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Again, the BTU per pound of different brands of charcoals is not the same as
indicated. I'm also assuming 10,000 BTU per hour, which is variable, based on cooking temp, and the size of the cooking unit. I've been unable to find anything about the ingredients of the Sam's Walmart charcoal, and the Trader Joe's charcoall is claimed to be 100% hardwood plus cornstarch to bind and lump is wood. cost weight/lb cost/lb btu/lb cost/10,000 BTU Comp to propane Cost/5 hrs Cost/10 hrs 20 lb Propane $20.00 20 $1.00 21000 $0.48 100.00% $2.38 $4.76 Sam's Choice $5.27 18 $0.29 9000 $0.33 68.31% $1.63 $3.25 Trader Joe's $6.95 18 $0.39 9000 $0.43 90.09% $2.15 $4.29 "Lump" Charcoal varies varies $0.55 9000 $0.61 128.33% $3.06 $6.11 |
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"Theron" > wrote in message ... > Again, the BTU per pound of different brands of charcoals is not the same > as indicated. I'm also assuming 10,000 BTU per hour, which is variable, > based on cooking temp, and the size of the cooking unit. I've been unable > to find anything about the ingredients of the Sam's Walmart charcoal, and > the Trader Joe's charcoall is claimed to be 100% hardwood plus cornstarch > to bind and lump is wood. > cost weight/lb cost/lb btu/lb cost/10,000 > BTU Comp to propane Cost/5 hrs Cost/10 hrs > > 20 lb Propane $20.00 20 $1.00 21000 $0.48 100.00% > $2.38 $4.76 > > Sam's Choice $5.27 18 $0.29 9000 $0.33 68.31% > $1.63 $3.25 > > Trader Joe's $6.95 18 $0.39 9000 $0.43 90.09% > $2.15 $4.29 > > "Lump" Charcoal varies varies $0.55 9000 $0.61 128.33% > $3.06 $6.11 > > And the above didn't work either. In the right hand column, assuming a BTU consumption rate of 10,000/hour, the cost per hour is indicated. Sam's charcoal is pretty cheap, compared to lump. The left hand column incates the fractional comparison to propane cost. As we know, there is substantial difference between different charcoals, both brands, and types. The above are only examples. Above the BTU's for charcoal are gross guesses. Ed I'm not aware that I've seen a cost of fuel per hour calculation on this NG in the past. |
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On Oct 4, 3:19*pm, "Theron" > wrote:
> I'm not aware That's painfully obvious Kent. |
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"Duwop" > wrote in message ... On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: > I'm not aware That's painfully obvious Kent. > > I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we use when smoking or grilling. |
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Theron wrote:
> "Duwop" > wrote in message > ... > On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: > >> I'm not aware > > That's painfully obvious Kent. >> >> > I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a > post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we > use when smoking or grilling. Yes there has. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message ... > Theron wrote: >> "Duwop" > wrote in message >> ... >> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >> >>> I'm not aware >> >> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>> >>> >> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a >> post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we >> use when smoking or grilling. > > Yes there has. > > -- > Dave > What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before > you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan > Please give us your reference, an AFB NG post that compares the dollar cost of 10,000 BTUs[or any other number that would be appropriate] for different grilling fuels, including propane, and the different brands and varities of charcoal. |
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Theron wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message > ... >> Theron wrote: >>> "Duwop" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not aware >>> >>> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>>> >>>> >>> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a >>> post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we >>> use when smoking or grilling. >> >> Yes there has. >> >> -- >> Dave >> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >> > Please give us your reference, an AFB NG post that compares the > dollar cost of 10,000 BTUs[or any other number that would be > appropriate] for different grilling fuels, including propane, and the > different brands and varities of charcoal. From being a member, asshat. Now go back to counting angels. Now please tell us all what real-life application this has, other than your trying to convince the teacher that you're the smart kid in class with constant hand-raising and blurting out irrelevant facts? Hell, you've taken a half-dozen post to 'revise and extend' your smarm. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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On 4-Oct-2009, "Theron" > wrote: > "Duwop" > wrote in message > ... > On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: > > > I'm not aware > > That's painfully obvious Kent. > > > > > I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a post > on > this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we use when > smoking or grilling. In the six years I've been here, you're the only one that ever thought it was relavant. Nobody that seriously cooks, gives a big rats AXXX about the btu/hr of fuel. Not even the commercial folks care. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message ... > Theron wrote: >> "Duwop" > wrote in message >> ... >> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >> >>> I'm not aware >> >> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>> >>> >> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a >> post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we >> use when smoking or grilling. > > Yes there has. > > Again, please tell me where? |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message ... > Theron wrote: >> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Theron wrote: >>>> "Duwop" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not aware >>>> >>>> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a >>>> post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we >>>> use when smoking or grilling. >>> >>> Yes there has. >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >>> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >>> >> Please give us your reference, an AFB NG post that compares the >> dollar cost of 10,000 BTUs[or any other number that would be >> appropriate] for different grilling fuels, including propane, and the >> different brands and varities of charcoal. > > From being a member, asshat. Now go back to counting angels. > > Now please tell us all what real-life application this has, other than > your trying to convince the teacher that you're the smart kid in class > with constant hand-raising and blurting out irrelevant facts? Hell, you've > taken a half-dozen post to 'revise and extend' your smarm. > -- > Dave > What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before > you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan > Again, please answer my question. |
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"Brick" > wrote in message ter.com... > > On 4-Oct-2009, "Theron" > wrote: > >> "Duwop" > wrote in message >> ... >> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >> >> > I'm not aware >> >> That's painfully obvious Kent. >> > >> > >> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a post >> on >> this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we use when >> smoking or grilling. > > In the six years I've been here, you're the only one that ever thought it > was relavant. Nobody that seriously cooks, gives a big rats AXXX > about the btu/hr of fuel. Not even the commercial folks care. > > Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) > > I think when the fuel cost of smoking a pork shoulder is greater than the cost of the meat we should consider that important. You bet the commercial folks care about that. Ed |
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Theron wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message > ... >> Theron wrote: >>> "Duwop" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not aware >>> >>> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>>> >>>> >>> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a >>> post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we >>> use when smoking or grilling. >> >> Yes there has. >> >> > Again, please tell me where? For cryin' out loud butt-munch, I ain't the archive. People have been comparing costs of this fuel and that fuel and btu comparisons over the many years. No one cared then, no one cares about your OCD weirdness now. Now go back to counting angels. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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Theron wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message > ... >> Theron wrote: >>> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> Theron wrote: >>>>> "Duwop" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm not aware >>>>> >>>>> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not >>>>> been a post on this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of >>>>> different fuels we use when smoking or grilling. >>>> >>>> Yes there has. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave >>>> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >>>> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >>>> >>> Please give us your reference, an AFB NG post that compares the >>> dollar cost of 10,000 BTUs[or any other number that would be >>> appropriate] for different grilling fuels, including propane, and >>> the different brands and varities of charcoal. >> >> From being a member, asshat. Now go back to counting angels. >> >> Now please tell us all what real-life application this has, other >> than your trying to convince the teacher that you're the smart kid >> in class with constant hand-raising and blurting out irrelevant >> facts? Hell, you've taken a half-dozen post to 'revise and extend' >> your smarm. -- >> Dave >> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >> > Again, please answer my question. Kent, I ain't the ****in' archive. It's been done, said, and has blown away in the wind. Now take you OCD elsewhere. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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Theron wrote:
> I think when the fuel cost of smoking a pork shoulder is greater than > the cost of the meat we should consider that important. You bet the > commercial folks care about that. Why, asshat? The cost of bbqing a shoulder is not passed on to the consumer on a fixed cost basis. The TOTAL COST OF GOODS is the basis for setting a price. I could care less if it costs me 500.00 to bbq a shoulder, as long as I can gain a 30% margain. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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Theron >spewed forth: > "Brick" > wrote in message > ter.com... >> >> On 4-Oct-2009, "Theron" > wrote: >> >>> "Duwop" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not aware >>> >>> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>>> >>>> >>> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been >>> a post on >>> this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we use >>> when smoking or grilling. >> >> In the six years I've been here, you're the only one that ever >> thought it was relavant. Nobody that seriously cooks, gives a big >> rats AXXX about the btu/hr of fuel. Not even the commercial folks care. >> >> Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) >> >> > I think when the fuel cost of smoking a pork shoulder is greater than > the cost of the meat we should consider that important. You bet the > commercial folks care about that. > > Ed <delurking> It's not about cost, it's about the enjoyment of doing it, sharing it, and eating it. Not to mention you can't buy anything close to what I cook. To me cost does not even enter the equation. |
