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Jbya 16-10-2003 12:16 AM

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I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.

I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
scale.

25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)

How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?



Reg 16-10-2003 12:22 AM

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Jbya wrote:

> I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?
>
>


If you need a precise amount then measure out a cup of ketchup and do
the math. My guess is ketchup is around 1 1/2 C per lb.

--
Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com


Steve Calvin 16-10-2003 12:26 AM

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Jbya wrote:

> I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?
>
>

4 cups

--
Steve



Jack Schidt® 16-10-2003 01:47 AM

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"Jbya" > wrote in message
...
> I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10

can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?
>
>


Grab another container of equal size and your measuring cup and start
bailing; eyeball 1/4 of the stuff in the can. Keep track and you'll know
from now on.

Then again, you could use google and find a conversion.

Jack

PS If you reply that you need it to the milliliter, I'm gonna reply that
your VCR is blinking high noon.




[email protected] 16-10-2003 01:55 AM

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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:16:04 -0500, "Jbya" > wrote:

>I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
>I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
>of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
>scale.
>
>25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
>115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
>How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
>cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?
>
>http://www.refdesk.com/ has a convert anything selection, plus its a great web site for all kinds of info



Edwin Pawlowski 16-10-2003 03:03 AM

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"Jbya" > wrote in message
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?


Depends.

A cup of ketchup will have a different weight than a cup of oregano or a cup
of salt or a cup of water. Density varies.

Just buy a bottle or two of ketchup in a size that gives the net weight
close to what you need.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome




Bolivar 16-10-2003 03:07 AM

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Jbya wrote:

> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?


Try looking at the top part of the nutrition label. It usually shows the
"serving size" in both volume and weight. Then you'll know how much a
certain quantity of an ingredient weighs.

Boli

Steve Calvin 16-10-2003 03:32 AM

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Bolivar wrote:

> Jbya wrote:
>
>
>>I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
>>of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
>>scale.
>>
>>25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
>>115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>>
>>How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
>>cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?

>
>
> Try looking at the top part of the nutrition label. It usually shows the
> "serving size" in both volume and weight. Then you'll know how much a
> certain quantity of an ingredient weighs.
>
> Boli


Believe me, 1/4 of a #10 can = 4 cups (liquids, which ketchup is
considered)

Don't believe it? Try it.

--
Steve



Duwop 16-10-2003 10:56 AM

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Steve Calvin > wrote in message >...
> Bolivar wrote:
>
> > Jbya wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
> >>of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> >>scale.
> >>


Any recipe calling for ketchup don't need this level of precision.
It's supposed to be inexact, flavors a different for everyone. Unless
it's a ketchup cake? My opinion anyway.....

Warning, bourbon thoughts follow.....

Now I know men that cook tend to veer towards one of two camps, the
precise camp, where everything is written down to a nicety; and the
feel camp, who prefer the mmore organic feel of cooking to taste,
whatever that might be that particular day.

This question is a classic "precision" ( or engineer ) question.

Me? I'm a bit precise (not to the ml of ketchup though) with something
till I've done it once or twice, after I feel I know the result I
want, I start to free form it, while knowing the base I started with.
With things I'm comfortable with, no (conscious) science at all any
longer. Overall I'd like to think I'm more of the latter, but.....

What are you?

Engineer ?
Artist ?
Mixed ?


I'd tell you what I expect to see, but that would influence this
wouldnt it? Therebye ruining it's totally scientific nature, natch...
<bg>


D

TomD 16-10-2003 11:00 AM

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Are we talking about a 1 gallon can?

TomD
"Jbya" > wrote in message
...
> I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a

#10 can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't

have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words,

how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?
>
>




Jack Schidt® 16-10-2003 11:10 AM

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"Duwop" > wrote in message
om...
> What are you?
>
> Engineer ?
> Artist ?
> Mixed ?
>
>


I'm an artist, dammit!

Jack



frohe 16-10-2003 11:45 AM

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Jack Schidt® wrote:
> I'm an artist, dammit!


Dammit, Jim, I'm just a doctor!
--
-frohe
Life is too short to be in a hurry



BOB 16-10-2003 01:08 PM

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Duwop typed:
> Any recipe calling for ketchup don't need this level of precision.
> It's supposed to be inexact, flavors a different for everyone. Unless
> it's a ketchup cake? My opinion anyway.....
>
> What are you?
>
> Engineer ?
> Artist ?
> Mixed ?
>
>
> I'd tell you what I expect to see, but that would influence this
> wouldnt it? Therebye ruining it's totally scientific nature, natch...
> <bg>
>
>
> D


If I'm baking, I try to be an engineer, but since breads and things like that
tend to mess-up around here, I guess I just add things by feel, so I must be
an artist.

