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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:41:14 -0600, Chemiker > wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:38:38 +0000 (UTC), (Patti >Beadles) wrote: > >>The major thing missing from my kitchen right now is a cast iron >>skillet. > >You might consider hitting Loew's of Home Depot and get yourself a >sanding "mouse", a vibrating sander with precut sanding sheets. >They're not $$$, and with sales you should be able to snag one >on the cheap. Nice reply, only five and a half years too late. How's the weather on Pluto? 8;) -- Larry |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:38:28 -0500, pltrgyst
> wrote: >On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:41:14 -0600, Chemiker > wrote: > >>On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:38:38 +0000 (UTC), (Patti >>Beadles) wrote: >> >>>The major thing missing from my kitchen right now is a cast iron >>>skillet. >> >>You might consider hitting Loew's of Home Depot and get yourself a >>sanding "mouse", a vibrating sander with precut sanding sheets. >>They're not $$$, and with sales you should be able to snag one >>on the cheap. > >Nice reply, only five and a half years too late. > Huh? Leow's and HD are doing well in my area. Last time I was in one there were mouse-type trim sanders for sale. Did I miss a time- warp? Does this mean I can't buy precuts for my two (different branded) trim sanders? No matter. The principle stands. Alex - who'll get into the precut sander sheet market. |
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"Chemiker" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:38:28 -0500, pltrgyst > > wrote: > >>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:41:14 -0600, Chemiker > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:38:38 +0000 (UTC), (Patti >>>Beadles) wrote: >>> >>>>The major thing missing from my kitchen right now is a cast iron >>>>skillet. >>> >>>You might consider hitting Loew's of Home Depot and get yourself a >>>sanding "mouse", a vibrating sander with precut sanding sheets. >>>They're not $$$, and with sales you should be able to snag one >>>on the cheap. >> >>Nice reply, only five and a half years too late. >> > Huh? > > Leow's and HD are doing well in my area. Last time I was in one > there were mouse-type trim sanders for sale. Did I miss a time- > warp? Does this mean I can't buy precuts for my two (different > branded) trim sanders? > > No matter. The principle stands. > > Alex - who'll get into the precut sander sheet market. Look at the date on the original post. It is 2003 In any case, Wagnerware is smoother. Available direct from Wagner. |
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:11:30 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote: > >"Chemiker" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:38:28 -0500, pltrgyst >> > wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:41:14 -0600, Chemiker > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:38:38 +0000 (UTC), (Patti >>>>Beadles) wrote: >>>> >>>>>The major thing missing from my kitchen right now is a cast iron >>>>>skillet. >>>> >>>>You might consider hitting Loew's of Home Depot and get yourself a >>>>sanding "mouse", a vibrating sander with precut sanding sheets. >>>>They're not $$$, and with sales you should be able to snag one >>>>on the cheap. >>> >>>Nice reply, only five and a half years too late. >>> >> Huh? >> >> Leow's and HD are doing well in my area. Last time I was in one >> there were mouse-type trim sanders for sale. Did I miss a time- >> warp? Does this mean I can't buy precuts for my two (different >> branded) trim sanders? >> >> No matter. The principle stands. >> >> Alex - who'll get into the precut sander sheet market. > >Look at the date on the original post. It is 2003 > >In any case, Wagnerware is smoother. Available direct from Wagner. > That's some great thread retention. What newserver are you using? |
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Moka Java > wrote:
> > What exactly is the problem with the texture on modern Lodge cast iron? > Is it aesthetic or do you actually find it cooks differently? I > haven't used a really old cast iron pan in years but the modern Lodge > pans I have, in service for several years now, work just fine. But what > the heck do I know, I just cook. I sanded my Lodge skillets thinking it would make food less inclined to stick when using minimal quantities of oil. The smooth surface certainly makes steel spatulas quieter, but I'm not sure how much effect it had on sticktion. bob prohaska |
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Moka Java wrote:
