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Had I known you guys were so well armed, I would have come over from
Food Cooking earlier. I get reamed in Dylan for supporting CC and
can not seem to get across to one of our British friends that
disarming a population is the first step to Authoritarianism. I got
some help, though, so it was not too bad.

What is the best wood for cooking over a campfire? I want a smoky
taste but I do not want it overwhelming.

TIA

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:18:34 -0500, Vesper > wrote:

>Had I known you guys were so well armed, I would have come over from
>Food Cooking earlier. I get reamed in Dylan for supporting CC and
>can not seem to get across to one of our British friends that
>disarming a population is the first step to Authoritarianism. I got
>some help, though, so it was not too bad.
>
>What is the best wood for cooking over a campfire? I want a smoky
>taste but I do not want it overwhelming.
>
>TIA
>
>V


It's to taste. I like Mesquite and Jack Daniel's oak. Those 2 have a
stronger smoke. If you want mild I would say to try Alder. It is a
lighter smoke. What can you get in your area?

Are you adding chunks/chips or are you talking about the wood you are
using to provide fire, or both?

As to the guns. IMHO, beer, Q, and guns are as big a part of this
country as is Mom and Apple Pie.

And I am a Yankee!

LOL

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:18:34 -0500, Vesper > wrote:

>Had I known you guys were so well armed, I would have come over from
>Food Cooking earlier. I get reamed in Dylan for supporting CC and
>can not seem to get across to one of our British friends that
>disarming a population is the first step to Authoritarianism. I got
>some help, though, so it was not too bad.
>
>What is the best wood for cooking over a campfire? I want a smoky
>taste but I do not want it overwhelming.
>
>TIA
>
>V


Forgot to add, use only hard wood. Anything soft like pine will
produce YUCK!
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:30:32 -0500, VegA >
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>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:18:34 -0500, Vesper > wrote:
>
>>Had I known you guys were so well armed, I would have come over from
>>Food Cooking earlier. I get reamed in Dylan for supporting CC and
>>can not seem to get across to one of our British friends that
>>disarming a population is the first step to Authoritarianism. I got
>>some help, though, so it was not too bad.
>>
>>What is the best wood for cooking over a campfire? I want a smoky
>>taste but I do not want it overwhelming.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>V

>
>It's to taste. I like Mesquite and Jack Daniel's oak. Those 2 have a
>stronger smoke. If you want mild I would say to try Alder. It is a
>lighter smoke. What can you get in your area?
>
>Are you adding chunks/chips or are you talking about the wood you are
>using to provide fire, or both?
>
>As to the guns. IMHO, beer, Q, and guns are as big a part of this
>country as is Mom and Apple Pie.
>
>And I am a Yankee!
>
>LOL


I have worked with charcoal and want to try wood to see if the taste
is any better. I am still researching the woods available but I know
there are chips to be had and I could use them if no one has firewood
that would serve the purpose.

I agree with your other comments but I gave up drinking 27 years ago
and I would drop the beer from the list. I do love Mom, apple pie,
guns and BBQ though .... lol

You got PC down pat.

Have a good and safe 4h.

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Vesper > wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:30:32 -0500, VegA >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:18:34 -0500, Vesper > wrote:
>>
>>>Had I known you guys were so well armed, I would have come over from
>>>Food Cooking earlier. I get reamed in Dylan for supporting CC and
>>>can not seem to get across to one of our British friends that
>>>disarming a population is the first step to Authoritarianism. I got
>>>some help, though, so it was not too bad.
>>>
>>>What is the best wood for cooking over a campfire? I want a smoky
>>>taste but I do not want it overwhelming.
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>V

>>
>>It's to taste. I like Mesquite and Jack Daniel's oak. Those 2 have a
>>stronger smoke. If you want mild I would say to try Alder. It is a
>>lighter smoke. What can you get in your area?
>>
>>Are you adding chunks/chips or are you talking about the wood you are
>>using to provide fire, or both?
>>
>>As to the guns. IMHO, beer, Q, and guns are as big a part of this
>>country as is Mom and Apple Pie.
>>
>>And I am a Yankee!
>>
>>LOL

>
>I have worked with charcoal and want to try wood to see if the taste
>is any better. I am still researching the woods available but I know
>there are chips to be had and I could use them if no one has firewood
>that would serve the purpose.
>
>I agree with your other comments but I gave up drinking 27 years ago
>and I would drop the beer from the list. I do love Mom, apple pie,
>guns and BBQ though .... lol
>
>You got PC down pat.
>
>Have a good and safe 4h.
>
>V


Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm

It was put together by folks here past and present. Has all kinds of
very good info. Really should be called the BBQ Bible IMHO.

Have a safe and Happy 4th!

