In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> On 4/21/2010 9:27 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/20/2010 9:14 PM, Omelet wrote:
> >>> In >,
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Ever had a horned lizard squirt blood at you from the glands behind the
> >>>>> eyes? I did. A couple of times.
> >>>>
> >>>> Same here, when my pet was new to me.
> >>>
> >>> <lol> It can be disconcerting to say the least!
> >>> They are very expressive for a lizard imho.
> >>
> >> Lotsa push ups too!
> >>
> >> Must have a Marine background ;-)
> >
> > <Snork> Second only to the Anole on pushups!
> > Seems to be a lizard thing.<g>
>
> Lol, they do stay in shape...

Unless they eat well. ;-)

> > <lol> They got powerful hind legs! I got my tadpole from the pet store.
> > She was in with the feeder goldfish. They said that they came in
> > accidently from time to time.
>
> Interesting, do goldfish get after them at all?

Bullfrog tad's are too big!
>
> > Ob food, Fiesta has fresh frozen frog legs for around $5.00 per lb.
> > Cleaned squids too, or just squid rings if you want them that way. Same
> > price.
> >
> > Got some fresh frozen catfish fillets for $2.00 per lb. the other day.
> > I plan to coat them lightly in spiced rice flour and bake them.
>
> I've been finding pretty good quality ocean perch fillets at Wal Mart of
> late - forgot the price, but very reasonable.
>
> Dredged in corn meal and seasoned flour, egg dip, they're dandy in an
> iron skillet of hot veg, oil.

Yum. :-)
>
> >> Hamsters I do not care for, very unpredictable and spiteful.
> >
> > On both points, we totally agree! Hamsters are cute but do not really
> > make good pets.
>
> They even attack gerbils, which I find unforgivable. No interspecies
> aggression, grrr....

Yah right. I picked up a hamster once from the school lab and put it in
a cage with a mouse just for transport. Within seconds, the hamster
ripped the throat out of the mouse and it was dead.

The hamster was not nice to humans either. It became snake food.
>
> >>
> >>> The ones that sniff at your hand in curiosity are possibilities.
> >>> Pick one up, let it sit in your hand.
> >>> If it does not try to escape or otherwise act upset, take it home and
> >>> handle it a LOT.
> >>
> >> Yes, early and often.
> >
> > Kinda like kittens or baby skunks.<g>
>
> Yup.
>
> >>
> >>> I always bought pet rats when they were less than half-grown by that
> >>> criteria and was never disappointed. :-) My last rat was one of the
> >>> hairless autosomal recessive variety. She lived a shorter life than
> >>> usual but was a delightful pet while she lasted. I called her "Jeanette
> >>> Luc'".<g>
> >>
> >> Lol.
> >
> > I see you recognize the reference. ;-)
>
> Alphaville?

Star Trek.

>
> >>
> >>> I had rats adopted at an older age at one point. I never hesitated to
> >>> use a rat that attacked and bit as reptile food. I bred poultry for
> >>> many years, and rodents for a few. Offspring bred from aggressive or
> >>> mean adult animals nearly always turned out to be equally as
> >>> undesirable...
> >>
> >> One wonders if too with people....
> >
> > Nature vs. nurture has been a favorite of shrinks for years!
>
> I'm going with a straddle, some of both...

Indeed. :-)
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On 4/22/2010 8:07 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> On 4/21/2010 9:27 PM, Omelet wrote:
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/20/2010 9:14 PM, Omelet wrote:
>>>>> In >,
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ever had a horned lizard squirt blood at you from the glands behind the
>>>>>>> eyes? I did. A couple of times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same here, when my pet was new to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> <lol> It can be disconcerting to say the least!
>>>>> They are very expressive for a lizard imho.
>>>>
>>>> Lotsa push ups too!
>>>>
>>>> Must have a Marine background ;-)
>>>
>>> <Snork> Second only to the Anole on pushups!
>>> Seems to be a lizard thing.<g>
>>
>> Lol, they do stay in shape...
>
> Unless they eat well. ;-)
>
>>> <lol> They got powerful hind legs! I got my tadpole from the pet store.
>>> She was in with the feeder goldfish. They said that they came in
>>> accidently from time to time.
>>
>> Interesting, do goldfish get after them at all?
>
> Bullfrog tad's are too big!

