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I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.

1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.

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Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> skeeter wrote:
>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>
>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>
> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the charcoal
> without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
>
> MartyB in KC
>
It helps the newspaper burn slower.

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skeeter > wrote:

> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>
> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.

I've always used lighter fluid and have never had a lighter fluid
taste.

Of course I always take off the body and lid of the R2D2 before
lighting it, and let it burn for 10-15 minutes.

-sw

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Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> skeeter wrote:
>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>
>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>
> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the charcoal
> without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
>
> MartyB in KC
>

Well, I guess either my posts aren't getting out or I've been
"blacklisted" on the group for reasons I don't understand. As I asked
the same question a while earlier. It's been happening a lot lately so
I'll assume it's option "B".

If someone can explain what I did to apparently get plonked by so many,
I'd appreciate it. Honestly.

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Walt Fles wrote:
> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> skeeter wrote:
>>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>>
>>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her
>>> family.
>>
>> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
>> charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too
>> tight. MartyB in KC
>>
> It helps the newspaper burn slower.

Never had a problem with regular burning newspaper. I have very infrequently
used a bit of vegetable oil on newspaper when they have been affected by
humidity from storage outside, though.

--
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you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

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Steve Calvin wrote:
> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> skeeter wrote:
>>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>>
>>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her
>>> family.
>>
>> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
>> charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too
>> tight. MartyB in KC
>>
>
> Well, I guess either my posts aren't getting out or I've been
> "blacklisted" on the group for reasons I don't understand. As I asked
> the same question a while earlier. It's been happening a lot lately so
> I'll assume it's option "B".
>
> If someone can explain what I did to apparently get plonked by so
> many, I'd appreciate it. Honestly.

I see your posts, Steve. I don't know if you've been plonked by anyone but I
sure haven't :-)

--
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What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

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Steve Calvin wrote:
> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> skeeter wrote:
>>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>>
>>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>>
>> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
>> charcoal
>> without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
>>
>> MartyB in KC
>>
>
> Well, I guess either my posts aren't getting out or I've been
> "blacklisted" on the group for reasons I don't understand. As I asked
> the same question a while earlier. It's been happening a lot lately so
> I'll assume it's option "B".
>
> If someone can explain what I did to apparently get plonked by so many,
> I'd appreciate it. Honestly.

No plonk here!

--
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"Your attitude serves as a lens through which you see life, and it's
best when that lens is focused on the positive possibilities." - Ralph
Marston

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"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> skeeter wrote:
> > I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
> > with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
> > chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
> > using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
> > under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
> > food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
> > newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
> > understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
> >
> > 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>
> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
> charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.

I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the chimney.

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Steve Calvin > wrote:
> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> > skeeter wrote:
> >> [ . . . ]
> Well, I guess either my posts aren't getting out or I've been
> "blacklisted" on the group for reasons I don't understand. As I asked
> the same question a while earlier. It's been happening a lot lately so
> I'll assume it's option "B".
>
> If someone can explain what I did to apparently get plonked by so many,
> I'd appreciate it. Honestly.

I'm still able to put up with your posts, Steve. Not that I matter.

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On Apr 28, 7:44 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:

> I've always used lighter fluid and have never had a lighter fluid
> taste.
>
> Of course I always take off the body and lid of the R2D2 before
> lighting it, and let it burn for 10-15 minutes.

You might give it a whirl. There is a definite taste difference, once
I had a hard time believing. I never liked those chimneys until I got
the Weber model. They actually hold enough charcoal and/or wood to
make them quite useful

I found out last summer that they will also light all wood (seasoned)
for grilling, no charcoal needed. We started up a chimney of oak/
pecan and grilled chicken and sausage on an all wood fire just
tonight.

I think the best thing about the chimneys (besides the taste) is when
you want a good bed of lit, burning coals. If I use charcoal, I put
in charcoal to the top of the chimney and then stack some 1/2 fist
sized pieces on top to light along with the chimney of charcoal. It
all lights at once and is all ready to go at the same time. No smoke
from any partially lit charcoal or scorching flavoring wood.

For steaks, the chimney is the best. You can literally light and burn
your coals to bright orange/white charcoal ready for the grill, and
get plenty of it all at once.

And at $14, it paid for itself in lighter fuel in about 2 months. I
hated those old POS models they sold everywhere, but the Weber chimney
is a no-brainer.

Robert

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On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:

> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>
> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.

Good on ya Skeeter, but newspaper without the Pam is even cheaper.
And for us dedicated cheapskates a onetime investment in an oil
spritzer (I use a 'Misto') loaded with Canola oil obviates the need
for any expensive Pam. (Pam 'regular' is Canola oil).

