> does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use it.
> I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
> price.
>
> I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
>
> Thanks for any advise.
> Dee

I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I believe that
you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
Amazon.com and cooking.com

"Kent H." > wrote in message
...
> Dee I think a food processor is a pretty crappy appliance to use for
> dough. I use my Breadman 440 if I'm in a hurry and I use the Kitchen-aid
> if I want to watch the paddle do its number.
> Cheers,
> Kent
>

You use the paddle on your mixer for dough?

Dee Randall wrote:
>
> I tried searching the rec. & alt. archives for recommendations on food
> processors, but didn't succeed find anything. I know that in the past I
> have recommended the Cuisinart to others, and did it, regretfully, before I
> realized the severity of my problem with the Cuisinart.
>
> I recently returned my Cuisinart 11 cup food processor due to me (and my
> husband's) inability to remove the bowl without the most severe movement.
> It was impossible to use on my own and he had to "be called" or "stand
> around" moving the bowl back and forth for me. It also was difficult for
> the 6'2" man to do. Also the pulse button became indented and it was
> difficult to place your finger on to pulse.
>
> I have a very inexpensive Hamilton-Beach food processor, but of course, it
> doesn't do "dough," which is the type of food processor I am looking for a
> replacement for.
>
> I know that it sounds incongruous that I still think Cuisinart, for what it
> does, is still the "best buy" in food processors even though I can't use it.
> I would like something comparable, but I know I'm not going to find it in
> price.
>
> I am posting this to both rec.food equipment and alt.bread.recipes
>
> Thanks for any advise.
> Dee

I like my Magimix 5100. It can do a 3 lb bread load. That's 3 lbs of
dough, not 3 lbs of flour! I did make that mistake, and over heated
it. The safety switch cut in and the motor cut out... 10 minutes
later, it was working fine, after cooling down. It's a good strong
machine.

The thing I find with making bread in the food processor is that you
have to give it time after it's mixed for the gluten to work. It may
need a longer proving time than you are used to before being knocked
back and shaped for loaves or rolls.

Someone elsewhere in the thread mentioned the dough getting too warm.
In 20 years of bread making with a food processor, I have never had this
problem. I have used both this processor and it's much smaller Mulinex
predecessor, as well as numerous others in other peoples kitchens, and
it has never happened.

Using the dough hook in a food mixer is also a good way to do this.
There are therapeutic reasons for making bread the old fashioned hand
cranked way, but not if, like me, you suffer from RSI and Fibromyalgia.

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"Gabe" > wrote in message
t...
> I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I believe
that
> you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
> Amazon.com and cooking.com
>
>
Unfortunately for the original poster, however, the Kitchen Aid's are made
by Cuisinart. Take care.

Fred
The Good Gourmet
http://www.thegoodgourmet.com

"Fred" wrote:
> "Gabe" wrote:
> > I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I believe
> that
> > you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
> > Amazon.com and cooking.com
> >
> >
> Unfortunately for the original poster, however, the Kitchen Aid's are made
> by Cuisinart. Take care.

But does the KitchenAid have the same design problem her Cuisinart has (that
is, she has trouble wrestling the bowl off the machine)?

I don't have that problem at all with the Kitchenaid. I noticed on
foodnetwork, shows they also had problems getting the bowl off the machine.
With the kichenAid, I twist to the side w/o any problems and it come off
easy. No Wrestling at all!!!!!!
"Pennyaline" > wrote in
message ...

> But does the KitchenAid have the same design problem her Cuisinart has
(that
> is, she has trouble wrestling the bowl off the machine)?
>
>

Dee,
I don't know the significance of who makes the KitchenAid. All I can said
was that I have been totally satisfied with it.
I replied to the initial thread regarding recommendations and mentioned
that I had the "KitchenAid" and was satisfied, someone replied it was made
by cuisinart and then someone else replied that it was made by Robocoupe. I
don't know the significane of who it's made by, all I can say is that I love
it.


"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:16:34 GMT, "Fred" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Gabe" > wrote in message
> > et...
> > >> I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I
believe
> > >that
> > >> you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
> > >> Amazon.com and cooking.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >Unfortunately for the original poster, however, the Kitchen Aid's are
> made
> > >by Cuisinart. Take care.
> >
> > >
> > Unfortunately for Fred the Kitchen Aids are made by Robocoupe in
> > France.
> >
> > Andrew
>
> I'm don't understand this thread of replies.
> Are the KitchenAids made by Robocoupe? and what is the significance of
this?
> Dee
>
>
>

Fred, you are confused. The ORIGINAL Cuisinarts (the good ones) were made by
RobotCoupe of France. Cuisinart then moved manufacturing to Japan (not too
bad) and then was sold out to Conair, maker of cheap hairdryers, who moved
production to China (very bad). Meanwhile, RobotCoupe was left without an
outlet for their consumer grade machines (they continued to sell pro
machines under their own label). KitchenAid then picked up the Robot Coupe
line. So KitchenAids today are more authentic "Cuisinart" than the machines
that say "Cuisinart" on them. Whatever problems Dee had with the current
POS Cuisinarts are unlikely to be found on the KitchenAid machines, which
have a good reputation.


