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Alessio Sangalli 22-07-2008 01:17 AM

food processor
 
Hi there I just moved to the US from Italy.

I am about to build up the equipment for my kitchen... now I need a good
food processor/mixer. At the moment I was interested in something like
this that I used in Europe:

https://www.kenwoodworld.com/it/prod...at=1498&id=770
or
https://www.kenwoodworld.com/ee/prod...ail.php?id=129

I've been told that Kenwood is similar to "Kitchenaid" but I am not
sure, nor I know if kitchenaid is a good brand or not. I am not looking
for something to process a lot of "dough" work as of now. What is your
advice?


Thank you
Alessio



Hugh 22-07-2008 12:33 PM

food processor
 

"Alessio Sangalli" > wrote in message
...
> Hi there I just moved to the US from Italy.
>
> I am about to build up the equipment for my kitchen... now I need a good
> food processor/mixer. At the moment I was interested in something like
> this that I used in Europe:
>
> https://www.kenwoodworld.com/it/prod...at=1498&id=770
> or
> https://www.kenwoodworld.com/ee/prod...ail.php?id=129
>
> I've been told that Kenwood is similar to "Kitchenaid" but I am not
> sure, nor I know if kitchenaid is a good brand or not. I am not looking
> for something to process a lot of "dough" work as of now. What is your
> advice?
>
>
> Thank you
> Alessio
>
>

I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk. I have two kitchenaid mixers,
one with the tilting head and the other with the standard up-down head. The
smaller tilting head mixer will fall off the countertop while mixing a 5-cup
dough recipe if I don't stand there and hold it. I have to constantly scrape
down the sides of the bowl. The larger model doesn't fall off the counter,
but you do have to constantly nurse it along.

If you don't make bread, buy an 11 cup Cuisinart. I've had mine for twenty
years. I bought a small 3 cup Cuisinart when the price hit $29.95 to go
along for finer work, though the large model DLC8 is fine for everything. It
just takes up more room in the dishwasher.

Hugh



Dee Dee 22-07-2008 03:54 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 7:33*am, "Hugh" > wrote:
> "Alessio Sangalli" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Hi there I just moved to the US from Italy.

>
> > I am about to build up the equipment for my kitchen... now I need a good
> > food processor/mixer. At the moment I was interested in something like
> > this that I used in Europe:

>
> >https://www.kenwoodworld.com/it/prod...at=1498&id=770
> > or
> >https://www.kenwoodworld.com/ee/prod...ail.php?id=129

>
> > I've been told that Kenwood is similar to "Kitchenaid" but I am not
> > sure, nor I know if kitchenaid is a good brand or not. I am not looking
> > for something to process a lot of "dough" work as of now. What is your
> > advice?

>
> > Thank you
> > Alessio

>
> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk.





> If you don't make bread, buy an 11 cup Cuisinart. I've had mine for twenty
> years. I bought a small 3 cup Cuisinart when the price hit $29.95 to go
> along for finer work, though the large model DLC8 is fine for everything. It
> just takes up more room in the dishwasher.
>
> Hugh- Hide quoted text -
>




My choice is somewhat different:
I also think KitchenAid mixers are hunks of junk. Agree with Hugh.

However, I think Cuisinart food processors are hunks of junk.
I own a KitchenAid food processor.
I've owned, I believe, 2 or 3 - I think probably 3 - Cuisinart food
processors, plus 1 small individual one, and an small individual nut
processor. I was brand oriented on the Cuisineart food processor and
didn't want to give up on it. I bought several cheap ones in between
replacing it with another Cusinart. Everyone inadequate.

I guess I'd had it with Cuisinart, so I thought I'd try the KitchenAid
food processor -- Voila! That was it.
Dee Dee



Will[_1_] 22-07-2008 04:07 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 6:33 am, "Hugh" > wrote:
> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk.


> The > smaller tilting head mixer will fall off the countertop while
> mixing a 5-cup dough recipe if I don't stand there and hold it. I
> have to constantly scrape down the sides of the bowl.


Well now... how does having a slippery counter surface make the
machine a "hunk of junk"? Get a non slip mat, put the machine on it. I
use one of those things that grips/opens jar tops. Works great.