> Chemiker wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:38:38 +0000 (UTC), (Patti >> Beadles) wrote: >> >>> The major thing missing from my kitchen right now is a cast iron >>> skillet. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the only thing I can find in stores right now is Lodge, >>> and it has a somewhat textured bottom. I'd really prefer something >>> with a smooth surface. >> >> You might consider hitting Loew's of Home Depot and get yourself a >> sanding "mouse", a vibrating sander with precut sanding sheets. >> They're not $$$, and with sales you should be able to snag one on the >> cheap. >> >> Plus in the mouse and sand the lumps down. It will go to bright >> iron again, then you season as you should anyway. In the future, >> you may need to refinish it, or you may find an old iron pan >> in a yard sale. Out comes the mouse and you're in business. >> >> >> HTH >> >> Alex >> >> > > What exactly is the problem with the texture on modern Lodge cast iron? > Is it aesthetic or do you actually find it cooks differently? I > haven't used a really old cast iron pan in years but the modern Lodge > pans I have, in service for several years now, work just fine. But what > the heck do I know, I just cook. I don't know about anyone else, but I have a ceramic cooktop and the rules say that all pots and pans have to have flat bottoms. I couldn't use Lodges for that reason. I got my cast iron skillet set in HEB (local South Texas supermarket) for $6.29 a couple of years back. I know they are Chinese, but they work as well as any other cast iron skillets. -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:11:30 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>In any case, Wagnerware is smoother. Available direct from Wagner. And, IMO, old Griswolds are smoother yet. Available from eBay. 8;) -- Larry |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:19:46 -0500, Moka Java > wrote:
>What exactly is the problem with the texture on modern Lodge cast iron? > Is it aesthetic or do you actually find it cooks differently?.... The topic of discussion was the _external_ texture of the bottom of the pan. It's significant to some of us who use glass cooktops and induction hobs. -- Larry |
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:11:30 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote: > >"Chemiker" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:38:28 -0500, pltrgyst >> > wrote: > >Look at the date on the original post. It is 2003 > >In any case, Wagnerware is smoother. Available direct from Wagner. Oh, That! Yeah, busted! I was doing some major overhauling of my laptop (got a program that won't log on properly, even tho it's ok on my other cptrs), so I've been uninstalling and reinstalling various apps, including Agent. When I reloaded my NG's I totally forgot that I was going to get a lot of ancient artifacts. I responded to this one before I noticed the date. My posts normally sort *down* from recent, but the reinstall had them sorted *up* from oldest. Sorry Alex > |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:38:06 -0500, Bobo > wrote:
>On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:11:30 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" > >wrote: > >> >>"Chemiker" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:38:28 -0500, pltrgyst >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:41:14 -0600, Chemiker > >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:38:38 +0000 (UTC), (Patti >>>>>Beadles) wrote: >>>>> >That's some great thread retention. What newserver are you using? Agent 5.0/32.1170 Alex |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:09:20 GMT, bob prohaska's usenet account
> wrote: >Moka Java > wrote: >> >I sanded my Lodge skillets thinking it would make food less inclined to >stick when using minimal quantities of oil. The smooth surface certainly >makes steel spatulas quieter, but I'm not sure how much effect it had on >sticktion. Seems to me the black finish (seasoning) is a little more durable with a smooth surface. YMMV Alex |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:10:39 -0500, pltrgyst
> wrote: >On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:19:46 -0500, Moka Java > wrote: > >>What exactly is the problem with the texture on modern Lodge cast iron? >> Is it aesthetic or do you actually find it cooks differently?.... > >The topic of discussion was the _external_ texture of the bottom of the pan. >It's significant to some of us who use glass cooktops and induction hobs. > >-- Larry Well, then I'm wrong for another reason. I was thinking the OP was talking about the *interior*. Jan's skillet is probably a Heuck Classis (I also bought one from HEB). Mine was sufficiently rounded in the base that it would rock on the grates of my gas cooktop. I have a bench/belt sander and spent about 20 minutes resurfacing the bottom and now it's OK. I posted earlier that people who consider buying these should check the bottoms out before buying (put it on the floor and see whether it rocks or not. The Mouse sander is OK for working the interiors when reconditioning old ironware. Alex |
