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Cast iron burners
Our Sam's Club SS grill has three figure "8" shaped main burners.
They're made of cast iron. The grill gets use almost daily and is now 6 years old. About 2 years back, I disassembled the grill to reach the burners and found that many of the openings in them were blocked with rust. They also had a "swelled" appearance and what appeared to also be some delamination, as if they were made of layers of iron. I drilled out the openings, wire brushed the burners and blew everything clean with an air hose. The result was that the burners all lit again and the heat was quite even. . . much hotter as well. Last week, I noticed that I had some unususal hot spots and discovered that one burner had split and that the holes of all were again blocked. This time, the delamination of the cast iron was very apparent and the split was the end result of this on the most used burner. These grills are Chinese made and are sold under about a hundred different brand names. http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com...k-y0660ng.html This is the URL for one parts vendor, which includes a breakdown and prices of parts. Notice at the end of the parts list that there are available cast Stainless burners, but that they cost around $100 more PER BURNER. Do any of you grillers think this would be worth it for a more regular and reliable flame? In removing the ceramic flame tamers- they work great- one broke. I have ordered a replacement one, but see that they offer a ceramic coated steel or SS perforated flame tamer. Apparently two are required if you look at the dimensions. Any thoughts on this type over the ceramic ones that are original to the grill? -- Nonny If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke |
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> > These grills are Chinese made and are sold under about a hundred different > brand names. > http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com...k-y0660ng.html > This is the URL for one parts vendor, which includes a breakdown I have that Member's Mark grill. Don't use it. Want it? I'm in Fresno. Ed |
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>> These grills are Chinese made and are sold under about a hundred different >> brand names. >> http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com...k-y0660ng.html >> This is the URL for one parts vendor, which includes a breakdown > > I have that Member's Mark grill. Don't use it. Want it? > > I'm in Fresno. > > Ed If I was coming out your direction, Ed, I'd take you up on the offer. As it is, I just went ahead and ordered new burners. I'm a real fan of the grill and as I posted, we use it almost every night. Here in LV, it's ridiculous to cook inside the house while also running the air conditioner full tilt. It's so much easier, cooler and less mess to do the cooking outside. As far as the grill itself goes, my friend has a drop-in 3- burner grill in an island he had constructed. He paid just over $3500 for it and it gets about 2/3 the use mine does. His is a year 'older' than mine, and so far he's not had to do anything at all with it. His flame tamer is the perforated SS covering over the burners, where yours and mine use the ceramics. AFAIK, he has no more problem with flare-ups than anyone else, though when he puts his grill into self-clean mode, it sure as the dickens gets a lot hotter than mine. I counter that by placing foil over my grates when cleaning. That reflects the heat down and works like a charm. I do that every 3-4 months or after cooking something with a brazed-on sugary sauce like KC Masterpiece or Rudy's. -- Nonny If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke |
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> the ceramics. AFAIK, he has no more problem with flare-ups than anyone > else, though when he puts his grill into self-clean mode, it sure as the > dickens gets a lot hotter than mine. I counter that by placing foil over > my grates when cleaning. Nonny, I've had nothing but flare up problems with it. I mean I'll turn the tiles over and burn off all residue and they'll burn up a chicken next time I use it. I have to have a water bottle handy to put it out. Did you do the natural gas conversion? A guy did a real nice web page on how to do it. google it. If you can't find it, I could make you a copy. Ed |
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> http://grill-tools.net/ http://grill-tools.net/On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:10:25 -0700, Nonnymus > wrote:
>Our Sam's Club SS grill has three figure "8" shaped main burners. >They're made of cast iron. The grill gets use almost daily and is now 6 >years old. About 2 years back, I disassembled the grill to reach the >burners and found that many of the openings in them were blocked with >rust. They also had a "swelled" appearance and what appeared to also be >some delamination, as if they were made of layers of iron. > >I drilled out the openings, wire brushed the burners and blew everything >clean with an air hose. The result was that the burners all lit again >and the heat was quite even. . . much hotter as well. > >Last week, I noticed that I had some unususal hot spots and discovered >that one burner had split and that the holes of all were again blocked. > This time, the delamination of the cast iron was very apparent and the >split was the end result of this on the most used burner. > >These grills are Chinese made and are sold under about a hundred >different brand names. >http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com...k-y0660ng.html > This is the URL for one parts vendor, which includes a breakdown >and prices of parts. Notice at the end of the parts list that there are >available cast Stainless burners, but that they cost around $100 more >PER BURNER. Do any of you grillers think this would be worth it for a >more regular and reliable flame? > >In removing the ceramic flame tamers- they work great- one broke. I >have ordered a replacement one, but see that they offer a ceramic coated >steel or SS perforated flame tamer. Apparently two are required if you >look at the dimensions. Any thoughts on this type over the ceramic ones >that are original to the grill? I