Bowl scraping is a mostly function of how you build dough; how YOU
choose to combine the flour and water. The machine just mixes it...
Reserve a small quantity of water and adjust things when/if you see
the flour building to the sides.

I think KA mixers are rather useful. Like Hugh, I have two, but prefer
the small one. Mine mills grain, mixes dough, rolls and cuts pasta,
grinds meat, makes olive and bean pastes. Once in a while I'll even
shred cabbage with it. My advice is to get the K45, a small machine,
and spend your savings on the attachments. The attachment systems work
well. You will not find a better pasta roller/cutter. An extra bowl or
two is also a good idea. With a small machine you must batch large
tasks... but that's not a deal breaker for an experienced cook.







Dee Dee 22-07-2008 06:15 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 11:07*am, Will > wrote:
> On Jul 22, 6:33 am, "Hugh" > wrote:
>
> > I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk.
> > The > smaller tilting head mixer will fall off the countertop while
> > mixing a 5-cup dough recipe if I don't stand there and hold it. I
> > have to constantly scrape down the sides of the bowl.

>
> Well now... how does having a slippery counter surface make the
> machine a "hunk of junk"? Get a non slip mat, put the machine on it. I
> use one of those things that grips/opens jar tops. Works great.
>
> Bowl scraping is a mostly function of how you build dough; how YOU
> choose to combine the flour and water. The machine just mixes it...
> Reserve a small quantity of water and adjust things when/if you see
> the flour building to the sides.
>
> I think KA mixers are rather useful. Like Hugh, I have two, but prefer
> the small one. Mine mills grain, mixes dough, rolls and cuts pasta,
> grinds meat, makes olive and bean pastes. Once in a while I'll even
> shred cabbage with it. My advice is to get the K45, a small machine,
> and spend your savings on the attachments. The attachment systems work
> well. You will not find a better pasta roller/cutter. An extra bowl or
> two is also a good idea. With a small machine you must batch large
> tasks... but that's not a deal breaker for an experienced cook.




Will, I have not thrown my KA mixer away. I have pasta rollers; I
forgot to praise them.
If they're good enough for Mario, then they're good enough for me.
Dee Dee

Will[_1_] 22-07-2008 06:47 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 12:15 pm, Dee Dee > wrote:

>I have not thrown my KA mixer away. I have pasta rollers; I
> forgot to praise them.


I've been really happy with those pasta rollers.

I think being satisfied with a KA takes considered compromise. The
small KA mixes 1800 gram loads of bread dough for me 3 times a week.
Every week. If I want more dough... I go to a second batch. That works
well for us. We like bread fresh, and we like variety, so we make it
often. If I used the bigger machine, I'd make more to realize the
sweet spot in the bowl size, then I'd have to freeze it, then I'd feel
foolish for turning a pleasant task into an industrial chore. The
small unit doesn't overwhelm the counter, and powers all the
attachments easily.



Dee Dee 22-07-2008 08:18 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 1:47*pm, Will > wrote:
> On Jul 22, 12:15 pm, Dee Dee > wrote:
>
> >I have not thrown my KA mixer away. I have pasta rollers; I
> > forgot to praise them.

>
> I've been really happy with those pasta rollers.
>
> I think being satisfied with a KA takes considered compromise. The
> small KA mixes 1800 gram loads of bread dough for me 3 times a week.
> Every week. If I want more dough... I go to a second batch. That works
> well for us. We like bread fresh, and we like variety, so we make it
> often. If I used the bigger machine, I'd make more to realize the
> sweet spot in the bowl size, then I'd have to freeze it, then I'd feel
> foolish for turning a pleasant task into an industrial chore. The
> small unit doesn't overwhelm the counter, and powers all the
> attachments easily.



I'm doing an "industrial chore" right now. I made enough dough for
six 10-12" pizzas. This time instead of putting the balls to freeze,
I'm going to roll at least 3 of them out, freeze in the rolled-out
stage, and put into a 2-gallon zip-lock type bag. Clean-up is the
same for 3 or 6.

My last 'not so quite' "insdustrial chore this week was to freeze 3
ciabatta.