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On Oct 4, 9:53*pm, "Theron" > wrote:
> "Brick" > wrote in message > > ter.com... > > > > > > > On *4-Oct-2009, "Theron" > wrote: > > >> "Duwop" > wrote in message > .... > >> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: > > >> > I'm not aware > > >> That's painfully obvious Kent. > > >> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a post > >> on > >> this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we use when > >> smoking or grilling. > > > In the six years I've been here, you're the only one that ever thought it > > was relavant. Nobody that seriously cooks, gives a big rats AXXX > > about the btu/hr of fuel. Not even the commercial folks care. > > > Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) > > I think when the fuel cost of smoking a pork shoulder is greater than the > cost of the meat we should consider that important. You bet the commercial > folks care about that. > You call that thinking? And that have absolutely nothing to do with your original now does it? At least you're now admitting that your original question was not thought out at all and basically more of your attention seeking trolling. Thanks for the confirmation of continued asshattery. |
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> I think when the fuel cost of smoking a pork shoulder is greater than the > cost of the meat we should consider that important. > > Ed > </feed OCD mode on> You've got the numbers, tell me *when* that is going to occur and why I should care. Also, who's this we you seem to be speaking for- do they all live in Nick's Bozo bin with you? Brian |
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:29:31 -0700, "Theron" >
wrote: >Again, the BTU per pound of different brands of charcoals is not the same as >indicated. I'm also assuming 10,000 BTU per hour, which is variable, based >on cooking temp, and the size of the cooking unit. I've been unable to find >anything about the ingredients of the Sam's Walmart charcoal, and the Trader >Joe's charcoall is claimed to be 100% hardwood plus cornstarch to bind and >lump is wood. > cost weight/lb cost/lb btu/lb cost/10,000 BTU >Comp to propane Cost/5 hrs Cost/10 hrs > >20 lb Propane $20.00 20 $1.00 21000 $0.48 >100.00% $2.38 $4.76 > >Sam's Choice $5.27 18 $0.29 9000 $0.33 >68.31% $1.63 $3.25 > >Trader Joe's $6.95 18 $0.39 9000 $0.43 >90.09% $2.15 $4.29 > >"Lump" Charcoal varies varies $0.55 9000 $0.61 >128.33% $3.06 $6.11 You pick a number out of the air for charcoal Btu/hr, then assign a ridiculously high price to propane. All this in an effort to come up with a cost comparison for something that few, if any, in this group give a tinker's dam about. Why? What's your point? Before you started posting these attempts at fuel cost comparisons, the cost of fuel was the least of my considerations. It still is, if I had to use $20.00 worth of either charcoal or propane to turn $10.00 worth of pork shoulder into something my friends and family would thoroughly enjoy, so be it. Ross. |
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On Oct 5, 8:58*am, wrote:
> Before you started posting these attempts at fuel cost comparisons, > the cost of fuel was the least of my considerations. Shit, I figure I use about $7 of lump for a 6-8 hour cook. Now my cooker can hold anywhere from 10 to 100lbs of meat. That's up to me. What's the cost per hour per pound? This is so stupid it hurts. This is so stupid it must be Kent's. |
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what strikes me as odd about this discussion is that part of the point of
slow and low is to take an otherwise almost completely tough hunk of meat and render it edible... so what if you raise the price per pound to double, you get good eating for say $2.50 per pound instead of that $7.00 lb steak, what is so hard about comparing finished cost of a picnic roast to a cut of meat that will cost you more? Lee -- If you want to discuss top posting please email me privately, lets not clutter the news group, thanks***** .. -- Have a wonderful day "Theron" > wrote in message ... > > "Brick" > wrote in message > ter.com... >> >> On 4-Oct-2009, "Theron" > wrote: >> >>> "Duwop" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> On Oct 4, 3:19 pm, "Theron" > wrote: >>> >>> > I'm not aware >>> >>> That's painfully obvious Kent. >>> > >>> > >>> I'm not quite sure what you're saying. However, there has not been a >>> post >>> on >>> this NG that compares the cost of BTUs of different fuels we use when >>> smoking or grilling. >> >> In the six years I've been here, you're the only one that ever thought it >> was relavant. Nobody that seriously cooks, gives a big rats AXXX >> about the btu/hr of fuel. Not even the commercial folks care. >> >> Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) >> >> > I think when the fuel cost of smoking a pork shoulder is greater than the > cost of the meat we should consider that important. You bet the commercial > folks care about that. > > Ed > > > > |
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