"Fred" > wrote in message
. net...
>
> "Gabe" > wrote in message
> t...
> > I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I believe
> that
> > you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
> > Amazon.com and cooking.com
> >
> >
> Unfortunately for the original poster, however, the Kitchen Aid's are made
> by Cuisinart. Take care.
>
> Fred
> The Good Gourmet
> http://www.thegoodgourmet.com
>
>

"Jack Denver" > wrote in message
...
> Fred, you are confused. The ORIGINAL Cuisinarts (the good ones) were made
by
> RobotCoupe of France. Cuisinart then moved manufacturing to Japan (not too
> bad) and then was sold out to Conair, maker of cheap hairdryers, who moved
> production to China (very bad). Meanwhile, RobotCoupe was left without an
> outlet for their consumer grade machines (they continued to sell pro
> machines under their own label). KitchenAid then picked up the Robot Coupe
> line. So KitchenAids today are more authentic "Cuisinart" than the
machines
> that say "Cuisinart" on them. Whatever problems Dee had with the current
> POS Cuisinarts are unlikely to be found on the KitchenAid machines, which
> have a good reputation.
>
>
> "Fred" > wrote in message
> . net...
> >
> > "Gabe" > wrote in message
> > t...
> > > I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I believe
> > that
> > > you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
> > > Amazon.com and cooking.com
> > >
> > >
> > Unfortunately for the original poster, however, the Kitchen Aid's are
made
> > by Cuisinart. Take care.
> >
> > Fred
> > The Good Gourmet
> > http://www.thegoodgourmet.com
> >
> >
>
>
Phew! I was confused on the previous postings. I'm sooo glad you cleared it
up. I'll keep this postings to refer to, as you seem to know exactly what
you're talking about.
My appreciation,
Dee

"Jack Denver" > wrote in message
...
> Fred, you are confused. The ORIGINAL Cuisinarts (the good ones) were made
by
> RobotCoupe of France. Cuisinart then moved manufacturing to Japan (not too
> bad) and then was sold out to Conair, maker of cheap hairdryers, who moved
> production to China (very bad). Meanwhile, RobotCoupe was left without an
> outlet for their consumer grade machines (they continued to sell pro
> machines under their own label). KitchenAid then picked up the Robot Coupe
> line. So KitchenAids today are more authentic "Cuisinart" than the
machines
> that say "Cuisinart" on them. Whatever problems Dee had with the current
> POS Cuisinarts are unlikely to be found on the KitchenAid machines, which
> have a good reputation.
>
>
> "Fred" > wrote in message
> . net...
> >
> > "Gabe" > wrote in message
> > t...
> > > I have the Kitchen Aid 11 cup food processor and I LOVE IT. I believe
> > that
> > > you can now get a 30 rebate on it and it cost around 160. Check out
> > > Amazon.com and cooking.com
> > >
> > >
> > Unfortunately for the original poster, however, the Kitchen Aid's are
made
> > by Cuisinart. Take care.
> >
> > Fred
> > The Good Gourmet
> > http://www.thegoodgourmet.com
> >
Jack, I forgot to ask
what is
"current
POS Cuisinarts"
Thanks,
Dee

Current meaning the current models like the one you returned.

POS stands for "Piece of Doo-doo", which is what they are. The motors are
weak. The bowls break (especially the long plastic "fingers" on the pusher -
the product in engineered to more or less work when you get it home, but is
virtually guaranteed to break in the long run because a thin section of
plastic can't possibly hold up as an item under load. Mine is currently
epoxied together. I'm sure the engineers told this to management and I'm
sure management told them "we don't care") When it does break, they charge
so much for parts that it's cheaper to by a whole new machine, which I
suppose is the point. This approach is okay in a $10 hairdryer, but not in a
$200 machine. Conair is milking the Cuisinart name for all that it is worth,
putting it on all kinds of cheap junk. Eventually that will catch up with
them (if it hasn't already) but in the meantime they are making a ton of
money .


"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
...
>
> > >
> Jack, I forgot to ask
> what is
> "current
> POS Cuisinarts"
> Thanks,
> Dee
>
>