OK, guess mine were some other smaller froggie.

>>
>>> Ob food, Fiesta has fresh frozen frog legs for around $5.00 per lb.
>>> Cleaned squids too, or just squid rings if you want them that way. Same
>>> price.
>>>
>>> Got some fresh frozen catfish fillets for $2.00 per lb. the other day.
>>> I plan to coat them lightly in spiced rice flour and bake them.
>>
>> I've been finding pretty good quality ocean perch fillets at Wal Mart of
>> late - forgot the price, but very reasonable.
>>
>> Dredged in corn meal and seasoned flour, egg dip, they're dandy in an
>> iron skillet of hot veg, oil.
>
> Yum. :-)
>>
>>>> Hamsters I do not care for, very unpredictable and spiteful.
>>>
>>> On both points, we totally agree! Hamsters are cute but do not really
>>> make good pets.
>>
>> They even attack gerbils, which I find unforgivable. No interspecies
>> aggression, grrr....
>
> Yah right. I picked up a hamster once from the school lab and put it in
> a cage with a mouse just for transport. Within seconds, the hamster
> ripped the throat out of the mouse and it was dead.
>
> The hamster was not nice to humans either. It became snake food.

A sensible end to an unreasonable killer!

>>
>>>>
>>>>> The ones that sniff at your hand in curiosity are possibilities.
>>>>> Pick one up, let it sit in your hand.
>>>>> If it does not try to escape or otherwise act upset, take it home and
>>>>> handle it a LOT.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, early and often.
>>>
>>> Kinda like kittens or baby skunks.<g>
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> I always bought pet rats when they were less than half-grown by that
>>>>> criteria and was never disappointed. :-) My last rat was one of the
>>>>> hairless autosomal recessive variety. She lived a shorter life than
>>>>> usual but was a delightful pet while she lasted. I called her "Jeanette
>>>>> Luc'".<g>
>>>>
>>>> Lol.
>>>
>>> I see you recognize the reference. ;-)
>>
>> Alphaville?
>
> Star Trek.

Lol, and you had one named Guinan too?

>>
>>>>
>>>>> I had rats adopted at an older age at one point. I never hesitated to
>>>>> use a rat that attacked and bit as reptile food. I bred poultry for
>>>>> many years, and rodents for a few. Offspring bred from aggressive or
>>>>> mean adult animals nearly always turned out to be equally as
>>>>> undesirable...
>>>>
>>>> One wonders if too with people....
>>>
>>> Nature vs. nurture has been a favorite of shrinks for years!
>>
>> I'm going with a straddle, some of both...
>
> Indeed. :-)

Some kids just come out mean, regardless of the parents.

In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> > The hamster was not nice to humans either. It became snake food.
>
> A sensible end to an unreasonable killer!

Satisfying... even tho' I'm sure she was following her nature.
But then again... I do believe that genes count.

> >>>>> I always bought pet rats when they were less than half-grown by that
> >>>>> criteria and was never disappointed. :-) My last rat was one of the
> >>>>> hairless autosomal recessive variety. She lived a shorter life than
> >>>>> usual but was a delightful pet while she lasted. I called her "Jeanette
> >>>>> Luc'".<g>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lol.
> >>>
> >>> I see you recognize the reference. ;-)
> >>
> >> Alphaville?
> >
> > Star Trek.
>
> Lol, and you had one named Guinan too?

Not a bad idea. <g> If I ever adopt another rat!

> >>> Nature vs. nurture has been a favorite of shrinks for years!
> >>
> >> I'm going with a straddle, some of both...
> >
> > Indeed. :-)
>
> Some kids just come out mean, regardless of the parents.

