I am getting my stuff together to build an outdoor barbecue. Cinder block,
fire coal starter area, cooking grid, all that stuff.

I was wondering. I know I will need an area to start wood and reduce it to
coals. After that, when I transfer it to another area where it will provide
heat and smoke to the meat ......

In that area, should I place the hot coals (or hot briquettes) on a flat
surface, such as concrete, or to a grid? I have some very hefty expanded
metal that I will support with hefty rebar to avoid sagging.

I was wondering if during the cooking process, it is better to have the
coals on a flat bed, or on a grid. If it is on a grid, the air can get to
all sides, making it a little hotter. And the ashes can fall through, as
well as some of the hot coals. If it is on a flat surface, the ashes can
cause the coals to die out a bit, or at least provide a little less heat.

Which is better, a grid, or flat area for hot coals?

Thanks.

I'm about ready to start construction, and I would like to do this just
once. I have been to several sites on the building of many smokers. I just
need a few more answers to fine tune the final design.

Steve

"Steve B" > wrote:

> Which is better, a grid, or flat area for hot coals?

No question - a portable anti-gravity pad is what you want.
They're a bit expensive but they work the best by far.

monroe(wouldn't use anything but)

monroe, of course wrote:
> "Steve B" > wrote:
>
>> Which is better, a grid, or flat area for hot coals?
>
> No question - a portable anti-gravity pad is what you want.
> They're a bit expensive but they work the best by far.

That well may be. However, the only AGPs (Anti Gravity Pad) worth getting
are those which can be plugged into a 240v 30 amp circuit. I've tried the
rechargable units and they ain't worth crap.
--
A democracy is two wolves and a small lamb voting on what to have for
dinner. Freedom under a constitutional republic is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote. --- Anon

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:15:18 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:00:18 -0700, Dave Bugg wrote:
> >
> >> monroe, of course wrote:
> >>> "Steve B" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Which is better, a grid, or flat area for hot coals?
> >>>
> >>> No question - a portable anti-gravity pad is what you want.
> >>> They're a bit expensive but they work the best by far.
> >>
> >> That well may be. However, the only AGPs (Anti Gravity Pad) worth getting
> >> are those which can be plugged into a 240v 30 amp circuit. I've tried the
> >> rechargable units and they ain't worth crap.
> >
> > And you also have to make sure you crab couple it with pole reversible
> > mokstones to keep it steady.
>
> Blahblablahbla.....
>
> ..."Grab a couple of pole reversible mokstones to keep it steady"
> Sheesh.
>
> See what you made me do, Monroe?
>

Aww, man, you use the mokstones to weigh down the meat!

monroe(the AG makes grills and rotis obsolete)

"monroe, of course" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:15:18 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:00:18 -0700, Dave Bugg wrote:
>> >
>> >> monroe, of course wrote:
>> >>> "Steve B" > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Which is better, a grid, or flat area for hot coals?
>> >>>
>> >>> No question - a portable anti-gravity pad is what you want.
>> >>> They're a bit expensive but they work the best by far.
>> >>
>> >> That well may be. However, the only AGPs (Anti Gravity Pad) worth
>> >> getting
>> >> are those which can be plugged into a 240v 30 amp circuit. I've tried
>> >> the
>> >> rechargable units and they ain't worth crap.
>> >
>> > And you also have to make sure you crab couple it with pole reversible
>> > mokstones to keep it steady.
>>
>> Blahblablahbla.....
>>
>> ..."Grab a couple of pole reversible mokstones to keep it steady"
>> Sheesh.
>>
>> See what you made me do, Monroe?
>>
>
> Aww, man, you use the mokstones to weigh down the meat!
>
> monroe(the AG makes grills and rotis obsolete)

Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet. Opening
up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.

Steve

"Steve B" > wrote:

> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet. Opening
> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>

I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
history of success.

monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)

On Jun 20, 8:40*am, "Steve B" > wrote:

>*Opening
> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>
> Steve


Who claimed irony is dead?

"monroe, of course" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Steve B" > wrote:
>
>> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet.
>> Opening
>> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>>
>
> I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
> BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
> history of success.
>
> monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)

Yes, asking a question related to the group's topic, and relevant, and
getting claptrap about anti gravity stuff is pretty ignorant, isn't it?

Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one..........
poof..........gone.............