I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.
--
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"Brick" > wrote:
> On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
> crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

Old phone books do work well, don't they!

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On 28-Apr-2008, Steve Calvin > wrote:

> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> > skeeter wrote:
> >> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
> >> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
> >> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
> >> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
> >> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
> >> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
> >> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
> >> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
> >>
> >> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
> >
> > Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
> > charcoal
> > without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
> >
> > MartyB in KC
> >
>
> Well, I guess either my posts aren't getting out or I've been
> "blacklisted" on the group for reasons I don't understand. As I asked
> the same question a while earlier. It's been happening a lot lately so
> I'll assume it's option "B".
>
> If someone can explain what I did to apparently get plonked by so many,
> I'd appreciate it. Honestly.

You're coming in here loud and clear Steve.

--
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On Apr 29, 7:54 am, Nick Cramer > wrote:
> "Brick" > wrote:
> > On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
> > [ . . . ]
> > I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
> > crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.
>
> Old phone books do work well, don't they!
>
> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

I actually cheat - my chargriller duo has a side burner. 5 minutes on
that and it's flaming to go!
Dump that into the side firebox, another load on top of that, and in
30 minutes I have enough smoke
to set off an alarm.

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On 29-Apr-2008, Nick Cramer > wrote:

> "Brick" > wrote:
> > On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
> > [ . . . ]
> > I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
> > crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.
>
> Old phone books do work well, don't they!
>
> --
> Nick.

I don't know. I've been throwing them into the recycle bin. I'll try it next

time since I'm all out of parafin sticks.

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On Apr 29, 9:25 am, "Brick" > wrote:
> On 29-Apr-2008, Nick Cramer > wrote:
>
> > "Brick" > wrote:
> > > On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
> > > [ . . . ]
> > > I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
> > > crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.
>
> > Old phone books do work well, don't they!
>
> > --
> > Nick.
>
> I don't know. I've been throwing them into the recycle bin. I'll try it next
>
> time since I'm all out of parafin sticks.
>
> --
> Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

my only complaint is that paper turns to charred little flakes of
embers and fly everywhere.

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On Apr 28, 7:30*pm, Walt Fles > wrote:
> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> > Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the charcoal
> > without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
>
> > MartyB in KC
>
> It helps the newspaper burn slower.

I would think that it makes the newspaper burn hotter, as well as
longer. I've stopped using newspaper, myself. Wax paper is the way to
go! Just make a big wad and put it under your charcoal chimney, light
it, and go about your business. In 15 minutes, you've got fire. Easy,
cheap, burns clean, and leaves very little ash.

Stan Marks

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Brick > wrote:
> On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
>
>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>
>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>
> Good on ya Skeeter, but newspaper without the Pam is even cheaper.
> And for us dedicated cheapskates a onetime investment in an oil
> spritzer (I use a 'Misto') loaded with Canola oil obviates the need
> for any expensive Pam. (Pam 'regular' is Canola oil).
>
> I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
> crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

I work double duty. After the grill heats up, I was spraying canola oil
on a
cloth, then using it to lube the racks. (As taught by Alton Brown)

Now I oil up a wad of paper towels, lube the racks, and then stuff the
oily paper into the chimney, to be used next time to light the charcoal.

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" > wrote:

> On Apr 28, 7:44 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> I've always used lighter fluid and have never had a lighter fluid
>> taste.
>>
>> Of course I always take off the body and lid of the R2D2 before
>> lighting it, and let it burn for 10-15 minutes.
>
> You might give it a whirl. There is a definite taste difference,

No, there isn't. I used to use a chimney, and often use it at work
and school (where we have bigger smokers for groups), and there is
NO taste of lighter fluid.

People who use a lot of lighter fluid, squirt down the sides and
bottom of their smoker/firepan, and don't let it burn off completely
and vented may have this problem, but I sure don't.

-sw

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Nick Cramer wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
>> skeeter wrote:
>>> I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>>> with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>>> chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>>> using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>>> under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>>> food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>>> newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>>> understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>>>
>>> 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
>> charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
>
> I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the chimney.
>

BLASPHEME!!!

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best when that lens is focused on the positive possibilities." - Ralph
Marston

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"skeeter" > wrote in message
...
> On Apr 29, 7:54 am, Nick Cramer > wrote:
>> "Brick" > wrote:
>> > On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
>> > [ . . . ]
>> > I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
>> > crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.
>>
>> Old phone books do work well, don't they!
>>
>> --
>> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
>> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
>> They
>> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
>> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
>
> I actually cheat - my chargriller duo has a side burner. 5 minutes on
> that and it's flaming to go!
> Dump that into the side firebox, another load on top of that, and in
> 30 minutes I have enough smoke
> to set off an alarm.