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Chemiker wrote:
> Well, then I'm wrong for another reason. I was thinking the OP was > talking about the *interior*. Jan's skillet is probably a Heuck > Classis (I also bought one from HEB). The HEB skillets are a set that includes 6.5", 8" and 10". The box said they were pre-seasoned and they actually were! The bottoms are perfectly flat and smooth. The brand on the box is "Texas Style™ The manufactuter is not listed, however it is distributed by Parkway Manufacturing & Trading Company, San Antonio. It is made in China. Janet, never Jan in way-the-heck-south Texas -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:34:51 -0600, Chemiker
> wrote: >Agent 5.0/32.1170 I'm running Agent 3.3 right now and am debating whether to upgrade. I understand Agent 5.0 doesn't kill crossposts, which was the main reason I would consider the upgrade. True? Is the new version that much better than the old? |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:15:42 -0500, KLS > wrote:
>On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:34:51 -0600, Chemiker > wrote: >>Agent 5.0/32.1170 > >I'm running Agent 3.3 right now and am debating whether to upgrade. I >understand Agent 5.0 doesn't kill crossposts, which was the main >reason I would consider the upgrade. True? Is the new version that >much better than the old? I upgraded from 4.2, which was OK. THe original 5.0 has a couple of glitches in it, so the newer build is supposed to be better. I'm still getting used to it, but my experience so far is: Pro: You can nest folders. That's nice feature. There's a nice "fix/repair folders" feature. Is that new? I don't recall seeing it in 4.2. You can handle multiple NG servers and email accts. I think that's new. You can handle multiple personas, condifentially. I haven't tested this. It's Vista compliant (Yeah, right!) Con: If you create a new desk (e.g. Usenet) It still tries to duplicate your folders in the original desk, to what purpose I can't tell. It is oblivious to RAR files. If you're downloading binaries in parts (music,video) it will join the parts only while they are in the NG window. If you save the parts, say to Extract RAR files, you can't go to the desktop and join the exracted parts into a whole again. I'm still trying to figure what's up with that. It's Vista compliant (Yeah, right!) If there's a way to lock in a sig for repeated use, I haven't found it. I't like to use rotating sugs, but it seems not to be able to do that eitiher. It's a PITA selecting the sig over and over message by message. I've used both earthlink webmail and Thunderbird for email, and years ago, Eudora. The first two are, in some ways, more feature rich. I'm sure there's a learning curve problem here, and I'm on the wrong side of it. HTH Alex, with Agent since version 0.99 |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:34:25 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote: >Chemiker wrote: > >> Well, then I'm wrong for another reason. I was thinking the OP was >> talking about the *interior*. Jan's skillet is probably a Heuck >> Classis (I also bought one from HEB). > >The HEB skillets are a set that includes 6.5", 8" and 10". The box said >they were pre-seasoned and they actually were! > >The bottoms are perfectly flat and smooth. The brand on the box is >"Texas Style™ The manufactuter is not listed, however it is distributed >by Parkway Manufacturing & Trading Company, San Antonio. It is made in >China. >Janet, never Jan in way-the-heck-south Texas I am suitably chastised. Parkway is a partner of HEBCo. If you do a Dogpile search you will find this site: http://www.amazon.com/Heuck-Pre-Seas...pr_product_top There is a possibility that, since HEB was handling Heuck, HEB decided to import their own brand through Parkway. If your set looks like the one illustrated in the amazon link, that relationship seems more likely. BTW: Where is hell-and-gone South Texas. Pharr-SanJuan- Alamo? Alex - singing "Down in the Valley" |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:44:04 -0600, Chemiker
> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:15:42 -0500, KLS > wrote: > >>On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:34:51 -0600, Chemiker > wrote: >>>Agent 5.0/32.1170 >> >>I'm running Agent 3.3 right now and am debating whether to upgrade. I >>understand Agent 5.0 doesn't kill crossposts, which was the main >>reason I would consider the upgrade. True? Is the new version that >>much better than the old? > >I upgraded from 4.2, which was OK. THe original 5.0 has a couple of >glitches in it, so the newer build is supposed to be better. > >I'm still getting used to it, but my experience so far is: > >Pro: You can nest folders. That's nice feature. > > There's a nice "fix/repair folders" feature. Is that > new? I don't recall seeing it in 4.2. > > You can handle multiple NG servers and email accts. > I think that's new. > > You can handle multiple personas, condifentially. > I haven't tested this. > > It's Vista compliant (Yeah, right!) > >Con: If you create a new desk (e.g. Usenet) It still tries to > duplicate your folders in the original desk, to what purpose > I can't tell. > > It is oblivious to RAR files. > > If you're downloading binaries in parts (music,video) it will > join the parts only while they are in the NG window. If you > save the parts, say to Extract RAR files, you can't go to the > desktop and join the exracted parts into a whole again. I'm > still trying to figure what's up with that. > > It's Vista compliant (Yeah, right!) > > If there's a way to lock in a sig for repeated use, I haven't > found it. I't like to use rotating sugs, but it seems not to > be able to do that eitiher. It's a PITA selecting the sig > over and over message by message. > >I've used both earthlink webmail and Thunderbird for email, and >years ago, Eudora. The first two are, in some ways, more feature >rich. I'm sure there's a learning curve problem here, and I'm >on the wrong side of it. > >HTH > >Alex, with Agent since version 0.99 Thanks, Alex. Your report is not convincing me to upgrade as I'm still with WinXP and have no intention of moving to Vista until/unless my employer forces me to (which has not yet happened). I appreciate the report and will save my $20 and stick with 3.3 for a while longer. |
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pltrgyst > wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:11:30 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > > >In any case, Wagnerware is smoother. Available direct from Wagner. > > And, IMO, old Griswolds are smoother yet. Available from eBay. 8;) > > -- Larry A good Griswold is worth it's weight in gold. I have 3. I grew up in PA where that was all anyone had. I couldn't believe how horrible new cast iron was. |
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Chemiker > wrote: > >That's some great thread retention. What newserver are you using? > > Agent 5.0/32.1170 It's not the newsreader that marks retention, it's the news server. I use att.worldnet's server, and some forums hang 8-9 months, some last 4 months. But for a server to hang on to 5-6 years, well I went back at first to make sure it wasn't someone on Google Groups (it wasn't). jt |
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Chemiker wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:34:25 -0600, Janet Wilder > > wrote: > >> Chemiker wrote: >> >>> Well, then I'm wrong for another reason. I was thinking the OP was >>> talking about the *interior*. Jan's skillet is probably a Heuck >>> Classis (I also bought one from HEB). >> The HEB skillets are a set that includes 6.5", 8" and 10". The box said >> they were pre-seasoned and they actually were! >> >> The bottoms are perfectly flat and smooth. The brand on the box is >> "Texas Style™ The manufactuter is not listed, however it is distributed >> by Parkway Manufacturing & Trading Company, San Antonio. It is made in >> China. >> Janet, never Jan in way-the-heck-south Texas > > I am suitably chastised. > > Parkway is a partner of HEBCo. If you do a Dogpile search you > will find this site: > > http://www.amazon.com/Heuck-Pre-Seas...pr_product_top > > There is a possibility that, since HEB was handling Heuck, HEB decided > to import their own brand through Parkway. If your set looks like the > one illustrated in the amazon link, that relationship seems more > likely. It's a little hard to tell if the set is identical from the picture. Most cast iron skillets look alike from th top view. It's on the bottom that they differ. > > BTW: Where is hell-and-gone South Texas. Pharr-SanJuan- Alamo? "way-the-heck-south Texas" is Harlingen. Mail comes from the San Benito PO rural delivery. Our house is less than 5 miles from the Rio Grande. We are east of Pharr, San Juan and Alamo, but we know the towns well. > Alex - singing "Down in the Valley" Yes. "The Magic Valley" a/k/a The lower Rio Grande Valley. It's in the 80's today. -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:43:08 -0800, Tamzen Cannoy >