Steve

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:46 -0700, Steve B wrote:

> "monroe, of course" > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> "Steve B" > wrote:
>>
>>> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet.
>>> Opening
>>> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>>>
>>
>> I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
>> BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
>> history of success.
>>
>> monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)
>
> Yes, asking a question related to the group's topic, and relevant, and
> getting claptrap about anti gravity stuff is pretty ignorant, isn't it?
>
> Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one..........
> poof..........gone.............

I agree. These people are so inhospitable and downright mean!

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:39:39 -0500, Usenet Support Personnel
> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:46 -0700, Steve B wrote:
>
>> "monroe, of course" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>>
>>> "Steve B" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet.
>>>> Opening
>>>> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
>>> BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
>>> history of success.
>>>
>>> monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)
>>
>> Yes, asking a question related to the group's topic, and relevant, and
>> getting claptrap about anti gravity stuff is pretty ignorant, isn't it?
>>
>> Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one..........
>> poof..........gone.............
>
>I agree. These people are so inhospitable and downright mean!

PLONKAROO!!!

On 6/20/2012 5:48 PM, Steve B wrote:
> "monroe, of > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> "Steve > wrote:
>>
>>> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet.
>>> Opening
>>> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>>>
>>
>> I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
>> BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
>> history of success.
>>
>> monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)
>
> Yes, asking a question related to the group's topic, and relevant, and
> getting claptrap about anti gravity stuff is pretty ignorant, isn't it?
>
> Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one..........
> poof..........gone.............
>
> Steve
>
>


I am not sure what your purpose is around here. It sounds as you're a
newbie to barbecuing and want to learn more. We've all been there.
Lot's of tips, tricks and other valuable information can be learned from
here. Coming here and not liking someones answer and trying to tell
them be quiet is not gonna make you any friends.

It's obvious you don't know monroe well. He's been around a dozen years
or more. He has on many occasions made me chuckle or outright LOL. I
doubt I am the only one who enjoy his posts for the humor value.

Get with the program. Learn to laugh or ignore those you don't care
for. But stop bashing others you don't like. Many have been around here
for several years. You continue your bashing of others, I can guarantee
very few will be willing to offer you valuable advice. So far, you have
had very good advice to some of your questions. It's getting less and
less though. It can get to zero. But that's your choice...

BBQ
--
Vegetarian

An old Indian term for poor hunter...

"bbq" > wrote in message
. com...
> On 6/20/2012 5:48 PM, Steve B wrote:
>> "monroe, of > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>>
>>> "Steve > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet.
>>>> Opening
>>>> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
>>> BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
>>> history of success.
>>>
>>> monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)
>>
>> Yes, asking a question related to the group's topic, and relevant, and
>> getting claptrap about anti gravity stuff is pretty ignorant, isn't it?
>>
>> Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one..........
>> poof..........gone.............
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>
>
> I am not sure what your purpose is around here. It sounds as you're a
> newbie to barbecuing and want to learn more. We've all been there. Lot's
> of tips, tricks and other valuable information can be learned from here.
> Coming here and not liking someones answer and trying to tell them be
> quiet is not gonna make you any friends.
>
> It's obvious you don't know monroe well. He's been around a dozen years or
> more. He has on many occasions made me chuckle or outright LOL. I doubt
> I am the only one who enjoy his posts for the humor value.
>
> Get with the program. Learn to laugh or ignore those you don't care for.
> But stop bashing others you don't like. Many have been around here for
> several years. You continue your bashing of others, I can guarantee very
> few will be willing to offer you valuable advice. So far, you have had
> very good advice to some of your questions. It's getting less and less
> though. It can get to zero. But that's your choice...
>
> BBQ

I have yet to get ONE answer to the question. The question was a simple
honest one, written in a form that no one could have found offensive or
contentious. It was asked to gain knowledge. If this is how this group is
when dealing with questions from those outside the little circle of people
who rule the group, then there is no value to coming here for a newbie. Or
anyone else. It is typical of the decay and demise of many usenet
newsgroups. I come here day after day, and see no new messages. Why is it
that a topic as popular as this has no new questions day after day? I think
I know the answer.

I leave you to yourselves. When I really need to know something, Google is
far far superior to the elitist snobs here. And their sockpuppets.