Here is the machine I use, but it certainly is not for everyone. It's
been around for 60 years, but I feel like it's between a clunker and a
UFO. http://www.everythingkitchens.com/electroluxvideo.html

The only problem with this video is it feels like it's a 60 year old
demonstration, and one can't click back or forward.

Dee Dee









Alessio Sangalli 22-07-2008 09:08 PM

food processor
 
Dee Dee wrote:

> I'm doing an "industrial chore" right now. I made enough dough for
> six 10-12" pizzas. This time instead of putting the balls to freeze,


I'll continue the pizza thing in another thread.

bye
as

Billy[_3_] 22-07-2008 09:42 PM

food processor
 
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:

>I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk


Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.



S Viemeister[_2_] 22-07-2008 10:36 PM

food processor
 
Billy wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
>
>> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>
> Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.
>
>

As is mine. But I understand that some of the newer ones are not quite
the same quality.

Dee Dee 23-07-2008 02:57 AM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 5:36*pm, S Viemeister > wrote:
> Billy wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:

>
> >> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>
> > Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen. *

>
> As is mine. *But I understand that some of the newer ones are not quite
> the same quality.



I've owned several! My first one was bought around 1975, even the
first one was a 'hunk of junk.' I just had nowhere to go.

Saying one doesn't like KA is akin to not liking (you fill in the
blank). I've been accused mostly of not knowing how to cook or use my
appliances. :-)))

Dee Dee


Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 23-07-2008 03:32 AM

food processor
 
On Tue 22 Jul 2008 01:42:06p, Billy told us...

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
>
>>I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>
> Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.


As is mine with is 35 years old. The key here is production date. The new
ones seem to be hunks of junk. If mine gave out, I'd definitely not buy one
again.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
KIDS!! Please DON'T try this at home.!
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S Viemeister[_2_] 23-07-2008 03:35 AM

food processor
 
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 22 Jul 2008 01:42:06p, Billy told us...
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
>>
>>> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>> Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.

>
> As is mine with is 35 years old. The key here is production date. The new
> ones seem to be hunks of junk. If mine gave out, I'd definitely not buy one
> again.
>


In my other kitchen, I have a fairly recent Kenwood - it's an excellent
machine.

Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 23-07-2008 03:40 AM

food processor
 
On Tue 22 Jul 2008 06:57:18p, Dee Dee told us...

> On Jul 22, 5:36*pm, S Viemeister > wrote:
>> Billy wrote:
>> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:

>>
>> >> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>>
>> > Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen. *

>>
>> As is mine. *But I understand that some of the newer ones are not quite
>> the same quality.

>
>
> I've owned several! My first one was bought around 1975, even the
> first one was a 'hunk of junk.' I just had nowhere to go.
>
> Saying one doesn't like KA is akin to not liking (you fill in the
> blank). I've been accused mostly of not knowing how to cook or use my
> appliances. :-)))
>
> Dee Dee


Dee, seriously, I've begun to think that you are somehow very hard on
appliances and cooking equipment in general. Remember your Le Creuset
fiasco? My collection of Le Creuset dates back to the early 1970s and
still has no discoloration, much less any type of damage. My KA mixer,
also from the early 1970s, still looks and works like new. My Cuisinart FP
from the early 1980s also looks and works like new.

I say this with sincerity and as a friend... I think you're a terrific
cook and par excellence at food/cooking research. I just think that you
don't have good relationships with equipment. It sort of like those
certain individuals that can kill a PC by merely looking at it. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
KIDS!! Please DON'T try this at home.!
-------------------------------------------





Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 23-07-2008 04:04 AM

food processor
 
On Tue 22 Jul 2008 07:35:53p, S Viemeister told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 22 Jul 2008 01:42:06p, Billy told us...
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk Mine is 25 years old and
>>>> remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.