BOB



George B. Ross 16-10-2003 01:17 PM

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Duwop ) opined:

> Steve Calvin > wrote in message
> >...
>> Bolivar wrote:
>>
>> > Jbya wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by
>> >>1/4. I know a #10 can of Hunts ketchup has a net weight
>> >>of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a scale.
>> >>

>
> Any recipe calling for ketchup don't need this level of
> precision. It's supposed to be inexact, flavors a different
> for everyone. Unless it's a ketchup cake? My opinion
> anyway.....
>
> Warning, bourbon thoughts follow.....
>
> Now I know men that cook tend to veer towards one of two
> camps, the precise camp, where everything is written down
> to a nicety; and the feel camp, who prefer the mmore
> organic feel of cooking to taste, whatever that might be
> that particular day.
>
> This question is a classic "precision" ( or engineer )
> question.
>
> Me? I'm a bit precise (not to the ml of ketchup though)
> with something till I've done it once or twice, after I
> feel I know the result I want, I start to free form it,
> while knowing the base I started with. With things I'm
> comfortable with, no (conscious) science at all any longer.
> Overall I'd like to think I'm more of the latter, but.....
>
> What are you?
>
> Engineer ?
> Artist ?
> Mixed ?
>
>
> I'd tell you what I expect to see, but that would influence
> this wouldnt it? Therebye ruining it's totally scientific
> nature, natch...
><bg>
>
>


Speaking as an engineer, I'd argue that engineers and artists
should be lumped into the same category.

Scientist is probably a better word for what you are describing.
Engineers like to approximate things and scientists like to know
the answer to the 4th decimal place.

As for your question, I'm a bit of both. The first 3 or 4 times
I make a sauce or rub, I follow the recipe with great care to
measurements. After that, I just get it close, with sometimes
heaping or shy measurements. I rarely will just dump stuff
together and taste to adjust like some people do. It has to be
a recipe that I've made 40-50 times before that happens.

--
George B. Ross is
remove the obvious bit for email
Why is it that being a good boy and being good at being
a boy don't require the same set of skills? - anonymous

Vince 16-10-2003 03:33 PM

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"Jbya" > wrote in message >...
> I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?


The nutrition label for my Heinz ketchup (don't have Hunts) gives a
serving size as 1 tbsp and weighs 17g

16 Tbsp = 1 cup >> 16x17g = 272g

28.3g = 1oz >> 272g/28.3 = 9.61oz for 1 cup

Your 28.75/9.61oz = 2.991 cups or about 3 cups

If hunts ketchup is different you could do a similar calculation.

From a nerd who likes bbq

Vince

Steve Wertz 16-10-2003 06:34 PM

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On 16 Oct 2003 07:33:05 -0700, (Vince) wrote:



>The nutrition label for my Heinz ketchup (don't have Hunts) gives a
>serving size as 1 tbsp and weighs 17g
>
>16 Tbsp = 1 cup >> 16x17g = 272g
>
>28.3g = 1oz >> 272g/28.3 = 9.61oz for 1 cup
>
>Your 28.75/9.61oz = 2.991 cups or about 3 cups


Unfortunatly we're talking fluid volume, not fluid weight.

-sw

Monroe, of course... 16-10-2003 06:51 PM

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In article >, "George B.
Ross" > wrote:

> Speaking as an engineer, I'd argue that engineers and artists
> should be lumped into the same category.
>
> Scientist is probably a better word for what you are describing.
> Engineers like to approximate things and scientists like to know
> the answer to the 4th decimal place.

<snip rest>

Glass half empty or glass half full?
To the engineer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

To answer the question a bit:
for pretty much all liquids, ignore densities and 1pint =1pound.
(Unless the recipe calls for mercury)
A #10 can is for all intents and purposes, a gallon.

monroe(got no PE stamp)

cory 16-10-2003 07:11 PM

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Jbya wrote:

> I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
>
> I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
> of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
> scale.
>
> 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
> How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
> cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?
>
>


According to the nutritional facts on my ketchup bottle, 1 tbsp = 17
grams. Your can contains 192 tbsp. 16 tbsp = 1 cup. Therefore, you have
12 cups. You need 3 cups.


Brick 16-10-2003 09:47 PM

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"Vince" > wrote in message
om...
> "Jbya" > wrote in message

>...
> > I can program my VCR, but I can't seem to get this one right.
> >
> > I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know

a #10 can
> > of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't

have a
> > scale.
> >
> > 25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
> > 115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
> >
> > How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words,

how many
> > cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?