Steve

"Steve B" > wrote:

> I have yet to get ONE answer to the question. The question was a simple
> honest one, written in a form that no one could have found offensive or
> contentious. It was asked to gain knowledge. If this is how this group is
> when dealing with questions from those outside the little circle of people
> who rule the group, then there is no value to coming here for a newbie. Or
> anyone else. It is typical of the decay and demise of many usenet
> newsgroups. I come here day after day, and see no new messages. Why is it
> that a topic as popular as this has no new questions day after day? I think
> I know the answer.
>
> I leave you to yourselves. When I really need to know something, Google is
> far far superior to the elitist snobs here. And their sockpuppets.
>

I once thought there wasn't such a thing as a stupid question.
Then--along came Kent.
Your original question might not be stupid but it sure as fooch pegged
the meter for INANITY. And BLOVIATION. You even answered it for yourself
as you asked it,fer crapssake! We The Answerers had pretty much diddly
to work with here (excepting perhaps the comedic value of your post)
Setting wood on fire and cooking meat with it is,indeed,too difficult
for some folks to do. Such a fantastic demonstration of a lack of common
sense as you've shown here makes me wonder if you can handle the task
safely. Paying an 'elitist snob' to do the job for you might be the best
course of action for you.

monroe(helping to 'rule the group' through 'decay and demise' since '98)

Cam wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:39:39 -0500, Usenet Support Personnel
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:46 -0700, Steve B wrote:

>> I agree. These people are so inhospitable and downright mean!

> PLONKAROO!!!

Well, that was downright inhospitable and mean.....<snicker>

--
A democracy is two wolves and a small lamb voting on what to have for
dinner. Freedom under a constitutional republic is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote. --- Anon

On Jun 20, 9:23*pm, bbq > wrote:
> On 6/20/2012 5:48 PM, Steve B wrote:

> > Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one...........
> > poof..........gone.............
>
> > Steve
>
> I am not sure what your purpose is around here. It sounds as you're a
> newbie to barbecuing and want to learn more.


There, right there, that's the problem. He comes across like one, but
the guy is at least 60 y.o., he's no newb.

Most of his queries are on particulars.


And he has often asked, received good replies and not responded. He
most often replies to gripe.

Pretty anti social type and is getting his due.

On Jun 21, 9:06*am, "monroe, of course" >
wrote:
> *"Steve B" > wrote:
>
> > I have yet to get ONE answer to the question. *The question was a simple
> > honest one, written in a form that no one could have found offensive or
> > contentious. *It was asked to gain knowledge. *If this is how this group is
> > when dealing with questions from those outside the little circle of people
> > who rule the group, then there is no value to coming here for a newbie. *Or
> > anyone else. *It is typical of the decay and demise of many usenet
> > newsgroups. *I come here day after day, and see no new messages. *Why is it
> > that a topic as popular as this has no new questions day after day? *I think
> > I know the answer.
>
> > I leave you to yourselves. *When I really need to know something, Google is
> > far far superior to the elitist snobs here. *And their sockpuppets.
>
> I once thought there wasn't such a thing as a stupid question.
> Then--along came Kent.
> Your original question might not be stupid but it sure as fooch pegged
> the meter for INANITY. And BLOVIATION. You even answered it for yourself
> as you asked it,fer crapssake! We The Answerers had pretty much diddly
> to work with here (excepting perhaps the comedic value of your post)
> Setting wood on fire and cooking meat with it is,indeed,too difficult
> for some folks to do. Such a fantastic demonstration of a lack of common
> sense as you've shown here makes me wonder if you can handle the task
> safely. Paying an 'elitist snob' to do the job for you might be the best
> course of action for you.
>
> monroe(helping to 'rule the group' through 'decay and demise' since '98)

Heh
Perfect.

On Jun 20, 10:23*pm, Cam > wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:39:39 -0500, Usenet Support Personnel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:46 -0700, Steve B wrote:
>
> >> "monroe, of course" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
> >>> "Steve B" > wrote:
>
> >>>> Look, if you don't know the answer, just say so, and then be quiet.
> >>>> Opening
> >>>> up your yap and making yourself look ignorant doesn't do a lot for you.
>
> >>> I do the best I can when the questions are of such low quality.
> >>> BTW,telling me to be quiet and shut my yap doesn't have much of a
> >>> history of success.
>
> >>> monroe(is yr middle name Kent,p'haps?)
>
> >> Yes, asking a question related to the group's topic, and relevant, and
> >> getting claptrap about anti gravity stuff is pretty ignorant, isn't it?
>
> >> Keeping you silent is as easy as two keystrokes....... two, one...........
> >> poof..........gone.............
>
> >I agree. *These people are so inhospitable and downright mean!
>
> PLONKAROO!!!

you're so inhospitable and downright mean!