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Here's the skinny on the charcoal this year. It's not looking too good
for many of us trying to find this charcoal. We don't have Trader Joe's
in Texas. And no Orchard Supply. The company is in North Carolina, but
their distribution is mostly California.

The freight company I use wants $329 to ship 1300lbs to Austin. Which
seems kinda high. That would make it about $9.70/bag ($.54/lb). Doesn't
seem worth it considering local lump is @ $.40/lb.

Here's the email I received:

Hi Steve,
Thank you for your email. I am forwarding it to our contact with Costco
and Home Depot.

We have been supplanted at Costco and Home Depot for the Clorox Chemical
Company's Kingsford "Competition blend". This despite the fact that we
would be over 40% less expensive at Costco and 1/2 the price of what Home
Depot charges for the chemical company's brand!!! Also, despite
out-selling the chemical brand in each chain during the time that we were
there.

Please feel free to mention this on the forums:

-TRADER JOE'S: RANCHER is selling at Trader Joe's across the country
for $6.99/18lb($0.39/lb).

-COSTCO: Clorox's (Kingsford) "Competition Blend" is $16.59 for 33lbs
($0.50/lb) !!!23% higher price than All-Natural RANCHER!!!

-HOME DEPOT and LOWES: Clorox's (Kingsford) "Competition Blend" is
$8.99 for 12lbs ($.075/lb) !!!48.2% higher price than All-Natural RANCHER!!!

-Orchard Supply Hardwa Will carry RANCHER for a Memorial Day
promotion well below the Costco price.

We can ship pallet quantity direct for $350 (70X18LBS), plus freight as
quoted by freightquotes.com. We have been shipping pallets and even 1//2
truck loads to individuals and groups around the country. Please let us
know what we can do for you. Thank you for your interest and support.

Enjoy the day,
Eric [Krause]

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In austin.food Sqwertz wrote:
Here's the skinny on the charcoal this year. It's not looking too good
for many of us trying to find this charcoal.


Newflower has Hardwood brickets from South America in small bags.

I didn't try them since I still have some of the good stuff from HD.

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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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Here's the skinny on the charcoal this year. It's not looking too good
for many of us trying to find this charcoal. We don't have Trader Joe's
in Texas. And no Orchard Supply. The company is in North Carolina, but
their distribution is mostly California.

The freight company I use wants $329 to ship 1300lbs to Austin. Which
seems kinda high. That would make it about $9.70/bag ($.54/lb). Doesn't
seem worth it considering local lump is @ $.40/lb.

Here's the email I received:

Hi Steve,
Thank you for your email. I am forwarding it to our contact with Costco
and Home Depot.

We have been supplanted at Costco and Home Depot for the Clorox Chemical
Company's Kingsford "Competition blend". This despite the fact that we
would be over 40% less expensive at Costco and 1/2 the price of what Home
Depot charges for the chemical company's brand!!! Also, despite
out-selling the chemical brand in each chain during the time that we were
there.

Please feel free to mention this on the forums:

-TRADER JOE'S: RANCHER is selling at Trader Joe's across the country
for $6.99/18lb($0.39/lb).

-COSTCO: Clorox's (Kingsford) "Competition Blend" is $16.59 for 33lbs
($0.50/lb) !!!23% higher price than All-Natural RANCHER!!!

-HOME DEPOT and LOWES: Clorox's (Kingsford) "Competition Blend" is
$8.99 for 12lbs ($.075/lb) !!!48.2% higher price than All-Natural
RANCHER!!!

-Orchard Supply Hardwa Will carry RANCHER for a Memorial Day
promotion well below the Costco price.

We can ship pallet quantity direct for $350 (70X18LBS), plus freight as
quoted by freightquotes.com. We have been shipping pallets and even 1//2
truck loads to individuals and groups around the country. Please let us
know what we can do for you. Thank you for your interest and support.

Enjoy the day,
Eric [Krause]


It's funny (sad) how he keeps mentioning Clorox, the chemical company.

-John O


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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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Here's the skinny on the charcoal this year. It's not looking too good
for many of us trying to find this charcoal. We don't have Trader Joe's
in Texas. And no Orchard Supply. The company is in North Carolina, but
their distribution is mostly California.

The freight company I use wants $329 to ship 1300lbs to Austin. Which
seems kinda high. That would make it about $9.70/bag ($.54/lb). Doesn't
seem worth it considering local lump is @ $.40/lb.

Here's the email I received:

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Smart & Final a walk-in restaurant & business supply stores carry a 40 or
50 pound bag of natural mesquite for IIRC less than $20.00. It is designed
I guess the the Mesquite Grilled Fish and Steak joints.

I suspect other stores of that type carry the same or similar products.

The stuff is GREAT. Not like that TJ'S Cowboy scrap construction crap.

Dimitri

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Horn wrote:
In austin.food Sqwertz wrote:
Here's the skinny on the charcoal this year. It's not looking too good
for many of us trying to find this charcoal.


Newflower has Hardwood brickets from South America in small bags.


I didn't even think about looking there. I stop there at least once a week.

I didn't try them since I still have some of the good stuff from HD.


"Good stuff" at Home Depot? They have Cowboy charcoal, which I don't like
at all. Is there another brand?

-sw


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Sqwertz wrote:

"Good stuff" at Home Depot? They have Cowboy charcoal, which I don't
like at all. Is there another brand?