don't know. I purchased a "Sunshine" grill about 7 years ago and loved the hell out of it. You can see one at http://www.bbqpeople.com/sunshine2.html The cast iron burners are closed v in shape and the openings for the flames are sideways with part of the cast iron v above them. They are also part of the v so all the burners are one piece. They are hard to clog. . What is unique (or was back then) is that there is a cast iron plate just above the burners. When what ever your grillin juices drip onto the plate they vaporize, going back up to your food. YUM! The grate is about 2 inches from the flame. This things sears! Long story short, I moved and had to leave the grill behind. I now grill on a garbage picked POS. I replaced the burner with a universal set for about $20 that I can toss out every 2 years or so. I put a iron plate above the flame and moved the burner up. Now I can sear again! Total cost? About $20. I was loaded with money and could afford the best in grills. Then I got poor and had to make due. The one thing that I learned is that the grill does not make the Grillman. You can turn out the very best of food cooking on almost anything. All it takes is TLC, and less money than brains BTW, I think the bursting you mentioned (or swelling) is due to the figure 8 design. Cheers! -- " Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end" |
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> where yours and mine use >> the ceramics. AFAIK, he has no more problem with flare-ups than anyone >> else, though when he puts his grill into self-clean mode, it sure as the >> dickens gets a lot hotter than mine. I counter that by placing foil over >> my grates when cleaning. > > > > Nonny, > > > I've had nothing but flare up problems with it. I mean I'll turn the tiles > over and burn off all residue and they'll burn up a chicken next time I use > it. I have to have a water bottle handy to put it out. > > Did you do the natural gas conversion? A guy did a real nice web page on > how to do it. google it. If you can't find it, I could make you a copy. > > Ed > > I did just that type of conversion with a similar one we had at a second house, and it worked fine. I'm considering investing in at least one of the SS perforated flame tamers to set above my ceramic tiles just to see how it works. BTW- the flame tamer tiles supplied have a tapered opening in them. Have you tried them both ways- larger opening up and larger opening down? I've found that having the larger opening down works pretty well, but then I keep a pretty close eye on fatty foods when grilling. -- Nonny If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke |
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VegA wrote:
>> http://grill-tools.net/ http://grill-tools.net/On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:10:25 -0700, Nonnymus > wrote: > >> Our Sam's Club SS grill has three figure "8" shaped main burners. >> They're made of cast iron. The grill gets use almost daily and is now 6 >> years old. About 2 years back, I disassembled the grill to reach the >> burners and found that many of the openings in them were blocked with >> rust. They also had a "swelled" appearance and what appeared to also be >> some delamination, as if they were made of layers of iron. >> >> I drilled out the openings, wire brushed the burners and blew everything >> clean with an air hose. The result was that the burners all lit again >> and the heat was quite even. . . much hotter as well. >> >> Last week, I noticed that I had some unususal hot spots and discovered >> that one burner had split and that the holes of all were again blocked. >> This time, the delamination of the cast iron was very apparent and the >> split was the end result of this on the most used burner. >> >> These grills are Chinese made and are sold under about a hundred >> different brand names. >> http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com...k-y0660ng.html >> This is the URL for one parts vendor, which includes a breakdown >> and prices of parts. Notice at the end of the parts list that there are >> available cast Stainless burners, but that they cost around $100 more >> PER BURNER. Do any of you grillers think this would be worth it for a >> more regular and reliable flame? >> >> In removing the ceramic flame tamers- they work great- one broke. I >> have ordered a replacement one, but see that they offer a ceramic coated >> steel or SS perforated flame tamer. Apparently two are required if you >> look at the dimensions. Any thoughts on this type over the ceramic ones >> that are original to the grill? > > I don't know. I purchased a "Sunshine" grill about 7 years ago and > loved the hell out of it. You can see one at > http://www.bbqpeople.com/sunshine2.html > > The cast iron burners are closed v in shape and the openings for the > flames are sideways with part of the cast iron v above them. They are > also part of the v so all the burners are one piece. They are hard to > clog. . > > What is unique (or was back then) is that there is a cast iron plate > just above the burners. When what ever your grillin juices drip onto > the plate they vaporize, going back up to your food. YUM! > > The grate is about 2 inches from the flame. This things sears! > > Long story short, I moved and had to leave the grill behind. I now > grill on a garbage picked POS. I replaced the burner with a universal > set for about $20 that I can toss out every 2 years or so. I put a > iron plate above the flame and moved the burner up. Now I can sear > again! Total cost? About $20. > > I was loaded with money and could afford the best in grills. Then I > got poor and had to make due. The one thing that I learned is that the > grill does not make the Grillman. You can turn out the very best of > food cooking on almost anything. All it takes is TLC, and less money > than brains > > BTW, I think the bursting you mentioned (or swelling) is due to the > figure 8 design. I never considered it, but you may be right. It could be thermal expansion/stress rather than oxidation. If so, the cast SS burners I ordered should fare equally badly. Time will tell. > > Cheers! > -- Nonny If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke |
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