>>
>> As is mine with is 35 years old. The key here is production date. The
>> new ones seem to be hunks of junk. If mine gave out, I'd definitely
>> not buy one again.
>>

>
> In my other kitchen, I have a fairly recent Kenwood - it's an excellent
> machine.
>


I think Kenwood is one of the top-rated machines. I would probably buy a
Viking, but it's more for styling than quality. I think they're both good.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
If opportunity knocks, go to bed with
your pants on.
-------------------------------------------




jt august[_2_] 23-07-2008 04:43 AM

food processor
 
In article >,
S Viemeister > wrote:

> Billy wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
> >
> >> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

> >
> > Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.
> >
> >

> As is mine. But I understand that some of the newer ones are not quite
> the same quality.


I, too, have older models; an Ultra from the early 90's, and an
Epicurean that I bought in clearance in 2004, but I am told dates to the
mid 90's when KA still metal gears. I think that is a key factor. The
plastic/composite gearing doesn't hod up as well.

jt

Dee Dee 23-07-2008 05:29 AM

food processor
 
On Jul 22, 10:40*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Tue 22 Jul 2008 06:57:18p, Dee Dee told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 22, 5:36*pm, S Viemeister > wrote:
> >> Billy wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:

>
> >> >> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>
> >> > Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen. *

>
> >> As is mine. *But I understand that some of the newer ones are not quite
> >> the same quality.

>
> > *I've owned several! *My first one was bought around 1975, even the
> > first one was a 'hunk of junk.' *I just had nowhere to go.

>
> > Saying one doesn't like KA is akin to not liking (you fill in the
> > blank). *I've been accused mostly of not knowing how to cook or use my
> > appliances. *:-)))

>
> > Dee Dee

>
> Dee, seriously, I've begun to think that you are somehow very hard on
> appliances and cooking equipment in general. *Remember your Le Creuset
> fiasco? *My collection of Le Creuset dates back to the early 1970s and
> still has no discoloration, much less any type of damage. *My KA mixer,
> also from the early 1970s, still looks and works like new. *My Cuisinart FP
> from the early 1980s also looks and works like new.
>
> I say this with sincerity and as a friend... *I think you're a terrific
> cook and par excellence at food/cooking research. *I just think that you
> don't have good relationships with equipment. *It sort of like those
> certain individuals that can kill a PC by merely looking at it. :-)
>
> --
> * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
> -------------------------------------------
> * * *Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
> -------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------
> * KIDS!! Please DON'T try this at home.! *
> -------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -




You are correct; my appliances are hard on me.

My last espresso machine died on me in 8 months (made in Italy,too).
I replaced it then with a new machine that is now priced at $700 (also
made in Italy) and DH and I hardly ever are able to pull an adequate
espresso yet (seconds-wise), but we're still working on it -- unless
it fails ;-))

I bought a new burr coffee grinder last September to the tune of over
$300; (this month, they cost $370+/- ). Day before yesterday, a piece
of metal ruined the burrs. I whined on alt.coffee group and one guy
advised to buy some new burrs. They are on order to replace.

I could dredge up a few more things over the last few months, but
coffee equipment is on my mind today.

Probably the espresso machine just stopped working because I turned it
on too many times; and I believe the equipment devil jumped the piece
of metal into the grinder.


Dee Dee


Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 23-07-2008 05:47 AM

food processor
 
On Tue 22 Jul 2008 09:29:00p, Dee Dee told us...

> On Jul 22, 10:40*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>> On Tue 22 Jul 2008 06:57:18p, Dee Dee told us...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 22, 5:36*pm, S Viemeister > wrote:
>> >> Billy wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" >

wrote:
>>
>> >> >> I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>>
>> >> > Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.
>> >> > *

>>
>> >> As is mine. *But I understand that some of the newer ones are not qu
>> >> ite the same quality.

>>
>> > *I've owned several! *My first one was bought around 1975, even the
>> > first one was a 'hunk of junk.' *I just had nowhere to go.