Societal influence perhaps?
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On 4/23/2010 7:37 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>> The hamster was not nice to humans either. It became snake food.
>>
>> A sensible end to an unreasonable killer!
>
> Satisfying... even tho' I'm sure she was following her nature.
> But then again... I do believe that genes count.
>
>>>>>>> I always bought pet rats when they were less than half-grown by that
>>>>>>> criteria and was never disappointed. :-) My last rat was one of the
>>>>>>> hairless autosomal recessive variety. She lived a shorter life than
>>>>>>> usual but was a delightful pet while she lasted. I called her "Jeanette
>>>>>>> Luc'".<g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you recognize the reference. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Alphaville?
>>>
>>> Star Trek.
>>
>> Lol, and you had one named Guinan too?
>
> Not a bad idea.<g> If I ever adopt another rat!
>
>>>>> Nature vs. nurture has been a favorite of shrinks for years!
>>>>
>>>> I'm going with a straddle, some of both...
>>>
>>> Indeed. :-)
>>
>> Some kids just come out mean, regardless of the parents.
>
> Societal influence perhaps?

I'm recalling one or two I found that way very early on, 5 or so.

That gives me pause.

In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> On 4/23/2010 7:37 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>> The hamster was not nice to humans either. It became snake food.
> >>
> >> A sensible end to an unreasonable killer!
> >
> > Satisfying... even tho' I'm sure she was following her nature.
> > But then again... I do believe that genes count.
> >
> >>>>>>> I always bought pet rats when they were less than half-grown by that
> >>>>>>> criteria and was never disappointed. :-) My last rat was one of the
> >>>>>>> hairless autosomal recessive variety. She lived a shorter life than
> >>>>>>> usual but was a delightful pet while she lasted. I called her
> >>>>>>> "Jeanette
> >>>>>>> Luc'".<g>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lol.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see you recognize the reference. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Alphaville?
> >>>
> >>> Star Trek.
> >>
> >> Lol, and you had one named Guinan too?
> >
> > Not a bad idea.<g> If I ever adopt another rat!
> >
> >>>>> Nature vs. nurture has been a favorite of shrinks for years!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm going with a straddle, some of both...
> >>>
> >>> Indeed. :-)
> >>
> >> Some kids just come out mean, regardless of the parents.
> >
> > Societal influence perhaps?
>
> I'm recalling one or two I found that way very early on, 5 or so.
>
> That gives me pause.

I think sit-com television has made the problem worse...
--
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On 4/24/2010 5:10 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2010 7:37 PM, Omelet wrote:
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The hamster was not nice to humans either. It became snake food.
>>>>
>>>> A sensible end to an unreasonable killer!
>>>
>>> Satisfying... even tho' I'm sure she was following her nature.
>>> But then again... I do believe that genes count.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> I always bought pet rats when they were less than half-grown by that
>>>>>>>>> criteria and was never disappointed. :-) My last rat was one of the
>>>>>>>>> hairless autosomal recessive variety. She lived a shorter life than
>>>>>>>>> usual but was a delightful pet while she lasted. I called her
>>>>>>>>> "Jeanette
>>>>>>>>> Luc'".<g>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see you recognize the reference. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alphaville?
>>>>>
>>>>> Star Trek.
>>>>
>>>> Lol, and you had one named Guinan too?
>>>
>>> Not a bad idea.<g> If I ever adopt another rat!
>>>
>>>>>>> Nature vs. nurture has been a favorite of shrinks for years!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going with a straddle, some of both...
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Some kids just come out mean, regardless of the parents.
>>>
>>> Societal influence perhaps?
>>
>> I'm recalling one or two I found that way very early on, 5 or so.
>>
>> That gives me pause.
>
> I think sit-com television has made the problem worse...

Human imitative capacity + little restraint = yes.

In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> >>>> Some kids just come out mean, regardless of the parents.
> >>>
> >>> Societal influence perhaps?
> >>
> >> I'm recalling one or two I found that way very early on, 5 or so.
> >>
> >> That gives me pause.
> >
> > I think sit-com television has made the problem worse...
>
> Human imitative capacity + little restraint = yes.

I agree...
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