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Hi,
Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: If you should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following meats, what would it be? Beef Chicken Pork I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or even on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo wings and such I know I would have to work up something extra. What I am looking for is the everyday stuff that "can't fail". -- //ceed |
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ceed wrote:
> Hi, > > Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: If > you should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following meats, > what would it be? > > Beef > Chicken > Pork > > I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or > even on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo wings > and such I know I would have to work up something extra. What I am > looking for is the everyday stuff that "can't fail". > The majority of these spice mixtures are mostly salt. They also have preservatives. Why not find a recipe you like and make your own? Keep it in a crew-top jar so it will stay fresh. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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"Brick" > wrote in message ter.com... > >> >> The majority of these spice mixtures are mostly salt. They also >> have >> preservatives. Why not find a recipe you like and make your >> own? Keep >> it in a crew-top jar so it will stay fresh. >> >> -- >> Janet Wilder > > What Janet said. I make my own 'Bayou Blast' with half the salt > of the > original. > > -- > Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) Mine has virtually no salt or black pepper. I add them separately to keep volume down. -- Nonny ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated, and articulate person who has absolutely no clue concerning what they are talking about. The person is typically a media commentator or politician. |
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ceed wrote:
> Hi, > > Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: > If you should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following > meats, what would it be? > > Beef > Chicken > Pork > > I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or > even on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo > wings and such I know I would have to work up something extra. What I > am looking for is the everyday stuff that "can't fail". Have you looked at www.penzeys.com ? They have some good blends. You can buy them and get good results, or you can look at the ingredients and be inspired to make your own from similar ingredient. It is difficult to make a recommendation because personal taste can vary so much. I tend to go a couple of different ways. As a base, I use a little kosher salt, much less than commercial product have. It helps to act as a carrier to spread the others. black pepper, garlic powder and onion powder go into most of my basic blends. From there, I may deviate to Mediterranean style by adding oregano, basil, and a higher portion of garlic. If it is pork, rosemary is in there. For frying or the grill, I'd add some paprika, some form of red pepper if I want a bit of heat. Old Bay is handy to keep around as it is good on seafood, chicken, pork, or as a kick up for the basic blend I start with. Penzeys has something call Chesapeake seasoning that is very similar. Experiment a little. Have some fun. |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:39:27 -0600, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> ceed wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: >> If you should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following >> meats, what would it be? >> >> Beef >> Chicken >> Pork >> >> I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or >> even on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo >> wings and such I know I would have to work up something extra. What I >> am looking for is the everyday stuff that "can't fail". > > Have you looked at www.penzeys.com ? They have some good blends. You > can > buy them and get good results, or you can look at the ingredients and be > inspired to make your own from similar ingredient. > > It is difficult to make a recommendation because personal taste can vary > so > much. I tend to go a couple of different ways. As a base, I use a > little > kosher salt, much less than commercial product have. It helps to act as > a > carrier to spread the others. black pepper, garlic powder and onion > powder > go into most of my basic blends. From there, I may deviate to > Mediterranean > style by adding oregano, basil, and a higher portion of garlic. If it is > pork, rosemary is in there. > > For frying or the grill, I'd add some paprika, some form of red pepper > if I > want a bit of heat. > > Old Bay is handy to keep around as it is good on seafood, chicken, pork, > or > as a kick up for the basic blend I start with. Penzeys has something > call > Chesapeake seasoning that is very similar. > > Experiment a little. Have some fun. > > Thank you. Lots of good advice there! The three I currently keep around is Lawry's, Old Bay and Tony Cacherer's Creole Seasoning. I also keep Morton's Sausage and Meatloaf seasoning around since it's the only way I know to get the perfect pork breakfast sausage, but I have not found other uses for that blend except for meat loaf of course. Tony Cacherer's is used a lot when my kids fry eggs or links. They seem to love that stuff. I cook for a large family, so at times I do not have the time to be very creative, but I am still doing port chops, fried chicken or even some sort of steaks. That's when I wish I had something I could just grab and be sure it just works -- //ceed |