>>
>> > Saying one doesn't like KA is akin to not liking (you fill in the
>> > blank). *I've been accused mostly of not knowing how to cook or use m

y
>> > appliances. *:-)))

>>
>> > Dee Dee

>>
>> Dee, seriously, I've begun to think that you are somehow very hard on
>> appliances and cooking equipment in general. *Remember your Le Creuset
>> fiasco? *My collection of Le Creuset dates back to the early 1970s and
>> still has no discoloration, much less any type of damage. *My KA mixer,
>> also from the early 1970s, still looks and works like new. *My Cuisinar

t
>> FP from the early 1980s also looks and works like new.
>>
>> I say this with sincerity and as a friend... *I think you're a terrific
>> cook and par excellence at food/cooking research. *I just think that yo

u
>> don't have good relationships with equipment. *It sort of like those
>> certain individuals that can kill a PC by merely looking at it. :-)
>>
>> --
>> * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
>> -------------------------------------------
>> * * *Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
>> -------------------------------------------
>> -------------------------------------------
>> * KIDS!! Please DON'T try this at home.! *
>> -------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>
>
> You are correct; my appliances are hard on me.
>
> My last espresso machine died on me in 8 months (made in Italy,too).
> I replaced it then with a new machine that is now priced at $700 (also
> made in Italy) and DH and I hardly ever are able to pull an adequate
> espresso yet (seconds-wise), but we're still working on it -- unless
> it fails ;-))
>
> I bought a new burr coffee grinder last September to the tune of over
> $300; (this month, they cost $370+/- ). Day before yesterday, a piece
> of metal ruined the burrs. I whined on alt.coffee group and one guy
> advised to buy some new burrs. They are on order to replace.
>
> I could dredge up a few more things over the last few months, but
> coffee equipment is on my mind today.
>
> Probably the espresso machine just stopped working because I turned it
> on too many times; and I believe the equipment devil jumped the piece
> of metal into the grinder.
>
>
> Dee Dee


It's just sort of weird, Dee. I know that you spare no expense when you
choose and buy equipment, and I also know that you're not the destructive
type. :-) Maybe it's just bad karma. Sort of like some people who are
always tripping and falling. some of the things you've bought and had bad
luck with should last for decades if not a lifetime. I just don't get it.
Positively weird, and I really feel badly for the luck you have. Maybe one
of these days it will all turn around. I do hope so.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Earth first! We'll abuse the other
planets later.
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The Cook 23-07-2008 02:15 PM

food processor
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:32:38 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 22 Jul 2008 01:42:06p, Billy told us...
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
>>
>>>I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

>>
>> Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.

>
>As is mine with is 35 years old. The key here is production date. The new
>ones seem to be hunks of junk. If mine gave out, I'd definitely not buy one
>again.


We bought a KA in the late 1960's. It was a smaller one. We then
bought the K5SS I am thinking in the mid 1980's and gave the K4 to my
MIL whose 1940's (I am guessing) KA quit. The K4 was still working
when she died in 2003. I have it in the basement. DH wanted one of
the newer (bigger) ones in the mid 1990's after Whirlpool took over.
Before the warranty ran out it dripped grease down the shaft into the
food and would not keep a constant speed. After we got through with
the customer service rep who thought gear grease in food was OK, they
sent us a new one, we put the old one in the box and it went back. We
had given the K5 to my son. When he brought his stuff back home while
changing locations, I traded mixers. The K5 is still working. I also
bought one on Ebay. It looks like it needs a grease job, but one of
the posters in alt.bread.recipes has the instructions, with pictures.

I am still using my Cuisineart food processor from the 1980's. I
bought another one on Ebay as insurance. I have extras for most
everything and a larger selection of slicing blades.

Also in the 1970 we bought a KA coffee grinder. It quit working in
about 20 years and I have purchased a couple more on Ebay. We need to
put a couple together to get another working one. My Sunbeam blender
with the glass jar and base that weighs a ton still works fine too.

I have reached the point that instead of getting the new style, I
start looking for the older versions of what I have. I know that I am
not as careful and meticulous as Wayne is, but my appliances work well
for long periods. In fact we bought a GE Americana 2 oven stove when
we moved into our house in 1974. With a few minor fixes it was still
working when we left in 2004. The buyer did not seem to be in a hurry
to replace it.