wrote: >A good Griswold is worth it's weight in gold. Amen to that: mine cooks like a dream. |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:55:01 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote: >Chemiker wrote: >> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:34:25 -0600, Janet Wilder >> > wrote: >It's a little hard to tell if the set is identical from the picture. >Most cast iron skillets look alike from th top view. It's on the bottom >that they differ. They differ in another way too, Janet. 1. All my Lodge stuff has a tear-drop perforation in the handle, beveled down *from the top*. 2. My one piece of WagnerWare, a 10" skillet, is also perfed teardrop shape, but beveled from the *bottom* of the handle. 3. My Heuck piece is teardrop shaped, beveled from the top, BUT there are molded in some thumb grooves on the upper part of the handle, close to the bowl. If you look closely at those Amazon pieces shown at that link, you can just make out the thumb gooves. I'd say if your pieces are perforated with top beveling and have thumb grooves, there's a good chance Heuck made them. >"way-the-heck-south Texas" is Harlingen. Mail comes from the San Benito >PO rural delivery. Our house is less than 5 miles from the Rio Grande. >We are east of Pharr, San Juan and Alamo, but we know the towns well. > Well, that's south-Texas all right. Makes me feel like a northerner. Alex It's in the 60's now, and temp is falling. |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:44:04 -0600, Chemiker > wrote:
>Pro: You can nest folders. That's nice feature. > > There's a nice "fix/repair folders" feature. Is that > new? I don't recall seeing it in 4.2. 4.2 has "Repair selected folders". > You can handle multiple NG servers and email accts. > I think that's new. Nope. 4.2 does this. > You can handle multiple personas, condifentially. > I haven't tested this. 4.2 does this. > It's Vista compliant (Yeah, right!) 4.2 runs just fine under Vista Home Premium on my wife's machine here at home. >Con: > > If there's a way to lock in a sig for repeated use, I haven't > found it. I't like to use rotating sugs, but it seems not to > be able to do that eitiher. It's a PITA selecting the sig > over and over message by message. You can create a sig for each persona, as well as the default persona. You can have a different default persona for each folder. >Alex, with Agent since version 0.99 Me too. -- Larry |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:43:08 -0800, Tamzen Cannoy > wrote:
>In article >, > pltrgyst > wrote: >> >> And, IMO, old Griswolds are smoother yet. Available from eBay. 8;) >> >> -- Larry > >A good Griswold is worth it's weight in gold. I have 3. I grew up in PA >where that was all anyone had.... Agreed. I've got four of the small 4" square pans for individual servings, and then five other round pans, from 6" up to 11". The 11" might be the most used pan I own. I keep trying to convince myself that I need a Griswold chicken fryer, but so far have resisted the urge... 8;) If you buy from eBay, and have a glass cooktop or induction hob, be careful that you don't accidentally buy a Griswold with the smoke ring. They're sometimes not mentioned, and very hard to see in small eBay photos. I learned this lesson the hard/expensive way. Fortunately for my brother, he has a gas stove, and has been enjoying his new (free) Griswold for over a year now. 8;) -- Larry |
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Chemiker wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:55:01 -0600, Janet Wilder > > wrote: > >> Chemiker wrote: >>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:34:25 -0600, Janet Wilder >>> > wrote: > >> It's a little hard to tell if the set is identical from the picture. >> Most cast iron skillets look alike from th top view. It's on the bottom >> that they differ. > > They differ in another way too, Janet. > > 1. All my Lodge stuff has a tear-drop perforation in the handle, > beveled down *from the top*. > > 2. My one piece of WagnerWare, a 10" skillet, is also perfed > teardrop shape, but beveled from the *bottom* of the handle. > > 3. My Heuck piece is teardrop shaped, beveled from the top, > BUT there are molded in some thumb grooves on the upper > part of the handle, close to the bowl. If you look closely at > those Amazon pieces shown at that link, you can just make > out the thumb gooves. > > I'd say if your pieces are perforated with top beveling and > have thumb grooves, there's a good chance Heuck made them. No thumb grooves. Smooth handle. I guess mine are just mysterious Chinese skillets :-) > >> "way-the-heck-south Texas" is Harlingen. Mail comes from the San Benito >> PO rural delivery. Our house is less than 5 miles from the Rio Grande. >> We are east of Pharr, San Juan and Alamo, but we know the towns well. >> > Well, that's south-Texas all right. Makes me feel like a northerner. > > Alex > > It's in the 60's now, and temp is falling. -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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