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:13:54 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:19:06 -0600, ceed wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: If >> you >> should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following meats, what >> would it be? >> >> Beef >> Chicken >> Pork >> >> I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or >> even >> on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo wings and >> such >> I know I would have to work up something extra. What I am looking for is >> the everyday stuff that "can't fail". > > Montreal Steak Seasoning (in the CostCo sized canister) for brisket. > It's Garlic, coarse salt, pepper - plus a few other things that work > perfect on brisket and it's the right size grind (pepper could be a > little more coarse). Noted. Thanks! > > Old Bay for pork ribs. > Got that already. Used it on pork chops last nigh. Yummy! > -sw -- //ceed |
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> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:59:09 -0800, RegForte wrote: > > >> 1 tablespoon ground coriander > > > Am I the only one who can't taste coriander seed? They're not > stale, they're flavorless no matter how old they are. The only seed > I can taste is right off the plant. Once it's dehydrated I can't > taste it at all. I'm sort of with you here. I often buy generic bulk spices cause I'm cheap. With many spices you can get away with using a cheaper (non) brand and make up for the lack of flavor by just using more. Coriander isn't one of them. You have to pony up and pay for a decent brand. That's one of the few I get from Penzeys. You have to buy the seed and grind it yourself (or in the case of pastrami I crush it in an M&P) -- Reg |
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On 2010-01-07, RegForte > wrote:
> Coriander isn't one of them. You have to pony up and pay for a decent > brand. That's one of the few I get from Penzeys. You have to buy the > seed and grind it yourself (or in the case of pastrami I crush it in > an M&P) Likewise, amount of spice used is important. With a more subtle spices like coriander, you need more. Look at unground Indian masalas or even pickling spices. The most dominant spice is coriander seed. Compare that with, say, cloves, which is monster. Not a lot of those little boogers. nb |
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:33:02 -0600, notbob > wrote:
> On 2010-01-07, RegForte > wrote: > >> Coriander isn't one of them. You have to pony up and pay for a decent >> brand. That's one of the few I get from Penzeys. You have to buy the >> seed and grind it yourself (or in the case of pastrami I crush it in >> an M&P) > > Likewise, amount of spice used is important. With a more subtle spices > like coriander, you need more. Look at unground Indian masalas or > even pickling spices. The most dominant spice is coriander seed. > Compare that with, say, cloves, which is monster. Not a lot of those > little boogers. I agree, cloves is an aggressive spice. Used right it's great. Too much, food is destroyed. One I find to even "worse" is nutmeg. It's the one spice you can ruin a meal with using only 1/8 of a tsp > > nb -- //ceed |
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In article <op.u541x4h2325jvr@christian-laptop>,
ceed > wrote: > Hi, > > Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: If you > should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following meats, what > would it be? > > Beef > Chicken > Pork > > I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or even > on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo wings and such > I know I would have to work up something extra. What I am looking for is > the everyday stuff that "can't fail". Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for spice mixes that are made up from half salt! -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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ceed wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:33:02 -0600, notbob > wrote: > >> On 2010-01-07, RegForte > wrote: >> >>> Coriander isn't one of them. You have to pony up and pay for a decent >>> brand. That's one of the few I get from Penzeys. You have to buy the >>> seed and grind it yourself (or in the case of pastrami I crush it in >>> an M&P) >> >> >> Likewise, amount of spice used is important. With a more subtle spices >> like coriander, you need more. Look at unground Indian masalas or >> even pickling spices. The most dominant spice is coriander seed. >> Compare that with, say, cloves, which is monster. Not a lot of those >> little boogers. > > > I agree, cloves is an aggressive spice. Used right it's great. Too > much, food is destroyed. One I find to even "worse" is nutmeg. It's the > one spice you can ruin a meal with using only 1/8 of a tsp Yep. I usually don't even measure it by teaspoon in anything other than large batches. I go by "number of little specks". Great stuff though, used properly. As is mace. Another thing about spice blend recipes... quality/strength of ingredients varies and recipe quantities should only be a guideline. Always taste and adjust. -- Reg |
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:06:46 -0600, RegForte > wrote:
> I agree, cloves is an aggressive spice. Used right it's great. Too > much, food is destroyed. One I find to even "worse" is nutmeg. It's the > one spice you can ruin a meal with using only 1/8 of a tsp Yep. I > usually don't even measure it by teaspoon in anything other > than large batches. I go by "number of little specks". LOL. So you're at the molecular level as far as nutmeg is concerned? > Great stuff though, used properly. As is mace. Never really used Mace. I do not know what it's good for. My fault. I will do some homework on that one. > Another thing about spice blend recipes... quality/strength of > ingredients varies and recipe quantities should only be a > guideline. Always taste and adjust. Great advice. Thanks! -- //ceed |
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:03:12 -0600, Omelet > wrote:
> In article <op.u541x4h2325jvr@christian-laptop>, > ceed > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Since there's a lot of experience in here I would like to ask this: If >> you >> should recommend a pre-made spice blend for the following meats, what >> would it be? >> >> Beef >> Chicken >> Pork >> >> I am looking for good seasoning mixes I can purchase in the store or >> even >> on-line. For specialties like brisket, corned beef, buffalo wings and >> such >> I know I would have to work up something extra. What I am looking for is >> the everyday stuff that "can't fail". > > Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. I have their lemon pepper which is great, and also their chicken fajita and Mexican Rice blends. Both good. Their stuff is also reasonably priced and readily available around these parts (Austin,TX). > > Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > spice mixes that are made up from half salt! Never thought of that. Now I do.. -- //ceed |
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In article <op.u56gx3pn325jvr@christian-laptop>,
ceed > wrote: > > Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > > I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. > > I have their lemon pepper which is great, and also their chicken fajita > and Mexican Rice blends. Both good. Their stuff is also reasonably priced > and readily available around these parts (Austin,TX). I'm close to you. Down the road in San Marcos. <g> > > > > Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > > spice mixes that are made up from half salt! > > Never thought of that. Now I do.. > > > -- > //ceed It makes a very big difference in quality! I personally prefer to control the amount of salt I add to anything I cook but be able to be liberal with my spices without having to worry about it. <g> HEB generally seems to carry a decent selection of Fiesta brand, but I admit I've not checked Fiesta Market's spice aisle yet... -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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Omelet wrote:
> Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. > > Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > spice mixes that are made up from half salt! I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to find the salt-free version lately. Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able to get that in Lafayette, LA. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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On Jan 7, 9:13*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Montreal Steak Seasoning (in the CostCo sized canister) for brisket. > It's Garlic, coarse salt, pepper - plus a few other things that work > perfect on brisket and it's the right size grind (pepper could be a > little more coarse). I use Montreal Steak a lot. You can use it as a base and add what ever you like to it. I add chili powder for baked chicken, turmeric for pork chops. |
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Janet Wilder > wrote: > Omelet wrote: > > > Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > > I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. > > > > Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > > spice mixes that are made up from half salt! > > I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty > good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to > find the salt-free version lately. > > Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able > to get that in Lafayette, LA. I've not tried the bean seasoning... You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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Sqwertz > wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:03:12 -0600, Omelet wrote: > > > Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > > I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. > > > > Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > > spice mixes that are made up from half salt! > > Fiesta uses other fillers, though. Like rice flour. > > -sw At least it's gluten free. <g> Our local HEB just quit carrying the salt free lemon pepper (again dammit!), so now I've kept the shaker and am making my own from the bulk herb section. 1/3 ground black pepper, 2/3 ground dried lemon peel. It's working well. I do still use the salt free fajita seasoning, and it comes in the large containers. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > Janet Wilder > wrote: > > >>Omelet wrote: >> >> >>>Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. >>>I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. >>> >>>Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for >>>spice mixes that are made up from half salt! >> >>I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty >>good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to >>find the salt-free version lately. >> >>Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able >>to get that in Lafayette, LA. > > > I've not tried the bean seasoning... > > You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) I'd guess beans -- Reg |