Dee Dee 23-07-2008 02:30 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 23, 9:15*am, The Cook > wrote:

> *In fact we bought a GE Americana 2 oven stove when
> we moved into our house in 1974. *With a few minor fixes it was still
> working when we left in 2004. *The buyer did not seem to be in a hurry
> to replace i



Geez, a year or so ago I replaced a solid Jennair bought in '88,
basically not used 'until I got my hands on it in '93 ;-)). It
should've been replaced much sooner than I did. Perhaps I treat my
kitchen like a test kitchen; one can only know that by watching me and
judging whether or not I have mistreated my appliances; but the
evidence speaks to it that I have done them wrong.

To say that I've had bad luck with KitchenAid or any other name brand
never fails to produce abundant posts of yay-sayers and defenders of
their choice of products. I understand that.

I just had a Nikon camera that 'stopped' working within the last
couple of weeks.
I should post this Nikon information at a camera group ;-)) Did I
drop it? Did I throw it onto the seat? Have I contacted the
company? Have I reset it?

At least I had a good year out of it -- no, I will not try to have it
fixed. Life is short and Costco is near (until I run out of dollars).
Hey, I'm looking at a new Sony ......
And so it goes.

Dee Dee

Seth Goodman 23-07-2008 03:11 PM

food processor
 
In article 0> on Wed,
23 Jul 2008 02:32:38 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 22 Jul 2008 01:42:06p, Billy told us...
>
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:33:56 -0700, "Hugh" > wrote:
> >
> >>I think Kitchenaid mixers are hunks of junk

> >
> > Mine is 25 years old and remains a solid workhorse in the kitchen.

>
> As is mine with is 35 years old. The key here is production date. The new
> ones seem to be hunks of junk. If mine gave out, I'd definitely not buy one
> again.


The keys are both production date and manufacturer. Hobart started the
Kitchenaid line (in the the 30s, IIRC). They made KitchenAid mixers to
commercial standards until approximately 1987 (again, IIRC) when they
sold the name and the line to Whirlpool. Whirlpool held up the
KitchenAid quality for awhile (my 1989 KitchenAid mixer has held up
fine), but quality seems to have gone downhill in the past few years.

You can still buy a Hobart 5 quart mixer that appears virtually
identical to the 5 quart lift bowl KitchenAid Mixer. It's built to
commercial standards - and costs $1500.

--

Seth Goodman

Will[_1_] 23-07-2008 03:16 PM

food processor
 
On Jul 23, 8:30 am, Dee Dee > wrote:

> And so it goes.


Speaking of which... hows that Bamixer doing?

Dee Dee 23-07-2008 03:38 PM

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On Jul 23, 10:16*am, Will > wrote:
> On Jul 23, 8:30 am, Dee Dee > wrote:
>
> > And so it goes.

>
> Speaking of which... hows that Bamixer doing?



Good memory!
I should add it to my list - ;-))

No, never could get it adjusted. However, it's still sitting here
taking up space.
As I recall, it was about a $100 - yikes! And it put scar marks on a
'very' good pan.
Yeah, I know, I should've tried it on a throw-away pan. There should
be a lot of them here, but they've gone to GoodWill/Salvation Army.

Thanks for reminding me, darlin' :-))

Dee Dee


Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 23-07-2008 07:38 PM

food processor
 
On Wed 23 Jul 2008 07:38:12a, Dee Dee told us...

> On Jul 23, 10:16*am, Will > wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 8:30 am, Dee Dee > wrote:
>>
>> > And so it goes.

>>
>> Speaking of which... hows that Bamixer doing?

>
>
> Good memory!
> I should add it to my list - ;-))
>
> No, never could get it adjusted. However, it's still sitting here
> taking up space.
> As I recall, it was about a $100 - yikes! And it put scar marks on a
> 'very' good pan.
> Yeah, I know, I should've tried it on a throw-away pan. There should
> be a lot of them here, but they've gone to GoodWill/Salvation Army.
>
> Thanks for reminding me, darlin' :-))
>
> Dee Dee
>
>


Goodness, Dee Dee, what are we going to do with you? :-))

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wednesday, 07(VII)/23(XXIII)/08(MMVIII)
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No favor can win gratitude from a cat.
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Dee Dee 23-07-2008 07:48 PM

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On Jul 23, 2:38*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Wed 23 Jul 2008 07:38:12a, Dee Dee told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 10:16*am, Will > wrote:
> >> On Jul 23, 8:30 am, Dee Dee > wrote:

>
> >> > And so it goes.