Cheers and good luck


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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA >
wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Vesper > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:30:32 -0500, VegA >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:18:34 -0500, Vesper > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Had I known you guys were so well armed, I would have come over from
>>>>Food Cooking earlier. I get reamed in Dylan for supporting CC and
>>>>can not seem to get across to one of our British friends that
>>>>disarming a population is the first step to Authoritarianism. I got
>>>>some help, though, so it was not too bad.
>>>>
>>>>What is the best wood for cooking over a campfire? I want a smoky
>>>>taste but I do not want it overwhelming.
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>
>>>>V
>>>
>>>It's to taste. I like Mesquite and Jack Daniel's oak. Those 2 have a
>>>stronger smoke. If you want mild I would say to try Alder. It is a
>>>lighter smoke. What can you get in your area?
>>>
>>>Are you adding chunks/chips or are you talking about the wood you are
>>>using to provide fire, or both?
>>>
>>>As to the guns. IMHO, beer, Q, and guns are as big a part of this
>>>country as is Mom and Apple Pie.
>>>
>>>And I am a Yankee!
>>>
>>>LOL

>>
>>I have worked with charcoal and want to try wood to see if the taste
>>is any better. I am still researching the woods available but I know
>>there are chips to be had and I could use them if no one has firewood
>>that would serve the purpose.
>>
>>I agree with your other comments but I gave up drinking 27 years ago
>>and I would drop the beer from the list. I do love Mom, apple pie,
>>guns and BBQ though .... lol
>>
>>You got PC down pat.
>>
>>Have a good and safe 4h.
>>
>>V

>
>Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>
>It was put together by folks here past and present. Has all kinds of
>very good info. Really should be called the BBQ Bible IMHO.
>
>Have a safe and Happy 4th!
>
>Cheers and good luck



Thanks for the link. I pulled a shortcut to get back to it. Looks
very thorough.

Stay well

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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:37:58 -0700, Denny Wheeler
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>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Vesper > wrote:
>
>>I have worked with charcoal and want to try wood to see if the taste
>>is any better. I am still researching the woods available but I know
>>there are chips to be had and I could use them if no one has firewood
>>that would serve the purpose.

>
>Find someone with fruit or nut trees and ask for their prunings.
>Usually, they'll be happy to see it hauled away.


Thanks for the tip

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> I have worked with charcoal and want to try wood to see if the
> taste
> is any better. I am still researching the woods available but I
> know
> there are chips to be had and I could use them if no one has
> firewood
> that would serve the purpose.


Consider using what's called preburn. It can be done in a
cylinder like a charcoal cylinder, but you can also stack hardwood
logs and light them in just a firepit. Keep the fire going and
add the glowing, almost smokless, embers beneath your meat. It'll
impart a very good flavor and the smoke won't be overpowering.
It's also easier to maintain a more constant hood temp. this way.
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:36:44 -0700, Denny Wheeler
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>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:30:32 -0500, VegA >
>wrote:
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>>It's to taste. I like Mesquite and Jack Daniel's oak. Those 2 have a
>>stronger smoke. If you want mild I would say to try Alder. It is a
>>lighter smoke. What can you get in your area?

>
>Alder certainly works very well with salmon--that's what's been used
>in the Puget Sound area for hundreds of years.


Cedar's nice, too.


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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:

> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>
> It was put together by folks here past and present.


I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.
And most of us probably haven't even seen that version. That's some
sort of listerv creation. We are Usenet. The AFB Faq is at .....
somewhere unknown to me.

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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:39:57 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>
>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>
>> It was put together by folks here past and present.

>
> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.
> And most of us probably haven't even seen that version. That's some
> sort of listerv creation. We are Usenet. The AFB Faq is at .....
> somewhere unknown to me.


Come to think of it, were we gatewayed to mailing list at some
point? It's vaguely ringing a bell now. I know there was a mailing
list for the FAQ, at least, but individual posts?

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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
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>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>
>> It was put together by folks here past and present.

>
> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.


Not true.


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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
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>>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>>
>>> It was put together by folks here past and present.

>>
>> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.

>
> Not true.


Is that the AFB FAQ? It doesn't look like the one I remember
reading. It looks like something else.

But it had been a few years and I didn't look at it closely. It
says it's from a mailing list. Not Usenet.

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>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>>
>>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>>
>>> It was put together by folks here past and present.

>>
>> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.

>
> Not true.

Smartass Reply:

Not true? No, is really *is* true that I don't think anybody here
took part in that. Truct me - that is what I think. Stay out of my
head, dammit.

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> ..... Stay out of my head, dammit.


Dang, Steve, it's not like you're John Malkovich.
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> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>>>
>>>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>>>
>>>> It was put together by folks here past and present.
>>>
>>> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.

>>
>> Not true.

>
> Is that the AFB FAQ? It doesn't look like the one I remember
> reading. It looks like something else.
>
> But it had been a few years and I didn't look at it closely. It
> says it's from a mailing list. Not Usenet.
>
> -sw


I never saw an AFB FAQ. The original bbq FAQ was from the mailing list. A
few of those people, including myself, hang out here. The version the link
referred to may have had some changes.


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> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>>>
>>>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>>>
>>>> It was put together by folks here past and present.
>>>
>>> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.

>>
>> Not true.