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RegForte > wrote: > Omelet wrote: > > > In article >, > > Janet Wilder > wrote: > > > > > >>Omelet wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > >>>I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. > >>> > >>>Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > >>>spice mixes that are made up from half salt! > >> > >>I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty > >>good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to > >>find the salt-free version lately. > >> > >>Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able > >>to get that in Lafayette, LA. > > > > > > I've not tried the bean seasoning... > > > > You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) > > I'd guess beans <rolls eyes> ;-) I'm just not in to vegetarian bean dishes! I most often cook them with ham scraps/bones or bacon! -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > Janet Wilder > wrote: > >> Omelet wrote: >> >>> Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. >>> I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. >>> >>> Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for >>> spice mixes that are made up from half salt! >> I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty >> good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to >> find the salt-free version lately. >> >> Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able >> to get that in Lafayette, LA. > > I've not tried the bean seasoning... > > You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) beans. Pinto beans to be exact. I have used it to make charro beans. Since I put a lot of bacon in the charro beans, I don't want the salt form the seasoning. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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Janet Wilder > wrote: > Omelet wrote: > > In article >, > > Janet Wilder > wrote: > > > >> Omelet wrote: > >> > >>> Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. > >>> I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. > >>> > >>> Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for > >>> spice mixes that are made up from half salt! > >> I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty > >> good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to > >> find the salt-free version lately. > >> > >> Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able > >> to get that in Lafayette, LA. > > > > I've not tried the bean seasoning... > > > > You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) > > beans. Pinto beans to be exact. I have used it to make charro beans. > Since I put a lot of bacon in the charro beans, I don't want the salt > form the seasoning. So you make a vegetarian type bean dish... Okay. :-) Thanks. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > Janet Wilder > wrote: > >> Omelet wrote: >>> In article >, >>> Janet Wilder > wrote: >>> >>>> Omelet wrote: >>>> >>>>> Fiesta makes some decent mixes imho. >>>>> I use their salt free fajita seasoning and salt free lemon pepper. >>>>> >>>>> Note the "salt free" designation. I refuse to pay a premium price for >>>>> spice mixes that are made up from half salt! >>>> I agree about Fiesta salt-free blends. Their fajita seasoning is pretty >>>> good. They also make a nice bean seasoning, but I have not been able to >>>> find the salt-free version lately. >>>> >>>> Tony Chachare used to make a salt-free Cajun blend, but I was only able >>>> to get that in Lafayette, LA. >>> I've not tried the bean seasoning... >>> >>> You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) >> beans. Pinto beans to be exact. I have used it to make charro beans. >> Since I put a lot of bacon in the charro beans, I don't want the salt >> form the seasoning. > > So you make a vegetarian type bean dish... > > Okay. :-) Thanks. Yes. With vegetarian bacon. :-) -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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Janet Wilder > wrote:
> Omelet wrote: > > [ . . . ] > > So you make a vegetarian type bean dish... > > > > Okay. :-) Thanks. > > Yes. With vegetarian bacon. :-) The meat from vegetarian pigs is wonderful, but don't let them eat too many of your truffles! -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:12:06 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:59:09 -0800, RegForte wrote: > >> 1 tablespoon ground coriander > >Am I the only one who can't taste coriander seed? They're not >stale, they're flavorless no matter how old they are. The only seed >I can taste is right off the plant. Once it's dehydrated I can't >taste it at all. > >-sw I find it wonderfully strong, no matter how old it is. Desideria |
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Janet Wilder > wrote: > >>> You mix with beef? Pork? What please? :-) > >> beans. Pinto beans to be exact. I have used it to make charro beans. > >> Since I put a lot of bacon in the charro beans, I don't want the salt > >> form the seasoning. > > > > So you make a vegetarian type bean dish... > > > > Okay. :-) Thanks. > > Yes. With vegetarian bacon. :-) <chuckles> Is the bacon Kosher as well? -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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