>
> >> Speaking of which... hows that Bamixer doing?

>
> > Good memory!
> > I should add it to my list - ;-))

>
> > No, never could get it adjusted. *However, it's still sitting here
> > taking up space.
> > As I recall, it was about a $100 - yikes! * And it put scar marks on a
> > 'very' good pan.
> > Yeah, I know, I should've tried it on a throw-away pan. *There should
> > be a lot of them here, but they've gone to GoodWill/Salvation Army.

>
> > Thanks for reminding me, darlin' :-))

>
> > Dee Dee

>
> Goodness, Dee Dee, what are we going to do with you? :-))
>
> --
> * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * *



Wayne, I'm downright incorrigible; beyond 'repair.' ;-))
My best,
Dee Dee



Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 23-07-2008 07:50 PM

food processor
 
On Wed 23 Jul 2008 11:48:55a, Dee Dee told us...

> On Jul 23, 2:38*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>> On Wed 23 Jul 2008 07:38:12a, Dee Dee told us...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 23, 10:16*am, Will > wrote:
>> >> On Jul 23, 8:30 am, Dee Dee > wrote:

>>
>> >> > And so it goes.

>>
>> >> Speaking of which... hows that Bamixer doing?

>>
>> > Good memory!
>> > I should add it to my list - ;-))

>>
>> > No, never could get it adjusted. *However, it's still sitting here
>> > taking up space.
>> > As I recall, it was about a $100 - yikes! * And it put scar marks on
>> > a 'very' good pan.
>> > Yeah, I know, I should've tried it on a throw-away pan. *There should
>> > be a lot of them here, but they've gone to GoodWill/Salvation Army.

>>
>> > Thanks for reminding me, darlin' :-))

>>
>> > Dee Dee

>>
>> Goodness, Dee Dee, what are we going to do with you? :-))
>>
>> --
>> * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * *

>
>
> Wayne, I'm downright incorrigible; beyond 'repair.' ;-))
> My best,
> Dee Dee


<G>



--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wednesday, 07(VII)/23(XXIII)/08(MMVIII)
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First listen to sermon, THEN eat
missionary.
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Alessio Sangalli 23-07-2008 07:51 PM

food processor
 
S Viemeister wrote:

> In my other kitchen, I have a fairly recent Kenwood - it's an excellent
> machine.


In which country is your other kitchen and where did you buy the kenwood?

bye!
as

S Viemeister[_2_] 23-07-2008 09:29 PM

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Alessio Sangalli wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>
>> In my other kitchen, I have a fairly recent Kenwood - it's an excellent
>> machine.

>
> In which country is your other kitchen and where did you buy the kenwood?
>
>

Scotland.
I bought it through a UK mail-order catalogue, when they were having a sale.

Billy[_3_] 23-07-2008 11:36 PM

food processor
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
> wrote:

>> *In fact we bought a GE Americana 2 oven stove when
>> we moved into our house in 1974. *With a few minor fixes it was still
>> working when we left in 2004. *The buyer did not seem to be in a hurry
>> to replace i

>
>
>Geez, a year or so ago I replaced a solid Jennair bought in '88,
>basically not used 'until I got my hands on it in '93 ;-)).


Not really sure how we morphed from food processor to GE Americana 2
oven....

Wayne Boatwright[_3_] 24-07-2008 12:56 AM

food processor
 
On Wed 23 Jul 2008 03:36:14p, Billy told us...

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
> > wrote:
>
>>> *In fact we bought a GE Americana 2 oven stove when
>>> we moved into our house in 1974. *With a few minor fixes it was still
>>> working when we left in 2004. *The buyer did not seem to be in a hurry
>>> to replace i

>>
>>
>>Geez, a year or so ago I replaced a solid Jennair bought in '88,
>>basically not used 'until I got my hands on it in '93 ;-)).

>
> Not really sure how we morphed from food processor to GE Americana 2
> oven....
>


Any appliance that is old but still working well.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wednesday, 07(VII)/23(XXIII)/08(MMVIII)
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Thrown in jail for having too much fun.
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