I used to do the oiled paper towel from preping the grill, but I too
now have the side burner on the CharGriller and it works perfectly.

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skeeter > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:25 am, "Brick" > wrote:
> > On 29-Apr-2008, Nick Cramer > wrote:
> > > "Brick" > wrote:
> > > > On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
> > > > [ . . . ]
> my only complaint is that paper turns to charred little flakes of
> embers and fly everywhere.

I set my chimney on the bottom grate in the firebox, add the crumpled
paper, then lump, douse with JD and light at the bottom. The only sparks
are from lump dust. They never fly more than a foot or so, if that.

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"Nick Cramer" > wrote>
> I set my chimney on the bottom grate in the firebox, add the crumpled
> paper, then lump, douse with JD and light at the bottom. The only sparks
> are from lump dust. They never fly more than a foot or so, if that.
>
Sounds like alcohol abuse, if you ask me.

BOB

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" BOB" > wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote>
> > I set my chimney on the bottom grate in the firebox, add the crumpled
> > paper, then lump, douse with JD and light at the bottom. The only
> > sparks are from lump dust. They never fly more than a foot or so, if
> > that.
> >
> Sounds like alcohol abuse, if you ask me.

I did it. Take me away. <holding hands behind back to be cuffed>

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"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
>> skeeter wrote:
>> > I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
>> > with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
>> > chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
>> > using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
>> > under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
>> > food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
>> > newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
>> > understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.
>> >
>> > 1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
>>
>> Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
>> charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.
>
> I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the chimney.

I dump a little Jack Daniels down the barbequer before starting the chimney
and use vegatable oil on the newspaper. Just sayin'.


> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

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"Michael Boyd" > wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> > "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> >> skeeter wrote:
> >> > [ . . . ]
> > I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the
> > chimney.
>
> I dump a little Jack Daniels down the barbequer before starting the
> chimney and use vegatable oil on the newspaper. Just sayin'.

My kid brother was a loyal JD fan for years. I finally convinced him to try
a _real_ Bourbon. He's been on Wild Turkey ever since! Just sayin'. ;-)

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"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
>
> My kid brother was a loyal JD fan for years. I finally convinced him to
> try
> a _real_ Bourbon. He's been on Wild Turkey ever since! Just sayin'. ;-)
--
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--
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"Ivan Weiss" > wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message

> > My kid brother was a loyal JD fan for years. I finally convinced him to
> > try
> > a _real_ Bourbon. He's been on Wild Turkey ever since! Just sayin'. ;-)

> Anyone who tries George Dickel or Woodford Reserve will not be
> disappointed.

Yep. There are a lot of fine Bourbons out there. I cut my Bourbon teeth on
Old Forester, in 1953. Good enough for me, although I keep a few others
around for special occasions.

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"Ivan Weiss" > wrote in message
et...
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> My kid brother was a loyal JD fan for years. I finally convinced him to
>> try
>> a _real_ Bourbon. He's been on Wild Turkey ever since! Just sayin'. ;-)
> --
> Anyone who tries George Dickel or Woodford Reserve will not be
> disappointed.
> --
> ivan
>

Had them both, along with Elijah Craig, Maker's Mark, Wild Turkey Rare Breed
and a few others. Never cared for JD that much.. I only drink a few
bottles a year so the difference between the cheap stuff and the good stuff
is not all that much so I pass on the cheap stuff.

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On Apr 29, 10:03 pm, "Joseph" > wrote:
> "skeeter" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 7:54 am, Nick Cramer > wrote:
> >> "Brick" > wrote:
> >> > On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter > wrote:
> >> > [ . . . ]
> >> > I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
> >> > crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.
>
> >> Old phone books do work well, don't they!
>
> >> --
> >> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> >> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> >> They
> >> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> >> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
>
> > I actually cheat - my chargriller duo has a side burner. 5 minutes on
> > that and it's flaming to go!
> > Dump that into the side firebox, another load on top of that, and in
> > 30 minutes I have enough smoke
> > to set off an alarm.
>
> I used to do the oiled paper towel from preping the grill, but I too
> now have the side burner on the CharGriller and it works perfectly.

I just tear off some of the bag the charcoal came out of and shove
that under the bottom of my chimney starter and use that to start it
all up. Works great. By the time I've used up a bag of charcoal
there's basically no bag left. You can see the bag on the right of
this picture and how some of it is mysteriously missing. :-)
http://www.employees.org/~travist/smoker.jpg