What about "Stubb's Premium" now found at Lowe's in the Pacific NW? Anyone
know anything about it?

GWE
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Grant Erwin wrote:
Sqwertz wrote:

"Good stuff" at Home Depot? They have Cowboy charcoal, which I don't
like at all. Is there another brand?


What about "Stubb's Premium" now found at Lowe's in the Pacific NW? Anyone
know anything about it?

GWE


I think Stubbs is briquettes. At least that's what it said in the
Lowe's add in today's paper.

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What's wrong with the Royal Oak lump charcoal sold at WalMart?
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In article ,
Sqwertz wrote:

We can ship pallet quantity direct for $350 (70X18LBS), plus freight as
quoted by freightquotes.com. We have been shipping pallets and even 1//2
truck loads to individuals and groups around the country. Please let us
know what we can do for you. Thank you for your interest and support.

Enjoy the day,
Eric [Krause]


Well, you could always consider getting together a group order. g
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Janet Wilder wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote:
Sqwertz wrote:

"Good stuff" at Home Depot? They have Cowboy charcoal, which I don't
like at all. Is there another brand?


What about "Stubb's Premium" now found at Lowe's in the Pacific NW?
Anyone
know anything about it?

GWE


I think Stubbs is briquettes. At least that's what it said in the
Lowe's add in today's paper.


Looks like they're made by Cowboy Charcoal Company, so I'll tale a big
pass on those. They also look expensive (somebody reported $7 for 9lbs).

They've been on the market for a year, but I've never heard of them until
now. And I work just around the corner from Stubbs HQ.

-sw


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Janet Wilder wrote:

What's wrong with the Royal Oak lump charcoal sold at WalMart?


I have never seen any lump in any Walmart. And I look every time I'm at a
Walmart (maybe 4 times a year, 3 different stores).

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On 9-Apr-2009, Janet Wilder wrote:

What's wrong with the Royal Oak lump charcoal sold at WalMart?
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Royal Oak lump is fine if/when they have it. Wally World isn't too
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reading the various posts in this tread, can somebody summarize what we
should be looing for and looking to avoid, generically speaking?


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On 9-Apr-2009, "Gil Faver" wrote:

reading the various posts in this tread, can somebody summarize what we
should be looing for and looking to avoid, generically speaking?


Here's more then you ever wanted to know about charcoal. This guy
has put an unbelievable amount of effort into grading charcoal for the
BBQ community.

Basically you're looking for chacoal made from real unprocessed
wood. It will look like real wood that has been baked until black
because that is what it is. It should not look like black used lumber.
It should be made from some kind of hardwood, never soft pine
or some such. Controversy rages about various types of wood,
but IMNSHO they all cook down to pretty much the same thing
when they run through a proper kiln. Some manufacturers are
more careful then others to exclude junk like rocks and dirt.
Some lump gets handled too roughly and much is lost to tiny pieces
and dust. Keep your eye out for lump that is still on the original
shipping pallet. That's about your best chance to get lump that
hasn't been bashed about too much.

Once those minimum wage store clerks get to throwing it around
all bets are off.

http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lumpindexpage.htm?bag

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On Apr 9, 5:04*am, Sqwertz wrote:
Here's the skinny on the charcoal this year. *It's not looking too good
for many of us trying to find this charcoal. *We don't have Trader Joe's
in Texas. *And no Orchard Supply. *The company is in North Carolina, but
their distribution is mostly California.

The freight company I use wants $329 to ship 1300lbs to Austin. *Which
seems kinda high. *That would make it about $9.70/bag ($.54/lb). *Doesn't
seem worth it considering local lump is @ $.40/lb.

Here's the email I received:

Hi Steve,
Thank you for your email. *I am forwarding it to our contact with Costco
and Home Depot.

We have been supplanted at Costco and Home Depot for the Clorox Chemical
Company's Kingsford "Competition blend". *This despite the fact that we
would be over 40% less expensive at Costco and 1/2 the price of what Home
Depot charges for the chemical company's brand!!! *Also, despite
out-selling the chemical brand in each chain during the time that we were
there.

Please feel free to mention this on the forums:

-TRADER JOE'S: * *RANCHER is selling at Trader Joe's across the country
for $6.99/18lb($0.39/lb).

-COSTCO: * *Clorox's (Kingsford) "Competition Blend" is $16.59 for 33lbs
($0.50/lb) !!!23% higher price than All-Natural RANCHER!!!

-HOME DEPOT and LOWES: * *Clorox's (Kingsford) "Competition Blend" is
$8.99 for 12lbs ($.075/lb) !!!48.2% higher price than All-Natural RANCHER!!!

-Orchard Supply Hardwa * *Will carry RANCHER for a Memorial Day
promotion well below the Costco price.

We can ship pallet quantity direct for $350 (70X18LBS), plus freight as
quoted by freightquotes.com. *We have been shipping pallets and even 1//2
truck loads to individuals and groups around the country. *Please let us
know what we can do for you. Thank you for your interest and support.

Enjoy the day,
Eric [Krause]


Are we talking lump here, or natural briquettes? Too bad they got
supplanted by "the chemical company". This is what I meant by them
squeezing out the little guy. Interesting that their retail price is
higher than Original Charcoal. Wonder what made Costco and HD
switch.

I'll have to remember to keep an eye out for the OSH Memorial Day
special. Although I think by then I'd have bought another 40 lb bag of
mesquite lump from Smart and Final.

Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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