>
> The nutrition label for my Heinz ketchup (don't have Hunts) gives a
> serving size as 1 tbsp and weighs 17g
>
> 16 Tbsp = 1 cup >> 16x17g = 272g
>
> 28.3g = 1oz >> 272g/28.3 = 9.61oz for 1 cup
>
> Your 28.75/9.61oz = 2.991 cups or about 3 cups
>
> If hunts ketchup is different you could do a similar calculation.
>


My 40 0z Hunts bottle contains the same serving size and weight.

> From a nerd who likes bbq
>
> Vince


Like everybody else here, or just about, I just had to calculate it
out
and I got 3.6 cups. (Never mind how). I prefer the method one of
our posters used though. He measured the volumn that came out of
a #10 can and got 16 cups. Voila, 1/4 of that is 4 cups.

I note that the OP didn't have a #10 can and neither do I, so I'll
take the man's word for it.

Brick (Who can never avoid falling into this kind of trap)



Jack Schidt® 16-10-2003 10:41 PM

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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:38 -0400, "Brick" >
> wrote:
>
> > I prefer the method one of
> >our posters used though. He measured the volumn that came out of
> >a #10 can and got 16 cups. Voila, 1/4 of that is 4 cups.

>
> Yes - why even bother to convert volumes to weights and back again,
> when you can just use volume (the beginnning and the end products).
>
> -sw (President of the MENSA BBQ'ers Chapter)



What the hell is MENSA??? Meat Eaters Now Swearing Atkins??

Jack



Jack Schidt® 16-10-2003 11:04 PM

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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:41:41 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> > wrote:
>
> >What the hell is MENSA??? Meat Eaters Now Swearing Atkins??

>
> Meat-Eating Neanderthals Striving for Advancement (on the evolutionary
> ladder)
>
> http://www.mensa.org
>
> -sw



Hehe, I like your translation better.

Jack



PENMART01 25-10-2003 03:49 PM

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>"Jbya" spake:
>
>I am cutting a recipe calling for a #10 of ketchup by 1/4. I know a #10 can
>of Hunts ketchup has a net weight of 7 lbs, 3 oz. Oh, and I don't have a
>scale.
>
>25% of 7 lbs, 3 oz is 115 oz
>115 oz / 4 = 28.75 oz (net wt)
>
>How do I convert this into cup (volume) measure? In other words, how many
>cups does it take to equal 28.75 net wt oz?


#10 can holds ~110 ounces (liquid volume)

1/4 #10 can = ~26 ounces (liquid volume)

Of course any normal brained chimpanzee with measuing cup could have figured
this out within 5 seconds or less.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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````````````
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Steve Wertz 27-10-2003 04:43 AM

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On 25 Oct 2003 14:49:30 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote:

>#10 can holds ~110 ounces (liquid volume)
>
>1/4 #10 can = ~26 ounces (liquid volume)
>
>Of course any normal brained chimpanzee with measuing cup could have figured
>this out within 5 seconds or less.


Any normal brained chimp would have said 1/4 #10 can is *27* ounces,
not 26.

Now go crawl back in your hole.

-sw

Big Jim 27-10-2003 10:13 AM

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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On 25 Oct 2003 14:49:30 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote:
>
> >#10 can holds ~110 ounces (liquid volume)
> >
> >1/4 #10 can = ~26 ounces (liquid volume)
> >
> >Of course any normal brained chimpanzee with measuing cup could have

figured
> >this out within 5 seconds or less.

>
> Any normal brained chimp would have said 1/4 #10 can is *27* ounces,
> not 26.
>
> Now go crawl back in your hole.
>
> -sw

I ain't been keeping up with this thread much but but on my calculator 110
÷ 4 = 27.5 (27½) <g>
--
Big Jim

www.lazyq.com



Steve Wertz 27-10-2003 08:30 PM

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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:13:41 GMT, "Big Jim" >
wrote:

>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On 25 Oct 2003 14:49:30 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote:
>>
>> >#10 can holds ~110 ounces (liquid volume)
>> >
>> >1/4 #10 can = ~26 ounces (liquid volume)
>> >
>> >Of course any normal brained chimpanzee with measuing cup could have

>figured
>> >this out within 5 seconds or less.

>>
>> Any normal brained chimp would have said 1/4 #10 can is *27* ounces,
>> not 26.
>>
>> Now go crawl back in your hole.
>>
>> -sw

> I ain't been keeping up with this thread much but but on my calculator 110
>÷ 4 = 27.5 (27½) <g>


I rounded down just to point out that there was a more accurate whole
number :-)

-sw


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