> Smartass Reply:
>
> Not true? No, is really *is* true that I don't think anybody here
> took part in that. Truct me - that is what I think. Stay out of my
> head, dammit.
>
> -sw


Steve, Our own Ed Pawlowski was a contributor to the FAQ in reference. Some
of those folks are still around, some done gone on to the Big Barbecue.
I come on The Thead list in June of '97. They were working on the FAQ at
that time.
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> Sqwertz wrote:
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>> ..... Stay out of my head, dammit.

>
> Dang, Steve, it's not like you're John Malkovich.


I just saw 'Burn After Reading' last night, too. He was great in
there, too.

ObFood: Time to go grind a brisket. Brisket makes great hamburger,

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:52:27 -0400, Big Jim wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> It was put together by folks here past and present.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.
>>>
>>> Not true.

>> Smartass Reply:
>>
>> Not true? No, is really *is* true that I don't think anybody here
>> took part in that. Truct me - that is what I think. Stay out of my
>> head, dammit.
>>
>> -sw

>
> Steve, Our own Ed Pawlowski was a contributor to the FAQ in reference. Some
> of those folks are still around, some done gone on to the Big Barbecue.
> I come on The Thead list in June of '97. They were working on the FAQ at
> that time.
> Big Jim


OK. I'd remember it from looking at here - the original home of the
FAQ. I see Bill and Ricks name on it, so it's legit.

Looks like somebody stole it and has put it up on their commercial
site to bring in business. I don't think that part is legit,
though.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:52:27 -0400, Big Jim wrote:
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>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was put together by folks here past and present.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.
>>>>
>>>> Not true.
>>> Smartass Reply:
>>>
>>> Not true? No, is really *is* true that I don't think anybody here
>>> took part in that. Truct me - that is what I think. Stay out of my
>>> head, dammit.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> Steve, Our own Ed Pawlowski was a contributor to the FAQ in reference.
>> Some
>> of those folks are still around, some done gone on to the Big Barbecue.
>> I come on The Thead list in June of '97. They were working on the FAQ
>> at
>> that time.
>> Big Jim

>
> OK. I'd remember it from looking at here - the original home of the
> FAQ. I see Bill and Ricks name on it, so it's legit.
>
> Looks like somebody stole it and has put it up on their commercial
> site to bring in business. I don't think that part is legit,
> though.
>
> -sw


It is up on several sites. Egalequest I thinking was the main one.
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On 4-Jul-2009, Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:40 -0500, VegA wrote:
>
> > Go to http://www.bbqnfools.com/faq2/toc.htm
> >
> > It was put together by folks here past and present.

>
> I don't think anybody here had took any part in creating that FAQ.
> And most of us probably haven't even seen that version. That's some
> sort of listerv creation. We are Usenet. The AFB Faq is at .....
> somewhere unknown to me.
>
> -sw


Here's a link to the real one. You can get it in a variety of formats.

http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/

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Sqwertz wrote:
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>> Sqwertz wrote:
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>>> ..... Stay out of my head, dammit.

>>
>> Dang, Steve, it's not like you're John Malkovich.

>
> I just saw 'Burn After Reading' last night, too. He was great in
> there, too.


Haven't seen it yet. Thanks for the 'heads' up.

> ObFood: Time to go grind a brisket. Brisket makes great hamburger,


Amen to that.

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how do you prepare it for hamburger, spices? grinder? what percent of fat do
you keep in the grind? Lee
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>> Sqwertz wrote:
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>>> ..... Stay out of my head, dammit.

>>
>> Dang, Steve, it's not like you're John Malkovich.

>
> I just saw 'Burn After Reading' last night, too. He was great in
> there, too.
>
> ObFood: Time to go grind a brisket. Brisket makes great hamburger,
>
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"Stormmee" > wrote in message
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> how do you prepare it for hamburger, spices? grinder? what percent of fat
> do you keep in the grind? Lee
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 02:38:55 -0700, Dave Bugg wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> ..... Stay out of my head, dammit.
>>>
>>> Dang, Steve, it's not like you're John Malkovich.

>>
>> I just saw 'Burn After Reading' last night, too. He was great in
>> there, too.
>>
>> ObFood: Time to go grind a brisket. Brisket makes great hamburger,
>>
>> -sw

>
>

Hamburger as ground don't have no spices in it. Use all the fat mix well
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thanks, Lee
"Big Jim" > wrote in message
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> "Stormmee" > wrote in message
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>> how do you prepare it for hamburger, spices? grinder? what percent of fat
>> do you keep in the grind? Lee
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 02:38:55 -0700, Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ..... Stay out of my head, dammit.
>>>>
>>>> Dang, Steve, it's not like you're John Malkovich.
>>>
>>> I just saw 'Burn After Reading' last night, too. He was great in
>>> there, too.
>>>
>>> ObFood: Time to go grind a brisket. Brisket makes great hamburger,
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>>

> Hamburger as ground don't have no spices in it. Use all the fat mix well
> BJ
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